re: [Vserver] Intel or AMD

2005-09-02 Thread Jacques Gelinas
On Thu, 1 Sep 2005 12:55:02 -0500, Lyn St George wrote
 Hallo all
 
 I don't have an AMD machine to test this on, so have to ask.
 
 Are there any known problems running vservers on an AMD
 host? Anyone have experience with loads and uptimes compared
 to Intel chips?
 
 (I have a dual Xeon which is crashing too frequently and needs
 to be changed, while the other single Pentiums are fine). 

Here since a year, everything  is dual opterons and some quad opterons. We have
around 20 of those (tyan motherboards). We are running FC3 64 bits but
most vservers are FC3 32 bits. Running 32 bits vservers on 64 bits kernel is
faster, sometime a lot faster, compared to a 32 bits kernel (Running 64 bits
vservers is probably faster as well).

64 bits vservers are using more memory, so running 32 bits vservers may be
a win here.

After doing various benchmarks, I would say Intel has nothing to offer.

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Re: [Vserver] V_xxxx not running ?

2005-07-27 Thread Jacques Gelinas
On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 18:12:01 -0500, Enrico Scholz wrote
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  Chasing each and every config file of services started on your
  host (apache:443, SSH, mySQL, postgreSQL, etc.)
 
 ssh should never be started through v_ssh as every shell inherits the
 network restrictions else.So it will be impossible to do administrative
 tasks like (re)starting vservers.

This was lost from the 2.4 kernel version of the vserver. root in context 0
was allowed to reset its iproot.

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Re: [Vserver] V_xxxx not running ?

2005-07-27 Thread Jacques Gelinas
On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 19:49:03 -0500, Herbert Poetzl wrote
 On Wed, Jul 27, 2005 at 10:37:48AM -0500, Jacques Gelinas wrote:
  On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 18:12:01 -0500, Enrico Scholz wrote

  This was lost from the 2.4 kernel version of the vserver. root in
  context 0 was allowed to reset its iproot.
 
 well, not lost :) but it was changed, yes ...

What was the reason ?

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re: [Vserver] Vserver kernel 2.6 and distro 2.4

2005-06-13 Thread Jacques Gelinas
On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:36:01 -0500, Jean-Christophe Petit wrote
 Hello,
 
 is it possible to use 2.4 kernel distros inside vservers that use a main 
 2.6 kernel with patch-2.6.11.11-vs2.0-rc4.diff ?

Yes. We do this all the time.

For some application (rpm for one), you set the LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.4.19
variable.

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re: [Vserver] Can't start vserver on x86_64 with 2.6.11-rc3-vs1.94

2005-02-17 Thread Jacques Gelinas
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 14:33:05 -0500, Paul S. Gumerman wrote
 I'm at the point where I need some help.
 
 The machine is a dual Opteron, with Fedora Core 3 installed.  I've 
 downloaded a vanilla 2.6.11rc-3 kernel, and patched it with the latest 
 vs1.94-rc4 patch set, which applied and built cleanly.  Then I built the 
 util-vserver packages from source, and installed them with rpm.
 
 Since I want to try things first with a FC3 x86_64 virtual server, I 
 ended up using the legacy option to build vserver vts64.  I then 
 edited rc.sysinit to remove most everything.  I also created a test 
 server with the skeleton build option, and used that info and info 
 from Google to create the newer config files for vts64.  I'm fairly 
 certain that all the config stuff is good.
 
 But ..  when I try to start the vserver, I get this error message:
 
   vcontext: execvp(/etc/rc.d/rc): No such file or directory

Do you have /lib64 installed in the vserver ?

Maybe the build strategy ignore this directory (which only exists on x64).

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Re: next gen platform (was Re: [Vserver] VServer 2.6.9-1.9.3 uptime63d :-))

2005-01-20 Thread Jacques Gelinas
On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 19:50:01 -0500, Gregory (Grisha) Trubetskoy wrote
 
 If it boots and runs as expected, then you're not losing anything. That's 
 just my opinion :-) I think the RH patches are mostly for specific 
 hardware and various esoteric things that they need to work, I've yet to 
 find a problem with the vanilla kernel.

This is one requirement of the Fedora project. It has to work with vanilla 
kernels.


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Re: next gen platform (was Re: [Vserver] VServer 2.6.9-1.9.3 uptime63d :-))

2005-01-20 Thread Jacques Gelinas
On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 11:54:02 -0500, Roderick A. Anderson wrote
 On Wed, 19 Jan 2005, Eric Jorgensen wrote:
 
  I've now been looking to make a switch for my host OS.
   I was less than impressed with Fedora Core 1 and 2,
  but have been quite pleased with Fedora Core 3, at
  least on the desktop.
 
