eBay Macs
I will attach 3 links below. If you can, please view them, and tell me which one is the best I need something that falls within the criteria of: - A good light gaming machine - A great school machine - A HD dvd machine - A HDD big enough for some music, many programs and videos. Even add another link for me if you want LINKS: Link 1http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Apple-iMac-Core-2-Duo-2-4-24-Inch-1GB-300GB-NEW-/170602305446?pt=AU_Computers_Apple_Desktopshash=item27b8b097a6#ht_5091wt_1139 Link 2http://cgi.ebay.com.au/iMac-24-Intel-Core2Duo-CUSTOM-BUILT-/300525430129?pt=AU_Computers_Apple_Desktopshash=item45f8b62571#ht_4302wt_1139 Link 3http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=150561314440#ht_2485wt_1139 -- Adrian Stevens 9246 9885 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: eBay Macs
Hi Adrian, the third link is for someone in NSW only. So, its your choice between the other two. Cheers, Susan. From: Adrian Stevens adrianosbia...@gmail.com Reply-To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 16:58:31 +0800 To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au Subject: eBay Macs I will attach 3 links below. If you can, please view them, and tell me which one is the best I need something that falls within the criteria of: * A good light gaming machine * A great school machine * A HD dvd machine * A HDD big enough for some music, many programs and videos. Even add another link for me if you want LINKS: Link 1 http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Apple-iMac-Core-2-Duo-2-4-24-Inch-1GB-300GB-NEW-/170 602305446?pt=AU_Computers_Apple_Desktopshash=item27b8b097a6#ht_5091wt_1139 Link 2 http://cgi.ebay.com.au/iMac-24-Intel-Core2Duo-CUSTOM-BUILT-/300525430129?pt =AU_Computers_Apple_Desktopshash=item45f8b62571#ht_4302wt_1139 Link 3 http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=150561314440#ht_2485w t_1139 -- Adrian Stevens 9246 9885 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: eBay Macs
Hi, and link 2 is local pickup only in South Australia. That makes link 1 the only possibility. From: Adrian Stevens adrianosbia...@gmail.com Reply-To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 16:58:31 +0800 To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au Subject: eBay Macs I will attach 3 links below. If you can, please view them, and tell me which one is the best I need something that falls within the criteria of: * A good light gaming machine * A great school machine * A HD dvd machine * A HDD big enough for some music, many programs and videos. Even add another link for me if you want LINKS: Link 1 http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Apple-iMac-Core-2-Duo-2-4-24-Inch-1GB-300GB-NEW-/170 602305446?pt=AU_Computers_Apple_Desktopshash=item27b8b097a6#ht_5091wt_1139 Link 2 http://cgi.ebay.com.au/iMac-24-Intel-Core2Duo-CUSTOM-BUILT-/300525430129?pt =AU_Computers_Apple_Desktopshash=item45f8b62571#ht_4302wt_1139 Link 3 http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=150561314440#ht_2485w t_1139 -- Adrian Stevens 9246 9885 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: eBay Macs
Ask the question if they will post, they will only be reluctant (as I will) if they haven't the original packaging to ensue safe arrival. On 16/02/2011, at 5:18 PM, Susan Hastings wrote: Hi, and link 2 is local pickup only in South Australia. That makes link 1 the only possibility. From: Adrian Stevens adrianosbia...@gmail.com Reply-To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 16:58:31 +0800 To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au Subject: eBay Macs I will attach 3 links below. If you can, please view them, and tell me which one is the best I need something that falls within the criteria of: A good light gaming machine A great school machine A HD dvd machine A HDD big enough for some music, many programs and videos. Even add another link for me if you want LINKS: Link 1 Link 2 Link 3 -- Adrian Stevens 9246 9885 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: eBay Macs
As Susan has pointed out, the other 2 are local pickup or overeast only. Also, don't be surprised for them to go higher as it gets closer to the end of the auction. The last few completed 24 models of similar specs sold for $800-$1000 in the last week approximately. You also then have to factor in the fright cost, which generally won't include insurance. If something breaks along the way,..it's at your expense. (You have to argue out with the seller or shipping company about it, and it can get quite messy). Insurance can quite easily factor in another $100+ I notice they list $10 insurance. $50 freight and $10 insurance seems all a little cheap to get it over here to WA from there, based on prices I've seen previously. Plus he lists it doesn't have the original box. Without an original box, I'd be a bit cautious shipping those things. Just my 2cents worth. Kind Regards Daniel --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel @ macwizardry . com . au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Macintosh** On 16/2/11 5:18 PM, Susan Hastings susanhasti...@me.com wrote: Hi, and link 2 is local pickup only in South Australia. That makes link 1 the only possibility. From: Adrian Stevens adrianosbia...@gmail.com Reply-To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 16:58:31 +0800 To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au Subject: eBay Macs I will attach 3 links below. If you can, please view them, and tell me which one is the best I need something that falls within the criteria of: * A good light gaming machine * A great school machine * A HD dvd machine * A HDD big enough for some music, many programs and videos. Even add another link for me if you want LINKS: Link 1 http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Apple-iMac-Core-2-Duo-2-4-24-Inch-1GB-300GB-NEW-/170 602305446?pt=AU_Computers_Apple_Desktopshash=item27b8b097a6#ht_5091wt_1139 Link 2 http://cgi.ebay.com.au/iMac-24-Intel-Core2Duo-CUSTOM-BUILT-/300525430129?pt =AU_Computers_Apple_Desktopshash=item45f8b62571#ht_4302wt_1139 Link 3 http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=150561314440#ht_2485w t_1139 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: eBay Macs
Hi Adrian, Link 1 is located in Melbourne ( not even spelt correctly). And as Daniel has mentioned it does not have the original box. I agree with everything Daniel has mentioned. Item location: melburne, Victoria, Australia Also the Photos are not of the Item for sale but very similar? PHOTOS ARE NOT OF THE ITEM FOR SALE BUT VERY SIMILAR Also OS X NOT installed? I would take that to mean there is no operating system installed on this iMac you would need to purchase OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard. I would also imagine it doesn't come with the Original Discs also I don't feel happy about this item Adrian. I would be hesitant to purchase without knowing a lot more about this iMac. Os X NOT installed I would not like you see you purchase a shonky deal. I'm not saying this is a shonky deal, but I would advise you to be extremely careful. Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad On 16/02/2011, at 5:37 PM, Daniel Kerr wa...@macwizardry.com.au wrote: As Susan has pointed out, the other 2 are local pickup or overeast only. Also, don't be surprised for them to go higher as it gets closer to the end of the auction. The last few completed 24 models of similar specs sold for $800-$1000 in the last week approximately. You also then have to factor in the fright cost, which generally won't include insurance. If something breaks along the way,..it's at your expense. (You have to argue out with the seller or shipping company about it, and it can get quite messy). Insurance can quite easily factor in another $100+ I notice they list $10 insurance. $50 freight and $10 insurance seems all a little cheap to get it over here to WA from there, based on prices I've seen previously. Plus he lists it doesn't have the original box. Without an original box, I'd be a bit cautious shipping those things. Just my 2cents worth. Kind Regards Daniel --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel @ macwizardry . com . au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Macintosh** On 16/2/11 5:18 PM, Susan Hastings susanhasti...@me.com wrote: Hi, and link 2 is local pickup only in South Australia. That makes link 1 the only possibility. From: Adrian Stevens adrianosbia...@gmail.com Reply-To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 16:58:31 +0800 To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au Subject: eBay Macs I will attach 3 links below. If you can, please view them, and tell me which one is the best I need something that falls within the criteria of: * A good light gaming machine * A great school machine * A HD dvd machine * A HDD big enough for some music, many programs and videos. Even add another link for me if you want LINKS: Link 1 http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Apple-iMac-Core-2-Duo-2-4-24-Inch-1GB-300GB-NEW-/170 602305446?pt=AU_Computers_Apple_Desktopshash=item27b8b097a6#ht_5091wt_1139 Link 2 http://cgi.ebay.com.au/iMac-24-Intel-Core2Duo-CUSTOM-BUILT-/300525430129?pt =AU_Computers_Apple_Desktopshash=item45f8b62571#ht_4302wt_1139 Link 3 http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=150561314440#ht_2485w t_1139 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Preferences not showing
