Re: New MacBook Pro: Should I order 2.2 or 2.3 GHz i7?

[peta]

Thank you all for this.

Peta



On 07/03/2011, at 5:06 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:

> Hi Peta,
> 
> I would imagine because of my reply further down in this email.
> If you are heavy user in Photoshop and Final Cut Pro, I would suggest the
> 2.3GHz.
> 
> The 2.3GHz CPU has a larger L3 cache (8MB vs 6MB.) The increase in cache 
> is
> usually more important than the minimal increase in speed, depending on 
> what
> you do in Photoshop & FCP.
> 
> Aperture could use the extra.
> 
> Sent from Ronni's iPad
> 
> On 07/03/2011, at 4:06 PM, peta  wrote:
> 
>> Robin
>> 
>> Why?  Or in the words of a certain ex (I hope) politician - "please explain"?
>> 
>> Peta
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 07/03/2011, at 10:44 AM, Robin Belford wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> If you're going to use Aperture perhaps you should reconsider not going for 
>>> the fast processor and the extra cache?
>>> 
>>> robin
>>> 
>>> On 07/03/2011, at 9:55 AM, Daniel Kerr wrote:
>>> 
 
 Hi Reg
 
 As much as I hate to not give sales to stores, if you are looking at
 Aperture it's actually cheaper to download it from the MacStore if you're
 not worried about not getting a disk and little manual.
 It's $249 in the shops, $229 on the education store and $99.99 to download
 it from the MacStore.
 
 I'm not even going to get started on why they make it so cheap, as I don't
 want to start a flame war.
 
 But just thought I'd point it out.
 
 Kind Regards
 Daniel
 
 
 On 7/3/11 9:35 AM, "Reg Whitely"  wrote:
 
> Thank you to all who have replied to my query on MacBook Pro 15". I've 
> decided
> to go for the standard 2.2GHz / 750 Gb HDD with standard glossy display 
> and
> 8Gb RAM. I'll put the extra $$ saved by not getting the 2.3GHz upgrade 
> into an
> extended warranty. I'm also tempted to get Aperture 3 and have a nice play
> with it!
> 
> Regards
> 
> Reg
> 
> Reg Whitely
> 
> Home: 08 9921 7272
> Mob: 04 8899 7313
> Email: rwhit...@internode.on.net
> 
> 
> 
> On 06/03/2011, at 5:18 pm, Ronda Brown wrote:
> 
>> I agree with Ruben. To advise whether the 2.3GHz is worth the extra price
>> would depend on what you use the MBP for.
>> If you are heavy user in Photoshop and Final Cut Pro, I would suggest the
>> 2.3GHz.
>> 
>> The 2.3GHz CPU has a larger L3 cache (8MB vs 6MB.) The increase in cache 
>> is
>> usually more important than the minimal increase in speed, depending on 
>> what
>> you do in Photoshop & FCP.
>> 
>> Certainly go the biggest Hard Drive you can afford and extra RAM.
>> 
>> Re: The Glossy vs Anti-Glare … this debate has been going on for 
>> eternity ;-)
>> Some Professional Graphic Artists & Photographers say the Anti-Glare 
>> gives a
>> truer ‘Print’ colour than the Gloss.
>> 
>> The latest MBPs have high resolution displays, older MBPs you could get a
>> lower resolution Anti-Glare display.
>> 
>> I’ve had  anti-glare on my PowerBook & previous MacBook Pro, but I 
>> decided to
>> go with the Glossy Display on my current MBP.
>> I love the look of the glossy screen, the images have a deeper look with 
>> more
>> contrast. blacks are really black.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>> On 04/03/2011, at 12:26 AM, Dark1 wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm not sure whether the extra 100MHz is worth another $300 or not but 
>>> the
>>> performance gains you'll see will depend on what your using your 
>>> computer
>>> for.  If the programs your using can make use of all the threads 
>>> (including
>>> the hyperthreads) you'll get that extra 100MHz per core so it's 
>>> actually an
>>> extra 400 but if they only use a single thread its not nearly as good.
>>> Dunno about the displays but you can probably find info on that in the
>>> archives.
>>> 
>>> Ruben
>>> 
 Hi all WAMUGgers
 
 Long time since I asked a question. I'm thinking of buying a new 
 MacBook
 Pro 15". 
 Is the 2.3GHz i7 option worth the extra dollars over the 2.2?
 What are experiences with glossy v anti-glare displays?
 Any other tips?
 Will buy ed price and plan to salary sacrifice.
 
