Apple Mail - rules query
In Mail (latest version within OSX 10.6.4), let's say I have the following mailboxes ... Mailbox A Mailbox B Mailbox C I have a rule such that if a message arrives in account 'Mailbox A', and contains a specific string of characters, then the message will be copied to Mailbox B. That works fine. What I now want to do is copy the arriving message to Mailbox C (as well as copying it to Mailbox B. However when I tried to add the action Copy Message To Mailbox C, the 'Copy Message' option is greyed out, presumably because I've already used the 'Copy Message' option in order to copy to Mailbox B. Mail doesn't seem to allow you to duplicate 'Copy Message' action within the same rule. So, I created a new rule, same as the first rule but replacing 'Copy Message to Mailbox B' with 'Copy Message to Mailbox C'. Upon testing this, Mail seems to act on the 1st rule, but ignores the 2nd rule. I suspect that this is due to: Each incoming message can have only one rule applied to it. Mail doesn't consider the message copied to Mailbox B an incoming message. Whilst typing out this query, I did figure a workaround, however it's not perfect so I'll keep typing. To my rule I added another action - 'Redirect message to Mailbox C'. Whilst this works, it does leave a trail, in that the message in Mailbox B is marked as 'redirected', which is not ideal. So if anyone knows how I can 'copy' an incoming message to more than one mailbox, I'd be interested to hear. Cheers, Steven -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Canoscan LIDE 25 CS5
Thanks Rob!Thanks Ronni -your blood's worth bottling!The 32 bit fix worked.taBlitto Rod Blitvich-Amy Sam’s Dad. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .0409 681 256 rb...@iinet.net.auhttp://web.me.com/blittoI haven't lost my mind.it's backed up on disksomewhere! On 27/08/2010, at 2:26 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:Hi Blitto,You need to set the CS5 application on your Mac to 32 bit mode for this Scanner to work.Canon need to write a 64bit driver for CS5 and make it available for all recent All-in-one printer/scanners etc.Downloaded the TWAIN plug-in from this Adobe link http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=4687Put the TWAIN plug-in in your Photoshop CS5 folder in the Plug-ins folder, in the Import-Export folderDo a "get info" on the Photoshop CS5 application and switch on the "Open in 32-bit mode" (Make sure Photoshop is not running or the switch won't be available.)Plug in the scanner, launched Photoshop, and File Import CanoScan LiDe 35According to Adobe the twain driver for cs4 will not work in cs5.You will know if the twain is ok by going to help and getting system info in photoshop.Scroll to the bottom and look for errors with twain or your scanner.Cheers,RonniOn 27/08/2010, at 2:17 PM, Rob Davies wrote:Afternoon,Check the TWAIN pug-ins is in Plug-ins/Import-Export folder, if it is then an email to Canon for an updated driver would be on the cards.Cheers!`RobD...On 27Aug2010, at 6:44 am, Rod Blitvich wrote:Hi WAMUGersRecently installed CS5.Now my I can't use the import from scanner/twain menu item in Photoshop to scan from my Canoscan LIDE 25 scanner.It used to work in CS3.Please as anyone had success?Any secrets?taBlitto image.gifRod Blitvich-Amy Sam’s Dad. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .0409 681 256 rb...@iinet.net.auhttp://web.me.com/blittoA Life? Cool! Where can I download one of those from? --TheWAMacintoshUserGroupMailingList-- Archives-http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines-http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe-mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au --TheWAMacintoshUserGroupMailingList-- Archives-http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines-http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe-mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Consultant wanted...
