4Sale - 13-inch Macbook (Late 2009)

[Gordon Campbell]

Hi WAMUG,
My brother has a Late 2009 Macbook to sell. He bought it here and took
it with him overseas for six months, but doesn't have a need for a
laptop now he's back in Aus. It's in perfect condition and he still
has the box, discs etc. Looking to get $900. Specs below. Get in touch
with him directly if you're interested on campbell...@gmail.com

Intel Core 2 Duo 2.26 GHz
2 GB DDR3 1067 MHz
NVIDIA GeForce 9400M
250 GB hard drive

Cheers,
Gordon



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Re: Home file copy

[Merv Bond]

Clarifying my home network situation wrt my backup issue.

iMac(intel)10.5.8Belkin Wireless Router<–––>Belkin 4PortVoIPRouter
)^
)|
iBookG4PPC10.4.11 WDMyBookWorldEdition(single drive)

<–––> and ^  indicate ethernet connections.
  |

For a first backup of any size the documentation suggests a direct 
ethernet connection between the computer and WDMyBook.


Using this configuration WDMyBook appears in the LH Column of the Finder 
in the Shared area. Clicking on WDMyBook and connecting as admin gives 
two folders, Download and Public. In the Public folder are three more 
folders, Shared Music, Shared Pictures, Shared Videos and I can add to 
this list of folders.


Software that came with the WDMyBook says that:
WD Anywhere Backup automatic backup software allows you to set up 
continuous backup for up to five computers in your network. Select the 
files you want to back up, then set it and forget it; every time you 
save a change it’s automatically backed up.


Has anyone using a WDMyBook also used the Anywhere Backup?

Thanks to Ronni, James, Alastair, and Bob for journeying with me on this 
matter.

Merv

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RE: Mac mini vers iMac

[Crisp, Peter]

There is but one solution to this. 

Get one of each - that's what I intend to do. Using the Mac Mini as the
media device (with further attached external drives 2TB+ if you run out
of capacity) attached to a Full HD Plasma and the 27" imac for more
mundane computer specific tasks (email, office doc work, browsing, photo
managment etc) - and extend the warranty on the imac!.

Regards

Peter..
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John,

1 Mini slightly less powerful than is the iMac

2 Both difficult to put in bigger drives and memory. If you want to  
use your mac as your TV, and think you will want to record several  
programs to hard disk and keep them for some time then you should  
install a bigger hard disk. I have surprised myself with how many TV  
programs I have on my Mini's hard disk to either view at a more  
convenient time, or to assemble in a suite for burning to DVD for  
permanent storage.

3 If screen dies with iMac then you throw away the whole machine  
unless you have extended warranty because new screen fitting costs  
more than a new iMac.

4 You can connect any size and make of screen to a Mini, including  
HDMI equipped TVs. Mini maximum resolution is 2560 by 1600 pixels.  
iMac maximum resolution is  also 2560 by 1600 pixels on an external  
monitor, but no HDMI to connect to a TV screen. You can only connect  
computer monitors to an iMac, unless you buy a TV convertor  
connector. However, most monitors give much better & consistent  
colour compared with most TV screens.

5 iMac has stereo speakers. Mini has simpler speaker, so you will  
probably want to connect Mini optically to an audio amp and speakers,  
especially if you want the 5-channel sound available with HD TV  
program streams. If you connect via copper audio cable the you will  
only get 2-channel audio from your Mini. iMac also has optical audio  
out, if you want 5-channel audio from HD program streams.

6 The Mini is more portable.

7 Can colour calibrate all built-in and attached monitors with both  
Mini and iMac. On Mini can also colour calibrate attached TV screens.  
Hardware calibration much better than using the Monitor panel in  
System Prefs, but you have to buy the calibrator device.

On 28/08/2010, at 10:38 , John Hatch wrote:

> I notice a lot of mail about the Mac mini. I am about to upgrade  
> from my Mac book pro (prismo) and was considering either the mini  
> or the iMac with fusion(have to work between win and Mac) and  
> elagato eye TV additions. Would be interested in any pros and cons  
> by others
>
> John
>
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Ray Forma
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Re: Mac mini vers iMac

[Ray Forma]

John,

1 Mini slightly less powerful than is the iMac

2 Both difficult to put in bigger drives and memory. If you want to  
use your mac as your TV, and think you will want to record several  
programs to hard disk and keep them for some time then you should  
install a bigger hard disk. I have surprised myself with how many TV  
programs I have on my Mini's hard disk to either view at a more  
convenient time, or to assemble in a suite for burning to DVD for  
permanent storage.


