Inside the Mac Mini

[Brock Woolf]

Some shots of inside the Mac Mini

http://www.macnews.de/gallery/displayimage.php?album=16&pos=17

Brock Woolf
"Do not blame others for making you mad. Anger is a choice. Choose 
wisely".

Re: G4 to upgrade or not to upgrade, this is the question...still!

[Rob Findlay]

> From: Rod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 08:15:46 +0800
> To: WAMUG Mailing List 
> Subject: Re: G4 to upgrade or not to upgrade, this is the question...still!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 14/1/05 12:30 AM, "Rob Findlay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> From: Rod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 17:00:53 +0800
>>> To: WAMUG Mailing List 
>>> Subject: Re: G4 to upgrade or not to upgrade, this is the question...still!
>>> 
>>> Aaagghhh, the missing bit of information that suddenly changes the equation
>>> :-)  I am not sure whether ProTools will run *well* in Classic mode within
>>> OS X, so you may be going the CPU upgrade path.
>> 
>> Don't even think about it. There's no way this would work with ProTools.
>> 
> 
> CPU upgrade or running ProTools in Classic mode?  Not being a music guy, I
> wouldn't have a clue.  That's why I ask!
> 
Running ProTools in classic wouldn't work. CPU upgrade would be fine.
Rob

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Re: Quick "Hi" from the Applestore, Ginza

[Mark Secker]

... lets try again :) (don't hit send till finished "get it together 
get it together" [Azumanga Daioh fans will get that])


Actually have graphics tablet and Canon CP 300 printer I bought there 
that still even with price drops were less than half the prices of 
current Australian prices



Hi all

It's amazing here - ground floor and top floor are totally buzzing

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Re: Quick "Hi" from the Applestore, Ginza

[Mark Secker]

yeh it's pretty awesome isn't it :)

next stop Laox in Akihabara?  (this is the " outside bubble elevator 
computer shop") next to the train station but 5 months ago they were 
renovating so had moved a little east across Chuo Dori


Actually have


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Re: Quick "Hi" from the Applestore, Ginza

[Rod]

Arigato, Woz-san!

:-)

Seeya

Rod!


On 14/1/05 4:00 PM, "Warren Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> tokyo, japan
> 
> On Friday, January 14, 2005, at 03:42PM, Malcolm J McCallum
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>> Excuse my 'higorance' but where is Ginza -Down the road from the show?
>> Mac
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Re: Quick "Hi" from the Applestore, Ginza

[Warren Jones]

tokyo, japan

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wrote:

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Re: Quick "Hi" from the Applestore, Ginza

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Excuse my 'higorance' but where is Ginza -Down the road from the show?
Mac
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Hi all

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woz

Re: MS Word deleting

[Graham Green]

I am using MS Word X and have sent a client a file. When he opens it on his
PC it is fine but when he tries to insert words within a paragraph the new
words delete the existing words. Like a backwards deleting.

I have not struck this problem before. Is it a PC, Mac incompatibility? No
other client has reported this to me.

Any advice re settings either in his program or mine would be appreciated.

Lloyd


Sounds like OVERTYPING.

At bottom of the Word document page, there is the status bar, with 
page, section, line, col, etcetra. Scroll across until OVR show.  If 
OVR is selected, then the new  letter added deletes the one there.


For better explanation, go to  Word Help, and search OVERSTRIKE.

Good luck

Graham

MS Word deleting

[Lloyd White]

I am using MS Word X and have sent a client a file. When he opens it on his
PC it is fine but when he tries to insert words within a paragraph the new
words delete the existing words. Like a backwards deleting.

I have not struck this problem before. Is it a PC, Mac incompatibility? No
other client has reported this to me.

Any advice re settings either in his program or mine would be appreciated.

Lloyd 
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Re: Just as I thought...we're in a different world

[Malcolm J McCallum]

We really are the poor relations when you consider the shafting we are 
getting on .Mac. I think 'as a group' we at least make our feelings 
known to Steve.

Mac
On 14/01/2005, at 11:26 AM, Susan Hastings wrote:


Well done!


