[Vserver] Anybody else think this looks odd?
SIOCSIFNETMASK: Invalid argument Upon the start of all 3 of my vservers I get this line output first. I've seen something along these lines when there's a failed network on a "host" machine boot. Why would my vservers be doing this and what can I do to fix it? Also, this has been a problem since I was running Jack's vserver stuff (ctx-17 and 0.23) Allen "Chip" Parker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hosting in all shapes and sizes. ___ Vserver mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
RE: [Vserver] take me off this mailing list!!!!!!!!
Go to lists.linux-vserver.org and unsubscribe yourself. Please don't be a dick if you don't really need to be. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Haymond Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 9:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Vserver] take me off this mailing list please take me off this mailing list. Some one put me on it, to spite me. I beg you to take me off the list!!! Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard ___ Vserver mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
RE: [Vserver] hrm... another odd thing.. /dev/initctl?
I'm no programmer, but I do believe, it would be pretty nice if the "owner" of a context (fake "root" user) could halt/reboot *their* vserver via /sbin/init, /sbin/reboot or /sbin/halt. It'd be nice to have a way to pass messages *securely* back to something on the outside that would do a context id check (ie where's it coming from and what's it trying to apply those changes to) and then if everything checks out, does the vserver start/stop/restart. I personally can't figure out what to do about this *other* than figure out what the hell keeps calling it and removing it from the "halt" script (the same one that kills errant processes on vserver stop). Just my $.02 Allen Parker > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:vserver- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Herbert Poetzl > Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2003 7:07 AM > To: Allen Parker > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Vserver] hrm... another odd thing.. /dev/initctl? > > On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 03:35:23AM -0500, Allen Parker wrote: > > init: timeout opening/writing control channel /dev/initctl > > on a 'normal' server, init and telinit are often the > same binary, and the 'init' process knows that it is > init by verifying that it's pid equals 1 ... > > when init is started, it opens a pipe, which reads > the commands given by telinit and halt, poweroff, etc. > > possible causes for this message therefor are: > > - init/telinit is called but not as pid == 1 > - reboot, halt, poweroff are called without -f > - init is started as 'faked' pid 1 but this >doesn't work as expected yet ... > > possible solutions: > > - add some userspace tool outside the vserver >which opens/reads the pipe and acts accordingly > - find the 'bad' invocation and 'improve' it >or remove it, if not required > - demonstrate that it is a vserver misbehaviour >which requires some code change ;) > > HTH, > Herbert > > > util-vserver-0.24 kernel-2.4.22-vs1.00 > > > > Allen Dale Parker > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > "ego sum ens ompnipotens" > > > > > > ___ > > Vserver mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver > ___ > Vserver mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver ___ Vserver mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
[Vserver] util-vserver-0.24 gentoo compatibility patch
Herbert, still having a problem (after this patch) with /dev/initctl :( kernel 2.4.22-vs1.1.3 util-vserver-0.24 Vi, pico, nano, whatever your /tmp/gentoo.patch to use my script (including auto-backup) Add this to /tmp/gentoo.patch to make it happen... 471a472,473 > elif [ -x $VROOTDIR/$1/usr/bin/emerge ] ; then > STARTCMD="/sbin/rc default" 584a587,588 > elif [ -x $VROOTDIR/$1/usr/bin/emerge ] ; then > STOPCMD="/sbin/rc shutdown" #!/bin/bash # output the patch contents cd /tmp # that variable thing... VSLOC=`whereis vserver | cut -d " " -f 2` # backup the bitch cp $VSLOC $VSLOC.unpatched # patch the bitch patch -p0 $VSLOC < /tmp/gentoo.patch cd - #end of script Hopefully this fixes the "Gentoo problem" in util-vserver :-p could this possibly be added to util-vserver for Gentoo compatibility? Or perhaps bring back the S_START and S_STOP config variables? This has been tested working by me personally... Just an fyi, if you're running Gentoo, it'd be a good idea to add "/sbin/depscan.sh && sleep 2" to the 3 or 4th line of /sbin/rc to make sure that your /var/lib/init.d tree gets regenerated automatically at boot. Allen "Chip" Parker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hosting in all shapes and sizes. ___ Vserver mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
RE: [Vserver] vserver & gentoo, anyone?
