Re: [Vserver] Linux-VServer Live CD?

2007-04-20 Thread Herbert Poetzl
On Fri, Apr 20, 2007 at 01:27:42AM -0400, Daniel Clark wrote:
 Has anyone made a LiveCD for Linux-VServer?

as mentioned on IRC, Knoppix should have some support
for booting a Linux-VServer enabled kernel, although
I do not have the details and/or know what version ...

 If not, any hints/tips/warnings/recommendations for an OS base?
 
 I am looking for a way to demo a client/server application, and
 Linux-VServer with the vunify functionality at first glance looks
 like it could be ideal.
 
 The CD itself would have the minimal OS and vserver-enabled kernel,
 and vunifiy-ed filesystems of the server and clients (which wouldn't
 differ by that much), and any changes during the run would be written
 to ramdisk.
 
 Based on a previous thread it sounded like Linux-VServer has its own
 Copy-on-Write (CoW) functionality, removing the need for unionfs/aufs
 for the virtual machines themselves (although I assume you'd still
 want it enabled in a small ram disk for the rest of the CD).

yes and no, CoW Link Breaking is there, which is probably
not what you have in mind when you talk about unionfs ...

i.e. it allows you to have hard linked files on a read-write
filesystem which will be copied (on demand) by the kernel 
when written to ...

nevertheless, I can easily imagine having a tmpfs based
demo setup with a bunch of Linux-VServer guests (they can
be as small as 20MB, but usually will take 180-220MB)
utilizing unification to run a number of them (10-30)
completely from RAM ...

so keep brain storming/asking/checking ...

best,
Herbert

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Re: [Vserver] Linux-VServer Live CD?

2007-04-20 Thread Ben Green
On Fri, 20 Apr 2007 07:06:01 +0100, Herbert Poetzl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Has anyone made a LiveCD for Linux-VServer?
as mentioned on IRC, Knoppix should have some support
 for booting a Linux-VServer enabled kernel, although
 I do not have the details and/or know what version ...

According to this release announcement, the 5.2 release comes with vserver.

http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/knoppix52-en.html

Not sure if the vserver kernel is booted by default or needs a cheatcode. The 
only source for the DVD image is here SFAIK:

http://www.linuxtracker.org/download.php?id=3759name=Knoppix_5.2.iso.torrent

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Re: [Vserver] Linux-VServer Live CD?

2007-04-20 Thread Michael Luksch

Daniel Clark schrieb:

Has anyone made a LiveCD for Linux-VServer?


yup, a colleague of mine did so..(building liveCDs is his primary hobby ;)

i can make it available for ftp/http downloading for you on our companys 
server, if you want, but just temporarily for 1 to 2 days


it is based on gentoo 2006.1 build for i686

kernel  utils:
2.6.20-vs2.3.0.11-gentoo
sys-cluster/util-vserver-0.30.212-r2


Mit freundlichen Grüßen / best regards
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Re: [Vserver] Linux-VServer Live CD?

2007-04-20 Thread Daniel Clark

On 4/20/07, Michael Luksch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Daniel Clark schrieb:
 Has anyone made a LiveCD for Linux-VServer?

yup, a colleague of mine did so..(building liveCDs is his primary hobby ;)

i can make it available for ftp/http downloading for you on our company's
server, if you want, but just temporarily for 1 to 2 days


Thanks, that would be great - I could also give you a place to ftp it
to if that would be easier. If not making it more publicly available
is just a matter of bandwidth, I'd be willing to host it on my website
(at least unless/until it gets me over 2TB/month of traffic - I
redirect large downloads using Coblitz -
http://codeen.cs.princeton.edu/coblitz/ - so that is highly unlikely).


it is based on gentoo 2006.1 build for i686

kernel  utils:
2.6.20-vs2.3.0.11-gentoo
sys-cluster/util-vserver-0.30.212-r2


Mit freundlichen Grüßen / best regards
Michael Luksch
-
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[Vserver] anybody has experience for Vserver on ARM

2007-04-20 Thread Wenbin Zhang

Hi All,

Anybody has experiences for Vserver on ARM? I have lots of problems for
this.

Firstly I compiled the kernel with Vserver, then compiled the util-vserver.
However I haven't  made the util-vserver run on my Arm phone. The first
reason is my arm phone doesnot support Bash while vserver script is based on
Bash. Then I installed the Arm Bash on my phone. The next problem is getopt.
'Getopt' is required for Vserver script, but I cannot find a good Getopt
source and compile it on Arm.

And I also noticed duing Vserver setup phase, the program need connect with
outside to download some package. I still haven't find an easy way to
connect the Arm phone with internet. I am still thinking..

