Re: From the Washington Post!

[Shay Telfer]

Since Linux is an "optional" piece of software (i.e. you have to
consciously have it installed on your computer), people are also more
likely to be "aware" of Linux as a piece of software. You could
therefore give some concessions to Windows. However, that does not
change the fact that the nature of software maintenance usually
differs between the two platforms.


Also

* Linux users tend to be technically competent (as they have to have 
some degree of technical competence to install Linux in the first 
place), and have some idea how to detect and deal with infections or 
suspicious incoming e-mail. Windows users tend to be 'Mom and Pop', 
who probably won't even keep their machine updated.


* Mac OS X runs on a different processor, so the script kiddies would 
have to port the exploits to PowerPC, and virus toolkits would have 
to be redeveloped. And the virus writer would have to have access to 
a Mac, machines they usually either despise, or complain are too 
expensive :)


* Mac OS X doesn't have Visual Basic installed by default, unless you 
happen to have MS Office. Mac users tend to use multiple applications 
from different vendors, whereas the majority of Windows users are 
running apps from Microsoft (including the operating system). 
Ironically Microsoft's system integration makes things easier for the 
virus writers.


* Mac OS X's unix underpinnings tend to limit the damage a virus can 
do to one user's account (well, unless they manage to hit a root 
exploit).


* Virus writers seeking their fame would rather exploit and dominate 
the masses of Windows users than attack the 'miniscule' percentage of 
the market that Mac users represent.


Have fun,
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Re: From the Washington Post!

[James Devenish]

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
on Wed, Feb 11, 2004 at 09:29:43PM +0800, James Devenish wrote:
> Mac OS X already /shares/ certain platform-independent software
> vulnerabilities with Linux

Apologies: that statement was inaccurate. I should have said
"Linux-based systems".

Re: From the Washington Post!

[James Devenish]

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
on Wed, Feb 11, 2004 at 06:24:04PM +0800, Kathy Quinlan wrote:
> But in all reality if Mac's were more common, we would see just as many
> security holes, they exist, just we do not have a large enough user base
> to make us a target YET.

I personally think this is a myth -- people say the same things about
Linux. 

When people ask "how come we think that these vulnerabilities are always
'Windows problems'", people says things like "it's because crackers only
bother to attack the major OS (Windows)" (or even "Windows has more
security holes because it's used more often" -- a peculiar leap of non-
logic). This is the "security through obscurity" rationalisation. It is
clearly false: The fact is that lots of large security holes /do/ exist
in Linux, people /do/ bother to write code that exploits them, and
people /do/ bother to break into Linux systems. Linux systems are
continually being scanned, and attempts are continually being made to
break into them. There are exploits for BSDs, too.

But the difference between Windows and Linux (for example) is more than
just a numbers game: maintenance of the two systems is typically
different in regards to "patching". Typically, with Linux software,
security patches are small and self-contained. Usually, they address
specific flaws without modifying the documented functionality. Patches
can be installed quickly and with confidence. With Windows, people have
found that the security updates may be "large", have "unpredictable side
effects", or "modify" the existing behaviour. Also, patches for open
source software are often released rapidly (compared to months-long
delays you see with some closed-source operating systems).

Since Linux is an "optional" piece of software (i.e. you have to
consciously have it installed on your computer), people are also more
likely to be "aware" of Linux as a piece of software. You could
therefore give some concessions to Windows. However, that does not
change the fact that the nature of software maintenance usually
differs between the two platforms.

If we look at Mac OS X, we seem somewhat of a mixture of the above
styles. On one hand, Apple can release patches that replace the flawed
software without changing its behaviour. But, on the other hand, Mac OS
X is still immature in a number of ways and Apple can tend to
incorporate security updates into the "next version" -- this means that
instead of "patching" for security, we are expected to "upgrade" for
features. This can bring about the unexpected oddities that we hear
about on this list. Also, Apple is likely to bundle a number of patches
into a larger "multi-bug" security update, thus delaying the process.
So...large monolithic downloads and side effects are unfortunately
common with Mac OS X. Another problem is that Apple doesn't want to let
people use "local mirrors" of its software updates. So, Mac OS X
incorporates "the best" and "the worst" at the same time. However, it is
still much easier to maintain than some other commercial UNIX OSs!