I did a Gentoo virtualization last night and I'm emerge -e world'ing right now, if you need to contact me directly, please do, I'd be happy to help support you over the phone or any instant message clients. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:vserver- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ian douglas > Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 5:13 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [Vserver] vserver & gentoo, anyone? > > Hey all, > > I lost my local archive of vserver Emails ... Outlook happily deleted the > entire folder for me and made it happily unrecoverable. > > Just curious if anyone's had success installing Linux 'gentoo' as a base > and > getting vserver to behave well on it? I'm hoping to play around with it a > little this week. > > -id > > > ___ > Vserver mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver ___ Vserver mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
RE: [Vserver] vserver & gentoo, anyone?
Come to irc.oftc.net #vserver I'm infowolfe if you have any questions. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:vserver- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ian douglas > Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 5:13 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [Vserver] vserver & gentoo, anyone? > > Hey all, > > I lost my local archive of vserver Emails ... Outlook happily deleted the > entire folder for me and made it happily unrecoverable. > > Just curious if anyone's had success installing Linux 'gentoo' as a base > and > getting vserver to behave well on it? I'm hoping to play around with it a > little this week. > > -id > > > ___ > Vserver mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver ___ Vserver mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
RE: [Vserver] vserver & gentoo, anyone?
I've been working with the Gentoo development team to get as many kinks ironed out as possible. I've gotten a "stage1" modification done for virtualization of my own machine with the only "major" change being me adding /sbin/depscan.sh to the 4th line of /sbin/rc ... the rest of the changes are basically faking things like mount/umount and working with making a decent syslogd (syslog-ng) work correctly (metalog will be my next task). I've been talking with avenj and will be talking to seemant the next time I see him (he got married today), in regards to creating a new Gentoo profile for vservers. I've spent MOST of this evening working on getting a reliable version-independent ebuild for util-vserver going and will be working on that the rest of this week. Hopefully by Monday next week I'll have had avenj/seemant at the very least ok the ebuild for the portage tree. At that point, I'll be proposing the creation of a sys-vserver/ category to carpaski (portage maintainer), to house util-vserver, jack's vserver, and vserver-base (a modified Gentoo baselayout). Once the userland stuff is taken care of, I'll be creating an ebuild (if nobody else has) of sys-kernel/vserver-sources including masking of all versions of the vserver patchsets including experimental >= vs1.00. In that respect, when I have decent Gentoo vserver support taken care of, I'll be working on setting up stage1, stage2 and stage3 vserver images as well as some helper scripts and patches that allow a system to have one /usr/portage (except distfiles, which would be on a per-machine basis), and disabling emerge sync inside a vserver. When I've got the backend portion of things done, I'll be working on documenting what I've done. Ian, he probably started stage1, If I were you, I'd take advantage of GRP and stage3 installs. You'll only be building a kernel initially and it really streamlines the install process. If you have any questions for me, PLEASE, don't hesitate to ask, I'd be more than happy to help you in whatever way I can. OFF TOPIC: I had a nice long conversation with lilo tonight (if you know about freenode/openprojects, you'll know the name), and I'd really like to see a #vserver there instead of oftc. Freenode/openprojects has a much better userbase (see: http://irc.netsplit.de/networks/ oftc.net isn't even in the top 20), with #gentoo as the top channel (*grin*) I know *our* userbase isn't that huge, but I really think that freenode is the best network for a project that cooperates as we do. Politics is something I really don't like to get stuck in the middle of, and it seems from reading the sites of both oftc and freenode that freenode is DEFINITELY attempting to distance itself of any of that nonsense. I figure that if oftc were serious about running a network instead of having a virtual government, perhaps they'd be a better network. At this point, I'm personally boycotting oftc as a network. If you'd like to speak to me about *my* contributions to the linux-vserver project or the Gentoo linux distribution, feel free to join irc.freenode.net and /msg infowolfe, if I'm around, I'll definitely answer you as soon as is humanly possible. Citing: 1) http://www.freenode.net/philosophy.shtml 2) http://www.oftc.net/constitution/index.html I only ask that before you flame/attack me personally, that you investigate your own truths and decide for yourself what you'd rather believe. The man I spoke with tonight (lilo - Rob Levin), is a man of bruised, if not broken spirit. Freenode and lilo for that matter, really don't have anything wrong with them, he's a cheerful, upbeat guy overall, and stresses that his #1 priority is treating his users and channels with respect. I also had a conversation with dmwaters (Deedra), his senior staffer tonight, and they're really not what they've been made out to be. They're just trying to provide something above and beyond to the open source community, and if linux-vserver, it's users or project developers are more interested in politics than getting the job done (which I haven't seen, and is one of the reasons I'm so invested in this project), perhaps I should make a choice of my own and discontinue doing what I can do for a project I believe in. That's my $.02, I don't mean any disrespect to anyone, just airing my opinion in a public forum. Cheers, and keep up the good work! (btw, friends call me Chip, if you're on this list, you're considered a friend) Chip. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:vserver- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cedric Veilleux > Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 10:41 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Vserver] vserver & gentoo, anyone? > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On November 18, 2003 05:56 pm, ian douglas wrote: > > any 'gtochas' that you care to share up-front? > > > > I've never even seen gentoo, I'm just getting the ISO's onto my system > now > > to burn CD's to see what the instal
RE: [Vserver] vserver & gentoo, anyone?
