Re: Word 2011 for Macintosh

[Pete Smith]

G'day all.

I haven't moved from Office 2008 to 2011 so  I'm unaware of what problems there 
are.

We use only MS Office at work (2003!!!) and I have found heaps of help from 
Microsoft MVP (Most Valuable Professionals) sites. The following may help but I 
actually haven't used this specific site before. (I've learnt a lot of my Word 
stuff from Shauna Kelly at )

1.  

2.   This is a link to virtually all MVPs.

3.  (not there is "l" at the end of 
address)

MVPs are generally volunteers, not Microsoft employed.

Anyway, it may help, or it may not in the current circumstances. I would 
recommend exploring them, though, for specific ways to do certain things: e.g. 
ListBullets that you make up and they wont change later on!

Hope this helps

Merry Christmas
Pete Smith

iMac 2.8 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
4GB 800 MHz DDR2 SDRAM
750GB Hdrive OS X 10.6.2

On 24/12/2010, at 13:10 PM, John Daniels wrote:

> 
> Hi folks
> I downloaded "Bean" which is free and performs all that I need.
> Cheers
> John
> On 24/12/2010, at 12:49 PM, Bill Parker wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Thansk Mike,
>> 
>> 
>> Confirming what I have found as well.
>> 
>> 
>> Bill
>> On 24/12/2010, at 12:43 PM, Michael Hawkins wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi Bill,
>>> 
>>> I recently down-graded from Office 2004 to Office 2011, and I'm pulling my
>>> hair out in frustration. It is so cumbersome, so bureaucratic and help is
>>> so unavailable.
>>> 
>>> I've ordered a book from bookdepositary.co.uk, the name of which escapes
>>> me but it's the only one available to buy and it won't be published until
>>> January.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards and Merry Christmas,
>>> 
>>> Michael Hawkins.
>>> 
>>> On 24/12/10 11:36 AM, "Bill Parker"  wrote:
>>> 
 
 I have been trying without success to find a decent help site for Word
 2011.   Mactopia is poor compared to its counterpart for PC.
 
 
 Any ideas?
 
 
 Bill
 
 
 
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Re: iCal not syncing with MobileMe

[Adrian Skehan]

Good afternoon and compliments of the season all,

I also found that iPhoto Calendars wont function properly until iCal has been 
sorted.


Regards,

Adrian
adrianske...@me.com

On 23/12/2010, at 11:42 PM, Tim Law wrote:

> 
> I've resolved this.
> 
> You have to go into iCal preferences and create a new Account. 
> Then enter your MobileMe email address and follow the rest of the prompts. 
> The Calendar data then populate iCal and you get back to normal. Problem 
> resolved. 
> 
> Apple upgraded Calendar on MobileMe and when I dug deeply tonight, I found a 
> few people are struggling with the same issue if they are syncing iCal from 
> MobileMe and have upgraded their MobileMe Calendar as requested by Apple. 
> 
> Tim
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 23/12/2010, at 9:28 AM, Tim Law wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> iCal on my Mac Mini running 10.6.5 has stopped showing any calendar data.  I 
>> 'think' I have viewed iCal on the Mac Mini after I upgraded the MobileMe 
>> calendar to the new version, but maybe this is the first time and I have 
>> come across a glitch. 
>> 
>> I CAN view the data if I log onto the Calendar at MobileMe, and
>> I CAN view the data on my iPhone using Calendar.
>> This means the data is not lost, just not visible on iCal, IMHO. 
>> 
>> 
>> I have reset the iCal sync in System preferences to replace all calendar 
>> data on the Mac Mini from MobileMe.
>> I have followed the instructions at http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4038 which 
>> included quitting iCal and reopening. 
>> In iCal, I cannot see the names of the two calendars I normally have listed. 
>> 
>> I'm not game to add something to iCal and try to sync, in case it wipes out 
>> the MobileMe data.
>> I use Time Machine to back up my data, and hope it stores the iCal data if 
>> all goes pear shaped. 
>> 
>> I am thinking iCal has a problem; is there a way of resetting it all without 
>> risking data?
>> 
>> Ta
>> 
>> Tim
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Re: Word 2011 for Macintosh