In fairness to your original comment: yes, we do have some benefit
through a small user base and that is not a myth. And it is possibly
more to do with hardware than software: Mac OS X already /shares/
certain platform-independent software vulnerabilities with Linux, but
PowerPC-based machines are less likely to suffer than Intel-based
machines. You can broadly categorise a lot of exploits as "denial of
service", "escalated privileges" or "arbitrary code execution". Although
denial-of-service attacks are embarrassing and obstructive, it is the
other two categories that can lead to lasting damage or loss of privacy.
Fortunately, arbitrary-code attacks and escalated privilege attacks
often rely on hardware-specific tinkering or "local user" access -- and
Mac OS X still 'wins' on the tenuous basis of hardware obscurity.

PB Power Supply

[Paul Troester]

Hi guys,

Something to think about.

Back in 1988, I bought an old 2 drive SE, then in 1989, I 
came to Australia and Naturally I brought my SE with me. I 
looked at the back of the machine and there was a power 
tag, which told me that the SE was usable both with 
110V/60Hz 240v/50Hz, and since my power cord came out of 
the back of my SE, and after many hours of consideration I 
figured out that all I needed to do was change my power 
cord. And every Mac since has had the same type of power 
supply.


Have a good day 


Born to Fish, Forced to Work.

Re: DUH!!!opening CD tray without eject button (Scroll Wheel Too)

[Ryan Schotte]

> >> Anyone know if you can scroll through your open tabs 'CMD+TAB'
> >style?
> >
> >You can in Safari 1.2
> 
> How's it done, cmd+tab?
> 
> Im at work so I cant try it...

cmd+shift+leftarrow and cmd+shift+rightarrow

Has worked since tabbed browsing was introduced to Safari i
think.

I'm annoyed, I love tabs, always use them, but love exposé on
the scroll-click... i need a mouse with two scroll wheels!

Ryan

RE: From the Washington Post!

[Kathy Quinlan]

This is why A I run my updater on all windoze machines, B use a FreeBSD
firewall (takes longer to hack and I get warnings), C I am trying to
migrate to FreeBSD as a desktop :o)

But in all reality if Mac's were more common, we would see just as many
security holes, they exist, just we do not have a large enough user base
to make us a target YET.

I read an article a while back, about needing a license to drive a car,
a license to own a dog etc, but no license to operate a computer :o( if
this was to happen or mandatory computer security training / updates,
then we would not have the problems we have today. As an example, I
visited a customer today, single PC on the net, they did not have a
virus scanner, the system was still at the level of patch and SP it was
installed as (no patches or service packs). And they wondered why their
machine was so slow, it had over 100 viri. In part I blame the people
who sell computers, how much time and effort does it take to install a
free viri scanner ? Probably an extra 10 minutes and most of that is
just the machine sitting there doing its thing. Companies like AVG will
give you a copy of the latest scanner and db, and all you as a tech need
to do is register the client. 


Regards,

Kat.

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> Talking about MyDoom virus.
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RE: Installing Panther

[Paul Kitchener]

>When I run the installer it goes through the initial stuff and then
>tells me
>that there is a problem with my disk.

If it gives a 'Skip and Ignore' or the like after checking your CD
you could proceed as I do, without any probs. 
Although you may want to cross your fingers ;-)

Good Luck

Paul

Re: DUH!!!opening CD tray without eject button (Scroll Wheel Too)

[Paul Kitchener]

>> Anyone know if you can scroll through your open tabs 'CMD+TAB'
>style?
>
>You can in Safari 1.2

How's it done, cmd+tab?

Im at work so I cant try it...

Paul

Re: ADSL Modem Recommendations?