> > Citing: 1) http://www.freenode.net/philosophy.shtml > > 2) http://www.oftc.net/constitution/index.html > > > > Hi Chip! > > please elaborate, and do not 'boycott' without giving > some rationale or explaining the how and why ... > > I don't see a reason for changing the irc network, > so please give me some hints ... or ask the community, > if the majority is for a change, we'll probably move > _again_ ... if you just wan't a broader audience, why > not 'reactivate' the bridge we had between oftc and > freenode? I've got a few reasons why *I* am not willing to support oftc. First off, I feel that personal attacks against the owner of a network are pretty petty, if not immature. I feel that politics really should have no business in a meeting place that is supposed to welcome developers and users alike with open arms. (see constitution, that's a virtual gov't, not an irc network!) The network's owner, lilo aka Robert Levin, has been personally attacked from so many places that I think it's amazing that he's still running a network at all, let alone one that hosts a project as busy as #gentoo. For that, I give him credit. I've had one on one conversations with lilo about all kinds of things, and most of the bad press he's had in the past has been exactly that, in the past. In the amount of time I've spent on freenode, they've been mostly stable, and doing a wonderful job for their budget (absolutely nothing). If anyone would like to see some of the conversations between myself and lilo, feel free to ask me off-list and I'll gladly send them to you. Personally, in my conversations with lilo, I've found one thing out: despite extreme personal financial hardship, he's managed to keep one of the busier irc networks up. I think that lilo expresses why I'm not interested in supporting oftc in any way shape or form best: [14:35] I guess I'm not enthusiastic about politics because it always seems to me to be about either trying to divert resources from someone else's project to your own, or trying to prevent someone from doing that. The basic gist of why I chose to stop supporting oftc is this: I'd rather not support *in any way* a network/project/person that is willing to slander another to get ahead. Google for "lilo openprojects" click a few pages... you'll see lots and lots of stuff from a long time ago, and shouldn't see anything recently. In regards to lilo wallop'ing asking for donations, that hasn't happened since august of 2002. ___ Vserver mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
[Vserver] first stage of Gentoo ebuilds completed
I've completed ebuilds for util-vserver versions:
0.25
0.24
0.24.91
0.24.90
0.23.6
0.23.5
If you'd like me to send one of them to you or make them publicly available,
feel free to ask, I'll be seeing what I can do about getting them to either
carpaski or Aether (2 of gentoo's portage maintainers) sometime before this
weekend. Next on the list is Jack's vserver-0.2x and after that,
sys-kernel/vserver-sources. If you'd like to see the
util-vserver-0.25.ebuild please see below, you'll have to emerge sync &&
emerge -up world, and if you're going to emerge it directly or ebuild it,
you'll have to prefix it with FEATURES="-userpriv" until we can get that bug
sorted. These have been proven to build cleanly on 3 of my systems and
Aether did a test build for me to see if it'd build for him and it was all
successful. I HAVE set KEYWORDS="~x86" on this until it's deemed "stable" by
the portage maintainers.