 Jacques did a pretty good promo for Vserver on the linuxconf list and I 
 got the impression from it he has at least one Vserver running FC3.  I 
 was going to ask him about the steps he uses to build the the FC3 vserver 
 kernel -- plus a few other questions -- hopefully today.  When I hear back 
 I'll let you know ... well actually I think he might lurk here a bit.

We have few FC3 here using 2.6.9vs1.9.3. No tricks in the kernel.
Some are opteron systems (64 bits) and runs 32 vservers all fine.

I have also FC3 vservers running inside rh9 (using 2.4 or 2.6 kernels).

There is no particular steps. I can supply the kernel config file if you want.

 
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Re: [Vserver] debian diffs for vserver 0.29 tools anyone?

2003-12-17 Thread Jacques Gelinas
On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 09:11:00 -0500, Ivo De Decker wrote
 On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 03:39:05PM -0500, Jacques Gelinas wrote:
   A small bugfix for the debian newvserver script:
  
  Can't find this code in my own newvserver script. I guess the debian package
  provides another utility called newvserver.sh. Right ?
 
 That is correct. The debian package has a debian-specific newvserver script.
 (the original one is included in the package as newrpmvserver).

This is not appropriate. While the original newvserver can create 
vserver from CDs, it is also useful to clone and reconfigure vservers
as well.

If the script /usr/lib/vserver/distrib-info was completed for DEB, then all
the tools would be able to perform unification and vserver cloning for
debian.

Further, newvserver could be enhance to create debian install from scratch.
For example, it could setup the configuration and call your newvserver.sh
script to complete the installation.

Right ?

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Re: [Vserver] debian diffs for vserver 0.29 tools anyone?

2003-12-15 Thread Jacques Gelinas
On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 20:49:02 -0500, Ivo De Decker wrote
 On Fri, Dec 12, 2003 at 09:36:23PM +0100, Ola Lundqvist wrote:
  New vserver-0.29 packages will be available for unstable now
  on http://debian.opal.dhs.org/
  
  Also uploaded to unstable since a few seconds.
 
 A small bugfix for the debian newvserver script:

Can't find this code in my own newvserver script. I guess the debian package
provides another utility called newvserver.sh. Right ?

 When newvserver creates a config file for the vserver, IPROOTDEV is set to
 eth0, even if another interface is specified.
 
 Trivial patch:
 
 --- newvserver.sh.orig2003-12-13 20:40:19.0 +0100
 +++ newvserver.sh 2003-12-13 20:40:56.0 +0100
 @@ -501,7 +501,7 @@
  cat  EOF  /etc/vservers/$VHOST.conf
  S_HOSTNAME=$VHOST
  IPROOT=$IP
 -IPROOTDEV=eth0
 +IPROOTDEV=$INTERFACE
  ONBOOT=yes
  S_NICE=
  S_FLAGS=lock nproc$FAKEINIT
 
 
 Greetings,
 
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[Vserver] addendum to vserver 0.29 change log

2003-12-11 Thread Jacques Gelinas
I had forgotten one item, important in the change log. Here it is



  2.1.  v_xxx services bound to 127.0.0.1

  V_xxx services (sshd, ...) are special services used in the root
  server to limit its IP scope to some IPs. This way, vservers are free
  to use the other IPs of the machine. In previous release, all v_xxx
  services were bound to eth0 only. It was possible to override this
  using a corresponding file /etc/vservices/xxx.conf with a line like:



   IP=ip1 ip2



  It turns out to be more practical to bind services to 127.0.0.1 and
  eth0.  X11 forwarding in sshd is working better like this. So now, all
  v_xxx services are bound to 127.0.0.1 and eth0, unless overridden by
  the /etc/vservices/xxx.conf


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re: [Vserver] vrpm code questions

2003-11-26 Thread Jacques Gelinas
On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 14:34:03 -0500, Bert De Vuyst wrote
 
 Hello,
 
 After looking at the code of tool vrpm (part of vserver and util-vserver), I 
 have some questions.
 
 1. The location of /vservers is hardcoded in this tool.
 I think it's at better idea use the option VSERVERS_ROOT=/vservers in this 
 script and to use $VSERVERS_ROOT inside the script.
 In case of the vserver package by Jacques, the next lines
   if [ -f /etc/vservers.conf ] ; then
 source /etc/vservers.conf
   fi
 would be a usefull idea to set the $VSERVERS_ROOT.

I will fix that

 2. In case the vserver is not running, the script starts a new security 
 context. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it's not a good idea.
 Why? Some people have a backup of there vservers on a spare machine in case 
 there serverhardware fails. If they run vrpm on the spare machine, vrpm will 
 startup the vservers to update the packages. This can cause a problem as the 
 IP-address of the vserver is in use by the vserver running on the master 
 server, and you end up running 2 vservers using the same IP-address.
 I think it would be beter to use chroot to run rpm in case the vserver is 
 down.