Hi... I'm looking for someone who can do a restore from a Retrospect 8 backup (license included), and possibly some other installs (maybe MYOB). Please contact me offlist. Thanks, Shay -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Plan change for iinet clients
This should be noted from the bottom of that webpage. Both uploads and downloads count towards your quota usage. Uploads never used to be counted. Still good deals to be had, though. I might consider downgrading my plan as I never use up my quota now since it went to 50/50. Andrew On 27/08/2010, at 11:54 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote: Hi All For anyone with iinet, and may not have received their email as yet. Have a look at their new plans! http://www.iinet.net.au/broadband/plans.html Some of their higher plans are now 200GB onpeak and 200GB offpeak, and the top one is 500GB on peak and 500GB off peak! For good pricing too! :o) Now costs me $30 less per month and I get an additional 275Gb per month! Thanks iinet!! :o) Note, you have to log in to your toolbox and change it to the new plan. No contract if you don't want it, and most of all, generally no cost to change plans ;O) Enjoy Kind Regards Daniel --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel @ macwizardry . com . au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Macintosh** -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Plan change for iinet clients
IiNet has always counted uploads in their naked plans and I assumed it was the same for their other plans as well. They charge $30 to downgrade (free to upgrade go figure) Regards, Eugene -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au inline: (null) 4.tiff On 28/08/2010, at 10:10 PM, Andrew wrote: This should be noted from the bottom of that webpage. Both uploads and downloads count towards your quota usage. Uploads never used to be counted. Still good deals to be had, though. I might consider downgrading my plan as I never use up my quota now since it went to 50/50. Andrew On 27/08/2010, at 11:54 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote: Hi All For anyone with iinet, and may not have received their email as yet. Have a look at their new plans! http://www.iinet.net.au/broadband/plans.html Some of their higher plans are now 200GB onpeak and 200GB offpeak, and the top one is 500GB on peak and 500GB off peak! For good pricing too! :o) Now costs me $30 less per month and I get an additional 275Gb per month! Thanks iinet!! :o) Note, you have to log in to your toolbox and change it to the new plan. No contract if you don't want it, and most of all, generally no cost to change plans ;O) Enjoy Kind Regards Daniel --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel @ macwizardry . com . au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Macintosh** -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Home file copy
Bob, Good to hear from you again. Hope all is going well for you. I know when one posts a question there is no obligation on the part of list members to respond so when none came I went ahead and dragged Merv to the external HD. Then last night your response came. Thank you for that. I am now reconsidering my position!!! The HD is a WD MyBookWorld 1TB and is for network backup - it has an ethernet connection and a USB 2 for add-ons. For the first backup the instructions suggest a direct ethernet connection between computer and HD. I did that and 55GB took about an hour to transfer. Tested access to some files. All OK. The documentation for the HD says it supports HTTP, HTTPS, HFS+J, CIFS/SMB, NFS, FTP. Disk Utility does no 'see' the HD so I cannot check as to its format. SuperDuper requires HFS+J, but I cannot check this - clicking on the icon an selecting Get Info does not show format either. I could try a User backup with SuperDuper and see how far it gets. I have another HD with firewire as a bootable backup. Thank you for your response. Merv On 28/08/10 6:00 PM, Robert Howells wrote: Hi Merv, Two things 1. that should only copy that folder and leave the oriiginal where it is BUT 2. You will not want to do that because : - Your Merv User includes a system User Library and that will not copy exactly . It would be better to use say Superduper to copy and it will put all the Library things in the right way . You could copy your own created files and folders out of the User Merv by drag and drop . Just don't try and copy the system generated Documents Folder as a folder . Good luck Bob -- Education without values and knowledge without ethics is a false education. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Home file copy
Hi Merv, As Bob has already mentioned, a drag and drop of your Home Folder is NOT a good idea, and can/will have problems. Do you have anything else on this external drive or intend to? If not, why don't you use Time Machine to backup just your Home Folder if you don't wish to backup your whole System? If you do use Time Machine, it is best to use the drive exclusive for Time Machine backups. If you wish to use it for other data as well, it's much better to partition an external drive into 2 parts, (also called volumes). Assign one to Time Machine, for its exclusive use for backups; use the other partition however you want. 'How to Format Partition your Drive to work with Time Machine': 1.Make sure to copy any files on your hard disk to another location because reformatting will erase them. 2.Click on your computer hard disk’s icon. Select Applications → Utilities → Disk Utility. 