Allen "Chip" Parker
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Util-vserver-0.25.ebuild:
# Copyright 1999-2003 Gentoo Technologies, Inc.
# Distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License v2
# $Header: $
DESCRIPTION="Util-Vserver s_context Management utilities"
HOMEPAGE="http://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/util-vserver/";
SRC_URI="http://savannah.nongnu.org/download/util-vserver/stable.pkg/${PV}/$
{P}.tar.bz2"
LICENSE="GPL-2"
SLOT="${PV}"
KEYWORDS="~x86"
RESTRICT="nomirror"
IUSE=""
S=${WORKDIR}/${P}
src_compile() {
./configure \
--host=${CHOST} \
--exec-prefix=/usr \
--prefix=/ \
--infodir=/usr/share/info \
--mandir=/usr/share/man || die "./configure failed"
emake || die
}
src_install() {
make DESTDIR=${D} install || die
}
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RE: [Vserver] first stage of Gentoo ebuilds completed
If you're a Gentoo person, see bugs.gentoo.org bug #s 33905/33906. Currently
working on that userpriv thing, have changed everything in "stable" release
on util-vserver to KEYWORDS="x86" and rc's to KEYWORDS="~x86" .
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:vserver-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allen D. Parker II
> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 3:41 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [Vserver] first stage of Gentoo ebuilds completed
>
> I've completed ebuilds for util-vserver versions:
>
> 0.25
> 0.24
> 0.24.91
> 0.24.90
> 0.23.6
> 0.23.5
>
> If you'd like me to send one of them to you or make them publicly
> available,
> feel free to ask, I'll be seeing what I can do about getting them to
> either
> carpaski or Aether (2 of gentoo's portage maintainers) sometime before
> this
> weekend. Next on the list is Jack's vserver-0.2x and after that,
> sys-kernel/vserver-sources. If you'd like to see the
> util-vserver-0.25.ebuild please see below, you'll have to emerge sync &&
> emerge -up world, and if you're going to emerge it directly or ebuild it,
> you'll have to prefix it with FEATURES="-userpriv" until we can get that
> bug
> sorted. These have been proven to build cleanly on 3 of my systems and
> Aether did a test build for me to see if it'd build for him and it was all
> successful. I HAVE set KEYWORDS="~x86" on this until it's deemed "stable"
> by
> the portage maintainers.
>
> Allen "Chip" Parker
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Hosting in all shapes and sizes.
>
> Util-vserver-0.25.ebuild:
> # Copyright 1999-2003 Gentoo Technologies, Inc.
> # Distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License v2
> # $Header: $
>
> DESCRIPTION="Util-Vserver s_context Management utilities"
> HOMEPAGE="http://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/util-vserver/";
> SRC_URI="http://savannah.nongnu.org/download/util-
> vserver/stable.pkg/${PV}/$
> {P}.tar.bz2"
> LICENSE="GPL-2"
> SLOT="${PV}"
> KEYWORDS="~x86"
> RESTRICT="nomirror"
> IUSE=""
>
> S=${WORKDIR}/${P}
>
> src_compile() {
> ./configure \
> --host=${CHOST} \
> --exec-prefix=/usr \
> --prefix=/ \
> --infodir=/usr/share/info \
> --mandir=/usr/share/man || die "./configure failed"
> emake || die
> }
>
> src_install() {
> make DESTDIR=${D} install || die
> }
>
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RE: [Vserver] first stage of Gentoo ebuilds completed
If you're interested in getting a "gentoo-sources" kernel, I'd be happy to
pass the patches along to you or even better, give you access to a Gentoo
box with which you can play as long as you don't install the kernels and
reboot the machine :-p. I was thinking of creating vserver-sources as a
vanilla kernel with all of the >= vs1.00 versions having their own ebuilds.
Kernels you list as "stable" would be in their KEYWORDS="x86" tree (stable)
and kernels you list as development releases would be in their
KEYWORDS="~x86" (unstable) tree. I would basically have the box download (if
it didn't already have it) whatever kernel-version is "stable" at the moment
and allow the user to pick whatever else they wanted if they forced the
build themselves via emerge
/usr/portage/sys-kernel/vserver-sources/vserver-source-2.4.22-vs1.00.ebuild
as an example.