Hi I have 2Ghz Intel Core Duo 2 GB 667 Mhz DDR2 SDRAM Imac from a few years ago that is running 10.6.6 and for some damned reason I cannot open the Preferences windows Have tried a few of the work-arounds from apple and still nothing any clues would be appreciated however obvious to someone else it has me stumped thanks Tom Hogarth -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Preferences not showing
On 16/2/11 9:03 PM, Tom Hogarth twshoga...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I have 2Ghz Intel Core Duo 2 GB 667 Mhz DDR2 SDRAM Imac from a few years ago that is running 10.6.6 and for some damned reason I cannot open the Preferences windows Have tried a few of the work-arounds from apple and still nothing any clues would be appreciated however obvious to someone else it has me stumped thanks Tom Hogarth Hi Tom I'm assuming you mean System Preferences? When you try open it does it bounce then not open, or does it give you an error message? I did come across something similar for a client and found they actually had two System Preferences on their machine. (One in the Applications folder and one buried away someone else). The one buried away was faulty and therefore wouldn't launch. Once I found it, deleted it and restarted the computer it opened as normal. So... 1. Do a search for System Preferences and make sure you only have one installed. 2. Make sure it is located in the Applications folder. I'm assuming you've deleted the com.apple.systempreferences.plist from your User directory Library Preferences folder? (Macintosh HD/Users/yourname/Library/Preferences) Which other work arounds have you tried? Kind Regards Daniel --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel @ macwizardry . com . au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Macintosh** -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Preferences not showing
Hi Tom, Download the OS X 10.6.6 Combo Update and install it. http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1349 Sent from Ronni's iPad On 16/02/2011, at 9:03 PM, Tom Hogarth twshoga...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I have 2Ghz Intel Core Duo 2 GB 667 Mhz DDR2 SDRAM Imac from a few years ago that is running 10.6.6 and for some damned reason I cannot open the Preferences windows Have tried a few of the work-arounds from apple and still nothing any clues would be appreciated however obvious to someone else it has me stumped thanks Tom Hogarth -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Preferences not showing
Thank you both - no answes yet - will have to do things when my game playing son is not online on his ;) appreciate the speedy response - p On 16 February 2011 21:20, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi Tom, Download the OS X 10.6.6 Combo Update and install it. http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1349 Sent from Ronni's iPad On 16/02/2011, at 9:03 PM, Tom Hogarth twshoga...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I have 2Ghz Intel Core Duo 2 GB 667 Mhz DDR2 SDRAM Imac from a few years ago that is running 10.6.6 and for some damned reason I cannot open the Preferences windows Have tried a few of the work-arounds from apple and still nothing any clues would be appreciated however obvious to someone else it has me stumped thanks Tom Hogarth -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Preferences not showing
OK I re-read Daniels message - no double up of 2 sys prefs found, but I did go in and deleted the plistfile and turned computer off - and went away from computer just started it up - and problem has been solved - there it is the pref window thank you On 16 February 2011 21:38, Tom Hogarth twshoga...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you both - no answers yet - will have to do things when my game playing son is not online on his ;) appreciate the speedy response - On 16 February 2011 21:20, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi Tom, Download the OS X 10.6.6 Combo Update and install it. http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1349 Sent from Ronni's iPad On 16/02/2011, at 9:03 PM, Tom Hogarth twshoga...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I have 2Ghz Intel Core Duo 2 GB 667 Mhz DDR2 SDRAM Imac from a few years ago that is running 10.6.6 and for some damned reason I cannot open the Preferences windows Have tried a few of the work-arounds from apple and still nothing any clues would be appreciated however obvious to someone else it has me stumped thanks Tom Hogarth -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
How to remove a person from a Skype group conversation ?
Can anyone tell me how to remove a person from a particular group conversation in Skype 5.0.0.7994 ? There is a drop down menu for each person which allows Call, Send Instant Message, or Show Profile. I can't seem to drag these people off the screen or out of the conversation. I can Add people to the conversation, but I just can't figure how to remove them. Cheers, Steven -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: How to remove a person from a Skype group conversation ?
On 17/02/2011, at 7:59 AM, Steven Knowles wrote: Can anyone tell me how to remove a person from a particular group conversation in Skype 5.0.0.7994 ? There is a drop down menu for each person which allows Call, Send Instant Message, or Show Profile. I can't seem to drag these people off the screen or out of the conversation. I can Add people to the conversation, but I just can't figure how to remove them. Hi Steven, I found this in my documents folder, but unfortunately I didn’t keep the URL where I located it from. I’ve never used the information below, so I can’t comment on it. Two ways: Way A): 1. You should already be focused on the conversation containing both persons. If you VO+left of the HTML area, you will noticed two buttons. One button will have a menu pertaining to one person, and the other button will have the menu pertaining to the other. 2. Press the button for person A and a menu will pop up. 3. IF you choose, end call the call will be dropped for person A but continue for you and the other person. The person a can still be called again from the same menu or text chatted with. Way B) 1. Look just to the right of the tool bar. You'll notice a scrol area. Interact with this area. 2. Notice that you now can see the two individuals you're talking to. VO left or right till you come to the person upon whom you wish to have an effect. 3. Now, Cease interacting with that scrol area. 4. IF you then look at the window you've landed in, you will notice that it's the window pertaining to the person you wish to effect. In this window you have control over their aspect of the conversation. Pressing command+w should close their window and leave the rest alone. Or: And once again, I’ve never tried this. /kick skype_id Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro Intel Core i7 2.66GHz / 8GB / 1067 MHz DDR3 / 500GB Serial ATA Drive @ 7200rpm OS X 10.6.6 Snow Leopard Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance) -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: How to remove a person from a Skype group conversation ?