3.In the left hand column, click on the drive icon for the name of your external drive. Make sure you click on the first icon, not the second level volume icon. 4.Select the Partition tab. 5.Select the format type from the Format drop-down menu. Select Mac OS Extended (Journaled) (recommended). 6.Click on the Options button. 7.Select the type of partition you want to use: (In your case you would require GUID as you are using an Intel computer) GUID Partition Table - for Intel-based Macs Apple Partition Map - for PowerPC-based Macs 8.Click OK. 9.Click the Apply button. Then turn on Time Machine from the panel in System Preferences and set Time Machine to exclude all but your Home Folder. Or, as Bob suggests use SuperDuper? Cheers, Ronni On 29/08/2010, at 9:59 AM, Merv Bond wrote: Bob, Good to hear from you again. Hope all is going well for you. I know when one posts a question there is no obligation on the part of list members to respond so when none came I went ahead and dragged Merv to the external HD. Then last night your response came. Thank you for that. I am now reconsidering my position!!! The HD is a WD MyBookWorld 1TB and is for network backup - it has an ethernet connection and a USB 2 for add-ons. For the first backup the instructions suggest a direct ethernet connection between computer and HD. I did that and 55GB took about an hour to transfer. Tested access to some files. All OK. The documentation for the HD says it supports HTTP, HTTPS, HFS+J, CIFS/SMB, NFS, FTP. Disk Utility does no 'see' the HD so I cannot check as to its format. SuperDuper requires HFS+J, but I cannot check this - clicking on the icon an selecting Get Info does not show format either. I could try a User backup with SuperDuper and see how far it gets. I have another HD with firewire as a bootable backup. Thank you for your response. Merv On 28/08/10 6:00 PM, Robert Howells wrote: Hi Merv, Two things 1. that should only copy that folder and leave the oriiginal where it is BUT 2. You will not want to do that because : - Your Merv User includes a system User Library and that will not copy exactly . It would be better to use say Superduper to copy and it will put all the Library things in the right way . You could copy your own created files and folders out of the User Merv by drag and drop . Just don't try and copy the system generated Documents Folder as a folder . Good luck Bob -- Education without values and knowledge without ethics is a false education. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Airport Configuration
Greetings! My MacBook core 2 duo is asking me to configure the airport card. All works but not the airport. I can connect to the Internet via Ethernet cable. I can not find where to configure airport. Any help would be appreciated. Cheers, Joe -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Home file copy
Hi Ronni When I get to step 3 the only image in the left hand column that appears is my computer's HD, not the external drive and that is why I do not know what it's format is. To complicate matters I wish to store files from my intel and from my wife's iBook G4, a power PC. Perhaps, as Bob suggested, we store only those files and folders we created. Prior to doing that I would remove the Merv Home file that is now sitting there. Thanks Merv On 29/08/10 10:58 AM, Ronda Brown wrote: Hi Merv, As Bob has already mentioned, a drag and drop of your Home Folder is NOT a good idea, and can/will have problems. Do you have anything else on this external drive or intend to? If not, why don't you use Time Machine to backup just your Home Folder if you don't wish to backup your whole System? If you do use Time Machine, it is best to use the drive exclusive for Time Machine backups. If you wish to use it for other data as well, it's much better to partition an external drive into 2 parts, (also called volumes). Assign one to Time Machine, for its exclusive use for backups; use the other partition however you want. *'How to Format Partition your Drive to work with Time Machine':* 1.Make sure to copy any files on your hard disk to another location because reformatting will erase them. 2.Click on your computer hard disk’s icon. Select Applications → Utilities → Disk Utility. 3.In the left hand column, click on the drive icon for the name of your external drive. Make sure you click on the* first icon*, not the second level volume icon. 4.Select the Partition tab. 5.Select the format type from the Format drop-down menu. Select Mac OS Extended (Journaled) (recommended). 6.Click on the Options button. 7.Select the type of partition you want to use: (In your case you would require GUID as you are using an Intel computer) GUID Partition Table - for Intel-based Macs Apple Partition Map - for PowerPC-based Macs 8.Click OK. 9.Click the Apply button. Then turn on Time Machine from the panel in System Preferences and set Time Machine to exclude all but your Home Folder. Or, as Bob suggests use SuperDuper? Cheers, Ronni On 29/08/2010, at 9:59 AM, Merv Bond wrote: Bob, Good to hear from you again. Hope all is going well for you. I know when one posts a question there is no obligation on the part of list members to respond so when none came I went ahead and dragged Merv to the external HD. Then last night your response came. Thank you for that. I am now reconsidering my position!!! The HD is a WD MyBookWorld 1TB and is for network backup - it has an ethernet connection and a USB 2 for add-ons. For the first backup the instructions suggest a direct ethernet connection between computer and HD. I did that and 55GB took about an hour to transfer. Tested access to some files. All OK. The documentation for the HD says it supports