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:vserver-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Herbert Poetzl
> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 7:50 AM
> To: Allen D. Parker II
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Vserver] first stage of Gentoo ebuilds completed
>
> On Thu, Nov 20, 2003 at 03:41:16AM -0500, Allen D. Parker II wrote:
> > I've completed ebuilds for util-vserver versions:
> >
> > 0.25
> > 0.24
> > 0.24.91
> > 0.24.90
> > 0.23.6
> > 0.23.5
> >
> > If you'd like me to send one of them to you or make them publicly
> available,
> > feel free to ask, I'll be seeing what I can do about getting them to
> either
> > carpaski or Aether (2 of gentoo's portage maintainers) sometime before
> this
> > weekend. Next on the list is Jack's vserver-0.2x and after that,
> > sys-kernel/vserver-sources. If you'd like to see the
>
> I don't know how/if gentoo kernel is different from
> vanilla kernel, but in case you need help with 'adapting'
> the patches to some already patched kernel, please let
> me know, I'm willing to assist/help in doing so ...
>
> thanks,
> Herbert
>
> > util-vserver-0.25.ebuild please see below, you'll have to emerge sync &&
> > emerge -up world, and if you're going to emerge it directly or ebuild
> it,
> > you'll have to prefix it with FEATURES="-userpriv" until we can get that
> bug
> > sorted. These have been proven to build cleanly on 3 of my systems and
> > Aether did a test build for me to see if it'd build for him and it was
> all
> > successful. I HAVE set KEYWORDS="~x86" on this until it's deemed
> "stable" by
> > the portage maintainers.
> >
> > Allen "Chip" Parker
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > Hosting in all shapes and sizes.
> >
> > Util-vserver-0.25.ebuild:
> > # Copyright 1999-2003 Gentoo Technologies, Inc.
> > # Distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License v2
> > # $Header: $
> >
> > DESCRIPTION="Util-Vserver s_context Management utilities"
> > HOMEPAGE="http://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/util-vserver/";
> > SRC_URI="http://savannah.nongnu.org/download/util-
> vserver/stable.pkg/${PV}/$
> > {P}.tar.bz2"
> > LICENSE="GPL-2"
> > SLOT="${PV}"
> > KEYWORDS="~x86"
> > RESTRICT="nomirror"
> > IUSE=""
> >
> > S=${WORKDIR}/${P}
> >
> > src_compile() {
> > ./configure \
> > --host=${CHOST} \
> > --exec-prefix=/usr \
> > --prefix=/ \
> > --infodir=/usr/share/info \
> > --mandir=/usr/share/man || die "./configure failed"
> > emake || die
> > }
> >
> > src_install() {
> > make DESTDIR=${D} install || die
> > }
> >
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RE: [Vserver] [Announcement] util-vserver 0.26
Or if you're willing to throw off the .deb stigma, just build everything from source. If you setup some configure scripts like I have in your /usr/src you'll know where each package dumps it's stuff. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:vserver- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bert De Vuyst > Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 3:23 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Vserver] [Announcement] util-vserver 0.26 > > On Tuesday 25 November 2003 21:01, ian douglas wrote: > > > But maybe one should package util-vserver and upload it as independant > > > package? > > > > Any chance someone has the whole vserver setup in a debian package? I > have > > a very minimal installation (200M or so) on a fresh server of 'woody', > and > > would like to get started with vserver on that system. When I FTP'd to > > Jacques' site though, he only had RPM's for the vserver-admin package, > no > > source package at all. > > - Download the vserver source packages for debian testing from a debian > mirror > - build the packages (this should run out of the box on a debian 3.0) > - this wil give you a vserver package for debian 3.0 > > Download the kernel source form a kernel.org mirror and get the kernel > patch > from the linux-vserver site. > patch the kernel source and configure the kernel > compile the kernel using make-kpkg (kernel-package), this will give you a > debian package you can install. > > Reboot your machine > > Download the script "debian-newvserver.sh" at the next URL: >http://www.paul.sladen.org/vserver/debian/ > > Customize it a bit to fit your needs (make sure you set the VSERVERS_ROOT) > > I hope this can help you, > > Bert. > > ___ > Vserver mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver ___ Vserver mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