[Craig Ringer]

On Wed, 2004-02-11 at 15:14, Shay Telfer wrote:
> Yes. USB is designed for low bandwidth peripherals like keyboards and 
> mice (despite what Intel's marketing people tell you), Ethernet is 
> designed for networking.

Also, by using an ethernet based ADSL modem you sidestep all sorts of
potential driver nasties. This was discussed just a little while ago.

Craig Ringer

Re: quick laptop question

[Lindsay Adams]

hi to the interested
Have been the victim of Toshiba quality for the past 4 years.  Work for 
Govt dept that seems to have a love affair with the company.  Sadly the 
satelitte series has been a huge disappointment.  Recurrent similiar 
failures involving video power supplies, and other varied technical 
short comings requiring the machines to be shipped back to Sydney for 
repair as the local agents not authorised by Toshiba to do repairs.


 Okay if you live over east but when you live in the west it means 
being without your machine for 2 to 3 weeks. ( Broome to Perth to 
Sydney to Perth to Broome) as Toshiba will not receive goods or send 
goods directly to the client.  Indeed with 2 of the machines they 
travelled to Sydney twice to have the same problem fixed.  can't 
comment on the 2003 or 04 versions as we won't be touching Toshiba 
again.


So for after sales service I would give Toshiba a big fat Egg.

And for quality of product regardless of price the old adage is true 
you get what you pay for (almost)  ;o).

 End of Spleen venting..
Lindsay





On Tuesday, February 10, 2004, at 10:56 AM, Mark Secker wrote:




I believe Toshiba is now making a 17" notebook - Satellite P20. I
haven't
really compared the specs to the Mac but I know it doesn't ship with




I will stress to the customer that only quality PC laptop
manufacturers can be compared with apples.
Apples and oranges you see.




and unfortunately  I don't consider Toshiba's to be automatically 
considered as a "quality PC laptop manufacturer" some models yes some 
models no... buy with caution and only after a hands on


and remember _if_  a key point is that prospective buyer wants to 
transport it frequently the 17" models  of all brands may fail due to 
weight. I haven't seen/picked up Sony's but the Toshiba is SERIOUSLY 
HEAVY!


for this reason my next laptop will be a 12" iBook or PowerBook

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Re: random reboots

[Craig Ringer]

On Wed, 2004-02-11 at 15:00, Kay, Richard wrote:
>  A kernel panic can be caused by damaged or incompatible software or, more 
> rarely, damaged or incompatible hardware'.

Interesting... in my experience with other UNIX-like OSes (Linux and
OpenServer) I'd say panics were _most_ _often_ caused by bad hardware.
Then again, I guess OSX must contend with unknown and possibly really
bad drivers being loaded.

Craig Ringer

Re: SuperDrive vs DVD-R 4x media...

[Mark Secker]

Note that DVD's spin MUCH MUCH faster than CD's even at "one speed" 
they are spinning - um (off the top of my head - tech check please!) 
4 to 6  times faster than a CD so  2x DVDR burn the disk is actually 
spinning at  about the same speed  as 8 or 12 x CDR burn.


the drive it's self will only burn at it's manufactured burn speed 
(unless apple throtles them back which I don't think has been 
mentioned in any forum)


much like using high speed CD's (52x) in an old  4x speed CD burner 
you will never burn faster than the the cd burners 4 speed maximum.


you buy high speed media to burn safely in a higher speed drive 
rather than to up your burn speed in a slower drive.


the main issue with the higher speed drives is that once a disk 
starts spinning at the high speeds the media can start to "flutter" 
if it's not designed to spin at the higher speeds slot loading drives 
tend to be more prone to this than tray loading drives.


putting older/cheaper/lower quality disks in to a high speed burner 
will risk damaging the media and possibly the drive -  imagine a 
child's toy spinning top that has lost equilibrium or using an ice 
cream container lid as a frissbie (sp?)  the disk  actually warps and 
distorts inside the drive unit.
I used some old 4 speed CD disks in an external  52 speed burner and 
while I told it to burn it at only 4 speed the drive its self span 
the disk up to near full speed before throttling back and in each and 
every case  the disk produced an awful clattering noise and the disk 
was spat out after a few seconds of burn time with "media errors" and 
massive scratches  around the surfaces (both sides)




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Re: 12" powerbook adaptor

[Greg Hosking]

while on this subject, it there a third party (read: cheaper) power 
supply available to suit these machines (15" powerbook G4)?