Starting a new security context does not assign IPs. So it has no impact on
other copies of the vserver running elsewhere.

The idea of using a security context is to make sure that scripts executed
during the RPM update can't access or break the root server.
 
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[Vserver] re: Alert! --secure broken in 0.27 + vs1.1.5

2003-11-26 Thread Jacques Gelinas
On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:36:01 -0500, Herbert Poetzl wrote
 
 Hi Jack!
 
 I get this on Linux version 2.4.22-vs1.1.5
 with vserver-0.27
 
 # chcontext --secure --ctx 100 grep -i cap /proc/self/status 
 New security context is 100
 CapInh:   
 CapPrm:   feff
 CapEff:   feff
 CapBset:  feff
 
 (which basically means, all except CAP_SETPCAP)

Ok, got it. I was passing 0 instead of -2 when lowering the capability ceiling.

0.28 will be released today.

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re: [Vserver] VServer IP Setup (A Journey with Bash)

2003-11-22 Thread Jacques Gelinas
 initialisation.
 
 4.2 From chbind
 
  a) Segmentation fault
  
 - you managed to call 'chbind --ip' please share 
   the knowledge how you did it?

I fixed chbind so it better checks its arguments. Will be in 0.28
 
 5. And the Future?
 
 5.1 Useful Enhancements
 
 - extend the script to actually understand
   /XX netmasks, and convert them for ifconfig

Done. Just in ifspec. No need to change the vserver script
 
 - add an option to display the actual ifconfig 
   statements and IPOPT lists
   (would avoid a lot of questions)

Done. I added the --verbose option to the /usr/sbin/vserver script
 
 - fix the ifspec bug, and do some sanity checks
   regarding netmasks and interfaces ...

done
 
 - add a 'cleanup' option to 'remove' the aliases
   and mounts done by an 'enter' on a stopped
   vserver.

This is always done. a vserver xxx stop always does this even if the vserver
is not running.
 
 [1] it could be useful to specify this on a 'profile'
 basis, this way, a test profile could leave out
 the network stuff ...

Such a profile could have a different set of IP or no IP at all then. Why nodev ?
 

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[Vserver] vserver -.27 change log

2003-11-22 Thread Jacques Gelinas

  vserver 0.27
  Change log


  1.  Enhancements


  1.1.  Install redhat 9 and fedora core 1 from CD

  The newvserver utility can now install a vserver from a RedHat 9 or
  Fedora core 1 first cdrom. As usual you can install a minimum vserver
  or the complete CD.


  1.2.  Support for vs1.1 kernels

  The new kernel with the virtual switch system call is now supported.
  You can using vserver 0.27 with vs-1.0 (aka ctx) and vs1.1 kernels.


  2.  Bug fixes


  2.1.  ULIMIT with -HS

  The configuration files created by vserver and newvserver now
  correctly use -HS instead -of -H to set the global ULIMIT settings.


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re: [Vserver] fedora core 1

2003-11-20 Thread Jacques Gelinas
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 04:48:02 -0500, Geoffrey D. Bennett wrote
 Hi there,
 
 Just wanted to report some success running Fedora Core 1 in a vserver
 (Red Hat 7.3 base) as well as share a problem I had and a script I
 wrote to make future FC1 vserver installs trivial (for me, at least).
 
 First the problem: the glibc that comes with FC1 didn't like running
 some programs (like RPM :( ) -- it failed with cannot enable
 executable stack as shared object requires.  I fixed the problem by
 rebuilding the glibc RPM with the glibc-execstack-disable patch (comes
 with the glibc RPM).

Odd

I am using few vservers with fedora core 1 and I am not seeing this problem.
(vserver 0.27 probably out tomorrow let you install fedora base vserver from
CD).

I have installed plenty of rpm using rpm and did not see this message.
This is with glibc-2.3.2-101, the i386 version.


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Re: [Vserver] possibility to get eth0:0 into vserver ?

2003-11-20 Thread Jacques Gelinas
On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:40:05 -0500, Rus Foster wrote
 
  hi,
 
  is it possible that i get a real eth0 device into my vserver ?
 
  at moment i have within a vserver:
 
  eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:0C:76:45:2B:4D
UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
RX packets:186757294 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:1 frame:0
TX packets:146945296 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:100
RX bytes:2816075333 (2.6 GiB)  TX bytes:2576350543 (2.3 GiB)
Interrupt:10
 
  But because of this software is commercial, the software wants a binding to
  eth0:0 to communicate with the company server of confixx -and doesn`t found
  such a device in the vserver.
 
 
 Name the vserver 0. Should work

A vserver sees all devices corresponding to the IPs it is using. One solution
(beside naming the vserver 0), is to

setup the IP aliases yourself on the host server
-Set IPROOT= to those IPs
-Unset IPROOTDEV so the vserver script won't try to
 setup the IP aliases.