Thanks Ronni. A search on some of the text reveals you probably got it for this page. It doesn't seem to solve my problem though, but I suspect it may be relevant to verbal conversations. My problem involves text based chat for a group (my fault, didn't clarify that in my original question). I've now worked out that you can right click the name of someone who's contributed to the chat, and kick them, which seems to kick them out of that chat. However if a person is a member of the group discussion, but hasn't contributed, there doesn't seem to be a way of removing them. At the top of the Skype window for the group chat, each members name appears as a button, but no 'kick' or other removal option appears. An easy solution might be to ask the person to type something, so creating their name in the chat window, which can then be 'kicked', however the problem is that the person we want to remove, it's an old Skype name which she no longer uses, and has long since forgotten the password. I guess we'll just leave her there - I suspect it must be just a bug in the latest version of Skype. We could dispense with the existing conversation altogether, and start another, but then I presume we lose all the chat history. On 17/02/2011, at 11:06 AM, Ronda Brown wrote: On 17/02/2011, at 7:59 AM, Steven Knowles wrote: Can anyone tell me how to remove a person from a particular group conversation in Skype 5.0.0.7994 ? There is a drop down menu for each person which allows Call, Send Instant Message, or Show Profile. I can't seem to drag these people off the screen or out of the conversation. I can Add people to the conversation, but I just can't figure how to remove them. Hi Steven, I found this in my documents folder, but unfortunately I didn’t keep the URL where I located it from. I’ve never used the information below, so I can’t comment on it. Two ways: Way A): 1. You should already be focused on the conversation containing both persons. If you VO+left of the HTML area, you will noticed two buttons. One button will have a menu pertaining to one person, and the other button will have the menu pertaining to the other. 2. Press the button for person A and a menu will pop up. 3. IF you choose, end call the call will be dropped for person A but continue for you and the other person. The person a can still be called again from the same menu or text chatted with. Way B) 1. Look just to the right of the tool bar. You'll notice a scrol area. Interact with this area. 2. Notice that you now can see the two individuals you're talking to. VO left or right till you come to the person upon whom you wish to have an effect. 3. Now, Cease interacting with that scrol area. 4. IF you then look at the window you've landed in, you will notice that it's the window pertaining to the person you wish to effect. In this window you have control over their aspect of the conversation. Pressing command+w should close their window and leave the rest alone. Or: And once again, I’ve never tried this. /kick skype_id Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro Intel Core i7 2.66GHz / 8GB / 1067 MHz DDR3 / 500GB Serial ATA Drive @ 7200rpm OS X 10.6.6 Snow Leopard Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance) -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Protective Plastic Case for 3.5 SATA HDD
G'day all. This may interest any of you who have invested or are going to invest in bare external hard disks for use in devices such as the Voyager Q. I have had three on the go plus some more I've just bought ($63 for 1TB from Austin computers online) and have just been storing them in the original packaging. This was not the best solution I felt so I did a bit of interwebby research and eventually came across the following: http://www.dealextreme.com/p/protective-plastic-case-for-3-5-sata-hdd-translucent-25631 I ordered some and they turned up yesterday. My verdict? Brilliant! The drives fit firmly and snuggly in the cases and the top is easy to open and shut. The drives don't just 'fall' in or out but need to be deliberately pushed in and pulled out but it can be done with two fingers grasping each side easily. Now my drives can be stored upright like books and the cases can be easily labelled. You can also store them laying down if you want, or on the side if you choose. The cases are from the USA and cost $US 3.62 ($AUD3.61 today) but get a bit cheaper if you order more. I ordered 15, not only for myself, and each case worked out at $AUD 2.99 each delivered to my front door. For those interested, I ordered them on 20 January 2011, they shipped on 27 January and were delivered yesterday, 16 February. Hope this helps someone. Regards, Pete Smith -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: How to remove a person from a Skype group conversation ?
Hi Steven, however the problem is that the person we want to remove, it's an old Skype name which she no longer uses, and has long since forgotten the password. I’m obviously missing something here ;-) Otherwise, why can’t you just Select the ’old’ contact in the Contacts list and hit Delete? Cheers, Ronni On 17/02/2011, at 11:04 AM, Steven Knowles wrote: Thanks Ronni. A search on some of the text reveals you probably got it for this page. It doesn't seem to solve my problem though, but I suspect it may be relevant to verbal conversations. My problem involves text based chat for a group (my fault, didn't clarify that in my original question). I've now worked out that you can right click the name of someone who's contributed to the chat, and kick them, which seems to kick them out of that chat. However if a person is a member of the group discussion, but hasn't contributed, there doesn't seem to be a way of removing them. At the top of the Skype window for the group chat, each members name appears as a button, but no 'kick' or other removal option appears. An easy solution might be to ask the person to type something, so creating their name in the chat window, which can then be 'kicked', however the problem is that the person we want to remove, it's an old Skype name which she no longer uses, and has long since forgotten the password. I guess we'll just leave her there - I suspect it must be just a bug in the latest version of Skype. We could dispense with the existing conversation altogether, and start another, but then I presume we lose all the chat history. On 17/02/2011, at 11:06 AM, Ronda Brown wrote: On 17/02/2011, at 7:59 AM, Steven Knowles wrote: Can anyone tell me how to remove a person from a particular group conversation in Skype 5.0.0.7994 ? There is a drop down menu for each person which allows Call, Send Instant Message, or Show Profile. I can't seem to drag these people off the screen or out of the conversation. I can Add people to the conversation, but I just can't figure how to remove them. Hi Steven, I found this in my documents folder, but unfortunately I didn’t keep the URL where I located it from. I’ve never used the information below, so I can’t comment on it. Two ways: Way A): 1. You should already be focused on the conversation containing both persons. If you VO+left of the HTML area, you will noticed two buttons. One button will have a menu pertaining to one person, and the other button will have the menu pertaining to the other. 2. Press the button for person A and a menu will pop up. 3. IF you choose, end call the call will be dropped for person A but continue for you and the other person. The person a can still be called again from the same menu or text chatted with. Way B) 1. Look just to the right of the tool bar. You'll notice a scrol area. Interact with this area. 2. Notice that you now can see the two individuals you're talking to. VO left or right till you come to the person upon whom you wish to have an effect. 3. Now, Cease interacting with that scrol area. 4. IF you then look at the window you've landed in, you will notice that it's the window pertaining to the person you wish to effect. In this window you have control over their aspect of the conversation. Pressing command+w should close their window and leave the rest alone. Or: And once again, I’ve never tried this. /kick skype_id Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro Intel Core i7 2.66GHz / 8GB / 1067 MHz DDR3 / 500GB Serial ATA Drive @ 7200rpm OS X 10.6.6 Snow Leopard Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance) -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