On Wednesday, February 11, 2004, at 04:00  PM, Adam Yap wrote:


On 11/02/2004, at 3:47 PM, Robert Howells wrote:



On Wednesday, February 11, 2004, at 03:25  PM, Adam Yap wrote:


Andy,

If you have the US (or UK) power adaptor you can just buy a simple 
figure 8 power cable (try Bunnings or Jaycar) and plug that into it.




WAIT UP !
UK is probably ok,

but US has only 110 Voltage power.

You need to be real sure you have a multi voltage Plug PAK
BEFORE  you plug a US device into AUS Power  ( 240 
Volts )

Bob

I'm not sure about yours but my ibook g4, powerbook 15" both have 
power adaptrs (the white oblongy ones) which take 100-240V.


Adam


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Re: [OT] Big news for Star Wars fans!!!

[Stewart Woods]

On Wednesday, February 11, 2004, at 11:43  AM, Matthew Healey wrote:

This is true, however they will be the bastardized abominations that 
George calls the "special editions".


Han will always have shot first  :-)

Re: 12" powerbook adaptor

[Adam Yap]

On 11/02/2004, at 3:47 PM, Robert Howells wrote:



On Wednesday, February 11, 2004, at 03:25  PM, Adam Yap wrote:


Andy,

If you have the US (or UK) power adaptor you can just buy a simple 
figure 8 power cable (try Bunnings or Jaycar) and plug that into it.




WAIT UP !
UK is probably ok,

but US has only 110 Voltage power.

You need to be real sure you have a multi voltage Plug PAK
BEFORE  you plug a US device into AUS Power  ( 240 
Volts )

Bob

I'm not sure about yours but my ibook g4, powerbook 15" both have power 
adaptrs (the white oblongy ones) which take 100-240V.


Adam

Re: 12" powerbook adaptor

[Robert Howells]

On Wednesday, February 11, 2004, at 03:25  PM, Adam Yap wrote:


Andy,

If you have the US (or UK) power adaptor you can just buy a simple 
figure 8 power cable (try Bunnings or Jaycar) and plug that into it.




WAIT UP !
UK is probably ok,

but US has only 110 Voltage power.

You need to be real sure you have a multi voltage Plug PAK
BEFORE  you plug a US device into AUS Power  ( 240 
Volts )

Bob

Re: 12" powerbook adaptor

[Adam Yap]

Andy,

If you have the US (or UK) power adaptor you can just buy a simple 
figure 8 power cable (try Bunnings or Jaycar) and plug that into it.


Adam

On 11/02/2004, at 3:00 PM, andy baker wrote:

I have a 12' powerbook and need to get an australian power adapter for 
it. Any ideas of cost and where to get one?


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Re: SuperDrive vs DVD-R 4x media...

[James / Hans Kunz]

my 17" powerbook has a superdrive aswell (brand: matshita) and does 
only 1x or 2x dvd burn speed, the drive must be designed to run on the 
4x, if i use a 4x dvd-r then i only can burn it @ 2x, i trialled 
"general" & "tdk" (appleshop / dick smith) disks, both seems to be fine 
@ 2xJames


On 10/02/2004, at 21:27, Mark Heeler wrote:


Superdrive vs. DVD-R 4x media
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I have a eMac (running 10.3.2) with a Superdrive. This is a factory 
DVR-104 listing the device revision as A227.


Using Apple DVD-R 4x media, I can only seem to have the option to burn 
at 1x which seems a little strange.


