Re: [Vserver] Mailing List ...

[James Noble]

It it helps, I have a html copy of the old posts.

James

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On 12/6/2003 at 10:14 PM Martin List-Petersen wrote:

>On Sat, 2003-12-06 at 19:38, Herbert Poetzl wrote:
>> Hi Martin!
>> 
>> would it be possible to enhance the mailing
>> list somewhat ... especially the following 
>> issues seem to arise on a regular basis:
>> 
>>  - mail has a To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>(9 in december, 99 total)
>>  - mail has a Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>(26 total)
>>  - mail has a To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>(8 in december, 2 in november)
>Look at all the posts and you will see, that the Reply-To: header should
>be [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>The reason, that the To: header is different for these posts is because
>people used these adresses. I can see, if i can get them "rewritten"
>when they go past the mailinglist-server software.
>
>>  
>> further it would really really nice to have
>> the 'old' mailing list postings in the 
>> archive and a search function for them, if
>> you need some help, maybe someone in the
>> community is able and willing to do so ...
>
>I still need the old posts from Paul Sladen. It would be easy to get
>them in
>afterwards. I'll just drop him a mail again, with the request.
>
>Regarding the search engine i've maybe got a better idea. I'll drop you
>a mail
>during the week. This weekend is quite busy, so i haven't got much done
>yet.
>
>Regards,
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Re: [Vserver] 2 IP-numbers for one vserver

[Herbert Poetzl]

On Sat, Dec 06, 2003 at 10:44:59PM +0100, Dariush Pietrzak wrote:
> On Sat, 6 Dec 2003, Herbert Poetzl wrote:
> 
> > On Sat, Dec 06, 2003 at 09:35:01PM +0100, Dariush Pietrzak wrote:
> > > > IPROOT="eth0:aa.aa.aa.aa/mm.mm.mm.0 eth0:bb.bb.bb.bb/nn.nn.0.0"
> > > > leave the rest of the IP* settings empty
> > >  # chbind --ip 10.1.0.1 --ip 10.1.0.2 --nc -l -p 2032
> > > chbind version 0.26
> > > chbind [ --silent ] [ --ip ip_num[/mask] ] [ --bcast broadcast ] command
> > > argument
> > > 
> > >  What am I doing wrong?
> > 
> > first, I boldly assume you are using vserver-0.26 ...
>  chbind version 0.26

well, unfortunately this isn't non-ambiguous
as util-vserver-0.26 shows the same ...

> yes,
> 
> >  - I dont see a --nc option for chbind
>  ugh, that's the problem. Thanks. I got a bit '-'-happy, that was supposed
>  to be chbind --ip 10.1.0.1 --ip 10.1.0.2 nc -l -p 2032. Sorry I had to
>  post to the list to notice this.

this happens sometimes ...
don't worry

best,
Herbert

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Re: [Vserver] 2 IP-numbers for one vserver

[Dariush Pietrzak]

On Sat, 6 Dec 2003, Herbert Poetzl wrote:

> On Sat, Dec 06, 2003 at 09:35:01PM +0100, Dariush Pietrzak wrote:
> > > IPROOT="eth0:aa.aa.aa.aa/mm.mm.mm.0 eth0:bb.bb.bb.bb/nn.nn.0.0"
> > > leave the rest of the IP* settings empty
> >  # chbind --ip 10.1.0.1 --ip 10.1.0.2 --nc -l -p 2032
> > chbind version 0.26
> > chbind [ --silent ] [ --ip ip_num[/mask] ] [ --bcast broadcast ] command
> > argument
> > 
> >  What am I doing wrong?
> 
> first, I boldly assume you are using vserver-0.26 ...
 chbind version 0.26
yes,

>  - I dont see a --nc option for chbind
 ugh, that's the problem. Thanks. I got a bit '-'-happy, that was supposed
 to be chbind --ip 10.1.0.1 --ip 10.1.0.2 nc -l -p 2032. Sorry I had to
 post to the list to notice this.