On 14/1/05 11:18 AM, "wyvern" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hey Matt! Any chance of a quick word with Steve while you're there?
:-)



Yeah Matt you could even sing him a song

well there's a little boy waiting at the counter of the apple store
he's been waiting down under, waiting all these years, do you ever 
ever

see him from up top
he gets pushed around, knocked to the ground
but he gets to his feet and says
What about me
it isn't fair
Iv'e got my Mac, now i want software
can't you see, i wanna live
but you don't see here where I live

feel free to improve the lyrics.*L*

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Re: Just as I thought...we're in a different world

[Daniel Kerr]

Agreed!! That was very well done!!
We all laughed here! :o)))


Kind Regards
Daniel

On 14/01/2005 11:26 AM, "Susan Hastings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Well done!
> 
> 
> On 14/1/05 11:18 AM, "wyvern" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>>> Hey Matt! Any chance of a quick word with Steve while you're there?
>>> :-)
>>> 
>> 
>> Yeah Matt you could even sing him a song
>> 
>> well there's a little boy waiting at the counter of the apple store
>> he's been waiting down under, waiting all these years, do you ever ever
>> see him from up top
>> he gets pushed around, knocked to the ground
>> but he gets to his feet and says
>> What about me
>> it isn't fair
>> Iv'e got my Mac, now i want software
>> can't you see, i wanna live
>> but you don't see here where I live
>> 
>> feel free to improve the lyrics.*L*
>> 
>> Yvonne
>> 
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Re: For Sale (with prices) Last items remaining!

[Daniel Kerr]

Yes I do!

I have an iMac 350MHz with an HP ethernet 4M Laser printer for sale.
Open to reasonable offers.

Let me know if you're interested.

Kind Regards
Daniel

On 14/01/2005 11:17 AM, "Chris Griffiths" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Does anyone have an old iMac for sale with a laser printer attached?
> Laser printer not essential.
> 
> Regards Chris Griffiths
> __
> V I S U A L  M A N A G E M E N T
> Suite 4, 316 Onslow Road, Shenton Park WA 6008
> Phone: (08) 9381 2299  Fax: (08) 9381 3366
> www.visualm.com.au
> On 14/01/2005, at 11:04 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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>> 
>> Hi, I'm being relocated and down to the last items for sale in Perth
>> before I move.  All reasonable offers considered.  Please email me at
>> .  Photos of items can be provided or,
>> if
>> you are in Perth, I can make arrangements for you to come and see the
>> items. Quick sale preferred.
>> 
>> ***
>> 
>> $500 ONO - Ipex IBM PC compatible. "Micro Office" form factor (i.e.
>> micro-ATX system box). Pentium 4 1.6 GHz. 768 MB RAM, 3.5" floppy disk,
>> 52x speed CD ROM, 40 GB hard disk, comes with license of Microsoft
>> Windows
>> XP Pro complete with original installation discs and serial number.
>> 
>> ***
>> 
>> $100 ONO - Canon FAX-B150 fax machine/telephone. Includes 1 new
>> (sealed)
>> BX-3 cartridge. Very good condition.
>> 
>> ***
>> 
>> $1 each - Quantity of grey plastic office document trays, stackable.
>> Good
>> condition.
>> 
>> ***
>> 
>> $20 ONO - Nokia 3310 GSM mobile phone in original packaging with
>> battery, AC charger and manual. This unit is in fair used condition.
>> 
>> ***
>> 
>> $10 ONO - Omni brand telephone caller ID unit, model CA-390, with
>> instruction booklet.
>> 
>> ***
>> 
>> FREE - Two (2) x 64 MB PC100 RAM DIMM, should suit B&W Power Macintosh
>> G3.
>> Stored in anti-static bag (of course).
>> 
>> ***
>> 
>> $30 ONO - Technics SL-XP300 portable CD player with AC adapter. Also
>> takes
>> 2 x AA cells. Good condition.
>> 
>> ***
>> 
>> $10 ea - RCA SystemLink Simple 3 and SystemLink 3 universal remote
>> controls. Hardly used. Manuals available on the Internet.
>> 
>> ***
>> 
>> $100 ONO - Canon AE-1 Program 35mm SLR (single lens reflex) film
>> camera with:
>> - Canon 28 mm f2.8 wide angle lens
>> - Canon 50 mm f1.8 lens
>> - Canon 35-70 mm f3.5 zoom lens
>> - Sigma 70-210 mm f4.5 zoom lens
>> - National PE-357S flash unit
>> All lenses have been protected throughout their life by UV filters.
>> This
>> camera was my pride and joy for many years and is still in good working
>> order. All items must be purchased as a set and I will include my handy
>> carry bag.
>> 
>> ***
>> 
>> Free - Power cables, various.
>> 
>> ***
>> 
>> Free - SCSI cables, various.
>> 
>> ***
>> 
>> $100 - Desk, white, with cable tidy underneath. Fair condition.
>> Dimensions (mm) 1600 (L) x 750 (W) x 740 (H).
>> 
>> ***
>> 
>> $50 - Dimplex electric column radiator (oil-filled), on castors.
>> Excellent condition. Dimensions (mm) 860 (L) x 130 (W) x 650 (H).
>> 
>> ***
>> 
>> $75 - Student desk, wood grain laminate, 4 drawers. Very good
>> condition.
>> Dimensions (mm) 1200 (L) x 600 (W) x 760 (H). Will include green
>> plastic
>> chair with metal legs.
>> 
>> ***
>> 
>> $30 - Men's racing bike, white, "Gordonson" brand. About 14 years old.
>> Cost > $300 new. Not heavily used and in fair condition for its age,
>> needs
>> some work - new tyres, service.  Minor rust.
>> 
>> ***
>> 
>> $10 - Gym bench. Fair condition. Suitable for sitting or lying on for
>> free
>> weight use.
>> 
>> 
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Re: Just as I thought...we're in a different world