RE: [Vserver] Traffic control
*snip* > see freevps. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# chcontext --ctx 1 cat /proc/vservers/3 > New security context is 1 > vserver id 3 > .. > Addresses assigned : > lo(none):127.0.0.1/255.0.0.0; > > Incoming traffic : 30 Kb > Outgoing traffic : 47 Kb Are there any standalone patches for recent kernels (like Herbert's 2.4.23-vs1.22?) How hard would it be to backport the freevps /proc/vservers to "our" vs1.XX? I think it'd be nice to be able to have these features while still running a recent kernel (not 2.4.18) anybody else think so too? ___ Vserver mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
RE: [Vserver] Announce - Bastard Patchset (version 0.13d)
*snip* > > Oh, and sorry for the term 'stable', let's replace it with > > 'old', that way we can avoid having to synchronize what > > 'stable' actually means. > patches for non-debian distros are where? Does anyone else that has actually run Debian find this hilarious? "old" == "Debian" "old" != "non-debian" (patches) That just brightened my day... and btw, Dariush, you'd better not let any Debian zealots get word of your releasing a 2.4.23 .deb, they'll find you and burn you at the stake. Allen Parker Hardcore-Linux.net Running Gentoo proudly since May '03 1x Gentoo Linux-Vserver host 2x Gentoo Linux-Vserver contexts Stable as a rock! ___ Vserver mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
RE: [Vserver] Announce - Bastard Patchset (version 0.13d) - OT
Lol, I *still* can't grow one! (not a full one anyway, and I'm 22! Damn my father's Native American blood!) > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:vserver- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dariush Pietrzak > Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2003 3:05 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Vserver] Announce - Bastard Patchset (version 0.13d) > > > Running Gentoo proudly since May '03 > that's nothing.. how about: > Growing beard since 1995. > > -- > Key fingerprint = 40D0 9FFB 9939 7320 8294 05E0 BCC7 02C4 75CC 50D9 > ___ > Vserver mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver ___ Vserver mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
RE: [Vserver] Kernel 2.6.0..
I'll be the first to jump on the testing bandwagon! I've been looking for 2.6 vserver support because 2.6 does some very nice things with my router's cpu (via c3 nemiah core hw random number generator support). > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:vserver- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Herbert Poetzl > Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 8:33 AM > To: Luís Miguel Silva > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Vserver] Kernel 2.6.0.. > > On Tue, Dec 30, 2003 at 11:58:06AM -, Luís Miguel Silva wrote: > > Hello all, > > > > Im sorry if this as already been discussed on this mailing list but, is > > there going to be any vserver support for the 2.6.x kernel series? > > yup, is there going to be any vserver 2.6 testing? ;) > > TIA, > Herbert > > > > > Best regards and happy new year! > > +--- > > | Luís Miguel Silva > > | Network Administrator@ ISPGaya.pt > > | Rua António Rodrigues da Rocha, 291/341 > > | Sto. Ovídio 4400-025 V. N. de Gaia > > | Portugal > > | T: +351 22 3745730/3/5 F: +351 22 3745738 > > | G: +351 93 6371253 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > | H: http://lms.ispgaya.pt/ > > +--- > > > > > > ___ > > Vserver mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver > ___ > Vserver mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver ___ Vserver mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
RE: [Vserver] At the Eve of this Year ...