HTTP, HTTPS, HFS+J, CIFS/SMB, NFS, FTP. Disk Utility does no 'see' the HD so I cannot check as to its format. SuperDuper requires HFS+J, but I cannot check this - clicking on the icon an selecting Get Info does not show format either. I could try a User backup with SuperDuper and see how far it gets. I have another HD with firewire as a bootable backup. Thank you for your response. Merv On 28/08/10 6:00 PM, Robert Howells wrote: Hi Merv, Two things 1. that should only copy that folder and leave the oriiginal where it is BUT 2. You will not want to do that because : - Your Merv User includes a system User Library and that will not copy exactly . It would be better to use say Superduper to copy and it will put all the Library things in the right way . You could copy your own created files and folders out of the User Merv by drag and drop . Just don't try and copy the system generated Documents Folder as a folder . Good luck Bob -- Education without values and knowledge without ethics is a false education. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- Education without values and knowledge without ethics is a false education. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Home file copy
i'm using 'xupport' to make bootable clones..James On 29/08/2010, at 10:58, Ronda Brown wrote: Hi Merv, As Bob has already mentioned, a drag and drop of your Home Folder is NOT a good idea, and can/will have problems. Do you have anything else on this external drive or intend to? If not, why don't you use Time Machine to backup just your Home Folder if you don't wish to backup your whole System? If you do use Time Machine, it is best to use the drive exclusive for Time Machine backups. If you wish to use it for other data as well, it's much better to partition an external drive into 2 parts, (also called volumes). Assign one to Time Machine, for its exclusive use for backups; use the other partition however you want. 'How to Format Partition your Drive to work with Time Machine': 1.Make sure to copy any files on your hard disk to another location because reformatting will erase them. 2.Click on your computer hard disk’s icon. Select Applications → Utilities → Disk Utility. 3.In the left hand column, click on the drive icon for the name of your external drive. Make sure you click on the first icon, not the second level volume icon. 4.Select the Partition tab. 5.Select the format type from the Format drop-down menu. Select Mac OS Extended (Journaled) (recommended). 6.Click on the Options button. 7.Select the type of partition you want to use: (In your case you would require GUID as you are using an Intel computer) GUID Partition Table - for Intel-based Macs Apple Partition Map - for PowerPC-based Macs 8.Click OK. 9.Click the Apply button. Then turn on Time Machine from the panel in System Preferences and set Time Machine to exclude all but your Home Folder. Or, as Bob suggests use SuperDuper? Cheers, Ronni On 29/08/2010, at 9:59 AM, Merv Bond wrote: Bob, Good to hear from you again. Hope all is going well for you. I know when one posts a question there is no obligation on the part of list members to respond so when none came I went ahead and dragged Merv to the external HD. Then last night your response came. Thank you for that. I am now reconsidering my position!!! The HD is a WD MyBookWorld 1TB and is for network backup - it has an ethernet connection and a USB 2 for add-ons. For the first backup the instructions suggest a direct ethernet connection between computer and HD. I did that and 55GB took about an hour to transfer. Tested access to some files. All OK. The documentation for the HD says it supports HTTP, HTTPS, HFS+J, CIFS/SMB, NFS, FTP. Disk Utility does no 'see' the HD so I cannot check as to its format. SuperDuper requires HFS+J, but I cannot check this - clicking on the icon an selecting Get Info does not show format either. I could try a User backup with SuperDuper and see how far it gets. I have another HD with firewire as a bootable backup. Thank you for your response. Merv On 28/08/10 6:00 PM, Robert Howells wrote: Hi Merv, Two things 1. that should only copy that folder and leave the oriiginal where it is BUT 2. You will not want to do that because : - Your Merv User includes a system User Library and that will not copy exactly . It would be better to use say Superduper to copy and it will put all the Library things in the right way . You could copy your own created files and folders out of the User Merv by drag and drop . Just don't try and copy the system generated Documents Folder as a folder . Good luck Bob -- Education without values and knowledge without ethics is a false education. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au SAD Technic Video Productions, Electronic repairs U3 / 6 Chalkley Pl Bayswater WA 6053 +618 9370 5307,+618 6262 5707, 0414 421 132 http://www.iinet.net.au/~saddas skype: barleeway over 40 years in electronics -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Airport Extreme Card
Good morning all, I have an Airport Extreme Card for $35 if anyone is interested. Regards, Adrian adrianske...@me.com -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Airport Configuration
On 29/08/2010, at 11:38 AM, Joe Mastrella wrote: Greetings! My MacBook core 2 duo is asking me to configure the airport card. All works but not the airport. I can connect to the Internet via Ethernet cable. I can not find where to configure airport. Any help would be appreciated. Hi Joe, Have you 'Configured / Setup a Wireless Network? Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro Intel Core i7 2.66GHz / 4GB / 1067 MHz DDR3 / 500GB Serial ATA Drive @ 7200rpm OS X 10.6.3 Snow Leopard Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance) -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Mac mini vers iMac