iMac Good Practices
What is the short list of iMac good practices? I have been trying to trace my iMac sleep apnoea problem by noting setup changes and their effect. (iMac wakes from sleep after a short period - usually less than 30 minutes.) I am finding lots of red herrings in my pursuit of the cure! Some of my tests give inconsistent results. I have removed external devices, reset most preferences to default, deleted some .plists, removed unused third party programs, etc etc.One problem is that it can take up to one hour to conduct just one test, which involves a change then watching for the result (usually a bright active screen.) I am not ready to beg WAMUG help on the Sleep problem (yet!) as there still seems to be too many variables. A basic problem is that I don't know what all the general iMac good practices are. Q1. IMac is connected to router via an Ethernet cable. Should Air Port be turned off? Q2. Should iMac be Restarted after each software change such as a preference or program deletion? Most preference changes seem to take immediate effect but a Restart seemed to be necessary to activate the Magic Mouse defaults after the Magic Preferences (mouse) program was deleted. Q3. Is it safe for deleted files to remain in Trash during the test period? For ever? Q4. Are files (or copies) left on the Desktop (or in Trash) completely inactive (if I don't open them)? Q5. If iMac is Shut Down (Apple menu) then can iMac ONLY be turned on by using the power switch? Q6. Is it advisable to remove external power from iMac after it is Shut Down? Q6. What is signified when the iMac wakes within a few seconds of an AppleSleep command? Q7. When advice is to remove all external devices does this include Ethernet cable (and Air Port) for internet? Regards, Alan Alan Smith iMac 21.5 Nov 2009 Intel Core 2 Duo 3.06 GHz / 4 MB OSX 10.6.6 Snow Leopard Time Machine in 1TB WD My Studio Firewire -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Protective Plastic Case for 3.5 SATA HDD
Thanks Pete, they will be very handy. I think I'll order about 15 just for myself! :o) Was looking for something similar to that, that works out well. :)) Good find. Kind Regards Daniel On 17/2/11 11:35 AM, Pete Smith smudd...@internode.on.net wrote: G'day all. This may interest any of you who have invested or are going to invest in bare external hard disks for use in devices such as the Voyager Q. I have had three on the go plus some more I've just bought ($63 for 1TB from Austin computers online) and have just been storing them in the original packaging. This was not the best solution I felt so I did a bit of interwebby research and eventually came across the following: http://www.dealextreme.com/p/protective-plastic-case-for-3-5-sata-hdd-translu cent-25631 I ordered some and they turned up yesterday. My verdict? Brilliant! The drives fit firmly and snuggly in the cases and the top is easy to open and shut. The drives don't just 'fall' in or out but need to be deliberately pushed in and pulled out but it can be done with two fingers grasping each side easily. Now my drives can be stored upright like books and the cases can be easily labelled. You can also store them laying down if you want, or on the side if you choose. The cases are from the USA and cost $US 3.62 ($AUD3.61 today) but get a bit cheaper if you order more. I ordered 15, not only for myself, and each case worked out at $AUD 2.99 each delivered to my front door. For those interested, I ordered them on 20 January 2011, they shipped on 27 January and were delivered yesterday, 16 February. Hope this helps someone. Regards, Pete Smith -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel @ macwizardry . com . au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Macintosh** -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: iMac Good Practices
Hi Alan Some answers may be different for different people, but here's my opinion. (Each answer below your question) On 17/2/11 1:52 PM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote: What is the short list of iMac good practices? I have been trying to trace my iMac sleep apnoea problem by noting setup changes and their effect. (iMac wakes from sleep after a short period - usually less than 30 minutes.) I am finding lots of red herrings in my pursuit of the cure! Some of my tests give inconsistent results. I have removed external devices, reset most preferences to default, deleted some .plists, removed unused third party programs, etc etc.One problem is that it can take up to one hour to conduct just one test, which involves a change then watching for the result (usually a bright active screen.) I am not ready to beg WAMUG help on the Sleep problem (yet!) as there still seems to be too many variables. A basic problem is that I don't know what all the general iMac good practices are. Q1. IMac is connected to router via an Ethernet cable. Should Air Port be turned off? Don't really need to. Only don't need it on if you have them both connected, ie you really shouldn't have a connection to your router via both Airport AND Ethernet. It creates two IP addresses for one machine and can create some headaches. (eg you might have two Ips like 192.168.0.3 and 192.168.0.4. It gets messy). But if not being used, no harm in having it on (or off for that matter). Q2. Should iMac be Restarted after each software change such as a preference or program deletion? Most preference changes seem to take immediate effect but a Restart seemed to be necessary to activate the Magic Mouse defaults after the Magic Preferences (mouse) program was deleted. Most software changes don't really need a restart. Only major updates, which will generally tell you (eg Safari 5.0.3, OS 10.6.6. And some others). If it doesn't tell you to restart, don't really need to on most occasions. Q3. Is it safe for deleted files to remain in Trash during the test period? For ever? I don't know if I'd call it safe. If you're not sure if you want it or not, just create a folder on the desktop called Undecided or something. Only put things in the trash you really don't want, and just empty it. That's my best practice. As I say to clients who put things in the trash, but won't empty it just incase. Someone else may not know your just in case and empty it. Then it's gone. You wouldn't put something in your green curbside bin,..just incase. Once that's gone, it's gone. :o) So personally, I'd say best practice is not put it there unless you really really don't want it. I like my trash can empty all the time, then I know if something has gone in there I didn't put there, so I can see. Q4. Are files (or copies) left on the Desktop (or in Trash) completely inactive (if I don't open them)? Yes, anything not open isn't being used. So fine sitting there. Q5. If iMac is Shut Down (Apple menu) then can iMac ONLY be turned on by using the power switch? Generally yes. Unless you have the setting in Energy Saver for start up after power failure. There is also one to start up at Set times. Sometimes, some programs can turn it on too, eg eyeTV I think can do it as well. But yes generally, only the button will wake it up. Q6. Is it advisable to remove external power from iMac after it is Shut Down? I never unplug my machines from the mains at all. Not even in a power storm. I have Belkin Surgeboards on them all, so they protect it. (And have good insurance and warranties to cover if something does go wrong). Q6. What is signified when the iMac wakes within a few seconds of an AppleSleep command? Something is sending a command back to it to wake it up straight away. Normally Console can tell you what it is (Utilities - Console). Q7. When advice is to remove all external devices does this include Ethernet cable (and Air Port) for internet? Not generally. External devices are hard drives and printers. If you want to check everything, then yes, unplug it all. Regards, Alan Alan Smith iMac 21.5 Nov 2009 Intel Core 2 Duo 3.06 GHz / 4 MB OSX 10.6.6 Snow Leopard Time Machine in 1TB WD My Studio Firewire Hope that helps a little. Kind Regards Daniel --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel @ macwizardry . com . au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Macintosh** -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
iPad purchase HK?
