Re: [vox-tech] how to download a video file without an url

2003-06-08 Thread ME
Peter Jay Salzman said:
 i'd like to download the movie from:

http://www.petatv.com/tvpopup/Prefs.asp?video=mym2002

 but the movie is embedded in some kind of window so that i can't really
 see its proper URL.

 is it possible to download this movie?

Choosing QT, slectinbg next, looking at source, i see:
http://www.petatv.com/al_jazeera_low.mov
 refed.

using wget or netscape i can dl that url

I looks like some silly thing about pets having sex.

Was that what you wanted?


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Re: [vox-tech] how to download a video file without an url

2003-06-08 Thread Michael Wenk
On Sunday 08 June 2003 02:26 pm, Peter Jay Salzman wrote:
 i'd like to download the movie from:

http://www.petatv.com/tvpopup/Prefs.asp?video=mym2002

 but the movie is embedded in some kind of window so that i can't really
 see its proper URL.

 is it possible to download this movie?

 pete
Maybe view the src of that page?  That may clue you in on the true download, 
or at least get you started.  From looking at it, we have a bunch of stuff. 
You could call the action of the form with the responses embedded in the 
URL(a get type form)  That may work(it has for me in the past.)  

Mike


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Re: [vox-tech] how to download a video file without an url

2003-06-08 Thread Peter Jay Salzman
On Sun 08 Jun 03,  2:40 PM, ME [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 Peter Jay Salzman said:
  i'd like to download the movie from:
 
 http://www.petatv.com/tvpopup/Prefs.asp?video=mym2002
 
  but the movie is embedded in some kind of window so that i can't really
  see its proper URL.
 
  is it possible to download this movie?
 
 Choosing QT, slectinbg next, looking at source, i see:
 http://www.petatv.com/al_jazeera_low.mov
  refed.
 
 using wget or netscape i can dl that url
 
 I looks like some silly thing about pets having sex.
 
 Was that what you wanted?

heh.  not really.  :)   not quite sure a reference to that .mov is on
the page.   :)  the first few words of the movie should be what you're
about to see...

i suspect what i want looks something like:

rtsp://a772.v08015.c801.g.vq.akamaistream.net/7/772/9135/0002/peta.download.akamai.com/9135/mym2002_med.mov

but i don't recognize this kind of url.  could this be some kind of
proxy?  i tried to download
peta.download.akamai.com/9135/mym2002_med.mov but got a forbidden
access error.

pete


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Re: [vox-tech] how to download a video file without an url

2003-06-08 Thread ME
Peter Jay Salzman said:
 On Sun 08 Jun 03,  2:40 PM, ME [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 Peter Jay Salzman said:
  i'd like to download the movie from:
 
 http://www.petatv.com/tvpopup/Prefs.asp?video=mym2002
 
  but the movie is embedded in some kind of window so that i can't
 really
  see its proper URL.
 
  is it possible to download this movie?

 Choosing QT, slectinbg next, looking at source, i see:
 http://www.petatv.com/al_jazeera_low.mov
  refed.

 using wget or netscape i can dl that url

 I looks like some silly thing about pets having sex.

 Was that what you wanted?

 heh.  not really.  :)   not quite sure a reference to that .mov is on
 the page.   :)  the first few words of the movie should be what you're
 about to see...

 i suspect what i want looks something like:

 rtsp://a772.v08015.c801.g.vq.akamaistream.net/7/772/9135/0002/peta.download.akamai.com/9135/mym2002_med.mov

 but i don't recognize this kind of url.  could this be some kind of
 proxy?  i tried to download
 peta.download.akamai.com/9135/mym2002_med.mov but got a forbidden
 access error.

I first saw rtsp with real player. It could use these url to get streams.

I guess Apples QT works.

Using RealPlayer:
rtsp://a787.v91358.c9135.g.vr.akamaistream.net/ondemand/7/787/9135/003/peta.download.akamai.com/9135/mym2002_med.rm?obj=v0004

try that url...