3 If screen dies with iMac then you throw away the whole machine  
unless you have extended warranty because new screen fitting costs  
more than a new iMac.


4 You can connect any size and make of screen to a Mini, including  
HDMI equipped TVs. Mini maximum resolution is 2560 by 1600 pixels.  
iMac maximum resolution is  also 2560 by 1600 pixels on an external  
monitor, but no HDMI to connect to a TV screen. You can only connect  
computer monitors to an iMac, unless you buy a TV convertor  
connector. However, most monitors give much better & consistent  
colour compared with most TV screens.


5 iMac has stereo speakers. Mini has simpler speaker, so you will  
probably want to connect Mini optically to an audio amp and speakers,  
especially if you want the 5-channel sound available with HD TV  
program streams. If you connect via copper audio cable the you will  
only get 2-channel audio from your Mini. iMac also has optical audio  
out, if you want 5-channel audio from HD program streams.


6 The Mini is more portable.

7 Can colour calibrate all built-in and attached monitors with both  
Mini and iMac. On Mini can also colour calibrate attached TV screens.  
Hardware calibration much better than using the Monitor panel in  
System Prefs, but you have to buy the calibrator device.


On 28/08/2010, at 10:38 , John Hatch wrote:

I notice a lot of mail about the Mac mini. I am about to upgrade  
from my Mac book pro (prismo) and was considering either the mini  
or the iMac with fusion(have to work between win and Mac) and  
elagato eye TV additions. Would be interested in any pros and cons  
by others


John

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Re: iPad problem

[Wendy S. Austin]

Thank you very much Alexander, I will certainly keep an eye on it.WendyFrom: Alexander Hartner Date: 30 August 2010 12:57:06 AESTTo: WAMUG Mailing List Subject: Re: iPad problemReply-To: WAMUG Mailing List HI Wendy,If  you have more than 16GB of photos synced onto your iPad it goes completely crazy. I reported in to Apple and they are aware of this issue. (See bug 7669663 in Apple Bug Reporter).I ended up only sychronising a selection of iPhoto events. To get it restored, restore you iPad in iTunes and then select only your favourite events.Hope this helpsAlexWendy S Austin211 Bathurst StreetHobart  Tas  7000





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Re: Disk Utility/Repair Disk

[Ronda Brown]

You're welcome Neil,

Repair Disk may be ran on any 'non-boot' from the boot hard drive (there is no 
need to boot off the Install CD/DVD to repair non-boot drives, partitions or 
volumes).
If you have a 'non boot' drive attached, look in Disk Utility > Repair Disk 
panel, highlighting any non-boot volume or hard drive will active the Repair 
Disk option.

I find that if Apple says "Its best to do it this way" I say OK, that's the way 
I will do it  ;-)

Cheers,
Ronni

On 30/08/2010, at 6:53 PM, Neil Houghton wrote:

> Hi Ronni,
> 
> Thanks for that feedback, I had not seen that support document before.
> 
> I perused the article, together with a linked article 
>  - I must admit, I found the articles a 
> little confusing in some regards – on the one hand, as you noted, they are 
> saying that:
> 
>> If the computer is started up from the Mac OS X hard disk (or disk 
>> partition) and Disk Utility finds errors on it, there is not necessarily 
>> anything wrong. Only when started up from the CD should Disk Utility reports 
>> of errors on the Mac OS X hard disk (or disk partition) be considered 
>> accurate. 
> 
> 
> Whereas they also (linked article) note that:
> 
>> In Mac OS X 10.4.3 or later, you can verify your Mac OS X volume while 
>> started from it. This is known as live verification, and can be used in 
>> three different ways.
>> 
>> Option 1: Verify your disk using Disk Utility while started from the startup 
>> disk. To find out how to do this, see this article. Please note that live 
>> verification does not involve any disk repair, so if verification finds 
>> something that should be repaired, start up from your Mac OS X Install disc 
>> and use Disk Utility as described above in "Try Disk Utility.".
>> 
>> 
> I note that they do say to start up from the Mac OS X Install disc to repair, 
> as you cautioned.
> 
> 
> After reading these articles, I will be following your (& Apple’s!) advice in 
> future and only repairing from the install disc.
> 
> 
> Thanks again Ronni.
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> 
> 
> Neil
> -- 
> Neil R. Houghton
> Albany, Western Australia
> Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
> Email: n...@possumology.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> on 30/8/10 3:44 PM, Ronda Brown at ro...@mac.com wrote:
> 
>> Ok Neil,
>> 
>> Firstly, I don't think you are being argumentative here, you have an 
>> inquiring mind similar to my own. I like that in a person ;-)
>> 
>> I've always understood that you always start up your computer from an 
>> Install or Restore disc when using Disk Utility to verify or repair your 
>> startup volume. 
>> Otherwise, you might see some disk error messages 
>>  .
>> 
>> Start up your computer from the Mac OS X Disc when you need to use Disk 
>> Utility to verify the Mac OS X startup disk. (This is the most common use of 
>> Disk Utility.)
>> 
>> If the computer is started up from the Mac OS X hard disk (or disk 
>> partition) and Disk Utility finds errors on it, there is not necessarily 
>> anything wrong. 
>> Only when started up from the DVD/ CD should Disk Utility reports of errors 
>> on the Mac OS X hard disk (or disk partition) be considered accurate.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni.
>> 
>> On 30/08/2010, at 3:28 PM, Neil Houghton wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> OK Ronni,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Now you've got me worried...
>>> 
>>> Recently I ran "Verify disc" on my startup HD and it indicated that a repair
>>> was required - I had not experienced any specific problem - I was just going
>>> to do some software updates and decided to verify the disc (just because it
>>> had been a while since I did it) as well as repair permissions.
>>> 
>>> As I say, I wasn't having problems - but I thought it made sense to repair
>>> the disc before I did!
>>> 
>>> Since I have the drive cloned (thanks SuperDuper) to an attached firewire
>>> drive, the easiest way seemed to be to boot from that and then run disk
>>> repair on the internal drive - which I did. The repair seemed to go fine and
>>> I went ahead with my software updates. I repaired permissions before & after
>>> and also re-verified the disc (just to be sure).
>>> 
>>> Everything seems OK and my clone is now also updated to the current status.
>>> 
>>> The reason I booted from the clone rather than the installation DVD was
>>> purely convenience - the DVD was not to hand and the drive was connected,
>>> ready to go. If I had actually been having problems, I would have dug out
>>> the DVD (in case the problems were also lurking in the clone) - but I wasn't
>>> - so I didn't see a problem.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> So, I guess, I was wondering why you say:
 
 Stuart should NOT be trying to "Repair the iMac's Disk" while started up 
 from
 an External Drive.
 To repair the startup disk in any version of Mac OS X, start up from your 
 Mac
 OS X Install DVD!
 
>>> and, particularly, if there are any potential problems I am risking here?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I supp

Re: Disk Utility/Repair Disk

[Neil Houghton]

Hi Ronni,

Thanks for that feedback, I had not seen that support document before.

I perused the article, together with a linked article
 - I must admit, I found the articles a
little confusing in some regards ­ on the one hand, as you noted, they are
saying that:

> If the computer is started up from the Mac OS X hard disk (or disk partition)
> and Disk Utility finds errors on it, there is not necessarily anything wrong.
> Only when started up from the CD should Disk Utility reports of errors on the
> Mac OS X hard disk (or disk partition) be considered accurate.


Whereas they also (linked article) note that:

> In Mac OS X 10.4.3 or later, you can verify your Mac OS X volume while started
> from it. This is known as live verification, and can be used in three
> different ways.
> 
> Option 1: Verify your disk using Disk Utility while started from the startup
> disk. To find out how to do this, see this article. Please note that live
> verification does not involve any disk repair, so if verification finds
> something that should be repaired, start up from your Mac OS X Install disc
> and use Disk Utility as described above in "Try Disk Utility.".
> 
> 
I note that they do say to start up from the Mac OS X Install disc to
repair, as you cautioned.


After reading these articles, I will be following your (& Apple¹s!) advice
in future and only repairing from the install disc.


Thanks again Ronni.