Does anyone have any suggestions re the pros/cons of buying an iPad in Hong Kong or Shanghai and bringing it back to Australia? Have a friend who is travelling and considering a purchase. Regards, Glenn Nicholas OM4 :: -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: iMac Good Practices
Hi Alan, I will only add one comment to Daniel’s excellent (as always) post. My comment is in regard to Q4 ‘Files on the Desktop’ and is in the colour ‘purple’. On 17/02/2011, at 2:03 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote: Hi Alan Some answers may be different for different people, but here's my opinion. (Each answer below your question) On 17/2/11 1:52 PM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote: What is the short list of iMac good practices? I have been trying to trace my iMac sleep apnoea problem by noting setup changes and their effect. (iMac wakes from sleep after a short period - usually less than 30 minutes.) I am finding lots of red herrings in my pursuit of the cure! Some of my tests give inconsistent results. I have removed external devices, reset most preferences to default, deleted some .plists, removed unused third party programs, etc etc.One problem is that it can take up to one hour to conduct just one test, which involves a change then watching for the result (usually a bright active screen.) I am not ready to beg WAMUG help on the Sleep problem (yet!) as there still seems to be too many variables. A basic problem is that I don't know what all the general iMac good practices are. Q1. IMac is connected to router via an Ethernet cable. Should Air Port be turned off? Don't really need to. Only don't need it on if you have them both connected, ie you really shouldn't have a connection to your router via both Airport AND Ethernet. It creates two IP addresses for one machine and can create some headaches. (eg you might have two Ips like 192.168.0.3 and 192.168.0.4. It gets messy). But if not being used, no harm in having it on (or off for that matter). Q2. Should iMac be Restarted after each software change such as a preference or program deletion? Most preference changes seem to take immediate effect but a Restart seemed to be necessary to activate the Magic Mouse defaults after the Magic Preferences (mouse) program was deleted. Most software changes don't really need a restart. Only major updates, which will generally tell you (eg Safari 5.0.3, OS 10.6.6. And some others). If it doesn't tell you to restart, don't really need to on most occasions. Q3. Is it safe for deleted files to remain in Trash during the test period? For ever? I don't know if I'd call it safe. If you're not sure if you want it or not, just create a folder on the desktop called Undecided or something. Only put things in the trash you really don't want, and just empty it. That's my best practice. As I say to clients who put things in the trash, but won't empty it just incase. Someone else may not know your just in case and empty it. Then it's gone. You wouldn't put something in your green curbside bin,..just incase. Once that's gone, it's gone. :o) So personally, I'd say best practice is not put it there unless you really really don't want it. I like my trash can empty all the time, then I know if something has gone in there I didn't put there, so I can see. Q4. Are files (or copies) left on the Desktop (or in Trash) completely inactive (if I don't open them)? Yes, anything not open isn't being used. So fine sitting there. A desktop is exactly what it sounds like: a place to store temporary projects. Once you’re done working on a project, store it in a folder. The folder system is really well done on OSX, just go to Macintosh HD User YourName and you’ll find 8 different folder categories, ranging from music to documents. Use these to store your files. Keeping your desktop clean is really important because every icon, folder or alias on it is loaded into the RAM, slowing your system down. If there is a certain folder or file you need to access regularly, leave it where it should be and slide it into the right side of the OSX dock; this will create a stack, a feature that is incredibly useful. Q5. If iMac is Shut Down (Apple menu) then can iMac ONLY be turned on by using the power switch? Generally yes. Unless you have the setting in Energy Saver for start up after power failure. There is also one to start up at Set times. Sometimes, some programs can turn it on too, eg eyeTV I think can do it as well. But yes generally, only the button will wake it up. Q6. Is it advisable to remove external power from iMac after it is Shut Down? I never unplug my machines from the mains at all. Not even in a power storm. I have Belkin Surgeboards on them all, so they protect it. (And have good insurance and warranties to cover if something does go wrong). Q6. What is signified when the iMac wakes within a few seconds of an AppleSleep command? Something is sending a command back to it to wake it up straight away. Normally Console can tell you what it is (Utilities - Console). Q7. When advice is to remove all external devices does this include Ethernet cable (and Air Port) for internet? Not generally. External
Re: iMac Good Practices
Keeping your desktop clean is really important because every icon, folder or alias on it is loaded into the RAM, slowing your system down. So Ronni, are you saying that even tho an alias is just 'an alias' and only takes up a few kb, that it still takes enough RAM to make a difference? I assumed. :-) that aliases wouldn't cause too much of a problem so have a few on my desktop. I can understand that a full sized file or folder would take up a chunk of RAM, but am surprised that an alias has the same/some impact. Great suggestion to use the Dock, thanks Tim On 17/02/2011, at 2:18 PM, Ronda Brown wrote: Hi Alan, I will only add one comment to Daniel’s excellent (as always) post. My comment is in regard to Q4 ‘Files on the Desktop’ and is in the colour ‘purple’. On 17/02/2011, at 2:03 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote: Hi Alan Some answers may be different for different people, but here's my opinion. (Each answer below your question) On 17/2/11 1:52 PM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote: What is the short list of iMac good practices? I have been trying to trace my iMac sleep apnoea problem by noting setup changes and their effect. (iMac wakes from sleep after a short period - usually less than 30 minutes.) I am finding lots of red herrings in my pursuit of the cure! Some of my tests give inconsistent results. I have removed external devices, reset most preferences to default, deleted some .plists, removed unused third party programs, etc etc.One problem is that it can take up to one hour to conduct just one test, which involves a change then watching for the result (usually a bright active screen.) I am not ready to beg WAMUG help on the Sleep problem (yet!) as there still seems to be too many variables. A basic problem is that I don't know what all the general iMac good practices are. Q1. IMac is connected to router via an Ethernet cable. Should Air Port be turned off? Don't really need to. Only don't need it on if you have them both connected, ie you really shouldn't have a connection to your router via both Airport AND Ethernet. It creates two IP addresses for one machine and can create some headaches. (eg you might have two Ips like 192.168.0.3 and 192.168.0.4. It gets messy). But if not being used, no harm in having it on (or off for that matter). Q2. Should iMac be Restarted after each software change such as a preference or program deletion? Most preference changes seem to take immediate effect but a Restart seemed to be necessary to activate the Magic Mouse defaults after the Magic Preferences (mouse) program was deleted. Most software changes don't really need a restart. Only major updates, which will generally tell you (eg Safari 5.0.3, OS 10.6.6. And some others). If it doesn't tell you to restart, don't really need to on most occasions. Q3. Is it safe for deleted files to remain in Trash during the test period? For ever? I don't know if I'd call it safe. If you're not sure if you want it or not, just create a folder on the desktop called Undecided or something. Only put things in the trash you really don't want, and just empty it. That's my best practice. As I say to clients who put things in the trash, but won't empty it just incase. Someone else may not know your just in case and empty it. Then it's gone. You wouldn't put something in your green curbside bin,..just incase. Once that's gone, it's gone. :o) So personally, I'd say best practice is not put it there unless you really really don't want it. I like my trash can empty all the time, then I know if something has gone in there I didn't put there, so I can see. Q4. Are files (or copies) left on the Desktop (or in Trash) completely inactive (if I don't open them)? Yes, anything not open isn't being used. So fine sitting there. A desktop is exactly what it sounds like: a place to store temporary projects. Once you’re done working on a project, store it in a folder. The folder system is really well done on OSX, just go to Macintosh HD User YourName and you’ll find 8 different folder categories, ranging from music to documents. Use these to store your files. Keeping your desktop clean is really important because every icon, folder or alias on it is loaded into the RAM, slowing your system down. If there is a certain folder or file you need to access regularly, leave it where it should be and slide it into the right side of the OSX dock; this will create a stack, a feature that is incredibly useful. Q5. If iMac is Shut Down (Apple menu) then can iMac ONLY be turned on by using the power switch? Generally yes. Unless you have the setting in Energy Saver for start up after power failure. There is also one to start up at Set times. Sometimes, some programs can turn it on too, eg eyeTV I think can do it as well. But yes generally, only the button will wake it up. Q6. Is it