There is no firmware update available unlike some early flat panel 
iMacs and others with the same drive (see below).


Anyone else have this issue or know what I can do to fix it ?

I know it isn't a critical problem but I could save some time waiting !

Regards

Mark

PS. There is a Tech Note 
(http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=86130) that includes 
the following info that states that
the eMac should be able to burn 4x media and that my device is "up to 
date" !


(here is a bit of the note...)

How can I tell if I need this update?

If you have an iMac (17-inch Flat Panel), eMac with SuperDrive, Power 
Mac G4 (Mirrored Drive Doors) with SuperDrive, or PowerBook G4 
(1GHz/867MHz) with SuperDrive you do not need this update. Your 
computer's SuperDrive is already compatible with high-speed media. 
Computers that do not have a SuperDrive do not need this update.


Follow these steps to determine if your computer's SuperDrive needs to 
be updated:


  1. Choose Apple System Profiler from the Apple menu (Mac OS 9), 
or open it from the Utilities folder (Applications/Utilities) in Mac 
OS X.
  2. Click the Devices and Volumes tab. Locate the CD-RW/DVD-R 
device listing.
3. Click the disclosure triangle to the left of the device listing to 
get more information.


* If the Vendor Identification field names a manufacturer other 
than Pioneer, you don't need this update.
* If the Vendor Identification field names Pioneer as the 
manufacturer, your drive may need the update.
  o For drives with the Product Identification DVR-104, no 
update is required if the Device Revision number is A227 or higher.
o For drives with the Product Identification DVR-103, no update is 
required if the Device Revision number is 1.90 or higher.


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Re: ADSL Modem Recommendations?

[Shay Telfer]

I am assuming that ethernet is better than USB.  Is this correct?


Yes. USB is designed for low bandwidth peripherals like keyboards and 
mice (despite what Intel's marketing people tell you), Ethernet is 
designed for networking.


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Re: [OT] Big news for Star Wars fans!!!

[Rod Lavington]

On 11/2/04 2:20 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> (HINT: George didn't write the script for New Hope or Empire.
> 
> QUESTION: Then who did?
> 
> Cam
> 

Actually, George wrote and directed a New Hope, but only provided the
storyline for the second.  Empire was directed by Irvin Kershner, with the
script by Leigh Brackett and Lawrence Kasdan.  Most agree that Empire was
the best out of all 5 that have been made (you can see why!).  Return of the
'George' saw Lucas play a role in the script, and of course has been
Executive Producer of all 5.

I'd say by the time they started work in Return (around 1980), Hollywood
just started seeing the massive monetary benefits of merchandising.  And
they have been 'selling out' ever since.. :-)

(We better end this thread now before the list nanny gets angry :-)

Seeya

Rod!

Re: [OT] Big news for Star Wars fans!!!

[Matthew Healey]

On 11/02/2004, at 2:20 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


(HINT: George didn't write the script for New Hope or Empire.


QUESTION: Then who did?


hang on... got my facts a bit wrong

George wrote and directed New Hope. Gary Kurtz produced it.

Leigh Bracket & Larry Kasdan wrote Empire, Irvin Kershner directed it. 
Gary Kurtz produced it.


Larry Kasdan & George wrote Jedi. Richard Marquand directed it. Howard 
Kazanjian produced it.


Gary Kurtz parted with George after Empire. Had Gary gotten is way with 
Jedi, there would have been no second death star, no ewoks and Lando 
would have died in the beginning. Han Solo would have died in the end.


- Matt

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Re: Fwd: OS X - stability

[Mark Secker]

Kernel Panic" yeah  I've seen him a few times ... I belive he's a 
friend of that windows guy "General Error"


in all seriousness I've seen more than my fair share because, 
usually, by the time a mac gets to me it's known to have a problem 
(usually  user has tried to remove or install wrong pieces of 
software or the machine has faulty/loose memory). However on my two 
day to day macs I've only seen them a few times in the last year. 
Maybe 5 times max consider this is on two separate computers 1 runs 
24/7 and only gets rebooted when an upgrade or an installer says so 
and the other runs  _AT_LEAST_  6 hours a day every day. so that 
comes to less than  1 kernel panic per say 5 months.


further more given that at   once this was induced deliberately by 
using a software I'd been told would cause this problem  the 
stability is quite high,  certainly right up there with our Win2000 
boxes.