Cheers



Neil
-- 
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Albany, Western Australia
Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
Email: n...@possumology.com





on 30/8/10 3:44 PM, Ronda Brown at ro...@mac.com wrote:

> Ok Neil,
> 
> Firstly, I don't think you are being argumentative here, you have an inquiring
> mind similar to my own. I like that in a person ;-)
> 
> I've always understood that you always start up your computer from an Install
> or Restore disc when using Disk Utility to verify or repair your startup
> volume. 
> Otherwise, you might see some disk error messages
>  .
> 
> Start up your computer from the Mac OS X Disc when you need to use Disk
> Utility to verify the Mac OS X startup disk. (This is the most common use of
> Disk Utility.)
> 
> If the computer is started up from the Mac OS X hard disk (or disk partition)
> and Disk Utility finds errors on it, there is not necessarily anything wrong.
> Only when started up from the DVD/ CD should Disk Utility reports of errors on
> the Mac OS X hard disk (or disk partition) be considered accurate.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni.
> 
> On 30/08/2010, at 3:28 PM, Neil Houghton wrote:
> 
>> 
>> OK Ronni,
>> 
>> 
>> Now you've got me worried...
>> 
>> Recently I ran "Verify disc" on my startup HD and it indicated that a repair
>> was required - I had not experienced any specific problem - I was just going
>> to do some software updates and decided to verify the disc (just because it
>> had been a while since I did it) as well as repair permissions.
>> 
>> As I say, I wasn't having problems - but I thought it made sense to repair
>> the disc before I did!
>> 
>> Since I have the drive cloned (thanks SuperDuper) to an attached firewire
>> drive, the easiest way seemed to be to boot from that and then run disk
>> repair on the internal drive - which I did. The repair seemed to go fine and
>> I went ahead with my software updates. I repaired permissions before & after
>> and also re-verified the disc (just to be sure).
>> 
>> Everything seems OK and my clone is now also updated to the current status.
>> 
>> The reason I booted from the clone rather than the installation DVD was
>> purely convenience - the DVD was not to hand and the drive was connected,
>> ready to go. If I had actually been having problems, I would have dug out
>> the DVD (in case the problems were also lurking in the clone) - but I wasn't
>> - so I didn't see a problem.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> So, I guess, I was wondering why you say:
>>> 
>>> Stuart should NOT be trying to "Repair the iMac's Disk" while started up
>>> from
>>> an External Drive.
>>> To repair the startup disk in any version of Mac OS X, start up from your
>>> Mac
>>> OS X Install DVD!
>>> 
>> and, particularly, if there are any potential problems I am risking here?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I suppose my rationale here is that running a bootable clone gives you two
>> identical systems - so that if there is a problem with one you just boot
>> from the other - it seems kind of academic which one is housed in the
>> computer and which is housed in an external case.
>> 
>> If I wanted to verify or repair the external drive, I would normally do it
>> when booted from the internal disk - so why not boot from the clone to
>> repair the internal disc.
>> 
>> 
>> Please don't think I'm being argumentative here Ronni, like everyone on the
>> list, I value your expertise and help immensely - I was just wondering what
>> you see as the danger of working from an external clone rather than the
>> install DVD.
>> 
>> 
>> 

Re: Widgets

[Curtis Peter]

Thank you all/both
Regards
Peter
On 30/08/2010, at 3:30 PM, Crisp, Peter wrote:

> 
> Hi Peter, I have Google Desktop (on my Windows m/c) installed and with
> it "Add Gadgets" with a quick search I was able to locate a "Precious
> metal spot prices" widget. It's a freebie in Google desktop but not sure
> if Google Desktop is OSX friendly.
> 
> See how you go.
> 
> Regards
> 
> 
> Peter..
> -Original Message-
> From: wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au [mailto:wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au] On
> Behalf Of Curtis Peter
> Sent: Monday, 30 August 2010 3:19 PM
> To: wamug@wamug.org.au
> Subject: Widgets
> 
> 
> Hi everyone
> Is it possible to search for a particular type of widget?
> For example, I'd like a widget to give me the current Australian Gold
> Price.
> Is this possible?
> I've been to the Apple Dashboard and Widget site but can't seem to be
> able to search it.
> Regards
> Peter
> 
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[Ronda Brown]

Ok Neil,

Firstly, I don't think you are being argumentative here, you have an inquiring 
mind similar to my own. I like that in a person ;-)

I've always understood that you always start up your computer from an Install 
or Restore disc when using Disk Utility to verify or repair your startup 
volume. 
Otherwise, you might see some disk error messages.