RE: iMac Good Practices
Thanks Daniel and Ronni Love your responses and explanations. I like my rules in black and white as you can guess - though purple addendums aren't bad! I've got two of David Pogue's missing manual books for Snow Leopard. Very good explanations when the base system is working properly. Looks like I need two Desktop folders - Temp and Delete (but not yet). And then perhaps put Temp on the Dock. Cheers, Alan From: wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au [mailto:wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au] On Behalf Of Ronda Brown Sent: Thursday, 17 February 2011 2:19 PM To: WAMUG Mailing List Subject: Re: iMac Good Practices Hi Alan, I will only add one comment to Daniel's excellent (as always) post. My comment is in regard to Q4 'Files on the Desktop' and is in the colour 'purple'. On 17/02/2011, at 2:03 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote: Hi Alan Some answers may be different for different people, but here's my opinion. (Each answer below your question) On 17/2/11 1:52 PM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote: What is the short list of iMac good practices? I have been trying to trace my iMac sleep apnoea problem by noting setup changes and their effect. (iMac wakes from sleep after a short period - usually less than 30 minutes.) I am finding lots of red herrings in my pursuit of the cure! Some of my tests give inconsistent results. I have removed external devices, reset most preferences to default, deleted some .plists, removed unused third party programs, etc etc.One problem is that it can take up to one hour to conduct just one test, which involves a change then watching for the result (usually a bright active screen.) I am not ready to beg WAMUG help on the Sleep problem (yet!) as there still seems to be too many variables. A basic problem is that I don't know what all the general iMac good practices are. Q1. IMac is connected to router via an Ethernet cable. Should Air Port be turned off? Don't really need to. Only don't need it on if you have them both connected, ie you really shouldn't have a connection to your router via both Airport AND Ethernet. It creates two IP addresses for one machine and can create some headaches. (eg you might have two Ips like 192.168.0.3 and 192.168.0.4. It gets messy). But if not being used, no harm in having it on (or off for that matter). Q2. Should iMac be Restarted after each software change such as a preference or program deletion? Most preference changes seem to take immediate effect but a Restart seemed to be necessary to activate the Magic Mouse defaults after the Magic Preferences (mouse) program was deleted. Most software changes don't really need a restart. Only major updates, which will generally tell you (eg Safari 5.0.3, OS 10.6.6. And some others). If it doesn't tell you to restart, don't really need to on most occasions. Q3. Is it safe for deleted files to remain in Trash during the test period? For ever? I don't know if I'd call it safe. If you're not sure if you want it or not, just create a folder on the desktop called Undecided or something. Only put things in the trash you really don't want, and just empty it. That's my best practice. As I say to clients who put things in the trash, but won't empty it just incase. Someone else may not know your just in case and empty it. Then it's gone. You wouldn't put something in your green curbside bin,..just incase. Once that's gone, it's gone. :o) So personally, I'd say best practice is not put it there unless you really really don't want it. I like my trash can empty all the time, then I know if something has gone in there I didn't put there, so I can see. Q4. Are files (or copies) left on the Desktop (or in Trash) completely inactive (if I don't open them)? Yes, anything not open isn't being used. So fine sitting there. A desktop is exactly what it sounds like: a place to store temporary projects. Once you're done working on a project, store it in a folder. The folder system is really well done on OSX, just go to Macintosh HD User YourName and you'll find 8 different folder categories, ranging from music to documents. Use these to store your files. Keeping your desktop clean is really important because every icon, folder or alias on it is loaded into the RAM, slowing your system down. If there is a certain folder or file you need to access regularly, leave it where it should be and slide it into the right side of the OSX dock; this will create a stack, a feature that is incredibly useful. Q5. If iMac is Shut Down (Apple menu) then can iMac ONLY be turned on by using the power switch? Generally yes. Unless you have the setting in Energy Saver for start up after power failure. There is also one to start up at Set times. Sometimes, some programs can turn it on too, eg eyeTV I think can do it as well. But yes generally, only the button will wake it up. Q6. Is it advisable to remove external
Application startup problem
I am observing ongoing problems with applications starting or not starting. The dock icon bounces forever and gets nowhere. A Force Quit followed by a try again usually fixes things. I believe that the problem is more frequent when I click on an icon in the dock rather than on the application icon itself, ie via an alias. This is widespread and includes Word, Acrobat Pro 9, iPhoto, Filemaker Pro most recently. I suspect the preference files, for no very good reason, and anyway the applications eventually fire up. As far as I can tell everything is up to date, caches clean, maintenance scripts run, permissions repaired etc. Suggestions welcomed! Severin Crisp G5 SP1.8 OSX 10.5.8 Assoc Professor R Severin Crisp, FIP, CPhys, FAIP 15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia. Phone (08) 9842 1950 (Int'l +61 8 9842 1950) email mailto:sevcr...@westnet.com.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: iMac Good Practices
Hi Tim, Aliases on the Desktop would not make much difference. Perhaps I should have included a few more words like below, but I did not want Alan again accusing me of being Intimidating. The larger the files, the longer the Mac will take to read them when it loads up, slowing down other services and processes that are starting at the same time. The obvious fix for this is to move the files back to your Documents folder and keep them there. A clear desktop = a happy Mac. If you must have icons or things on your desktop, try creating Aliases for them instead. I prefer to drag folders of documents I’m working on regularly onto the right side of the Dock where I can access/launch them quickly. Cheers, Ronni On 17/02/2011, at 2:32 PM, Tim Law wrote: Keeping your desktop clean is really important because every icon, folder or alias on it is loaded into the RAM, slowing your system down. So Ronni, are you saying that even tho an alias is just 'an alias' and only takes up a few kb, that it still takes enough RAM to make a difference? I assumed. :-) that aliases wouldn't cause too much of a problem so have a few on my desktop. I can understand that a full sized file or folder would take up a chunk of RAM, but am surprised that an alias has the same/some impact. Great suggestion to use the Dock, thanks Tim On 17/02/2011, at 2:18 PM, Ronda Brown wrote: Hi Alan, I will only add one comment to Daniel’s excellent (as always) post. My comment is in regard to Q4 ‘Files on the Desktop’ and is in the colour ‘purple’. On 17/02/2011, at 2:03 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote: Hi Alan Some answers may be different for different people, but here's my opinion. (Each answer below your question) On 17/2/11 1:52 PM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote: What is the short list of iMac good practices? I have been trying to trace my iMac sleep apnoea problem by noting setup changes and their effect. (iMac wakes from sleep after a short period - usually less than 30 minutes.) I am finding lots of red herrings in my pursuit of the cure! Some of my tests give inconsistent results. I have removed external devices, reset most preferences to default, deleted some .plists, removed unused third party programs, etc etc.One problem is that it can take up to one hour to conduct just one test, which involves a change then watching for the result (usually a bright active screen.) I am not ready to beg WAMUG help on the Sleep problem (yet!) as there still seems to be too many variables. A basic problem is that I don't know what all the general iMac good practices are. Q1. IMac is connected to router via an Ethernet cable. Should Air Port be turned off? Don't really need to. Only don't need it on if you have them both connected, ie you really shouldn't have a connection to your router via both Airport AND Ethernet. It creates two IP addresses for one machine and can create some headaches. (eg you might have two Ips like 192.168.0.3 and 192.168.0.4. It gets messy). But if not being used, no harm in having it on (or off for that