Anybody can share some experiences for this? thanks!

Wenbin
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Re: [Vserver] anybody has experience for Vserver on ARM

2007-04-20 Thread Herbert Poetzl
On Fri, Apr 20, 2007 at 09:35:13AM -0400, Wenbin Zhang wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 Anybody has experiences for Vserver on ARM? I have lots of problems
 for this.

yep, seems to works fine here ...

 Firstly I compiled the kernel with Vserver, then compiled the
 util-vserver. However I haven't made the util-vserver run on my Arm
 phone. The first reason is my arm phone doesnot support Bash while
 vserver script is based on Bash. Then I installed the Arm Bash on my
 phone. The next problem is getopt. 'Getopt' is required for Vserver
 script, but I cannot find a good Getopt source and compile it on Arm.

the getopt is a standalone tool which is part of
util-linux (so it should be easy to rebuild that
for arm) alternatively you can use the bash bult-
in getopts ...

 And I also noticed duing Vserver setup phase, the program need connect
 with outside to download some package. 

not really, but it depends on the build method
e.g. template based build methods will not need
any network access, while network :) based ones
will 

 I still haven't find an easy way to connect the Arm phone with
 internet. 

should be fairly trivial via bluetooth, just make
a pairing with a laptop and configure the network
to route over it, and masquerade the phone's ip
(probably private) ...

 I am still thinking.. Anybody can share some experiences for
 this? thanks!

best,
Herbert

 Wenbin

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Re: [Vserver] anybody has experience for Vserver on ARM

2007-04-20 Thread Martin
On Fri, 2007-04-20 at 09:35 -0400, Wenbin Zhang wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 Anybody has experiences for Vserver on ARM? I have lots of problems
 for this.
 
 Firstly I compiled the kernel with Vserver, then compiled the
 util-vserver.
 However I haven't  made the util-vserver run on my Arm phone. The
 first reason is my arm phone doesnot support Bash while vserver script
 is based on Bash. Then I installed the Arm Bash on my phone. The next
 problem is getopt. 'Getopt' is required for Vserver script, but I
 cannot find a good Getopt source and compile it on Arm. 
On my Debian system, getopt(1) is in util-linux, which it claims is
ported to ARM.  getopt(3) in in glibc, and should also work on ARM.

Sorry; that probably doesn't help.

Cheers,
 - Martin


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Re: [Vserver] suse/fedora on a as a VPS

2007-04-20 Thread Herbert Poetzl
On Fri, Apr 20, 2007 at 04:58:56PM +0200, Daniel wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 i tryid to install fedora for a vps on my host.
 I do i like:
 
 vhost04:~# vserver test0 build -m apt-rpm --hostname test0.nowhe.re 
 --interface 10.0.1.0 --netdev eth0 --netprefix 23 --context 42 -- -d fc4
 
 then i get follwing errors:
 
 ***  rpm-fake-resolver was built with glibc;  please do  ***
 ***  not report errors before trying a dietlibc version. ***
~~

 ***  rpm-fake-resolver was built with glibc;  please do  ***
 ***  not report errors before trying a dietlibc version. ***
~~

 rpm-fake-resolver: vc_ctx_migrate(): No such process
 rpm-fake.so: failed to initialize communication with resolver
 
 
 any1 know how i can fix it?

what part of 'please do not report errors before trying a 
dietlibc version' was hard to understand?

best,
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Re: [Vserver] suse/fedora on a as a VPS

2007-04-20 Thread Guenther Fuchs
Hi there,

on Friday, April 20, 2007 at 4:58:56 PM there was posted:

D i tryid to install fedora for a vps on my host.
D I do i like:
...
D eth0 --netprefix 23 --context 42 -- -d fc4

D then i get follwing errors:
...
D any1 know how i can fix it?

Not particulary your error - but have you tried the recommended
installation of FC4 using yum method instead?

 = http://oldwiki.linux-vserver.org/VServer+installation+Fedora+Core+4#g5

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Re: [Vserver] anybody has experience for Vserver on ARM

2007-04-20 Thread Wenbin Zhang

Hi Herbert and Martin,

Now I solved the getopt problem with recompiling the util-vserver package
for ARM, thanks!

Now The vserver script seems can run,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/sbin# vserver
Usage: /sbin/vserver vserver
{start|stop|suexec|restart|condrestart|exec|enter|chkconfig|running|status|delete}

However, I tried to run
#vserver va780 build -m yum --context 43 --hostname=va780 --interface
va7800=eth0:192.168.1.2/24 --rootdir /vserver1 --pkgbase /vserver1/.pkg --
-d gpe
to create a vserver, it told me:
ERROR: Can not find configuration for the distribution 'a780';
 please read http://linux-vserver.org/HowToRegisterNewDistributions
 for information how to add support for your own distribution.