 Regards
 
 Reg
 
 Reg Whitely
 
 Home: 08 9921 7272
 Mob: 04 8899 7313
 Email: rwhit...@internode.on.net
 
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Re: Kogan bets $1 million dollars

[Eugene]

My thoughts:When Apple was a computer company it tried to sell its products through companies like Harvey Norman and Myers but this failed miserably. The sales people were largely unfamiliar with the product and they were just as likely to deride the Mac and encourage you to buy a PC.Apple wanted to control its sales so it developed its web shop and started to open its own stores and closed up its outlets in many stores.Then suddenly something changed - the iPod. Apple became an electronics focussed company not just a computer company. Slowly iPods begun to be sold again in Myers and Harveys. The iPhone broadened Apple’s appeal through the halo effect and the Macs became cool products that virtually sold themselves through slick styling, exquisite OS and sound engineering.Dell proved you can become the largest PC company in the world through online orders.Will Apple close up its third party retail storers and rely just on the Web store and Apple stores? Not in the near future. The bubble hasn’t burst and Apple will continue to expand through its 3rd party retail stores. Apple will continue to innovate and introduce other products besides computers.
                      Regards,                      Eugene                  

On 07/03/2011, at 9:12 PM, cm wrote:Hi all,Just my take on this bet. Apple has been working hard to cultivate large chains as partners. In the US it is Best Buy and Walmart. There are only about 320 Apple Stores worldwide with around 240 in the US! Australia has 10. These numbers are way to small to be the only customer contact outlets for Apple.Apple tends to favour retail chains that will follow the "store within a store" concept -- which is a small area of floor space solely with Apple products and Apple style display tables. My guess would be that Apple is looking for longer term relationships with amenable retail chains and has no intention at all of cutting these relationships off in two years.As for the bet itself, it has been limited to JB Hi-Fi, not to all retail outlets so maybe Kogan know of some unfavourable aspect of JB Hi-Fi's handling of Apple products or of its relationship with Apple. I think more likely Kogan is banking on the fact that Smart will not accept the bet. If Smart has no ongoing dispute with Apple I would advise him to accept the challenge! :-)Cheers,CarloOn 2011-03-07, at 16:59, rb...@iinet.net.au wrote:

At my conference they told us from 2003 Apple began the Revolution in the music industry with the iPod then iTunes store.
iTunes now accounts for a whopping 40% of (world?) music sales!

2008 was the phone revolution (iPhone)

and 2011 is about to usher in the PUBLISHING revolution - iBooks store will change the publishing world.

Blitto

 

On Mon Mar  7 16:36 , Stuart Evans  sent:



I think all vendors must be tempted...but there are risks.

I think it will happen, but I would guess more at 5-7 years.

Would a full online offering also mean a return to "base" warranty?

Lots of crystal ball stuff.



But... There are lots more important things to focus on









On 7/03/11 4:09 PM, "Daniel Kerr"  wrote:



> 

> LoL I was just reading that myself,...right before you posted it,..lol.

> 

> Yeh,..hmm,...30% of JB's sales?

> Wouldn't be surprised to see more AppleStores and less of the "others".

> 

> What's that saying,..what a wicked web they weave? Lol,...

> 

> Now, where did I leave my $1,000,000 so I can join his bet. Oh wait,..I'm

> short by about $999,950...oh well. Back to the drawing board.

> 

> Kind Regards

> Daniel

> 

> 

> On 7/3/11 4:02 PM, "Stuart Evans"  wrote:

> 

>> Hi all,

>> 

>> Interesting article...

>> http://www.news.com.au/technology/ruslan-kogan-challenges-jb-hi-fi-chief-to-

>> 1m-bet/story-e6frfro0-1226016953150

>> 

>> What do you think? Is he right? 3 years? Less or more?

>> 

>> Hopefully for some of us he loses his bet;-)

>> 

>> 

>> Warm regards,

>> Stuart 

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Re: Kogan bets $1 million dollars

[cm]

Hi all,

Just my take on this bet. Apple has been working hard to cultivate large chains 
as partners. In the US it is Best Buy and Walmart. There are only about 320 
Apple Stores worldwide with around 240 in the US! Australia has 10. These 
numbers are way to small to be the only customer contact outlets for Apple.

Apple tends to favour retail chains that will follow the "store within a store" 
concept -- which is a small area of floor space solely with Apple products and 
Apple style display tables. My guess would be that Apple is looking for longer 
term relationships with amenable retail chains and has no intention at all of 
cutting these relationships off in two years.