[John Daniels]

Hi folks
I downloaded "Bean" which is free and performs all that I need.
Cheers
John
On 24/12/2010, at 12:49 PM, Bill Parker wrote:

> 
> Thansk Mike,
> 
> 
> Confirming what I have found as well.
> 
> 
> Bill
> On 24/12/2010, at 12:43 PM, Michael Hawkins wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Hi Bill,
>> 
>> I recently down-graded from Office 2004 to Office 2011, and I'm pulling my
>> hair out in frustration. It is so cumbersome, so bureaucratic and help is
>> so unavailable.
>> 
>> I've ordered a book from bookdepositary.co.uk, the name of which escapes
>> me but it's the only one available to buy and it won't be published until
>> January.
>> 
>> 
>> Regards and Merry Christmas,
>> 
>> Michael Hawkins.
>> 
>> On 24/12/10 11:36 AM, "Bill Parker"  wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> I have been trying without success to find a decent help site for Word
>>> 2011.   Mactopia is poor compared to its counterpart for PC.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Any ideas?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Bill
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Dr Bill Parker
>>> ³The greatest enemy of the truth is not the lie  deliberate,
>>> contrived, and dishonest  but the myth  persistent, pervasive, and
>>> unrealistic.²
>>> John F. Kennedy
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Re: Word 2011 for Macintosh

[Bill Parker]

Thansk Mike,


Confirming what I have found as well.


Bill
On 24/12/2010, at 12:43 PM, Michael Hawkins wrote:



Hi Bill,

I recently down-graded from Office 2004 to Office 2011, and I'm  
pulling my
hair out in frustration. It is so cumbersome, so bureaucratic and  
help is

so unavailable.

I've ordered a book from bookdepositary.co.uk, the name of which  
escapes
me but it's the only one available to buy and it won't be published  
until

January.


Regards and Merry Christmas,

Michael Hawkins.

On 24/12/10 11:36 AM, "Bill Parker"  wrote:



I have been trying without success to find a decent help site for  
Word

2011.   Mactopia is poor compared to its counterpart for PC.


Any ideas?


Bill



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Re: Word 2011 for Macintosh

[Michael Hawkins]

Hi Bill,

I recently down-graded from Office 2004 to Office 2011, and I'm pulling my
hair out in frustration. It is so cumbersome, so bureaucratic and help is
so unavailable.

I've ordered a book from bookdepositary.co.uk, the name of which escapes
me but it's the only one available to buy and it won't be published until
January.


Regards and Merry Christmas,

Michael Hawkins.

On 24/12/10 11:36 AM, "Bill Parker"  wrote:

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>I have been trying without success to find a decent help site for Word
>2011.   Mactopia is poor compared to its counterpart for PC.
>
>
>Any ideas?
>
>
>Bill
>
>
>
>Dr Bill Parker
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Word 2011 for Macintosh

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I have been trying without success to find a decent help site for Word  
2011.   Mactopia is poor compared to its counterpart for PC.



Any ideas?


Bill



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Re: Slow websites (Fixed)

[Alexander Hartner]

Hi all, 

Thanks for all your responses. I figured out what the problem was.

A while back my router reported a security issue:

Dec 21 17:43:26   gateway user.info kernel: HackAttack: [Trojan Scan] TCP 
packet from [ppp_0_8_35_1] 209.62.182.33:80 to MYIPADDRESS:1243 

Being a little bit too paranoid I added it to my firewall to block any traffic 
from that IP address. 

As it turns out this IP address belongs to doubleclick.net which is referenced 
by both websites in such a way that when the site cannot be accessed the entire 
page is not loaded (or loaded very very slowly).

To fix this issue I added a separate rule to allow traffic to the external IP 
address on port 80 as this is the port specified on the websites. This will 
allow any requests coming from my network to the ip address trough on port 80. 
This fixed access to the websites. However I still didn't want to see all this 
adverts and be subject to all kinds of analysis by doubleclick.net. To block 
all adds I added the URL to my URL black list which denied all requests to a 
specific URL. 

Now the page loads fine as it is presented with a access denied page when 
trying to load any adverts from doubleclick.net. This is immediate, so I don't 
have to wait for the request for the ads to timeout and I still don't see any 
ads.