[Susan Hastings]

Well done!


On 14/1/05 11:18 AM, "wyvern" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> Hey Matt! Any chance of a quick word with Steve while you're there?
>> :-)
>> 
> 
> Yeah Matt you could even sing him a song
> 
> well there's a little boy waiting at the counter of the apple store
> he's been waiting down under, waiting all these years, do you ever ever
> see him from up top
> he gets pushed around, knocked to the ground
> but he gets to his feet and says
> What about me
> it isn't fair
> Iv'e got my Mac, now i want software
> can't you see, i wanna live
> but you don't see here where I live
> 
> feel free to improve the lyrics.*L*
> 
> Yvonne
> 
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Re: Just as I thought...we're in a different world

[Matthew Healey]

On 13/01/2005, at 6:34 PM, John Currie wrote:


Does Steve know about our plight ?


Steve knows. Trust me. Steve knows.

Basically put the blame on Apple Australia. They just can't be bothered 
doing it. Plain and Simple.


At first their justification for not even enabling photo prints was 
that Kodak wouldn't ship pictures to peoples houses. You had to go and 
pick them up from a Kodak store.


"View and Print Photos for delivery anywhere in Australia". Thats a 
quote from the Kodak Australia web site.


I don't know what their justification is now. Probably something along 
the lines of "We can't be bothered".


At any rate, the impression that I get is don't expect anything from 
Apple Oz any time soon.


- Matt

Re: For Sale (with prices) Last items remaining!

[Chris Griffiths]

Does anyone have an old iMac for sale with a laser printer attached?  
Laser printer not essential.


Regards Chris Griffiths
__
V I S U A L  M A N A G E M E N T
Suite 4, 316 Onslow Road, Shenton Park WA 6008
Phone: (08) 9381 2299  Fax: (08) 9381 3366
www.visualm.com.au
On 14/01/2005, at 11:04 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Hi, I'm being relocated and down to the last items for sale in Perth
before I move.  All reasonable offers considered.  Please email me at
.  Photos of items can be provided or, 
if

you are in Perth, I can make arrangements for you to come and see the
items. Quick sale preferred.

***

$500 ONO - Ipex IBM PC compatible. "Micro Office" form factor (i.e.
micro-ATX system box). Pentium 4 1.6 GHz. 768 MB RAM, 3.5" floppy disk,
52x speed CD ROM, 40 GB hard disk, comes with license of Microsoft 
Windows

XP Pro complete with original installation discs and serial number.

***

$100 ONO - Canon FAX-B150 fax machine/telephone. Includes 1 new 
(sealed)

BX-3 cartridge. Very good condition.