Start up your computer from the Mac OS X Disc when you need to use Disk Utility 
to verify the Mac OS X startup disk. (This is the most common use of Disk 
Utility.)

If the computer is started up from the Mac OS X hard disk (or disk partition) 
and Disk Utility finds errors on it, there is not necessarily anything wrong. 
Only when started up from the DVD/ CD should Disk Utility reports of errors on 
the Mac OS X hard disk (or disk partition) be considered accurate.

Cheers,
Ronni.

On 30/08/2010, at 3:28 PM, Neil Houghton wrote:

> 
> OK Ronni,
> 
> 
> Now you've got me worried...
> 
> Recently I ran "Verify disc" on my startup HD and it indicated that a repair
> was required - I had not experienced any specific problem - I was just going
> to do some software updates and decided to verify the disc (just because it
> had been a while since I did it) as well as repair permissions.
> 
> As I say, I wasn't having problems - but I thought it made sense to repair
> the disc before I did!
> 
> Since I have the drive cloned (thanks SuperDuper) to an attached firewire
> drive, the easiest way seemed to be to boot from that and then run disk
> repair on the internal drive - which I did. The repair seemed to go fine and
> I went ahead with my software updates. I repaired permissions before & after
> and also re-verified the disc (just to be sure).
> 
> Everything seems OK and my clone is now also updated to the current status.
> 
> The reason I booted from the clone rather than the installation DVD was
> purely convenience - the DVD was not to hand and the drive was connected,
> ready to go. If I had actually been having problems, I would have dug out
> the DVD (in case the problems were also lurking in the clone) - but I wasn't
> - so I didn't see a problem.
> 
> 
> 
> So, I guess, I was wondering why you say:
>> 
>> Stuart should NOT be trying to "Repair the iMac's Disk" while started up from
>> an External Drive.
>> To repair the startup disk in any version of Mac OS X, start up from your Mac
>> OS X Install DVD!
>> 
> and, particularly, if there are any potential problems I am risking here?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I suppose my rationale here is that running a bootable clone gives you two
> identical systems - so that if there is a problem with one you just boot
> from the other - it seems kind of academic which one is housed in the
> computer and which is housed in an external case.
> 
> If I wanted to verify or repair the external drive, I would normally do it
> when booted from the internal disk - so why not boot from the clone to
> repair the internal disc.
> 
> 
> Please don't think I'm being argumentative here Ronni, like everyone on the
> list, I value your expertise and help immensely - I was just wondering what
> you see as the danger of working from an external clone rather than the
> install DVD.
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> 
> 
> Neil
> -- 
> Neil R. Houghton
> Albany, Western Australia
> Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
> Email: n...@possumology.com
> 
> 
> 
> on 30/8/10 2:09 PM, Ronda Brown at ro...@mac.com wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Exactly Andrew.
>> 
>> Stuart should NOT be trying to "Repair the iMac's Disk" while started up from
>> an External Drive.
>> To repair the startup disk in any version of Mac OS X, start up from your Mac
>> OS X Install DVD!
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>> 
>> On 30/08/2010, at 1:50 PM, Andrew McColl wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Are you trying to repair the volume you have booted off (the external 
>>> drive)?
>>> Or are you trying to repair the internal drive of the computer?  If you've
>>> got two volumes that are both labelled Macintosh HD you need to distinguish
>>> between them.  Because Disk Utility usually won't let you repair the Volume
>>> that you're booting off.
>>> 
>>> Quoting bred...@highway1.biz:
>>> 
 
 Hi there
 
 Was trying to repair the disk of one of our Intel iMacs with Disk Utility
 having started up from an external hard drive.
 
 I was able to repair the permissions and verify the disk.  However when I
 tried to repair the disk I got this error message: "Disk Utility stopped
 'Macintosh HD'.  Could
 not unmount disk".
 
 Please explain and make suggestions?
 
 Stuart Breden
 
 
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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RE: Widgets

[Crisp, Peter]

Hi Peter, I have Google Desktop (on my Windows m/c) installed and with
it "Add Gadgets" with a quick search I was able to locate a "Precious
metal spot prices" widget. It's a freebie in Google desktop but not sure
if Google Desktop is OSX friendly.

See how you go.