All it good again. Thanks for your help.

Alex


On 23 Dec 2010, at 15:07, Alexander Hartner wrote:

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> Is it just me or are these websites really slow today:
> 
> http://www.perthnow.com.au/
> http://www.news.com.au/
> 
> Most other websites are fine and load fast but these two for some reason seem 
> very very slow. Several minutes to load. I get the header, but not the 
> complete page. Is anybody else experiencing similar issues or is this 
> something on my end.
> 
> Alex
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Re: Slow websites

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On 23/12/2010, at 3:07 PM, Alexander Hartner wrote:

> 
> Is it just me or are these websites really slow today:
> 
> http://www.perthnow.com.au/
> http://www.news.com.au/
> 
> Most other websites are fine and load fast but these two for some reason seem 
> very very slow. Several minutes to load. I get the header, but not the 
> complete page. Is anybody else experiencing similar issues or is this 
> something on my end.
> 
> Alex
> 

Loading fine here Alex. Foxtel cable (Telstra).


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Re: iCal not syncing with MobileMe

[Tim Law]

I've resolved this.

You have to go into iCal preferences and create a new Account. 
Then enter your MobileMe email address and follow the rest of the prompts. 
The Calendar data then populate iCal and you get back to normal. Problem 
resolved. 

Apple upgraded Calendar on MobileMe and when I dug deeply tonight, I found a 
few people are struggling with the same issue if they are syncing iCal from 
MobileMe and have upgraded their MobileMe Calendar as requested by Apple. 

Tim




On 23/12/2010, at 9:28 AM, Tim Law wrote:

> 
> Hi,
> 
> iCal on my Mac Mini running 10.6.5 has stopped showing any calendar data.  I 
> 'think' I have viewed iCal on the Mac Mini after I upgraded the MobileMe 
> calendar to the new version, but maybe this is the first time and I have come 
> across a glitch. 
> 
> I CAN view the data if I log onto the Calendar at MobileMe, and
> I CAN view the data on my iPhone using Calendar.
> This means the data is not lost, just not visible on iCal, IMHO. 
> 
> 
> I have reset the iCal sync in System preferences to replace all calendar data 
> on the Mac Mini from MobileMe.
> I have followed the instructions at http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4038 which 
> included quitting iCal and reopening. 
> In iCal, I cannot see the names of the two calendars I normally have listed. 
> 
> I'm not game to add something to iCal and try to sync, in case it wipes out 
> the MobileMe data.
> I use Time Machine to back up my data, and hope it stores the iCal data if 
> all goes pear shaped. 
> 
> I am thinking iCal has a problem; is there a way of resetting it all without 
> risking data?
> 
> Ta
> 
> Tim
> 
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Re: Hidden: theft tracking software for your laptop

[Tim Law]

Site is back up now.

https://hiddenapp.com/tracking/



On 23/12/2010, at 5:12 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:

> 
> 
> On 23/12/2010, at 4:10 PM, Kyle Kreusch wrote:
> 
>> Looks interesting, but they are having some problems at the moment.
>> 
>> --
>> Regards Kyle
>> -
>> Kyle Kreusch: - This E-Mail Was Dictated Using MacSpeech Dictate, [i]
>> -
>> Check Out My New Website For Articles And Other Great information.
>> Website: http://kylekreusch.co.cc/
>> -
> 
> Yes, their site is very busy with everyone downloading it at the moment, so a 
> few delays,..lol.
> I'l try it later and see if it's picked up then,..lol.
> 
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> Daniel
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Merry Christmas from WAMUG Committee

[Pete Smith]

To all WAMUGGERS.

The WAMUG committee would like to wish you all a very happy Christmas and New 
Year.

We hope you all have a safe and festive time and may 2011 bring you joy and 
fulfilment - and plenty of mac stuff!!

Best wishes,

The WAMUG Committee.