Hi John With the recent refresh of the iMac, its processors, graphics card etc. are now well ahead of the Mac mini. The Mac mini also has the slower 5400 rpm HD vs 7200rpm of the iMac. To get 8GB of RAM into the Mac mini you need to purchase two 4GB Modules as there are only 2 RAM slots, which is a more expensive option than the 4 x 2GB you can achieve with the iMac. By the time you spec up a Mac mini and add the cost of the monitor, you're paying the equivalent of the base iMac and you've got a very underpowered machine by comparison. There is no doubt the Mac mini is a beautiful and elegant little machine...it's just a shame Apple won't come to the party and give it the horse power it needs. Just a word of warning if you decide to go the iMac route. Since the introduction of the LED screen at the end of last year, there is an issue with yellow tinge or blotchy screens. Unfortunately this seems to be a subjective issue...some people don't seem phased by it... for others (like me ;-) ) it is extremely annoying and unacceptable in a computer for which we are paying $2,000. Last December I purchased a new iMac and its screen was bad (yellow blotches), nowhere near the quality of my current G5 iMac. Two screen replacements and two replacement computers later, Apple still could not give me an iMac with an acceptable screen, and the last two iMacs also had manufacturing defects in the bargain (one had black paint scratched off on the inside of the glass border and the other had a ding in the lower right front corner.) In the end I gave up and managed to get a refund...the whole exercise took from December 2009 to April 2010. I've waited until this recent refresh to try again and with some trepidation I have ordered another iMac. In fact it is ready for me to pick up from the courier depot tomorrow. I hope I don't have to go through the whole replacement fiasco again, but I am not confident when discussions like these are still showing up http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa? threadID=2528347start=15tstart=0 http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=983886 If the Mac mini was just a more capable computer, I would definitely have chosen it over the iMac, just to avoid all the angst that Apple's lack of quality control is giving me. Sorry about the rant, but I hope this information is helpful to you. Cheers Neil On 28/08/2010, at 10:38 AM, John Hatch wrote: I notice a lot of mail about the Mac mini. I am about to upgrade from my Mac book pro (prismo) and was considering either the mini or the iMac with fusion(have to work between win and Mac) and elagato eye TV additions. Would be interested in any pros and cons by others John Sent from my iPad -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Mac mini vers iMac
Morning All, I have noticed this issue with iMacs previous and current models, also a lot of LED monitors of recent purchase. But, once monitor has been calibrated it is perfect no tint, cannot fault current 27 iMac once achieved. Reasoning for this is quite simply, colour temperature settings of monitors are set for Northern Hemisphere which use a cooler temperature being Red - Orange- Yellow/Bone as it gets close to a natural tone? Hotter being natural to a blue which for us in Southern Hemisphere is closer to our natural lighting conditions. So, economics of where monitors are to be used is why monitors are such, as is the colour profiles within colorsync and other default colour profiles or software. Monitors used to be sold this way and some professional monitors still are. Another reason as most people have shown through surveys and are not bothered by such a tint, is it is a lot more comfortable to use this way. Just try setting Apple gamma profile to a hotter temperature and see how you feel after an hour or more. Cheers! `RobD... On 29Aug2010, at 12:07 pm, Touchwood wrote: Hi John With the recent refresh of the iMac, its processors, graphics card etc. are now well ahead of the Mac mini. The Mac mini also has the slower 5400 rpm HD vs 7200rpm of the iMac. To get 8GB of RAM into the Mac mini you need to purchase two 4GB Modules as there are only 2 RAM slots, which is a more expensive option than the 4 x 2GB you can achieve with the iMac. By the time you spec up a Mac mini and add the cost of the monitor, you're paying the equivalent of the base iMac and you've got a very underpowered machine by comparison. There is no doubt the Mac mini is a beautiful and elegant little machine...it's just a shame Apple won't come to the party and give it the horse power it needs. Just a word of warning if you decide to go the iMac route. Since the introduction of the LED screen at the end of last year, there is an issue with yellow tinge or blotchy screens. Unfortunately this seems to be a subjective issue...some people don't seem phased by it... for others (like me ;-) ) it is extremely annoying and unacceptable in a computer for which we are paying $2,000. Last December I purchased a new iMac and its screen was bad (yellow blotches), nowhere near the quality of my current G5 iMac. Two screen replacements and two replacement computers later, Apple still could not give me an iMac with an acceptable screen, and the last two iMacs also had manufacturing defects in the bargain (one had black paint scratched off on the inside of the glass border and the other had a ding in the lower right front corner.) In the end I gave up and managed