***

$1 each - Quantity of grey plastic office document trays, stackable. 
Good

condition.

***

$20 ONO - Nokia 3310 GSM mobile phone in original packaging with
battery, AC charger and manual. This unit is in fair used condition.

***

$10 ONO - Omni brand telephone caller ID unit, model CA-390, with
instruction booklet.

***

FREE - Two (2) x 64 MB PC100 RAM DIMM, should suit B&W Power Macintosh 
G3.

Stored in anti-static bag (of course).

***

$30 ONO - Technics SL-XP300 portable CD player with AC adapter. Also 
takes

2 x AA cells. Good condition.

***

$10 ea - RCA SystemLink Simple 3 and SystemLink 3 universal remote
controls. Hardly used. Manuals available on the Internet.

***

$100 ONO - Canon AE-1 Program 35mm SLR (single lens reflex) film 
camera with:

- Canon 28 mm f2.8 wide angle lens
- Canon 50 mm f1.8 lens
- Canon 35-70 mm f3.5 zoom lens
- Sigma 70-210 mm f4.5 zoom lens
- National PE-357S flash unit
All lenses have been protected throughout their life by UV filters.  
This

camera was my pride and joy for many years and is still in good working
order. All items must be purchased as a set and I will include my handy
carry bag.

***

Free - Power cables, various.

***

Free - SCSI cables, various.

***

$100 - Desk, white, with cable tidy underneath. Fair condition.
Dimensions (mm) 1600 (L) x 750 (W) x 740 (H).

***

$50 - Dimplex electric column radiator (oil-filled), on castors.
Excellent condition. Dimensions (mm) 860 (L) x 130 (W) x 650 (H).

***

$75 - Student desk, wood grain laminate, 4 drawers. Very good 
condition.
Dimensions (mm) 1200 (L) x 600 (W) x 760 (H). Will include green 
plastic

chair with metal legs.

***

$30 - Men's racing bike, white, "Gordonson" brand. About 14 years old.
Cost > $300 new. Not heavily used and in fair condition for its age, 
needs

some work - new tyres, service.  Minor rust.

***

$10 - Gym bench. Fair condition. Suitable for sitting or lying on for 
free

weight use.



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Re: Just as I thought...we're in a different world

[wyvern]

Hey Matt! Any chance of a quick word with Steve while you're there?
:-)




Yeah Matt you could even sing him a song

well there's a little boy waiting at the counter of the apple store
he's been waiting down under, waiting all these years, do you ever ever 
see him from up top

he gets pushed around, knocked to the ground
but he gets to his feet and says
What about me
it isn't fair
Iv'e got my Mac, now i want software
can't you see, i wanna live
but you don't see here where I live

feel free to improve the lyrics.*L*

Yvonne

For Sale (with prices) Last items remaining!

[andrewlists]

Hi, I'm being relocated and down to the last items for sale in Perth
before I move.  All reasonable offers considered.  Please email me at
.  Photos of items can be provided or, if
you are in Perth, I can make arrangements for you to come and see the
items. Quick sale preferred.

***

$500 ONO - Ipex IBM PC compatible. "Micro Office" form factor (i.e.
micro-ATX system box). Pentium 4 1.6 GHz. 768 MB RAM, 3.5" floppy disk,
52x speed CD ROM, 40 GB hard disk, comes with license of Microsoft Windows
XP Pro complete with original installation discs and serial number.

***

$100 ONO - Canon FAX-B150 fax machine/telephone. Includes 1 new (sealed)
BX-3 cartridge. Very good condition.

***

$1 each - Quantity of grey plastic office document trays, stackable. Good
condition.

***

$20 ONO - Nokia 3310 GSM mobile phone in original packaging with
battery, AC charger and manual. This unit is in fair used condition.

***

$10 ONO - Omni brand telephone caller ID unit, model CA-390, with
instruction booklet.

***

FREE - Two (2) x 64 MB PC100 RAM DIMM, should suit B&W Power Macintosh G3.
Stored in anti-static bag (of course).

***

$30 ONO - Technics SL-XP300 portable CD player with AC adapter. Also takes
2 x AA cells. Good condition.