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Re: [Vserver] (no subject)

[Martin List-Petersen]

On Sat, 2003-12-06 at 12:54, ajit malik wrote:
> Hello!
> Please remove me from your list.
> Thanks,
> Malik

You could have done that at http://list.linux-vserver.org yourself, but
i've done for you.

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Re: [Vserver] Mailing List ...

[Martin List-Petersen]

On Sat, 2003-12-06 at 19:38, Herbert Poetzl wrote:
> Hi Martin!
> 
> would it be possible to enhance the mailing
> list somewhat ... especially the following 
> issues seem to arise on a regular basis:
> 
>  - mail has a To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>(9 in december, 99 total)
>  - mail has a Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>(26 total)
>  - mail has a To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>(8 in december, 2 in november)
Look at all the posts and you will see, that the Reply-To: header should
be [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The reason, that the To: header is different for these posts is because
people used these adresses. I can see, if i can get them "rewritten"
when they go past the mailinglist-server software.

>  
> further it would really really nice to have
> the 'old' mailing list postings in the 
> archive and a search function for them, if
> you need some help, maybe someone in the
> community is able and willing to do so ...

I still need the old posts from Paul Sladen. It would be easy to get
them in
afterwards. I'll just drop him a mail again, with the request.

Regarding the search engine i've maybe got a better idea. I'll drop you
a mail
during the week. This weekend is quite busy, so i haven't got much done
yet.

Regards,
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Re: [Vserver] 2 IP-numbers for one vserver

[Herbert Poetzl]

On Sat, Dec 06, 2003 at 09:35:01PM +0100, Dariush Pietrzak wrote:
> > IPROOT="eth0:aa.aa.aa.aa/mm.mm.mm.0 eth0:bb.bb.bb.bb/nn.nn.0.0"
> > leave the rest of the IP* settings empty
>  # chbind --ip 10.1.0.1 --ip 10.1.0.2 --nc -l -p 2032
> chbind version 0.26
> chbind [ --silent ] [ --ip ip_num[/mask] ] [ --bcast broadcast ] command
> argument
> 
>  What am I doing wrong?

first, I boldly assume you are using vserver-0.26 ...

hmm what do you want to do?

 - I dont see a --nc option for chbind
 - neither -l nor -p
 - chbind requires a command to execute 
   (which I don't see either ...)

HTH,
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Re: [Vserver] 2 IP-numbers for one vserver

[Dariush Pietrzak]

> IPROOT="eth0:aa.aa.aa.aa/mm.mm.mm.0 eth0:bb.bb.bb.bb/nn.nn.0.0"
> leave the rest of the IP* settings empty
 # chbind --ip 10.1.0.1 --ip 10.1.0.2 --nc -l -p 2032
chbind version 0.26
chbind [ --silent ] [ --ip ip_num[/mask] ] [ --bcast broadcast ] command
argument

 What am I doing wrong?

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[Vserver] Mailing List ...

[Herbert Poetzl]

Hi Martin!

would it be possible to enhance the mailing
list somewhat ... especially the following 
issues seem to arise on a regular basis:

 - mail has a To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   (9 in december, 99 total)
 - mail has a Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   (26 total)
 - mail has a To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   (8 in december, 2 in november)
 
further it would really really nice to have
the 'old' mailing list postings in the 
archive and a search function for them, if
you need some help, maybe someone in the
community is able and willing to do so ...

please don't get me wrong, I appreciate your
time and help on that very much ... thanks
for the good work so far and ...

TIA,
Herbert

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[Vserver] Mailheaders

[W)W)ip-Debian Liste]

Ok here the mailheaders:

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On Sat, Dec 06, 2003 at 07:16:43PM +0100, W)W)ip-Debian Liste wrote:
> Hi Folks,
> 
> i have a problem with this list. I receive all e-mails of this list twice.
> How can I solve this problem?

hmm, maybe you are still subscribed to the 'old'
list at solucorp ... anyway, a copy

Re: [Vserver] Con's Kernel Patchset ...