Regards


Peter..
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From: wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au [mailto:wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au] On
Behalf Of Curtis Peter
Sent: Monday, 30 August 2010 3:19 PM
To: wamug@wamug.org.au
Subject: Widgets


Hi everyone
Is it possible to search for a particular type of widget?
For example, I'd like a widget to give me the current Australian Gold
Price.
Is this possible?
I've been to the Apple Dashboard and Widget site but can't seem to be
able to search it.
Regards
Peter


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Re: Disk Utility/Repair Disk

[Neil Houghton]

OK Ronni,


Now you've got me worried...

Recently I ran "Verify disc" on my startup HD and it indicated that a repair
was required - I had not experienced any specific problem - I was just going
to do some software updates and decided to verify the disc (just because it
had been a while since I did it) as well as repair permissions.

As I say, I wasn't having problems - but I thought it made sense to repair
the disc before I did!

Since I have the drive cloned (thanks SuperDuper) to an attached firewire
drive, the easiest way seemed to be to boot from that and then run disk
repair on the internal drive - which I did. The repair seemed to go fine and
I went ahead with my software updates. I repaired permissions before & after
and also re-verified the disc (just to be sure).

Everything seems OK and my clone is now also updated to the current status.

The reason I booted from the clone rather than the installation DVD was
purely convenience - the DVD was not to hand and the drive was connected,
ready to go. If I had actually been having problems, I would have dug out
the DVD (in case the problems were also lurking in the clone) - but I wasn't
- so I didn't see a problem.



So, I guess, I was wondering why you say:
> 
> Stuart should NOT be trying to "Repair the iMac's Disk" while started up from
> an External Drive.
> To repair the startup disk in any version of Mac OS X, start up from your Mac
> OS X Install DVD!
> 
and, particularly, if there are any potential problems I am risking here?




I suppose my rationale here is that running a bootable clone gives you two
identical systems - so that if there is a problem with one you just boot
from the other - it seems kind of academic which one is housed in the
computer and which is housed in an external case.

If I wanted to verify or repair the external drive, I would normally do it
when booted from the internal disk - so why not boot from the clone to
repair the internal disc.


Please don't think I'm being argumentative here Ronni, like everyone on the
list, I value your expertise and help immensely - I was just wondering what
you see as the danger of working from an external clone rather than the
install DVD.


Cheers



Neil
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Albany, Western Australia
Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
Email: n...@possumology.com



on 30/8/10 2:09 PM, Ronda Brown at ro...@mac.com wrote:

> 
> Exactly Andrew.
> 
> Stuart should NOT be trying to "Repair the iMac's Disk" while started up from
> an External Drive.
> To repair the startup disk in any version of Mac OS X, start up from your Mac
> OS X Install DVD!
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
>  
> On 30/08/2010, at 1:50 PM, Andrew McColl wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Are you trying to repair the volume you have booted off (the external drive)?
>> Or are you trying to repair the internal drive of the computer?  If you've
>> got two volumes that are both labelled Macintosh HD you need to distinguish
>> between them.  Because Disk Utility usually won't let you repair the Volume
>> that you're booting off.
>> 
>> Quoting bred...@highway1.biz:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi there
>>> 
>>> Was trying to repair the disk of one of our Intel iMacs with Disk Utility
>>> having started up from an external hard drive.
>>> 
>>> I was able to repair the permissions and verify the disk.  However when I
>>> tried to repair the disk I got this error message: "Disk Utility stopped
>>> 'Macintosh HD'.  Could
>>> not unmount disk".
>>> 
>>> Please explain and make suggestions?
>>> 
>>> Stuart Breden
>>> 
>>> 
> 





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Re: Widgets

[Ronda Brown]

On 30/08/2010, at 3:19 PM, Curtis Peter wrote:

> 
> Hi everyone
> Is it possible to search for a particular type of widget?
> For example, I'd like a widget to give me the current Australian Gold Price.
> Is this possible?
> I've been to the Apple Dashboard and Widget site but can't seem to be able to 
> search it.
> Regards
> Peter

Hi Peter,

I guess you checked this one out.


Cheers,
Ronni

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[Crisp, Peter]

An alternative suggestion is if you can access a Windows machine, slip
it in and it should play as WAV is a Windows based file type -
notwithstanding iTunes' capability with wav files.