***

$10 ea - RCA SystemLink Simple 3 and SystemLink 3 universal remote
controls. Hardly used. Manuals available on the Internet.

***

$100 ONO - Canon AE-1 Program 35mm SLR (single lens reflex) film camera with:
- Canon 28 mm f2.8 wide angle lens
- Canon 50 mm f1.8 lens
- Canon 35-70 mm f3.5 zoom lens
- Sigma 70-210 mm f4.5 zoom lens
- National PE-357S flash unit
All lenses have been protected throughout their life by UV filters.  This
camera was my pride and joy for many years and is still in good working
order. All items must be purchased as a set and I will include my handy
carry bag.

***

Free - Power cables, various.

***

Free - SCSI cables, various.

***

$100 - Desk, white, with cable tidy underneath. Fair condition.
Dimensions (mm) 1600 (L) x 750 (W) x 740 (H).

***

$50 - Dimplex electric column radiator (oil-filled), on castors.
Excellent condition. Dimensions (mm) 860 (L) x 130 (W) x 650 (H).

***

$75 - Student desk, wood grain laminate, 4 drawers. Very good condition.
Dimensions (mm) 1200 (L) x 600 (W) x 760 (H). Will include green plastic
chair with metal legs.

***

$30 - Men's racing bike, white, "Gordonson" brand. About 14 years old.
Cost > $300 new. Not heavily used and in fair condition for its age, needs
some work - new tyres, service.  Minor rust.

***

$10 - Gym bench. Fair condition. Suitable for sitting or lying on for free
weight use.

Re: Just as I thought...we're in a different world

[Peter Hinchliffe]

On 14/01/2005, at 10:34 AM, John Currie wrote:

All of the messages so far on this topic have been  unaustralian that 
is despondent and accepting of our lot. Telling each other why it 
should be so rather than why it should change.



Does Steve know about our plight ?

Can we do something about it ?

Cheerup




Hey Matt! Any chance of a quick word with Steve while you're there?
:-)


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Re: Just as I thought...we're in a different world

[John Currie]

All of the messages so far on this topic have been  unaustralian that 
is despondent and accepting of our lot. Telling each other why it 
should be so rather than why it should change.



Does Steve know about our plight ?

Can we do something about it ?

Cheerup

Re: Just as I thought...we're in a different world

[Paul Kitchener]

Ted Burbidge wrote:


We're just not on the map!


I'm sure being in a 'backwater' has some advantages.

We have a lovely venue for the annual BBQ don't we?

Think of Onno, he couldn't be such intrepid an explorer in Europe ;)


Cheers

Paul

Re: Just as I thought...we're in a different world

[Rod]

On 14/1/05 9:56 AM, "Keith Feltham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> At 9.29 am +0800 14/1/05, Ted Burbidge wrote:
>> Thats because the Mac market in Australia, compared to other countries is so
>> minutely small.All those European countries would each,have a bigger market
>> than here.
> 
> OK, if that's true, why is the Mac market in Australia smaller than
> that of European countries with populations approximately equal to
> Australia's?
> 
> Overpricing here? Incompetent marketing? Insufficient retailer
> margins? All of these things? If so, the blame can be placed squarely
> at the door of Apple Australia.
> 
> Or are there other factors causing Apple to have so few customers in
> Australia that we are marginalised almost to irrelevance in the
> general market?


It is shame really, as those things like iTMS and iPhoto books really do
make a difference between Mac and PC (even though iTMS is for both).  They
are the extra things in a salesperson's arsenal that can get a Switcher over
the line.  Now they are just one of those things that someone asks on a
support call, "How come I can't buy an iPhoto book" or "How come I can't buy
any songs from the Music Store in iTunes".  I'm sure our dumb copyright laws
are the chief problem here, as technically you are not allowed to copy music
from one medium to another (which would include downloading), from what I
know.  Come on Steve, step in here and pay a visit!  Bill did when heard the
Government were thinking of switching to Linux :-)

Maybe with this new ex-Dell guy at the head of Apple Australia will start to
bring in some new changes to get things going.  I guess the start was the
Macworld Sydney event.  Baby steps... :-)

Seeya

Rod!