As for the bet itself, it has been limited to JB Hi-Fi, not to all retail 
outlets so maybe Kogan know of some unfavourable aspect of JB Hi-Fi's handling 
of Apple products or of its relationship with Apple. I think more likely Kogan 
is banking on the fact that Smart will not accept the bet. If Smart has no 
ongoing dispute with Apple I would advise him to accept the challenge! :-)

Cheers,
Carlo

On 2011-03-07, at 16:59, rb...@iinet.net.au wrote:

> At my conference they told us from 2003 Apple began the Revolution in the 
> music industry with the iPod then iTunes store.
> iTunes now accounts for a whopping 40% of (world?) music sales!
> 
> 2008 was the phone revolution (iPhone)
> 
> and 2011 is about to usher in the PUBLISHING revolution - iBooks store will 
> change the publishing world.
> 
> Blitto
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon Mar 7 16:36 , Stuart Evans sent:
> 
> 
> I think all vendors must be tempted...but there are risks.
> I think it will happen, but I would guess more at 5-7 years.
> Would a full online offering also mean a return to "base" warranty?
> Lots of crystal ball stuff.
> 
> But... There are lots more important things to focus on
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 7/03/11 4:09 PM, "Daniel Kerr"  wrote:
> 
> > 
> > LoL I was just reading that myself,...right before you posted it,..lol.
> > 
> > Yeh,..hmm,...30% of JB's sales?
> > Wouldn't be surprised to see more AppleStores and less of the "others".
> > 
> > What's that saying,..what a wicked web they weave? Lol,...
> > 
> > Now, where did I leave my $1,000,000 so I can join his bet. Oh wait,..I'm
> > short by about $999,950...oh well. Back to the drawing board.
> > 
> > Kind Regards
> > Daniel
> > 
> > 
> > On 7/3/11 4:02 PM, "Stuart Evans"  wrote:
> > 
> >> Hi all,
> >> 
> >> Interesting article...
> >> http://www.news.com.au/technology/ruslan-kogan-challenges-jb-hi-fi-chief-to-
> >> 1m-bet/story-e6frfro0-1226016953150
> >> 
> >> What do you think? Is he right? 3 years? Less or more?
> >> 
> >> Hopefully for some of us he loses his bet ;-)
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Warm regards,
> >> Stuart 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
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Re: restore erased files

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Hugh,

If only two reboots have happened it would certainly be worth trying Data 
Rescue.
I've managed to recover data from drives that were rebooted more than twice 
using Data Rescue 3.

If you don't have a copy or can't borrow a copy of Data Rescue, I guess the 
cost factor will be weighed against how important are the lost files?

Sent from Ronni's iPad

On 07/03/2011, at 8:45 PM, Hugh Griffiths  wrote:

> Thanks Ronni, I fear it is much too late as part of the reason for the erase 
> was the install of a very large DVD of photos and word docs, which In the 
> process caused my son to delete icons on the desktop, one of which was 
> safari. Somehow the desktop icon was the application and so safari needed to 
> be reinstalled after the erase, so two reboots later im sure the data is 
> gone. Another salutary lesson to back up, back up, back up
> 
>  
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> Best Regards
> 
> Hugh Griffiths
> 
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> From: wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au [mailto:wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au] On Behalf Of 
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> Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 8:31 PM
> To: WAMUG Mailing List
> Subject: Re: restore erased files
> 
>  
> 
> Hi Hugh,
> 
>  
> 
> It's important to stop using the computer immediately or as soon after the 
> trash was emptied.
> 
> Shut it down until you get a copy of Data Rescue 3. You have not mentioned 
> what version of OS your sister is running. Data Rescue 3 specifications:
> 
>  
> 
> ·  Mac OS X 10.4.11 or later, 512MB RAM minimum, 1GB or more recommended
> 
> ·  PowerPC G4, G5, or Intel, 1.0GHz processor minimum
> 
> ·  To prevent your files from being overwritten, Data Rescue 3 requires you 
> to have a second hard drive to recover 
> to
> 
>  
> 
> "Because the operating system doesn't immediately re-use space from deleted 
> files, we can recover trash Mac or recover deleted Mac files after emptying 
> trash bin for a considerable time afterwards. But the probability of 
> recovering trash Mac successfully decreases substantially the longer we use 
> the computer after selecting ‘Empty Trash’ option, because the Mac OS X may 
> overwrite this little free space very quickly with temp files. The greatest 
> chance of Mac trash recovery is to stop using the Mac machine once we emptied 
> trash bin. It is possible to recover deleted Mac files after emptying trash 
> bin folder."
> 
> Sent from Ronni's iPad
> 
> 
> On 07/03/2011, at 7:28 PM, Hugh Griffiths  wrote:
> 
> Hi, my son just emptied my sisters laptops trash and there was some stuff in 
> there that was important, what is the quickest  way to get it back ( he 
> didn’t use secure empty !)
> 
>  
> 
> Best Regards
> 
> Hugh Griffiths
> 
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RE: restore erased files