[Herbert Poetzl]

On Sat, Dec 06, 2003 at 07:16:43PM +0100, W)W)ip-Debian Liste wrote:
> Hi Folks,
> 
> i have a problem with this list. I receive all e-mails of this list twice.
> How can I solve this problem?

hmm, maybe you are still subscribed to the 'old'
list at solucorp ... anyway, a copy of both mail
headers would help alot ...

best,
Herbert

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AW: [Vserver] Con's Kernel Patchset ...

[W)W)ip-Debian Liste]

Hi Folks,

i have a problem with this list. I receive all e-mails of this list twice.
How can I solve this problem?


Regards

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[Vserver] Con's Kernel Patchset ...

[Herbert Poetzl]

Hi Sam!

I was looking at the ck1 (http://kernel.kolivas.org)
for 2.4.23 and it seems to include useful stuff for
vserver, namely

  O(1) scheduler with batch scheduling, interactivity
  Preemptible kernel
  Low Latency
  Read Latency2
  Variable Hz
  64bit jiffies
  Supermount-NG v1.2.10
  Bootsplash v3.0.7
  XFS file system v1.3.1

I would like to port the vs1.20 to this kernel,
and it seems that this is quite easy, but, as you
can imagine, this includes the O(1) stuff and so
your help would be appreciated ...

TIA,
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Re: [Vserver] fdisk in vserver

[Herbert Poetzl]

On Sat, Dec 06, 2003 at 04:58:45PM +0100, Dariush Pietrzak wrote:
> > about the possibilities ... maybe disallowing
> > an open for block devices could be sufficient

>  Why? What if you want to access block devices? 

you can and nothing will change for now ...

> This should be left as it is, or maybe CAP_BLOCK_ACCESS.

nothing to fear, this won't change from this
minute to the next, and if you have read the
entire mail, you already know, that something
like CAP_BLOCK_ACCESS was suggested ...

best,
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Re: [Vserver] fdisk in vserver

[Dariush Pietrzak]

> about the possibilities ... maybe disallowing
> an open for block devices could be sufficient
 Why? What if you want to access block devices? This should be left as it
is, or maybe CAP_BLOCK_ACCESS.

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Re: Re: Re[3]: [Vserver] [Release] Per Context Quota and Disk Limits ...

[Alex Lyashkov]

On Saturday 06 December 2003 14:15, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hello Alex,
>
> I have downloaded the new freevps stuff, and I have it working fairly well.
> My question is this, will I need to add CAP_SYS_RESOURCE to the .conf
> file for the vserver, in order to make bind work? and can I do a shutdown
> from inside the vserver?
first, adding CAP_SYS_RESOURCE not break process limits but add some additions 
capabilty:
/* Override resource limits. Set resource limits. */
/* Override reserved space on ext2 filesystem */
/* Modify data journaling mode on ext3 filesystem (uses journaling
   resources) */
/* Override size restrictions on IPC message queues */
/* Allow more than 64hz interrupts from the real-time clock */
/* Override max number of consoles on console allocation */
/* Override max number of keymaps *
i don`t find serious security problem with allow it.


second - for shutdown vps from inside, you can use reboot manager from 
original Jacks tools.


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Re: [Vserver] fdisk in vserver

[Herbert Poetzl]

On Sat, Dec 06, 2003 at 01:27:15PM +0100, Jon Bendtsen wrote:
> On Saturday 06 December 2003 13:08, Dariush Pietrzak wrote:
> > > > > Why does a vserver need access to block devices?
> > > >
> > > >  Which vserver?
> > >
> > > All vservers. You just said that it was not a bug if there was a
> > > /dev
> >
> >  Why would you want all your vservers to access your block devices?
> 
> No i dont, i want all vservers by default to be disallowed access to 
> block devices, EVEN IF THERE IS  A DEV ENTRY.

hmm, guess that isn't that easy to accomplish,
but I can have a look at the code, and think 
about the possibilities ... maybe disallowing
an open for block devices could be sufficient

> > > Then i'm asking you... why does a vserver need access to a
> > > blockdevice?
> >
> >  Which vserver?!
> > If I want vserver to access blockdevices - I create entries in /dev
> > for it, if I don't - I don't.