Some individual applications quit with sometimes alarming regularity 
(notably I.E. and the old iMovie) but the main productivity one are 
remarkably stable (MS Office, VPC, Safari, Go-Live, Eudora etc).


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Re: video conversion

[cameronm]

On Wed, 11 Feb 2004, BART RAFFAELE wrote:
> 
> Can you convert windows media video file to a quick time mpeg.

Almost certainly.

> And if so whats out there to do it.

Try ffmpegx:
http://homepage.mac.com/major4/

Cam

Re: [OT] Big news for Star Wars fans!!!

[cameronm]

> (HINT: George didn't write the script for New Hope or Empire.

QUESTION: Then who did?

Cam

From the Washington Post!

[Matthew Healey]

Talking about MyDoom virus.

" Windows XP on the Internet amounts to a car parked in a bad part of
town, with the doors unlocked, the key in the ignition and a Post-It
note on the dashboard saying, "Please don't steal this.""

- Matt

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Re: [OT] Big news for Star Wars fans!!!

[Adam Hewitt]

On 11/02/2004, at 11:43 AM, Matthew Healey wrote:

Or possibly the CBS Special Edition where Leia's boob falls out of 
that metal bikini in Jedi). But he isn't going to do that, so he isn't 
going to get my money.




It wasn't actually Leia's boob, it was one of the alien dancers with 
the grey floppy pointy heads and it falls out when Jabba opens the pit 
and feeds her to that giant creature thingy..I remember rewinding that 
bit a million times when I was 5




Adam.

Re: [OT] Big news for Star Wars fans!!!

[Matthew Healey]

On 11/02/2004, at 7:12 AM, Rod Lavington wrote:


Hi All!

I am sorry for the OT post, but I am sure there is a large majority of 
Star

Wars fans on this list!

Anyway, the Star Wars trilogy (IV, V, VI) are finally coming to DVD.  4
DVDs, with an extra dvd full of docos and other extras.

Due for release at the end of September in the US.




This is true, however they will be the bastardized abominations that 
George calls the "special editions". This is a man who said Casablanca 
shouldn't be colorized to protect cinema history, and then proceeded to 
rape Ep 4,5 and 6. If he wants my money, he is going to have to release 
the ORIGINAL theatrical versions, untouched by CG artists. (Or possibly 
the CBS Special Edition where Leia's boob falls out of that metal 
bikini in Jedi). But he isn't going to do that, so he isn't going to 
get my money.


On a related note, Indiana Jones 4 has been delayed due to script 
issues. Steven Spielberg and Harrison Ford both love the script. George 
Lucas doesn't. Out of those three, I wonder which two would have a 
better idea as to what constitutes a good script. (HINT: George didn't 
write the script for New Hope or Empire. He did for Jedi though, and he 
gave us Ewoks.)


If George Lucas got 10 bucks every time someone wanted to kick his 
butt, he would have more money than the earth could hold.




- Matt

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iBook Logic Board Replacement

[Kay, Richard]

Looks like my AppleCare extended warranty just paid for itself.

iBook less than 2 years old.

Logic board Replacement With AppleCare = $0

Logic board Replacement Without AppleCare = $2340

R.K.

OT: critical Windows flaw uncovered

[Mike O'Grady]

http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,8650397%255E15306,00.html

Installing Panther

[Greg Pennefather]

Dear All

I am looking for some advice on installing Panther on my TiPB G4 550.  I am
currently using 10.2.8.

When I run the installer it goes through the initial stuff and then tells me
that there is a problem with my disk.  Disk utility can't repair it so I
can't install.