[Hugh Griffiths]

Thanks Ronni, I fear it is much too late as part of the reason for the erase 
was the install of a very large DVD of photos and word docs, which In the 
process caused my son to delete icons on the desktop, one of which was safari. 
Somehow the desktop icon was the application and so safari needed to be 
reinstalled after the erase, so two reboots later im sure the data is gone. 
Another salutary lesson to back up, back up, back up

Best Regards
Hugh Griffiths

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Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 8:31 PM
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Subject: Re: restore erased files

Hi Hugh,

It's important to stop using the computer immediately or as soon after the 
trash was emptied.
Shut it down until you get a copy of Data Rescue 3. You have not mentioned what 
version of OS your sister is running. Data Rescue 3 specifications:

•  Mac OS X 10.4.11 or later, 512MB RAM minimum, 1GB or more recommended
•  PowerPC G4, G5, or Intel, 1.0GHz processor minimum
•  To prevent your files from being overwritten, Data Rescue 3 requires you to 
have a second hard drive to recover 
to

"Because the operating system doesn't immediately re-use space from deleted 
files, we can recover trash Mac or recover deleted Mac files after emptying 
trash bin for a considerable time afterwards. But the probability of recovering 
trash Mac successfully decreases substantially the longer we use the computer 
after selecting ‘Empty Trash’ option, because the Mac OS X may overwrite this 
little free space very quickly with temp files. The greatest chance of Mac 
trash recovery is to stop using the Mac machine once we emptied trash bin. It 
is possible to recover deleted Mac files after emptying trash bin folder."

Sent from Ronni's iPad

On 07/03/2011, at 7:28 PM, Hugh Griffiths 
mailto:hgriffi...@lgc.com>> wrote:
Hi, my son just emptied my sisters laptops trash and there was some stuff in 
there that was important, what is the quickest  way to get it back ( he didn’t 
use secure empty !)

Best Regards
Hugh Griffiths

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Re: restore erased files

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Hugh,

It's important to stop using the computer immediately or as soon after the 
trash was emptied.
Shut it down until you get a copy of Data Rescue 3. You have not mentioned what 
version of OS your sister is running. Data Rescue 3 specifications:

Mac OS X 10.4.11 or later, 512MB RAM minimum, 1GB or more recommended
PowerPC G4, G5, or Intel, 1.0GHz processor minimum
To prevent your files from being overwritten, Data Rescue 3 requires you to 
have a second hard drive to recover to


"Because the operating system doesn't immediately re-use space from deleted 
files, we can recover trash Mac or recover deleted Mac files after emptying 
trash bin for a considerable time afterwards. But the probability of recovering 
trash Mac successfully decreases substantially the longer we use the computer 
after selecting ‘Empty Trash’ option, because the Mac OS X may overwrite this 
little free space very quickly with temp files. The greatest chance of Mac 
trash recovery is to stop using the Mac machine once we emptied trash bin. It 
is possible to recover deleted Mac files after emptying trash bin folder."

Sent from Ronni's iPad

On 07/03/2011, at 7:28 PM, Hugh Griffiths  wrote:

> Hi, my son just emptied my sisters laptops trash and there was some stuff in 
> there that was important, what is the quickest  way to get it back ( he 
> didn’t use secure empty !)
> 
>  
> 
> Best Regards
> 
> Hugh Griffiths
> 
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restore erased files

[Hugh Griffiths]

Hi, my son just emptied my sisters laptops trash and there was some stuff in 
there that was important, what is the quickest  way to get it back ( he didn't 
use secure empty !)

Best Regards
Hugh Griffiths

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Re: New MacBook Pro: Should I order 2.2 or 2.3 GHz i7?