> > I don't really get where the problem is - you wan't all your
> > vservers permanently banned from accessing block devices? Even if
> > you create those devices yourself especially for your vserver to
> > access them? Or what?
> 
> Thats why you could have a CAP_BLOCK_ACCESS

maybe as per vserver capability, once we have
that system up and running, but the CAP_* 
resources are scarce ... (30/32)

best,
Herbert

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Re: [Vserver] kernel compiling woes

[Herbert Poetzl]

On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 10:08:16PM -0800, James Noble wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Im trying to compile a 2.4.23-vs1.20 with the quota patch, 
> and keep running into errors, I admint that i do not know alot 
> about building kernels, anyone have a step by step for this, 
> or have a kernel similar to the ones at soulcorp that i can download?
> -
> here is the history that i tried
> 
>  308  wget http://www.13thfloor.at/vserver/s_release/v1.20/patch-2.4.23-vs1.20.diff
>   309  wget 
> http://www.13thfloor.at/vserver/s_release/v1.20/split-2.4.23-vs1.20.tar.bz2
>   310  wget 
> http://www.13thfloor.at/vserver/s_addons/quota/patch-2.4.23-vs1.20-q0.12.diff
>   311  wget 
> http://www.13thfloor.at/vserver/s_addons/quota/split-2.4.23-vs1.20-q0.12.tar.bz2
> 
>   313  wget http://www.13thfloor.at/vserver/s_addons/quota/cq-tools-0.06.tar.bz2
>   314  wget http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.4/linux-2.4.23.tar.gz
> 
>   316  tar -xvzf linux-2.4.23.tar.gz
>   317  rm linux-2.4.23.tar.gz
> 
>   319  cd linux-2.4.23
>   320  cat ../patch-2.4.23-vs1.20.diff | patch -p1
>   321  cat ../patch-2.4.23-vs1.20-q0.12.diff | patch -p1
>   322  make menuconfig
> (selected quota on in filesystems, thats it)

to use the patch, you also have to select the persistent
context id for files (first option on filesystems)

sounds good so far, but you should also select the
hardware your system actually provides/has .. if you
don't want to do that, you can always use the config 
file from solucorp and do the folowing

# wget ftp://ftp.solucorp.qc.ca/pub/vserver/config-2.4.22

# cd linux-2.4.23
# cp ../config-2.4.22 .config
# make oldconfig

after you have done make menuconfig (or make oldconfig)
you have to do  make dep (as stated in the friendly
message if you leave the previous make which looks like
*** Next, you must run 'make dep'. ;) 

# make dep >../Dep.log

>   323  make bzImage modules modules_install
> (error about ext3)

I would first do a 

# make bzImage modules >../Build.log

just to see if everything compiles ...

if that was okay (except for some warnings), you can
do the install (modules_install)

by the way, I exactly did what you described (except
for adding the mandatory make dep) and it worked
without any issues, if you have troubles doing this,
please send me the error messages, and I'll have a 
look at it ...

HTH,
Herbert

>   324  ls
>   325  make clean dep bzImage modules install modules_install
> (error in the modules install, about kernel_something)
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Re: [Vserver] fdisk in vserver

[Dariush Pietrzak]

> No i dont, i want all vservers by default to be disallowed access to 
> block devices, EVEN IF THERE IS  A DEV ENTRY.
 Why would you want that? Why would you put a dev entry inside if you don't
want it accessible?

>> Thats why you could have a CAP_BLOCK_ACCESS
 Hmm, that would actually be nice. Is there already such CAP?

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Re: [Vserver] fdisk in vserver

[Jon Bendtsen]

On Saturday 06 December 2003 13:08, Dariush Pietrzak wrote:
> > > > Why does a vserver need access to block devices?
> > >
> > >  Which vserver?
> >
> > All vservers. You just said that it was not a bug if there was a
> > /dev
>
>  Why would you want all your vservers to access your block devices?

No i dont, i want all vservers by default to be disallowed access to 
block devices, EVEN IF THERE IS  A DEV ENTRY.