matter). Q2. Should iMac be Restarted after each software change such as a preference or program deletion? Most preference changes seem to take immediate effect but a Restart seemed to be necessary to activate the Magic Mouse defaults after the Magic Preferences (mouse) program was deleted. Most software changes don't really need a restart. Only major updates, which will generally tell you (eg Safari 5.0.3, OS 10.6.6. And some others). If it doesn't tell you to restart, don't really need to on most occasions. Q3. Is it safe for deleted files to remain in Trash during the test period? For ever? I don't know if I'd call it safe. If you're not sure if you want it or not, just create a folder on the desktop called Undecided or something. Only put things in the trash you really don't want, and just empty it. That's my best practice. As I say to clients who put things in the trash, but won't empty it just incase. Someone else may not know your just in case and empty it. Then it's gone. You wouldn't put something in your green curbside bin,..just incase. Once that's gone, it's gone. :o) So personally, I'd say best practice is not put it there unless you really really don't want it. I like my trash can empty all the time, then I know if something has gone in there I didn't put there, so I can see. Q4. Are files (or copies) left on the Desktop (or in Trash) completely inactive (if I don't open them)? Yes, anything not open isn't being used. So fine sitting there. A desktop is exactly what it sounds like: a place to store temporary projects. Once you’re done working on a project, store it in a folder. The folder system is really well done on OSX, just go to Macintosh HD User YourName and you’ll find 8 different folder categories, ranging from music
Re: iMac Good Practices
Also, just to add to Ronni's as well, which she did mention about it slowing down, is that if you also have Show icon preview ticked (in Finder - View menu - Show View Options) then the more items you have on the desktop the computer has to draw all those little pictures while it starts up. Again, slowing it down. I like Ronni, like to have a clean desktop. I have a folder called Items and all my current work goes into that. Everything else gets filed to folders within Documents. Once I'm finished with things I then file them away to correct locations or deal with them. I then have my user directory (little house called daniel in my Dock, and with one click I can navigate right through all the levels of folders to get the file or info I want. I find this a) keeps the desktop clean and easier to work with b) help speed up the processes with no clutter. I also look at it (for me anyway) as a privacy issue. If I have nothing sitting on the desktop, then if someone walks past, or I'm showing them something, they don't see names of other clients. Ronda Brown quote.pdf for example (it might be sitting waiting to be emailed) or something similar. You never know how one person may know another person, and I feel this information should be hidden away. Again, these are just my views and the way I work with files etc. Everyone's filing system or ways of working will always be different. If it works for you, that's always the main thing I feel. I know sometimes out of sight out of mind comes into play. Oh,..I filed that away somewhere, where was it. Or months down the track,..oh yeh, that's right I was going to work on that file. Oops So yeh. If it works for you, that's the main thing ;)) Kind Regards Daniel On 17/2/11 3:02 PM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi Tim, Aliases on the Desktop would not make much difference. Perhaps I should have included a few more words like below, but I did not want Alan again accusing me of being Intimidating. The larger the files, the longer the Mac will take to read them when it loads up, slowing down other services and processes that are starting at the same time. The obvious fix for this is to move the files back to your Documents folder and keep them there. A clear desktop = a happy Mac. If you must have icons or things on your desktop, try creating Aliases for them instead. I prefer to drag folders of documents I¹m working on regularly onto the right side of the Dock where I can access/launch them quickly. Cheers, Ronni On 17/02/2011, at 2:32 PM, Tim Law wrote: Keeping your desktop clean is really important because every icon, folder or alias on it is loaded into the RAM, slowing your system down. So Ronni, are you saying that even tho an alias is just 'an alias' and only takes up a few kb, that it still takes enough RAM to make a difference? I assumed. :-) that aliases wouldn't cause too much of a problem so have a few on my desktop. I can understand that a full sized file or folder would take up a chunk of RAM, but am surprised that an alias has the same/some impact. Great suggestion to use the Dock, thanks Tim On 17/02/2011, at 2:18 PM, Ronda Brown wrote: Hi Alan, I will only add one comment to Daniel¹s excellent (as always) post. My comment is in regard to Q4 Files on the Desktop¹ and is in the colour purple¹. On 17/02/2011, at 2:03 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote: Hi Alan Some answers may be different for different people, but here's my opinion. (Each answer below your question) On 17/2/11 1:52 PM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote: What is the short list of iMac good practices? I have been trying to trace my iMac sleep apnoea problem by noting setup changes and their effect. (iMac wakes from sleep after a short period - usually less than 30 minutes.) I am finding lots of red herrings in my pursuit of the cure! Some of my tests give inconsistent results. I have removed external devices, reset most preferences to default, deleted some .plists, removed unused third party programs, etc etc.One problem is that it can take up to one hour to conduct just one test, which involves a change then watching for the result (usually a bright active screen.) I am not ready to beg WAMUG help on the Sleep problem (yet!) as there still seems to be too many variables. A basic problem is that I don't know what all the general iMac good practices are. Q1. IMac is connected to router via an Ethernet cable. Should Air Port be turned off? Don't really need to. Only don't need it on if you have them both connected, ie you really shouldn't have a connection to your router via both Airport AND Ethernet. It creates two IP addresses for one machine and can create some headaches. (eg you might have two Ips like 192.168.0.3 and 192.168.0.4. It gets messy). But if not being used, no harm in having it on (or off for that matter). Q2.
Re: Application startup problem
On 17/02/2011, at 3:06 PM, Severin Crisp wrote: I am observing ongoing problems with applications starting or not starting. The dock icon bounces forever and gets nowhere. A Force Quit followed by a try again usually fixes things. I believe that the problem is more frequent when I click on an icon in the dock rather than on the application icon itself, ie via an alias. This is widespread and includes Word, Acrobat Pro 9, iPhoto, Filemaker Pro most recently. I suspect the preference files, for no very good reason, and anyway the applications eventually fire up. As far as I can tell everything is up to date, caches clean, maintenance scripts run, permissions repaired etc. Suggestions welcomed! Severin Crisp G5 SP1.8 OSX 10.5.8 Hi Severin, How much RAM do you have installed on the G5? Also how much free space on your Hard Drive? Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro Intel Core i7 2.66GHz / 8GB / 1067 MHz DDR3 / 500GB Serial ATA Drive @ 7200rpm OS X 10.6.6 Snow Leopard Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance) -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
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Thanks Ronni, I had wondered if the OSX went and found the original to the alias and loaded that file into RAM, hence your concerns. But now I understand that better - ie. if anything NEEDS to be on the desktop, best be aliases. Ta Tim On 17/02/2011, at 3:02 PM, Ronda Brown wrote: Hi Tim, Aliases on the Desktop would not make much difference. Perhaps I should have included a few more words like below, but I did not want Alan again accusing me of being Intimidating. The larger the files, the longer the Mac will take to read them when it loads up, slowing down other services and processes that are starting at the same time. The obvious fix for this is to move the files back to your Documents folder and keep them there. A clear desktop = a happy Mac. If you must have icons or things on your desktop, try creating Aliases for them instead. I prefer to drag folders of documents I’m working on regularly onto the right side of the Dock where I can access/launch them quickly. Cheers, Ronni On 17/02/2011, at 2:32 PM, Tim Law wrote: Keeping your desktop clean is really important because every icon, folder or alias on it is loaded into the RAM, slowing your system down. So Ronni, are you saying that even tho an alias is just 'an alias' and only takes up a few kb, that it still takes enough RAM to make a difference? I assumed. :-) that aliases wouldn't cause too much of a problem so have a few on my desktop. I can understand that a full sized file or folder would take up a chunk of RAM, but am surprised that an alias has the same/some impact. Great suggestion to use the Dock, thanks Tim On 17/02/2011, at 2:18 PM, Ronda Brown wrote: Hi Alan, I will only add one comment to