It works for me. It is about abuse to animals raised as food..

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Re: [vox-tech] how to download a video file without an url

2003-06-08 Thread Ted Deppner
On Sun, Jun 08, 2003 at 02:26:53PM -0700, Peter Jay Salzman wrote:
 http://www.petatv.com/tvpopup/Prefs.asp?video=mym2002

Dig through the file, sometimes you'll find references to a real video
file.

Otherwise, use mencoder (from mplayer) to grab the stream (you'll need to
dig to find the embedded url, mencoder won't follow a playlist type file
like mplayer will)... not perfect, but it comes close.

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Re: [vox-tech] how to download a video file without an url

2003-06-08 Thread Ryan Castellucci
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On Sunday 08 June 2003 02:26 pm, Peter Jay Salzman wrote:
 i'd like to download the movie from:

http://www.petatv.com/tvpopup/Prefs.asp?video=mym2002

 but the movie is embedded in some kind of window so that i can't really
 see its proper URL.

 is it possible to download this movie?

 pete

Time for me to be helpful :)

Looking at the source, I see

mms://a805.v9135e.c9135.g.vm.akamaistream.net/7/805/9135/003/peta.download.akamai.com/9135/mym2002_med.wmv

A streaming protocal, which prevents users from downloading it. HA! Very 
funny.

asfrecord (http://free.top.bg/asfrecord/ ) downloads it just fine :) (It 
should work on any sort of windows media stream)

Or if mplayer will play it, I think you could have it dump to a file instead 
of playing.

mplayer $URL -dumpstream -dumpfile $FILENAME

might work.
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Re: [vox-tech] how to download a video file without an url

2003-06-08 Thread Mark K. Kim
On Sun, 8 Jun 2003, Peter Jay Salzman wrote:

 rtsp://a772.v08015.c801.g.vq.akamaistream.net/7/772/9135/0002/peta.download.akamai.com/9135/mym2002_med.mov

 but i don't recognize this kind of url.  could this be some kind of
 proxy?  i tried to download
 peta.download.akamai.com/9135/mym2002_med.mov but got a forbidden
 access error.

I got two answers...

The first part: As I recall, RTSP is a RealMedia protocol.  We used it
when I was involved with KDVS RealAudio streaming.  RealPlayer can handle
both RTSP and HTTP URI.  The difference is, with HTTP you can't jump
around the media stream, but RTSP lets you.  So with RTSP you can start
playing from 5 minutes into the media stream, but with HTTP you gotta wait
for the 5 minutes worth of file to download first before you can play the
5 minutes into the file.

It was my impression that you can only use RealMedia files with RTSP
protocol but apparently that's changed over the years (or I've just never
been aware of it.)  Whatever the case, it's using RTSP protocol so you can
jump around the media stream.  Also, the server is streaming media using
RTSP protocol which makes it harder to download the media file (it doesn't
use port 80, for one, and it communicates with the client for best
streaming technique.)

One more thing: If you reference RTSP to a server that doesn't have a
proper RTSP media streaming server, RealPlayer will fall back on HTTP.
So even if you see rtsp://, it may still be HTTP (so you can still
download the file normally using wget or whatnot).  But if the RealPlayer
falls back to HTTP then you can't jump around the media stream anymore.

The second part: The streams are coming from one of the Akamai servers.
These servers are used to distribute server loads.  When you reference a
website, it'll bring up the website with links to Akamai servers that are
nearest to your location (or its best guess.)  Then you click on a link,
and you'll be connected to the Akamai servers nearest to your location.
You'll generally see only big media files on Akamai servers for several
reasons I won't get into since this e-mail is already too long.  Anyway,
the URI looks funky it was generated automatically by some Akamai program
(Akamai also has other customers, so the URI needs to be non-clashing with
other customers'.  Furthermore, it's gotta be fast so they may use some
URI referencing tricks to make the database access faster).  In short, the
whole thing is a URI, not just the latter half, and the URI looks funky
because it's automatically generated by some program.

-Mark


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