However, if I remove the -d option, it told me:
ERROR: Can not determine distribution; please specify it manually with
 the '-d' option.

Any ideas? What distribution should be used for Arm? thanks!

Wenbin

On 4/20/07, Herbert Poetzl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Fri, Apr 20, 2007 at 09:35:13AM -0400, Wenbin Zhang wrote:
 Hi All,

 Anybody has experiences for Vserver on ARM? I have lots of problems
 for this.

yep, seems to works fine here ...

 Firstly I compiled the kernel with Vserver, then compiled the
 util-vserver. However I haven't made the util-vserver run on my Arm
 phone. The first reason is my arm phone doesnot support Bash while
 vserver script is based on Bash. Then I installed the Arm Bash on my
 phone. The next problem is getopt. 'Getopt' is required for Vserver
 script, but I cannot find a good Getopt source and compile it on Arm.

the getopt is a standalone tool which is part of
util-linux (so it should be easy to rebuild that
for arm) alternatively you can use the bash bult-
in getopts ...

 And I also noticed duing Vserver setup phase, the program need connect
 with outside to download some package.

not really, but it depends on the build method
e.g. template based build methods will not need
any network access, while network :) based ones
will 

 I still haven't find an easy way to connect the Arm phone with
 internet.

should be fairly trivial via bluetooth, just make
a pairing with a laptop and configure the network
to route over it, and masquerade the phone's ip
(probably private) ...

 I am still thinking.. Anybody can share some experiences for
 this? thanks!

best,
Herbert

 Wenbin

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Re: [Vserver] anybody has experience for Vserver on ARM

2007-04-20 Thread Herbert Poetzl
On Fri, Apr 20, 2007 at 12:01:26PM -0400, Wenbin Zhang wrote:
 Hi Herbert and Martin,
 
 Now I solved the getopt problem with recompiling the util-vserver package
 for ARM, thanks!
 
 Now The vserver script seems can run,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/sbin# vserver
 Usage: /sbin/vserver vserver
 {start|stop|suexec|restart|condrestart|exec|enter|chkconfig|running|status|delete}
 
 However, I tried to run
 #vserver va780 build -m yum --context 43 --hostname=va780 --interface
~~~
 va7800=eth0:192.168.1.2/24 --rootdir /vserver1 --pkgbase /vserver1/.pkg --
 -d gpe

you probably have to 'define' that distro first,
at least I don't think it is present in the defaults

 to create a vserver, it told me:
 ERROR: Can not find configuration for the distribution 'a780';
  please read http://linux-vserver.org/HowToRegisterNewDistributions
  for information how to add support for your own distribution.
 
 However, if I remove the -d option, it told me:
 ERROR: Can not determine distribution; please specify it manually with
  the '-d' option.
 
 Any ideas? What distribution should be used for Arm? thanks!

you could try debian?

best,
Herbert

 Wenbin
 
 On 4/20/07, Herbert Poetzl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 On Fri, Apr 20, 2007 at 09:35:13AM -0400, Wenbin Zhang wrote:
  Hi All,
 
  Anybody has experiences for Vserver on ARM? I have lots of problems
  for this.
 
 yep, seems to works fine here ...
 
  Firstly I compiled the kernel with Vserver, then compiled the
  util-vserver. However I haven't made the util-vserver run on my Arm
  phone. The first reason is my arm phone doesnot support Bash while
  vserver script is based on Bash. Then I installed the Arm Bash on my
  phone. The next problem is getopt. 'Getopt' is required for Vserver
  script, but I cannot find a good Getopt source and compile it on Arm.
 
 the getopt is a standalone tool which is part of
 util-linux (so it should be easy to rebuild that
 for arm) alternatively you can use the bash bult-
 in getopts ...
 
  And I also noticed duing Vserver setup phase, the program need connect
  with outside to download some package.
 
 not really, but it depends on the build method
 e.g. template based build methods will not need
 any network access, while network :) based ones
 will 
 
  I still haven't find an easy way to connect the Arm phone with
  internet.
 
 should be fairly trivial via bluetooth, just make
 a pairing with a laptop and configure the network
 to route over it, and masquerade the phone's ip
 (probably private) ...
 
  I am still thinking.. Anybody can share some experiences for
  this? thanks!
 
 best,
 Herbert
 
  Wenbin
 
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