to get a refund...the whole exercise took from December 2009 to April 2010. I've waited until this recent refresh to try again and with some trepidation I have ordered another iMac. In fact it is ready for me to pick up from the courier depot tomorrow. I hope I don't have to go through the whole replacement fiasco again, but I am not confident when discussions like these are still showing up http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2528347start=15tstart=0 http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=983886 If the Mac mini was just a more capable computer, I would definitely have chosen it over the iMac, just to avoid all the angst that Apple's lack of quality control is giving me. Sorry about the rant, but I hope this information is helpful to you. Cheers Neil On 28/08/2010, at 10:38 AM, John Hatch wrote: I notice a lot of mail about the Mac mini. I am about to upgrade from my Mac book pro (prismo) and was considering either the mini or the iMac with fusion(have to work between win and Mac) and elagato eye TV additions. Would be interested in any pros and cons by others John Sent from my iPad -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Mac mini vers iMac
Hi Rob The problem with my screens was that the yellow tinge was not even across the whole screen. It showed as three flares/blotches of yellow coming up from the bottom increasing in height from left to right. Although calibrating did help a little, because the tingeing/ blotching was so uneven, it did not solve the problem. I should have mentioned that my purchase was a 21.5 iMac. The 27 screens appear to be faring much better this time around while the 21.5 still seems problematic. Cheers Neil On 29/08/2010, at 12:54 PM, Rob Davies wrote: Morning All, I have noticed this issue with iMacs previous and current models, also a lot of LED monitors of recent purchase. But, once monitor has been calibrated it is perfect no tint, cannot fault current 27 iMac once achieved. Reasoning for this is quite simply, colour temperature settings of monitors are set for Northern Hemisphere which use a cooler temperature being Red - Orange- Yellow/Bone as it gets close to a natural tone? Hotter being natural to a blue which for us in Southern Hemisphere is closer to our natural lighting conditions. So, economics of where monitors are to be used is why monitors are such, as is the colour profiles within colorsync and other default colour profiles or software. Monitors used to be sold this way and some professional monitors still are. Another reason as most people have shown through surveys and are not bothered by such a tint, is it is a lot more comfortable to use this way. Just try setting Apple gamma profile to a hotter temperature and see how you feel after an hour or more. Cheers! `RobD... On 29Aug2010, at 12:07 pm, Touchwood wrote: Hi John With the recent refresh of the iMac, its processors, graphics card etc. are now well ahead of the Mac mini. The Mac mini also has the slower 5400 rpm HD vs 7200rpm of the iMac. To get 8GB of RAM into the Mac mini you need to purchase two 4GB Modules as there are only 2 RAM slots, which is a more expensive option than the 4 x 2GB you can achieve with the iMac. By the time you spec up a Mac mini and add the cost of the monitor, you're paying the equivalent of the base iMac and you've got a very underpowered machine by comparison. There is no doubt the Mac mini is a beautiful and elegant little machine...it's just a shame Apple won't come to the party and give it the horse power it needs. Just a word of warning if you decide to go the iMac route. Since the introduction of the LED screen at the end of last year, there is an issue with yellow tinge or blotchy screens. Unfortunately this seems to be a subjective issue...some people don't seem phased by it... for others (like me ;-) ) it is extremely annoying and unacceptable in a computer for which we are paying $2,000. Last December I purchased a new iMac and its screen was bad (yellow blotches), nowhere near the quality of my current G5 iMac. Two screen replacements and two replacement computers later, Apple still could not give me an iMac with an acceptable screen, and the last two iMacs also had manufacturing defects in the bargain (one had black paint scratched off on the inside of the glass border and the other had a ding in the lower right front corner.) In the end I gave up and managed to get a refund...the whole exercise took from December 2009 to April 2010. I've waited until this recent refresh to try again and with some trepidation I have ordered another iMac. In fact it is ready for me to pick up from the courier depot tomorrow. I hope I don't have to go through the whole replacement fiasco again, but I am not confident when discussions like these are still showing up http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa? threadID=2528347start=15tstart=0 http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=983886 If the Mac mini was just a more capable computer, I would definitely have chosen it over the iMac, just to avoid all the angst that Apple's lack of quality control is giving me. Sorry about the rant, but I hope this information is helpful to you. Cheers Neil On 28/08/2010, at 10:38 AM, John Hatch wrote: I notice a lot of mail about the Mac mini. I am about to upgrade from my Mac book pro (prismo) and was considering either the mini or the iMac with fusion(have to work between win and Mac) and elagato eye TV additions. Would be interested in any pros and cons by others John Sent from my iPad -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives -