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Re: [Vserver] fedora core 1

2003-11-20 Thread Jacques Gelinas
On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:09:03 -0500, Herbert Poetzl wrote
 On Thu, Nov 20, 2003 at 12:51:57PM -0500, Jacques Gelinas wrote:
  On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 04:48:02 -0500, Geoffrey D. Bennett wrote
   Hi there,
 
 Hi Geoffrey!
 
   Just wanted to report some success running Fedora Core 1 in a vserver
   (Red Hat 7.3 base) as well as share a problem I had and a script I
   wrote to make future FC1 vserver installs trivial (for me, at least).
   
   First the problem: the glibc that comes with FC1 didn't like running
   some programs (like RPM :( ) -- it failed with cannot enable
   executable stack as shared object requires.  I fixed the problem by
   rebuilding the glibc RPM with the glibc-execstack-disable patch (comes
   with the glibc RPM).
 
 I heard from Rik (v. Riel) that one of RedHat's 
 aims (or requirements) is that Fedora works with
 vanilla kernels (correct me if I've got it wrong)
 so any problem with vanilla 2.4.xx can be considered
 a Fedora bug, and should be reported ...

Good thing. Odd. I finally withness this problem on my build machine running
a 2.2 kernel and hosting various chrooted build environment.

On my notebook with 2.4.22vs1.00, fedora1 seems to work well as a vserver
(including rpmbuild)

  Odd
  
  I am using few vservers with fedora core 1 and I am not seeing this problem.
  (vserver 0.27 probably out tomorrow let you install fedora base vserver from
  CD).
 
 Hi Jack!
 
 what interface will those 0.27er tools support?
 stable or development?

Both.


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RE: [Vserver] Vserver rpm errors

2003-11-12 Thread Jacques Gelinas
On Fri, 7 Nov 2003 06:47:04 -0500, Charles Dale wrote
 Seeing as they work on with RPM 4.0 but not with 4.2 I assume it is some bug
 in the version of RPM used to build them. Of all the similar failures I
 found on Google, none of them required updating the client RPM, just that
 the packages would be rebuilt (probably with an updated RPM).
 
 That doesn't make things much clearer... Maybe Jack can tell us which rpm
 he's using.

I am using an RPM from rh7 and in general, it installs everywhere. I am using
that for many projects.

On which distro are you seeing this problem ?

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Re: [Vserver] An interesting problem/bug with IP aliases

2003-11-03 Thread Jacques Gelinas
On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 10:05:02 -0500, Chris Wright wrote
 * Jacques Gelinas ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
  The ip command uses the same kernel interface as ifconfig to setup IP aliases.
  The SECONDARY flag can't be touched using the kernel interface.
  So the command will produce the same problem.
  
  While the ip command do more, especially on the routing side, it does the
  same thing on the IP aliases side.
 
 This isn't actually the case.  The difference is how you can set the
 secondary flag, etc.  Try this:
 
 # ip addr add 192.168.1.0/24 dev eth0
 # ip addr add 192.168.1.1 dev eth0
 # ip addr add 192.168.1.2 dev eth0
 # ip addr list
 
 now you have two useable aliaes .1 and .2 (try pinging them from another
 machine).  With .1 being the first one you set up (take note of the
 subnets that they are assigned to).

Yes I am taking note. Both (1.2 and 1.1) end up on /32. I am getting the same
result with ifconfig. They end up on different networks.


$ /sbin/ip addr add 192.168.0.0/24 dev eth0
$ /sbin/ip addr add 192.168.0.1 dev eth0
$ /sbin/ip addr add 192.168.0.2 dev eth0
$ /sbin/ip addr list


inet 192.168.0.0/24 scope global eth0
inet 192.168.0.1/32 scope global eth0
inet 192.168.0.2/32 scope global eth0

Now if I do

$ /sbin/ip addr add 192.168.0.0/24 dev eth0
$ /sbin/ip addr add 192.168.0.1/24 dev eth0
$ /sbin/ip addr add 192.168.0.2/24 dev eth0
$ /sbin/ip addr list

inet 192.168.0.0/24 scope global eth0
inet 192.168.0.1/24 scope global secondary eth0
inet 192.168.0.2/24 scope global secondary eth0

Now if I delete 192.168.0.0, I am loosing then all.

-

I have review this problem. I realise now why most people have not experienced
this problem. If you set an IP alias (using whatever tool) on eth0, using the same
network as currently defined on eth0, then the aliases become all secondary
and you loose the aliases definition only if you unconfigure eth0, which you seldom
do.

We have withness this problem because we generally use private networks inside
a host server and all the vservers are hook to this network. We do this to
achieve physical network failover. All our server have 2 nics and using gated
the internal network used by the vservers is advertised on both nics.

Using the ip addr add 192.168.0.0/24 dev eth0 above should cure our own
problem. I realise this is not a typical setup.


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