Hear Hear! Well said Bert! If at all possible, I'd love to see some of the features of the "business" vps solutions built on the Linux-VServer project re-integrated into the main tree. If there's anything I personally can do to help, I'd be happy to test just about anything for you as well as help you bughunt. I only have 2 more words for you: Good Job! Chip, aka infowolfe > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:vserver- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Herbert Poetzl > Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 9:28 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [Vserver] At the Eve of this Year ... > > > > Per Aspera Ad Astra! > > First I would like to thank everyone from the bottom > of my heart who contributed to Linux-VServer development. > We value every aid we get in striving for our ultimate > goal, to provide the best Virtual Private Server solution > for free (as in speech and beer ;) > > The future looks bright, and I'm confident, that the next > year will be an interesting one. Well, at least the last > quarter of this year was interesting for me ... ;) > > > A Three Month Retrospective > (or This Year for Linux-VServer) > > At the end of September after maintaining and rediffing > Vserver patches for over a year, I decided to take over > the leadership of Linux-VServer. > > A month later, Jack had returned and officially handed > over project leadership to me, the first 'brand new' > Linux-Vserver release was done on the 1st of November. > > Since then, we had four (4) stable releases, and nine > (9) development release, and Linux-Vserver was ported > to eleven (11) different architectures, and three non > mainline kernels. > > Last but not least the multitude of 'new' and 'improved' > userspace tools and scripts, aiding in vserver creation, > maintenance and testing. > > Maybe Linux-VServer development did happen a little too > fast, or maybe the community just wasn't used to this > kind of 'rapid evolution', anyway I think it was very > beneficial for all who joined and controlled the game. > > > And the Future? > > First I hope that ALL community members, especially those > who are still paralyzed by the high release frequency, > may speak up, and let us all know, what direction they > would like best, what path we shall take in the future. > > This doesn't mean that I have no plans for Linux-VServer, > this just means, that I would like to collect your ideas > and desires to lay a path which suits the community most. > > Second, I would like to integrate commercially interested > groups of the vserver community (the business people ;) > more deeply into the development process, and as a start, > I would like to form a platform, where hosting providers > can deposit, discuss and share their requirements, issues > and solutions regarding Linux-VServer in an appropriate > way they consider useful. > > And of course, development, development and development ... > > > I honestly hope, that You enjoyed the journey as much > I did, and that you will continue accompany me ... > > thanks for this year, > and good luck for the next, > Herbert > > > ___ > Vserver mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver ___ Vserver mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
RE: [Vserver] At the Eve of this Year ...
James, please contact me off-list in regards to gentoo gotchas. I don't have the time to get it all down in an email, but I could blow through most of it verbally. OR... if you can wait a week, I can provide you a "basic" gentoo install with postfix, apache, mysql, mod_php, syslog-ng and all the normal stuff in the 2004.0 release. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:vserver- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Noble > Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 9:48 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Vserver] At the Eve of this Year ... > > Id like to be the first to Congratulate Herbert for doing such a great > job, Lets all toast Herbert this New Years! > > Have a happy new year, and see you all in 2004. > > James Noble > > *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** > > On 12/31/2003 at 3:27 PM Herbert Poetzl wrote: > > >Second, I would like to integrate commercially interested > >groups of the vserver community (the business people ;) > >more deeply into the development process, and as a start, > >I would like to form a platform, where hosting providers > >can deposit, discuss and share their requirements, issues > >and solutions regarding Linux-VServer in an appropriate > >way they consider useful. > > > > > ___ > Vserver mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver ___ Vserver mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
RE: [Vserver] One more "Strange" one.
Please send us a sample vserver .conf file. If S_CAPS != "CAP_NET_RAW" ping
is disallowed from inside a vserver. Virtual Server contexts aren't allowed
to mount/unmount anything on the host machine.
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:vserver-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roderick A. Anderson
> Sent: Friday, January 02, 2004 12:35 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [Vserver] One more "Strange" one.
>
> I just ran into a new strange one. I have some more research to do and
> 'obviously' an upgrade but I'll bring it up incase it is actually a PEBKAC
> (Problem Exists Between Keyboard And Chair).
>
> Vserver kernel 2.4.20ctx-17. This strange problem first came up while I
> was trying to upgrade to a newer vserver kernel so a simple upgrade isn't
> an option right now/simply.
>
> Here is the problem. I can't get a ping, dig, ssh, or smbmount to work
> when logged in via ssh as root.
>
> The first strangeness is I have a script that runs via cron and mounts
> SMB/CIF shares on Win2K systems but I can't run the same command(s) from
> the command line. I get a permission denied when I try the smbmount and a
> socket error when I try to ping, dig, or wget.
>
> The second strangeness I can use the wget and dig (ssh also I think)
> from inside a vserver. Go figure eh?
>
> Well as time permits I'll try an upgrade to a newer kernel and see if this
> fixes the problem. But if this rings a bell for anyone please take a
> swing with a clue stick.
>
>
> Rod
> --
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RE: [Vserver] Commercial virtual server sofware
Paul, you might want to talk to James Noble, I'm not sure about the NDAs required by them to run Virtuozzo or Ensim, but I *know* they've got both and they're looking to migrate to linux-vserver (ensim from what I hear is a cpu-hog.. and I know firsthand that virtuozzo is about a year behind in kernel stuff and afaik, they're adding redhat 8 support just this year.) > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:vserver- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Sladen > Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 9:50 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Vserver] Commercial virtual server sofware > > On Thu, 8 Jan 2004, Gregory (Grisha) Trubetskoy wrote: > > Hello Greg, > > [First, let me carefully state that I have not used either of the > proprietary products you mention.] > > If anyone has a legal way for me to have a look at them, without the need > for me to sign an NDA, I'd be happy to do a more recent write-up comparing > the various technologies and approaches, I started but didn't finish this: > (Dated October 2002...) > > http://www.paul.sladen.org/vserver/howto.html > > > I've seen quite a few mentions of Virtuozzo and Ensim VPS solutions. > > Virtuozzo (based on the two-year-old kernel source code I've seen) is > *very* > like `vserver'. The code that I have is here: > > http://www.paul.sladen.org/vserver/aspcomplete/ > > Ensim is similar to FreeVSD in that [I believe] it is a pure-userspace > solution and as you describe it is ``very like a chroot''. > > > The best I could determine is Virtuozzo is more like vmware, > > Definately not, it has the same advantages that vserver has--which is the > security and separation without the overhead. Neither is Virtuozzo like > UML (multiple kernels). > > H-Sphere can now use `vserver' underneath after the work IIRC Alex was > paid > to do in adding the features they specifically wanted. > > What Virtuozzo/Ensim/H-Sphere/Whatever *do* have going for them are the > management tools built on top. Things like replication are wrapped up in > a nice clickable HTML button and a end-user `lickable' GUI/Web front-end. > > The same reason people buy Cobalt Raqs; > the *interface* is what they are paying for. > > Hope that helps, E&OE, corrections welcomed, > > -Paul > -- > War is inconsistent with Truth. London, GB > > > > ___ > Vserver mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver ___ Vserver mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
RE: [Vserver] future 2.6 development ...
> I would like to get your opinion on that, especially > regarding the following questions: > > 1) should the 2.4 branch be frozen, and if when? Linus/Marcello have already frozen 2.4... I know the only thing keeping me from migrating my personal system at work to 2.6 is the immaturity of linux-vserver. So... my vote is when 2.6.4 is released, 2.4 development should be frozen except for bugfixes. 2.6 is a VERY nice kernel, builds faster, has better memory management... at least on my 1GB machines.. and overall has better support for a wider range of hardware... (the 3ware and megaraid controllers both benefit from a pretty decent code cleanup) > 2) is it bad if 2.4 and 2.6 branches diverge? No. > 3) is multitude (2.4/2.6/2.6SE) preferred over > development speed? Definitely not. I'd love to see a stable 2.6 patchset released ASAP with new capabilities being added to 2.6 with a possible 2.6-mm patchset also. (x86-64 support is a BIG issue for me personally as I have a couple opterons that I'd like to put vserver on... that are already running Gentoo.) > 4) is a 2.4/2.6 migration path important to you? It'd be nice to not have to redo the configs and to be able to drop in a new version of Enrico's tools over the current versions and not have issues. > 5) what branch 2.4, 2.6 or 2.6SE would you prefer? 2.6 or 2.6SE > 6) what branch/version do you currently use/test? 2.4.24-ck1-vs1.3.4 (personal box at work), 2.4.24-vs1.2.4 (production box for client), 2.6.2 (router), 2.6.2 (mp3/audio encoder), 2.6.2-mm/2.4.24-(current experimental vs) planned for dual athlon mp (new box, got it tonight) if 2.4.24 will support my S/ATA 4 port megaraid controller > > TIA, > Herbert Herbert, let me thank you for your time and effort on this project, beggars can't be choosers, but if I have a choice, those are the votes I will cast. I feel that it's important to look into getting support for 2.6 for the reasons stated above. I'd really rather not be running 2.4 kernels for too much longer on my production machines. Chip irc.oftc.net/#vserver/infowolfe ___ Vserver mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