Regards

Peter

Macbook 13.3" (Snow Leopard) + 2 Macbooks 13.3" (Leopard)

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On 30/08/2010, at 2:57 PM, Michael Hawkins wrote:

> 
> I have been sent a disc, some contents of which are rtf format and
some wav
> format.
> 
> I can read the rtf items but cannot play the wav items.
> 
> I have tried latest versions of iTunes, QuickTime, QuickTime 7, VLC,
Rip It
> and Handbrake, without any success.
> 
> The disc also contains content in html format. Whenever I click on
what
> looks like a link, an opaque black blind covers the screen and I get a
> message telling me to turn the computer off by pressing the power
button.
> 
> Any suggestions, before I send the disc back?
> 
> MacBook Pro 17"
> OS 10.6.4
> 2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
> 4GB 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Michael Hawkins.


Hi Michael,

Sounds a bit "iffy". iTunes can play wav files.

What you are experiencing when you receive the message to turn your
computer off by pressing the power button is a "Kernel Panic".
Kernel panics are usually caused by a hardware problem - frequently RAM,
a USB device or a Firewire device. 

I'm not sure here, but I think I would be asking for another disc? Or at
least some more information about the items on the disc.
 
Cheers,
Ronni

17" MacBook Pro  Intel Core i7
2.66GHz / 4GB / 1067 MHz DDR3 / 500GB Serial ATA Drive @ 7200rpm

OS X 10.6.3 Snow Leopard
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Widgets

[Curtis Peter]

Hi everyone
Is it possible to search for a particular type of widget?
For example, I'd like a widget to give me the current Australian Gold Price.
Is this possible?
I've been to the Apple Dashboard and Widget site but can't seem to be able to 
search it.
Regards
Peter


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Re: Wav files

[James / Hans Kunz]

do you have 'flip for mac' installed?? its free for playback only
 it will appear as a component thus quicktime is accepting wma/wmv  
files

James

On 30/08/2010, at 14:57, Michael Hawkins wrote:



I have been sent a disc, some contents of which are rtf format and  
some wav

format.

I can read the rtf items but cannot play the wav items.

I have tried latest versions of iTunes, QuickTime, QuickTime 7, VLC,  
Rip It

and Handbrake, without any success.

The disc also contains content in html format. Whenever I click on  
what

looks like a link, an opaque black blind covers the screen and I get a
message telling me to turn the computer off by pressing the power  
button.


Any suggestions, before I send the disc back?

MacBook Pro 17"
OS 10.6.4
2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
4GB 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM

Thank you,

Michael Hawkins.





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Re: Wav files

[Ronda Brown]

On 30/08/2010, at 2:57 PM, Michael Hawkins wrote:

> 
> I have been sent a disc, some contents of which are rtf format and some wav
> format.
> 
> I can read the rtf items but cannot play the wav items.
> 
> I have tried latest versions of iTunes, QuickTime, QuickTime 7, VLC, Rip It
> and Handbrake, without any success.
> 
> The disc also contains content in html format. Whenever I click on what
> looks like a link, an opaque black blind covers the screen and I get a
> message telling me to turn the computer off by pressing the power button.
> 
> Any suggestions, before I send the disc back?
> 
> MacBook Pro 17"
> OS 10.6.4
> 2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
> 4GB 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Michael Hawkins.


Hi Michael,

Sounds a bit "iffy". iTunes can play wav files.

What you are experiencing when you receive the message to turn your computer 
off by pressing the power button is a "Kernel Panic".
Kernel panics are usually caused by a hardware problem – frequently RAM, a USB 
device or a Firewire device. 

I'm not sure here, but I think I would be asking for another disc? Or at least 
some more information about the items on the disc.
 
Cheers,
Ronni

17" MacBook Pro  Intel Core i7
2.66GHz / 4GB / 1067 MHz DDR3 / 500GB Serial ATA Drive @ 7200rpm

OS X 10.6.3 Snow Leopard
Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)







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Wav files

[Michael Hawkins]

I have been sent a disc, some contents of which are rtf format and some wav
format.

I can read the rtf items but cannot play the wav items.

I have tried latest versions of iTunes, QuickTime, QuickTime 7, VLC, Rip It
and Handbrake, without any success.

The disc also contains content in html format. Whenever I click on what
looks like a link, an opaque black blind covers the screen and I get a
message telling me to turn the computer off by pressing the power button.

Any suggestions, before I send the disc back?

MacBook Pro 17"
OS 10.6.4
2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
4GB 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM

Thank you,

Michael Hawkins.





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