Can I use Diskwarrior 2.1.1 to repair my HD or do I need to use v3?  Is
there any other way of preparing the disk for Panther other than
reformatting?

TIA

Cheers

Greg

RE: DUH!!!opening CD tray without eject button (Scroll Wheel Too)

[Steve Fellows]

And to "scroll" through your tabs

cmd-shift-left or right arrow

sTEVE

-Original Message-
From: Peter Hinchliffe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, 11 February 2004 8:44 AM
To: WAMUG Mailing List
Subject: Re: DUH!!!opening CD tray without eject button (Scroll Wheel
Too)



On 10/02/2004, at 9:30 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> On 10/02/2004, at 1:15 PM, Mark Secker wrote:
>
>> f12 key (works on iMac but not on tower)...  so ... the help menu can 
>> be useful sometimes
>
> F12 works on my B&W G3 under 10.X too
>
> While we are on little tricks.
> I discovered that if you use the scroll wheel to click a hypelink 
> while in Safari it loads it into a new tab, now Im even lazier!

This is if you haven't already set up the middle button in Exposé to 
emulate F9   :-)
>
> Anyone know if you can scroll through your open tabs 'CMD+TAB' style?

You can in Safari 1.2


-- 
Peter Hinchliffe
Apwin Computer ServicesFileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
Perth,  
Western Australia   Phone (618) 9332 6482Fax (618) 9332 0913

Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to.


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Hard drive drivers in OSX ??

[Robert Howells]

Good Morning,

in OS9 and earlier it is possible to update the HD drivers.

In OSX with Classic we use the OS9 drivers to setup the drive.  

Can anybody tell me what happens with pure OSX , please ?

Thanks

Bob

video conversion

[BART RAFFAELE]

Hi All

Can you convert windows media video file to a quick time mpeg.

And if so whats out there to do it.
thanks

Bart

Re: DUH!!!opening CD tray without eject button (Scroll Wheel Too)

[Peter Hinchliffe]

On 10/02/2004, at 9:30 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On 10/02/2004, at 1:15 PM, Mark Secker wrote:

f12 key (works on iMac but not on tower)...  so ... the help menu can 
be useful sometimes


F12 works on my B&W G3 under 10.X too

While we are on little tricks.
I discovered that if you use the scroll wheel to click a hypelink 
while in Safari it loads it into a new tab, now Im even lazier!


This is if you haven't already set up the middle button in Exposé to 
emulate F9   :-)


Anyone know if you can scroll through your open tabs 'CMD+TAB' style?


You can in Safari 1.2


--
Peter Hinchliffe
Apwin Computer ServicesFileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
Perth,  
Western Australia   Phone (618) 9332 6482Fax (618) 9332 0913

   Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to.

Re: opening CD tray without eject button

[Peter Hinchliffe]

On 10/02/2004, at 1:12 PM, Mark Secker wrote:

is there anyway to get a G4 iMac to eject its EMPTY CD tray if the 
keyboard's eject button doesn't work... that is ... while it's running 
and without restarting the machine and holding down the mouse button.





This generally happens because the system thinks that some application 
is using resources on the CD, even though it really isn't!


1. Try quitting ALL open applications, and then see if the CD ejects. 
(Just having TextEdit running after having read and closed a text 
document on the CD can cause this - it's a bit of a pain).


2. Try logging out of your account. This will forces all running apps 
to quit, including the Finder, of course. Log back in, and your CD 
should eject fine.


--
Peter Hinchliffe
Apwin Computer ServicesFileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
Perth,  
Western Australia   Phone (618) 9332 6482Fax (618) 9332 0913

   Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to.

[OT] Big news for Star Wars fans!!!

[Rod Lavington]

Hi All!

I am sorry for the OT post, but I am sure there is a large majority of Star
Wars fans on this list!

Anyway, the Star Wars trilogy (IV, V, VI) are finally coming to DVD.  4
DVDs, with an extra dvd full of docos and other extras.

Due for release at the end of September in the US.

Seeya

Rod!