Daniel’s excellent (as always) post. My comment is in regard to Q4 ‘Files on the Desktop’ and is in the colour ‘purple’. On 17/02/2011, at 2:03 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote: Hi Alan Some answers may be different for different people, but here's my opinion. (Each answer below your question) On 17/2/11 1:52 PM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote: What is the short list of iMac good practices? I have been trying to trace my iMac sleep apnoea problem by noting setup changes and their effect. (iMac wakes from sleep after a short period - usually less than 30 minutes.) I am finding lots of red herrings in my pursuit of the cure! Some of my tests give inconsistent results. I have removed external devices, reset most preferences to default, deleted some .plists, removed unused third party programs, etc etc.One problem is that it can take up to one hour to conduct just one test, which involves a change then watching for the result (usually a bright active screen.) I am not ready to beg WAMUG help on the Sleep problem (yet!) as there still seems to be too many variables. A basic problem is that I don't know what all the general iMac good practices are. Q1. IMac is connected to router via an Ethernet cable. Should Air Port be turned off? Don't really need to. Only don't need it on if you have them both connected, ie you really shouldn't have a connection to your router via both Airport AND Ethernet. It creates two IP addresses for one machine and can create some headaches. (eg you might have two Ips like 192.168.0.3 and 192.168.0.4. It gets messy). But if not being used, no harm in having it on (or off for that matter). Q2. Should iMac be Restarted after each software change such as a preference or program deletion? Most preference changes seem to take immediate effect but a Restart seemed to be necessary to activate the Magic Mouse defaults after the Magic Preferences (mouse) program was deleted. Most software changes don't really need a restart. Only major updates, which will generally tell you (eg Safari 5.0.3, OS 10.6.6. And some others). If it doesn't tell you to restart, don't really need to on most occasions. Q3. Is it safe for deleted files to remain in Trash during the test period? For ever? I don't know if I'd call it safe. If you're not sure if you want it or not, just create a folder on the desktop called Undecided or something. Only put things in the trash you really don't want, and just empty it. That's my best practice. As I say to clients who put things in the trash, but won't empty it just incase. Someone else may not know your just in case and empty it. Then it's gone. You wouldn't put something in your green curbside bin,..just incase. Once that's gone, it's gone. :o) So personally, I'd say best practice is not put it there unless you really really don't want it. I like my trash can empty all the time, then I know if something has gone in there I didn't put there, so I can see. Q4. Are files (or copies) left on the Desktop (or in Trash) completely inactive (if I don't open them)? Yes, anything not open isn't being
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Hi Ronni and others This is really interesting and thanks heaps for speaking about it. I wasnt aware that files, folders and aliases on the desktop would take up ram and system efficiency. I also wasnt aware that it would be most efficient to use the Mac's folder system like you say Ronni. At the moment I have made a folder called Work (65000 items and 60gb of stuff) that sits with the Macs' folders; Applications, Documents, Library, Music etc etc. Would I be better off putting my 'Work' folder inside the Documents folder? I also can see the 'Documents' folder on the RH side of the Dock, and when I click it, it rapidly displays the folders with in Documents, on which I can click one and it opens in Finder, like normal. Is that what you are referring to Ronni? With this in mind, what is the optimum way to configure the filing/ folder system? Thanks heaps for any advice Best regards Chris (Im using a MBPro Intel Dual 2.2 with 4gb Ram) and it is running pretty slow!!) Christopher L.K. Burton Director Western Whale Research PO Box 1076 Dunsborough WA 6281 Mobile: 0419 199 120 Email: c...@it.net.au On 17/02/2011, at 3:02 PM, Ronda Brown wrote: Hi Tim, Aliases on the Desktop would not make much difference. Perhaps I should have included a few more words like below, but I did not want Alan again accusing me of being Intimidating. The larger the files, the longer the Mac will take to read them when it loads up, slowing down other services and processes that are starting at the same time. The obvious fix for this is to move the files back to your Documents folder and keep them there. A clear desktop = a happy Mac. If you must have icons or things on your desktop, try creating Aliases for them instead. I prefer to drag folders of documents I’m working on regularly onto the right side of the Dock where I can access/launch them quickly. Cheers, Ronni On 17/02/2011, at 2:32 PM, Tim Law wrote: Keeping your desktop clean is really important because every icon, folder or alias on it is loaded into the RAM, slowing your system down. So Ronni, are you saying that even tho an alias is just 'an alias' and only takes up a few kb, that it still takes enough RAM to make a difference? I assumed. :-) that aliases wouldn't cause too much of a problem so have a few on my desktop. I can understand that a full sized file or folder would take up a chunk of RAM, but am surprised that an alias has the same/some impact. Great suggestion to use the Dock, thanks Tim On 17/02/2011, at 2:18 PM, Ronda Brown wrote: Hi Alan, I will only add one comment to Daniel’s excellent (as always) post. My comment is in regard to Q4 ‘Files on the Desktop’ and is in the colour ‘purple’. On 17/02/2011, at 2:03 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote: Hi Alan Some answers may be different for different people, but here's my opinion. (Each answer below your question) On 17/2/11 1:52 PM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote: What is the short list of iMac good practices? I have been trying to trace my iMac sleep apnoea problem by noting setup changes and their effect. (iMac wakes from sleep after a short period - usually less than 30 minutes.) I am finding lots of red herrings in my pursuit of the cure! Some of my tests give inconsistent results. I have removed external devices, reset most preferences to default, deleted some .plists, removed unused third party programs, etc etc.One problem is that it can take up to one hour to conduct just one test, which involves a change then watching for the result (usually a bright active screen.) I am not ready to beg WAMUG help on the Sleep problem (yet!) as there still seems to be too many variables. A basic problem is that I don't know what all the general iMac good practices are. Q1. IMac is connected to router via an Ethernet cable. Should Air Port be turned off? Don't really need to. Only don't need it on if you have them both connected, ie you really shouldn't have a connection to your router via both Airport AND Ethernet. It creates two IP addresses for one machine and can create some headaches. (eg you might have two Ips like 192.168.0.3 and 192.168.0.4. It gets messy). But if not being used, no harm in having it on (or off for that matter). Q2. Should iMac be Restarted after each software change such as a preference or program deletion? Most preference changes seem to take immediate effect but a Restart seemed to be necessary to activate the Magic Mouse defaults after the Magic Preferences (mouse) program was deleted. Most software changes don't really need a restart. Only major updates, which will generally tell you (eg Safari 5.0.3, OS 10.6.6. And some others). If it doesn't tell you to restart, don't really need to on most occasions. Q3. Is it safe for deleted files to remain in Trash during the test period? For ever? I
Re: Application startup problem
4GB RAM and 470GB of free space on the startup drive. The RAM checks out OK with Tech Tool Pro. Severin On 17/02/2011, at 3:16 PM, Ronda Brown wrote: On 17/02/2011, at 3:06 PM, Severin Crisp wrote: I am observing ongoing problems with applications starting or not starting. The dock icon bounces forever and gets nowhere. A Force Quit followed by a try again usually fixes things. I believe that the problem is more frequent when I click on an icon in the dock rather than on the application icon itself, ie via an alias. This is widespread and includes Word, Acrobat Pro 9, iPhoto, Filemaker Pro most recently. I suspect the preference files, for no very good reason, and anyway the applications eventually fire up. As far as I can tell everything is up to date, caches clean, maintenance scripts run, permissions repaired etc. Suggestions welcomed! Severin Crisp G5 SP1.8 OSX 10.5.8 Hi Severin, How much RAM do you have installed on the G5? Also how much free space on your Hard Drive? Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro Intel Core i7 2.66GHz / 8GB / 1067 MHz DDR3 / 500GB Serial ATA Drive @ 7200rpm OS X 10.6.6 Snow Leopard Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance) -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au Assoc Professor R Severin Crisp, FIP, CPhys, FAIP 15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia. Phone (08) 9842 1950 (Int'l +61 8 9842 1950) email mailto:sevcr...@westnet.com.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