P.S. Don't forget - there's no monthly meeting in January - see you 1 February 
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Re: Hidden: theft tracking software for your laptop

[S Beach]

There is another free option called Prey too http://preyproject.com/

Regards

Shayne


On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 5:12 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:

>
>
> On 23/12/2010, at 4:10 PM, Kyle Kreusch wrote:
>
> > Looks interesting, but they are having some problems at the moment.
> >
> > --
> > Regards Kyle
> >
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> >
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> > Website: http://kylekreusch.co.cc/
> >
> -
>
> Yes, their site is very busy with everyone downloading it at the moment, so
> a few delays,..lol.
> I'l try it later and see if it's picked up then,..lol.
>
> Kind Regards
> Daniel
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Re: Tool to measure data use on home network to individual connections

[S Beach]

Hi TIm

A possible option is to use the  OpenDNS service (opendns.org). I have
posted on the security benefits of this previously but they also have a
logging service. It won't tell you which computer in the house is the
culprit but it will tell you where all the data is coming from (or going).
It is particularly useful for seeing the data usage sorted by volume (sites
with the highest data volume usage for your router IP address).

I'm pretty sure you can do all of that with a free account and more besides.

Regards

Shayne


On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 6:35 PM, David Choy  wrote:

>
> HI Tim
>
> I tried looking for this too for a client of mine. You're right, it's
> hard to find anything that really will test how much data they are
> using. In my search I didn't find anything really useful to monitor
> usage.
>
>  One other alternative would be to buy a prepaid wireless modem (eg
> Vivid wireless, or any of the major telcos have one these days) and
> they can all use this second network and you can see if it's the kids
> that are responsible.
> eg. http://www.vividwireless.com.au/get-it-now/devices/vivifi
>  Or you can do what your neighbour did and get them all wireless sticks.
>
> I disagree with Kyle on gaming not chewing up data. It really depends
> on the game, I was heavy into first-person shooters for a few months
> and found that my data usage went up at least 5gb, and dropped back
> once I stopped. With a few kids all doing the same thing I can imagine
> it would chew through your data allowance, and remember all the online
> games also need whopping big updates fairly regularly, otherwise they
> won't let you join online with other players.
>
> I also doubt it would be just two hours use, I would bet it would be a
> heck of alot more on the weekends.
>
>
> Dave
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 5:34 PM, Tim Law  wrote:
> > Thanks Kyle,
> > I appreciate your thoughts.
> > The difficulty is that none of us understand where the data is going. I
> > agree YouTube clips are potential culprits as they seem to watch the
> replays
> > of other players Starcraft games and they last half an hour or so each.
> But
> > without evidence of how much data one of these sessions consumes, none of
> us
> > can quantify the data used, and the user cannot understand how it could
> > possibly have been them. So it's hard to hold them to account.
> > My neighbours philosophy worked. He saw his kids more, then they got paid
> > jobs and they are much more discerning with their data use, nicer people
> and
> > less addicted to screens.
> > Thanks again for your thoughts about the technical solution, or lack of.
> It
> > mirrors my own searching and IMHO this is a gap in app design that would
> > fill a need in family networking environments.
> > A few months ago I upgraded from 12gb plan to 25Gb. I'm not going to the
> > next level without as you say, a cash contribution.
> > Ta
> > Tim
> >
> >
> >
> > On 23/12/2010, at 2:55 PM, Kyle Kreusch wrote:
> >
> > Hi, Tim
> >>
> >> I have 5 Mac devices, two PC laptops and occasionally an Xbox, that are
> >> connected via ethernet or wifi to my home network and to the internet
> >> through Bigpond Cable.
> >>
> >> I am trying to determine where the main data munchers are, or as least
> to
> >> confirm my suspicions that it is the PC laptops with attached 17 and
> 21yo
> >> sons playing Starcraft etc. !!
> >
> >
> > I'll be completely honest with you I don't think it's gaining that's
> causing
> > the problems as in the grand scheme of things gaming does not use that
> much
> > data.
> > My Experience, when I tested my brother on his Sony PlayStation 3 he was
> > using anywhere between 90 to 150 MB her two-hour gaming and eventually I
> > found out that the usage hole was YouTube.
> > Some things that can cause unexpected chunks of usage data are, automatic
> > software updates (Windows, Mac) I don't normally recommend turning these
> off
> > as most users forget to update their computers and I recommend you update
> > and patch your computer immediately especially in the case of Windows (I
> > believe security patches come out on the first week of every month).
> > So we have software updates from computers, gaming consoles. Streaming
> video
> > from all the major Australian TV networks and other sources like
> > http://live.twit.tv/
> > As I mentioned earlier YouTube (You watch three videos and on average you
> > have already downloaded 150 to 200 MB that's not even taking account of
> > higher quality videos that YouTube now have available so those 10 minute
> > clips can eat into your data very quickly specially if they close the
> window
> > and come back and watch the same video again later)
> > Then you have the other suspects P2P and BitTorrent
> >
> >> I've not been able to find any software that is effective at monitoring
> >> data traffic to individual machines. WebSpy SOHO looks like it might do
> the
> >> job, but is still in development and doesn't work on OSX properly y

