Re: [Vserver] vmware in vserver?

2006-09-28 Thread Marcus Mülbüsch

John Alberts schrieb:

true.  I guess there is no point in running vmware in a guest os.


Except a vserver-guest is much more easy to make a copy of, diddle with 
updates, configs and whatever - and so have a copy available that can be 
started within a few seconds when you misconfigure something.


And you can move it much more easily to another physical machine.

I wouldn't try to combine vmware in a vserver guest, though. Much too 
fiddly.

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RE: [Vserver] vmware in vserver?

2006-09-28 Thread ehab heikal
But you can run vserver in a vmware linux setup.

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Is it possible to run vmware-server in a vserver guest?
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Re: [Vserver] vmware in vserver?

2006-09-28 Thread John Alberts

I was curious about running vmware in a guest so that I could run an
instance of windows on my linux box.  That's the only thing I wish
vserver could do is let me run windows as a guest os.
Please don't start flaming with Why would you use WINDOZE anyway?.
Sometimes it's necessary, especially for Windows admins like myself.
:)

Thanks for everyones input.


On 9/28/06, ehab heikal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

But you can run vserver in a vmware linux setup.

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Re: [Vserver] vmware in vserver?

2006-09-28 Thread Herbert Poetzl
On Thu, Sep 28, 2006 at 08:48:04AM -0500, John Alberts wrote:
 I was curious about running vmware in a guest so that I could run an
 instance of windows on my linux box.  That's the only thing I wish
 vserver could do is let me run windows as a guest os.

well, no problem, get the soruces and adjust it so
that windows runs on a linux kernel, we'll do the
rest then to allow for installing windows guests :)

best,
Herbert

 Please don't start flaming with Why would you use WINDOZE anyway?.
 Sometimes it's necessary, especially for Windows admins like myself.
 :)
 
 Thanks for everyones input.
 
 
 On 9/28/06, ehab heikal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 But you can run vserver in a vmware linux setup.
 
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Re: [Vserver] vmware in vserver?

2006-09-28 Thread Michael S. Zick
On Thu September 28 2006 08:48, John Alberts wrote:
 I was curious about running vmware in a guest so that I could run an
 instance of windows on my linux box.  That's the only thing I wish
 vserver could do is let me run windows as a guest os.


You might be spinning your wheels on that - many win-apps will detect
vmware and refuse to run - even Windows virus applications will usually
detect vmware and go into hiding.

You might have better luck running Wine -
http://www.winehq.com/

If you also have a licensed copy of the M$ dlls - you can set Wine
to pick and choose between the M$ dlls and the ones provided with Wine.

 Please don't start flaming with Why would you use WINDOZE anyway?.
 Sometimes it's necessary, especially for Windows admins like myself.
 :)
 
 Thanks for everyones input.
 

Mike
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Re: [Vserver] vmware in vserver?

2006-09-28 Thread Tom Laermans
 
 You might be spinning your wheels on that - many win-apps will detect
 vmware and refuse to run - even Windows virus applications will usually
 detect vmware and go into hiding.

Going way off-topic here, but I've never ever had any windows app refuse to
run because it was running inside a vmware instance.

Tom
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Re: [Vserver] vmware in vserver?

2006-09-28 Thread bognár attila






  
You might be spinning your wheels on that - many win-apps will detect
vmware and refuse to run - even Windows virus applications will usually
detect vmware and go into hiding.

  
  
Going way off-topic here, but I've never ever had any windows app refuse to
run because it was running inside a vmware instance.
  


There is at least one: VMware products :-) - you cannot start a vm
inside a vm.
But I would be curious too what others are there.

attila



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Re: [Vserver] vmware in vserver?

2006-09-27 Thread Bruno
On Wednesday 27 September 2006 20:01, John Alberts wrote:
 Is it possible to run vmware-server in a vserver guest?

That depends very much on how much you allow to your guest (Capabilities).
As VMWare uses a kernel module it makes no sense to try to run VMWare within a 
VServer guest. VMWare can escape it's guest context through the kernel 
modules.

Bruno
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Re: [Vserver] vmware in vserver?

2006-09-27 Thread John Alberts

true.  I guess there is no point in running vmware in a guest os.


On 9/27/06, Bruno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Wednesday 27 September 2006 20:01, John Alberts wrote:
 Is it possible to run vmware-server in a vserver guest?

That depends very much on how much you allow to your guest (Capabilities).
As VMWare uses a kernel module it makes no sense to try to run VMWare within a
VServer guest. VMWare can escape it's guest context through the kernel
modules.

Bruno
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