Re: Just as I thought...we're in a different world

[Mark Secker]

simply economy of scale Europe is for all it's different languages 
one BIG market with all the cost savings involved in distribution, 
marketing, support etc



At 9.29 am +0800 14/1/05, Ted Burbidge wrote:

Thats because the Mac market in Australia, compared to other countries is so
minutely small.All those European countries would each,have a bigger market
than here.


OK, if that's true, why is the Mac market in Australia smaller than 
that of European countries with populations approximately equal to 
Australia's?


Overpricing here? Incompetent marketing? Insufficient retailer 
margins? All of these things? If so, the blame can be placed 
squarely at the door of Apple Australia.


Or are there other factors causing Apple to have so few customers in 
Australia that we are marginalised almost to irrelevance in the 
general market?



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Re: Just as I thought...we're in a different world

[Michael Kane Taylor]

Don't forget, this comes from a country that plays 'World' Series baseball!




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on Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 09:44:11AM +0800, Peter Hinchliffe wrote:

 this is well known, of course. What I find annoying is Apple's
 use of the word "Worldwide" when they mean nothing of the sort.


Agreed. Perhaps someone in marketing thought that 'international'
sounded too dull and supposed that 'worldwide' was a more attractive
way of saying the same thing.



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Re: Just as I thought...we're in a different world

[Keith Feltham]

At 9.29 am +0800 14/1/05, Ted Burbidge wrote:

Thats because the Mac market in Australia, compared to other countries is so
minutely small.All those European countries would each,have a bigger market
than here.


OK, if that's true, why is the Mac market in Australia smaller than 
that of European countries with populations approximately equal to 
Australia's?


Overpricing here? Incompetent marketing? Insufficient retailer 
margins? All of these things? If so, the blame can be placed squarely 
at the door of Apple Australia.


Or are there other factors causing Apple to have so few customers in 
Australia that we are marginalised almost to irrelevance in the 
general market?

Re: Just as I thought...we're in a different world

[James Devenish]

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
on Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 09:44:11AM +0800, Peter Hinchliffe wrote:
> this is well known, of course. What I find annoying is Apple's
> use of the word "Worldwide" when they mean nothing of the sort.

Agreed. Perhaps someone in marketing thought that 'international'
sounded too dull and supposed that 'worldwide' was a more attractive
way of saying the same thing.

Re: Just as I thought...we're in a different world

[Peter Hinchliffe]

On 14/01/2005, at 9:29 AM, Ted Burbidge wrote:

Thats because the Mac market in Australia, compared to other countries 
is so
minutely small.All those European countries would each,have a bigger 
market

than here.
Regards, Ted




this is well known, of course. What I find annoying is Apple's use of 
the word "Worldwide" when they mean nothing of the sort.


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iPod record?

[Paul Weaver]

I have learned that fashion guru Karl Lagerfeld owns about seventy iPods.
Yes 70.  This suggests to me that some of his own stitching might have come
undone.

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RE: Just as I thought...we're in a different world

[Ted Burbidge]

Thats because the Mac market in Australia, compared to other countries is so
minutely small.All those European countries would each,have a bigger market
than here.
Regards, Ted

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The proof is out. Apple defines "Wordlwide" as Northern hemisphere
only. This from Apple's "Books" page
() - bottom of page, RH side.

Featuring Worldwide Availability

Widely available, you can order iPhoto books from within the iPhoto
application in the following countries: USA & Canada, Japan, and Europe
(including Austria, Belgium, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany,
Ireland, Italy, the Netherlands, Norway, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland and
the United Kingdom).

We're just not on the map!


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Just as I thought...we're in a different world

[Peter Hinchliffe]

The proof is out. Apple defines "Wordlwide" as Northern hemisphere 
only. This from Apple's "Books" page 
() - bottom of page, RH side.


Featuring Worldwide Availability

Widely available, you can order iPhoto books from within the iPhoto 
application in the following countries: USA & Canada, Japan, and Europe 
(including Austria, Belgium, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, 
Ireland, Italy, the Netherlands, Norway, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland and 
the United Kingdom).


We're just not on the map!


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FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
Perth, Western Australia
Phone (618) 9332 6482Fax (618) 9332 0913

Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to.

Re: G4 to upgrade or not to upgrade, this is the question...still!