Re: Tool to measure data use on home network to individual connections

[David Choy]

HI Tim

I tried looking for this too for a client of mine. You're right, it's
hard to find anything that really will test how much data they are
using. In my search I didn't find anything really useful to monitor
usage.

 One other alternative would be to buy a prepaid wireless modem (eg
Vivid wireless, or any of the major telcos have one these days) and
they can all use this second network and you can see if it's the kids
that are responsible.
eg. http://www.vividwireless.com.au/get-it-now/devices/vivifi
 Or you can do what your neighbour did and get them all wireless sticks.

I disagree with Kyle on gaming not chewing up data. It really depends
on the game, I was heavy into first-person shooters for a few months
and found that my data usage went up at least 5gb, and dropped back
once I stopped. With a few kids all doing the same thing I can imagine
it would chew through your data allowance, and remember all the online
games also need whopping big updates fairly regularly, otherwise they
won't let you join online with other players.

I also doubt it would be just two hours use, I would bet it would be a
heck of alot more on the weekends.


Dave


On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 5:34 PM, Tim Law  wrote:
> Thanks Kyle,
> I appreciate your thoughts.
> The difficulty is that none of us understand where the data is going. I
> agree YouTube clips are potential culprits as they seem to watch the replays
> of other players Starcraft games and they last half an hour or so each. But
> without evidence of how much data one of these sessions consumes, none of us
> can quantify the data used, and the user cannot understand how it could
> possibly have been them. So it's hard to hold them to account.
> My neighbours philosophy worked. He saw his kids more, then they got paid
> jobs and they are much more discerning with their data use, nicer people and
> less addicted to screens.
> Thanks again for your thoughts about the technical solution, or lack of. It
> mirrors my own searching and IMHO this is a gap in app design that would
> fill a need in family networking environments.
> A few months ago I upgraded from 12gb plan to 25Gb. I'm not going to the
> next level without as you say, a cash contribution.
> Ta
> Tim
>
>
>
> On 23/12/2010, at 2:55 PM, Kyle Kreusch wrote:
>
> Hi, Tim
>>
>> I have 5 Mac devices, two PC laptops and occasionally an Xbox, that are
>> connected via ethernet or wifi to my home network and to the internet
>> through Bigpond Cable.
>>
>> I am trying to determine where the main data munchers are, or as least to
>> confirm my suspicions that it is the PC laptops with attached 17 and 21yo
>> sons playing Starcraft etc. !!
>
>
> I'll be completely honest with you I don't think it's gaining that's causing
> the problems as in the grand scheme of things gaming does not use that much
> data.
> My Experience, when I tested my brother on his Sony PlayStation 3 he was
> using anywhere between 90 to 150 MB her two-hour gaming and eventually I
> found out that the usage hole was YouTube.
> Some things that can cause unexpected chunks of usage data are, automatic
> software updates (Windows, Mac) I don't normally recommend turning these off
> as most users forget to update their computers and I recommend you update
> and patch your computer immediately especially in the case of Windows (I
> believe security patches come out on the first week of every month).
> So we have software updates from computers, gaming consoles. Streaming video
> from all the major Australian TV networks and other sources like
> http://live.twit.tv/
> As I mentioned earlier YouTube (You watch three videos and on average you
> have already downloaded 150 to 200 MB that's not even taking account of
> higher quality videos that YouTube now have available so those 10 minute
> clips can eat into your data very quickly specially if they close the window
> and come back and watch the same video again later)
> Then you have the other suspects P2P and BitTorrent
>
>> I've not been able to find any software that is effective at monitoring
>> data traffic to individual machines. WebSpy SOHO looks like it might do the
>> job, but is still in development and doesn't work on OSX properly yet.
>
> As I looked into this several years ago on Whirlpool and other places. most
> software packages were ineffective. Most people that are doing this on their
> home networks are using a Linux Box that they have built themselves as most
> of the software can only detect data that is going through that
> machine. The Linux Box would go between their modem/router and ethernet
> switch OR wireless access point.
>
>> I would have thought routers would have logged this data, and an app could
>> be made to compile this, but apparently it's not that simple.
>
> I can tell you I don't think there's any consumer modem/router or switches
> that can do this. I believe in a high-end network they would do something
> similar as mentioned above it would either be a dedicated serve