> > Then i'm asking you... why does a vserver need access to a
> > blockdevice?
>
>  Which vserver?!
> If I want vserver to access blockdevices - I create entries in /dev
> for it, if I don't - I don't.
> I don't really get where the problem is - you wan't all your
> vservers permanently banned from accessing block devices? Even if
> you create those devices yourself especially for your vserver to
> access them? Or what?

Thats why you could have a CAP_BLOCK_ACCESS



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[Vserver] Re: [amery@geeks.cl: Re: [Release] Stable vs1.20]

[Alejandro Mery]

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote:

> Herbert Poetzl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
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> 
>>please replace the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list address 
>>by the [EMAIL PROTECTED] one (or just
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> Ok; I've updated the gmane.conf file.
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Re: Re: Re[3]: [Vserver] [Release] Per Context Quota and Disk Limits ...

[mile1]

Hello Alex, 

I have downloaded the new freevps stuff, and I have it working fairly well.
My question is this, will I need to add CAP_SYS_RESOURCE to the .conf file for the 
vserver, in order to make bind work? and can I do a shutdown from inside the vserver?

TyroneM.
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> From: Alex Lyashkov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2003/12/02 Tue AM 01:29:40 EST
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> Subject: Re: Re: Re[3]: [Vserver] [Release] Per Context Quota and Disk Limits ...
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> On Tuesday 02 December 2003 00:26, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Hello Alex,
> >
> > Will the new freevps stuff work on redhat9, or only 7.3?
> It`s rpm builded at rh 7.3 box, i think it must work with RH 8, but RH 9 have 
> many many changes in kernel/glibc..
> You can try it - but I don`t test with RH 9.
> Next release planing move to kernel-2.4.20-20.x. or lastes at moment code 
> frezze.
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Re: [Vserver] fdisk in vserver

[Dariush Pietrzak]

> > > Why does a vserver need access to block devices?
> >  Which vserver?
> All vservers. You just said that it was not a bug if there was a /dev 
 Why would you want all your vservers to access your block devices?

> Then i'm asking you... why does a vserver need access to a 
> blockdevice?
 Which vserver?!
If I want vserver to access blockdevices - I create entries in /dev for it,
if I don't - I don't. 
I don't really get where the problem is - you wan't all your vservers
permanently banned from accessing block devices? Even if you create those
devices yourself especially for your vserver to access them? Or what?

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Re: [amery@geeks.cl: [Vserver] Re: [Release] Stable vs1.20]

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Herbert Poetzl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

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> remove the former, if both are used) ...

Ok; I've updated the gmane.conf file.

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Re: [Vserver] Re: [Release] Stable vs1.20

[Martin List-Petersen]

On Sat, 2003-12-06 at 03:08, Alejandro Mery wrote:
> Herbert Poetzl wrote:
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> > PS: please don't use the solucorp mailing list
> > address any longer ...
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> i used news.gmane.org :-\, now i'm suscribed to list.linux-vserver.org
> but i think you will need to mail gmane.org admin.

I'll have a look at that. The solucorp address is no mailinglist
anymore, it just is used as a forwarder to the current list, so that we
catch the ones, that didn't see the change.

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Re: [Vserver] fdisk in vserver

[Jon Bendtsen]

On Friday 05 December 2003 13:36, Dariush Pietrzak wrote:
> > Why does a vserver need access to block devices?
>
>  Which vserver?

All vservers. You just said that it was not a bug if there was a /dev 
entry that the vserver could access the device.
Then i'm asking you... why does a vserver need access to a 
blockdevice?



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Re: [Vserver] kernel compiling woes

[Alex Klymov]

Hello James,

Saturday, December 6, 2003, 1:08:16 AM, you wrote:

JN> Hello,

JN> Im trying to compile a 2.4.23-vs1.20 with the quota patch, and keep running into 
errors, I admint that i do not know alot about building kernels, anyone have a step by 
step for this, or have a
JN> kernel similar to the ones at soulcorp that i can download?
JN> -
JN> here is the history that i tried

I'd suggest you run

cat patch-vserver-x.xx | patch -p1 --dry-run |egrep 'rej|fail'

first, to see what/where source files are actually getting rejected patches (this 
command
doesn't really patch the source tree - it just shows where you can run into
potential problems). 

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