[Peter Hinchliffe]

On 13/01/2005, at 4:58 PM, Robert Howells wrote:


Don't waste your time buying one with only 256 of Ram.
I would accept only 512 Mb as a minimum,
and as you seem to be pushing the limits more RAM is better

So the $949 is only the starting point ! ?

Bob




And bear in mind that the Mac mini is not user-upgradeable (see 
http://www.macfixit.com, today). In order to avoid future costs, it 
would be best to order the configuration you are going to need. Largest 
RAM, HD you can afford,  and superdrive if necessary. All upgrades to a 
base system will entail a trip to your favourite AppleCentre, paying 
Apple's prices.


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Re: Question: AppleWorks 6 PDF

[Peter Hinchliffe]

On 13/01/2005, at 1:17 PM, Shay Telfer wrote:

The new iWork is basically a word processor (Pages) plus a 
presentation app (KeyNote). AppleWorks is a word processor (which does 
presentations), spreadsheet, database, painting and drawing package.


So, not really much of a replacement yet. Perhaps iWork '06? Or by 
that time they might have devoted some Apple programmer time to the 
Aqua Open Office effort...


Have fun,
Shay



iWork was promoted during the keynote as "building a better Appleworks" 
(or words to that effect). I expect that we're just seeing the 
beginning of something very nice. Up until now we've just had Keynote, 
now we have that plus Pages. The Next Big Thing will have to be a 
spreadsheet-type application, I would think. It's just a case of when.


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Re: G4 to upgrade or not to upgrade, this is the question...still!

[Paul Kitchener]

Rod wrote:



On 14/1/05 12:30 AM, "Rob Findlay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:






From: Rod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 17:00:53 +0800
To: WAMUG Mailing List 
Subject: Re: G4 to upgrade or not to upgrade, this is the question...still!

Aaagghhh, the missing bit of information that suddenly changes the equation
:-)  I am not sure whether ProTools will run *well* in Classic mode within
OS X, so you may be going the CPU upgrade path.


Don't even think about it. There's no way this would work with ProTools.




CPU upgrade or running ProTools in Classic mode?  Not being a music guy, I
wouldn't have a clue.  That's why I ask!

Seeya

Rod!


OS emulation of almost any kind really starts to fall short when it 
needs *real* hardware access, in this case the Hard Drive.


For instance, I'd like to see what would happen if you tried to use a 
mac internal modem to send a fax from Virtual PC.



Cheers

Paul

Re: Telstra Rip Off

[Peter Hinchliffe]

On 13/01/2005, at 10:05 AM, Ken Jackson wrote:


1223 has been pretty much common knowledge for several years
now...I've been using it for at least three yearsbut
yes...they don't publicize it a great deal!




I tend to live in the dark ages when it comes to phones, so whenever I 
need to call directory assistance (which is very rarely) I can only 
ever remember the ancient 013 number. When you do this, the number they 
tell to ring instead is 1223.


Works for me...

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Re: G4 to upgrade or not to upgrade, this is the question...still!

[Rod]

On 14/1/05 12:30 AM, "Rob Findlay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> 
> 
>> From: Rod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 17:00:53 +0800
>> To: WAMUG Mailing List 
>> Subject: Re: G4 to upgrade or not to upgrade, this is the question...still!
>> 
>> Aaagghhh, the missing bit of information that suddenly changes the equation
>> :-)  I am not sure whether ProTools will run *well* in Classic mode within
>> OS X, so you may be going the CPU upgrade path.
> 
> Don't even think about it. There's no way this would work with ProTools.
> 

CPU upgrade or running ProTools in Classic mode?  Not being a music guy, I
wouldn't have a clue.  That's why I ask!

Seeya

Rod!

Re: G4 to upgrade or not to upgrade, this is the question...still!

[Rob Findlay]

> From: Rod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 17:00:53 +0800
> To: WAMUG Mailing List 
> Subject: Re: G4 to upgrade or not to upgrade, this is the question...still!
> 
> Aaagghhh, the missing bit of information that suddenly changes the equation
> :-)  I am not sure whether ProTools will run *well* in Classic mode within
> OS X, so you may be going the CPU upgrade path.

Don't even think about it. There's no way this would work with ProTools.