Re: Tool to measure data use on home network to individual connections

[Tim Law]

Thanks Kyle,

I appreciate your thoughts. 

The difficulty is that none of us understand where the data is going. I agree 
YouTube clips are potential culprits as they seem to watch the replays of other 
players Starcraft games and they last half an hour or so each. But without 
evidence of how much data one of these sessions consumes, none of us can 
quantify the data used, and the user cannot understand how it could possibly 
have been them. So it's hard to hold them to account. 

My neighbours philosophy worked. He saw his kids more, then they got paid jobs 
and they are much more discerning with their data use, nicer people and less 
addicted to screens. 

Thanks again for your thoughts about the technical solution, or lack of. It 
mirrors my own searching and IMHO this is a gap in app design that would fill a 
need in family networking environments. 

A few months ago I upgraded from 12gb plan to 25Gb. I'm not going to the next 
level without as you say, a cash contribution. 

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> Hi, Tim
> 
> I have 5 Mac devices, two PC laptops and occasionally an Xbox, that are 
> connected via ethernet or wifi to my home network and to the internet through 
> Bigpond Cable.
> 
> I am trying to determine where the main data munchers are, or as least to 
> confirm my suspicions that it is the PC laptops with attached 17 and 21yo 
> sons playing Starcraft etc. !!
> 
> 
> I'll be completely honest with you I don't think it's gaining that's causing 
> the problems as in the grand scheme of things gaming does not use that much 
> data.
> 
> My Experience, when I tested my brother on his Sony PlayStation 3 he was 
> using anywhere between 90 to 150 MB her two-hour gaming and eventually I 
> found out that the usage hole was YouTube.
> 
> Some things that can cause unexpected chunks of usage data are, automatic 
> software updates (Windows, Mac) I don't normally recommend turning these off 
> as most users forget to update their computers and I recommend you update and 
> patch your computer immediately especially in the case of Windows (I believe 
> security patches come out on the first week of every month).
> 
> So we have software updates from computers, gaming consoles. Streaming video 
> from all the major Australian TV networks and other sources like 
> http://live.twit.tv/ 
> 
> As I mentioned earlier YouTube (You watch three videos and on average you 
> have already downloaded 150 to 200 MB that's not even taking account of 
> higher quality videos that YouTube now have available so those 10 minute 
> clips can eat into your data very quickly specially if they close the window 
> and come back and watch the same video again later) 
> 
> Then you have the other suspects P2P and BitTorrent
> 
> 
> I've not been able to find any software that is effective at monitoring data 
> traffic to individual machines. WebSpy SOHO looks like it might do the job, 
> but is still in development and doesn't work on OSX properly yet.
> 
> As I looked into this several years ago on Whirlpool and other places. most 
> software packages were ineffective. Most people that are doing this on their 
> home networks are using a Linux Box that they have built themselves as most 
> of the software can only detect data that is going through that machine. The 
> Linux Box would go between their modem/router and ethernet switch OR wireless 
> access point.
> 
> 
> I would have thought routers would have logged this data, and an app could be 
> made to compile this, but apparently it's not that simple.
> 
> I can tell you I don't think there's any consumer modem/router or switches 
> that can do this. I believe in a high-end network they would do something 
> similar as mentioned above it would either be a dedicated server OR a Switche 
> that had this capability built-in (is that even possible) OR some kind of a 
> Soft Appliance. (I think that's the correct term)
> 
> 
> BTW, my neighbour solved this issue with a password change on the router, and 
> gifting his three children wireless sticks with one month of data on it. 
> After that, they paid for their own!
> 
>  I would not go that far as it would be completely totally the most expensive 
> Internet that you can get here in Australia I would talk to your kids/young 
> adult's and explain to them you are hitting your monthly usage quota.
> 
> Either try to get them to lower their usage or offer them the option to pay 
> the difference and upgrade your usage allowance. As my younger brother 
> increased his usage I suggested to my dad that I would pay the difference to 
> get the upgrade to the monthly download allowance  as I was using more than 
> half the allocated usage at the time. now we can't even come close to 
> reaching the limit some months
> 
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Re: Hidden: theft tracking software for your laptop

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On 23/12/2010, at 4:10 PM, Kyle Kreusch wrote:

> Looks interesting, but they are having some problems at the moment.
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Yes, their site is very busy with everyone downloading it at the moment, so a 
few delays,..lol.
I'l try it later and see if it's picked up then,..lol.

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> Is it just me or are these websites really slow today:
> 
> http://www.perthnow.com.au/
> http://www.news.com.au/
> 
> Most other websites are fine and load fast but these two for some reason seem 
> very very slow. Several minutes to load. I get the header, but not the 
> complete page. Is anybody else experiencing similar issues or is this 
> something on my end.
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Loads fairly quickly for me. Am running off an iinet connection.

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i'm with iinet...James

On 23/12/2010, at 16:17, Alexander Hartner wrote:


Are you guys with IINET ?


On 23 Dec 2010, at 15:57, James / Hans Kunz wrote:

less than 15s on mine with 2.8 mb/s & safari 503, may be some of  
the scripts are causing trouble

James
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Is it just me or are these websites really slow today:

http://www.perthnow.com.au/
http://www.news.com.au/

Most other websites are fine and load fast but these two for some  
reason seem very very slow. Several minutes to load. I get the  
header, but not the complete page. Is anybody else experiencing  
similar issues or is this something on my end.



Both load within about 20 seconds for me, Safari and Firefox

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Hell no I have sold my soul to the devil wants (Telstra) so I wanted to keep
away from the Borg .

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Are you guys with IINET ?


On 23 Dec 2010, at 15:57, James / Hans Kunz wrote:

> less than 15s on mine with 2.8 mb/s & safari 503, may be some of the scripts 
> are causing trouble
> James
> On 23/12/2010, at 15:53, Geoff and Kaye wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 23/12/2010, at 3:07 PM, Alexander Hartner wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Is it just me or are these websites really slow today:
>>> 
>>> http://www.perthnow.com.au/
>>> http://www.news.com.au/
>>> 
>>> Most other websites are fine and load fast but these two for some reason 
>>> seem very very slow. Several minutes to load. I get the header, but not the 
>>> complete page. Is anybody else experiencing similar issues or is this 
>>> something on my end.
>> 
>> 
>> Both load within about 20 seconds for me, Safari and Firefox
>> 
>> Geoff
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less than 15s on mine with 2.8 mb/s & safari 503, may be some of the  
scripts are causing trouble

James
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On 23/12/2010, at 3:07 PM, Alexander Hartner wrote:



Is it just me or are these websites really slow today:

http://www.perthnow.com.au/
http://www.news.com.au/

Most other websites are fine and load fast but these two for some  
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header, but not the complete page. Is anybody else experiencing  
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Hidden: theft tracking software for your laptop

[Daniel Kerr]

Hi All

Some may be interested in the following, which is normally $20, now free
until January.


Haven't looked at it fully yet, but just thought I'd mention it

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> Is it just me or are these websites really slow today:
> 
> http://www.perthnow.com.au/
> http://www.news.com.au/
> 
> Most other websites are fine and load fast but these two for some reason seem 
> very very slow. Several minutes to load. I get the header, but not the 
> complete page. Is anybody else experiencing similar issues or is this 
> something on my end.


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