[Robin Belford]

To put briefly, if browsing, email, a bit of text editing and maybe 
spreadsheets is the usage then there is no need for the fastest. 
If your work involves multimedia editing, e.g. Aperture, Final Cut Pro, 
Photoshop, iMovie, etc. then there is a benefit to be gained from additional 
processor speed and L2 cache. 

robin

On 07/03/2011, at 4:06 PM, peta wrote:

> Robin
> 
> Why?  Or in the words of a certain ex (I hope) politician - "please explain"?
> 
> Peta
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 07/03/2011, at 10:44 AM, Robin Belford wrote:
> 
>> 
>> If you're going to use Aperture perhaps you should reconsider not going for 
>> the fast processor and the extra cache?
>> 
>> robin
>> 
>> On 07/03/2011, at 9:55 AM, Daniel Kerr wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi Reg
>>> 
>>> As much as I hate to not give sales to stores, if you are looking at
>>> Aperture it's actually cheaper to download it from the MacStore if you're
>>> not worried about not getting a disk and little manual.
>>> It's $249 in the shops, $229 on the education store and $99.99 to download
>>> it from the MacStore.
>>> 
>>> I'm not even going to get started on why they make it so cheap, as I don't
>>> want to start a flame war.
>>> 
>>> But just thought I'd point it out.
>>> 
>>> Kind Regards
>>> Daniel
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 7/3/11 9:35 AM, "Reg Whitely"  wrote:
>>> 
 Thank you to all who have replied to my query on MacBook Pro 15". I've 
 decided
 to go for the standard 2.2GHz / 750 Gb HDD with standard glossy display and
 8Gb RAM. I'll put the extra $$ saved by not getting the 2.3GHz upgrade 
 into an
 extended warranty. I'm also tempted to get Aperture 3 and have a nice play
 with it!
 
 Regards
 
 Reg
 
 Reg Whitely
 
 Home: 08 9921 7272
 Mob: 04 8899 7313
 Email: rwhit...@internode.on.net
 
 
 
 On 06/03/2011, at 5:18 pm, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
> I agree with Ruben. To advise whether the 2.3GHz is worth the extra price
> would depend on what you use the MBP for.
> If you are heavy user in Photoshop and Final Cut Pro, I would suggest the
> 2.3GHz.
> 
> The 2.3GHz CPU has a larger L3 cache (8MB vs 6MB.) The increase in cache 
> is
> usually more important than the minimal increase in speed, depending on 
> what
> you do in Photoshop & FCP.
> 
> Certainly go the biggest Hard Drive you can afford and extra RAM.
> 
> Re: The Glossy vs Anti-Glare … this debate has been going on for eternity 
> ;-)
> Some Professional Graphic Artists & Photographers say the Anti-Glare 
> gives a
> truer ‘Print’ colour than the Gloss.
> 
> The latest MBPs have high resolution displays, older MBPs you could get a
> lower resolution Anti-Glare display.
> 
> I’ve had  anti-glare on my PowerBook & previous MacBook Pro, but I 
> decided to
> go with the Glossy Display on my current MBP.
> I love the look of the glossy screen, the images have a deeper look with 
> more
> contrast. blacks are really black.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> On 04/03/2011, at 12:26 AM, Dark1 wrote:
> 
>> I'm not sure whether the extra 100MHz is worth another $300 or not but 
>> the
>> performance gains you'll see will depend on what your using your computer
>> for.  If the programs your using can make use of all the threads 
>> (including
>> the hyperthreads) you'll get that extra 100MHz per core so it's actually 
>> an
>> extra 400 but if they only use a single thread its not nearly as good.
>> Dunno about the displays but you can probably find info on that in the
>> archives.
>> 
>> Ruben
>> 
>>> Hi all WAMUGgers
>>> 
>>> Long time since I asked a question. I'm thinking of buying a new MacBook
>>> Pro 15". 
>>> Is the 2.3GHz i7 option worth the extra dollars over the 2.2?
>>> What are experiences with glossy v anti-glare displays?
>>> Any other tips?
>>> Will buy ed price and plan to salary sacrifice.
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> 
>>> Reg
>>> 
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>>> 
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Re: New MacBook Pro: Should I order 2.2 or 2.3 GHz i7?

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Peta,

I would imagine because of my reply further down in this email.
 If you are heavy user in Photoshop and Final Cut Pro, I would suggest the
 2.3GHz.
 
 The 2.3GHz CPU has a larger L3 cache (8MB vs 6MB.) The increase in cache is
 usually more important than the minimal increase in speed, depending on 
 what
 you do in Photoshop & FCP.

Aperture could use the extra.

Sent from Ronni's iPad

On 07/03/2011, at 4:06 PM, peta  wrote:

> Robin
> 
> Why?  Or in the words of a certain ex (I hope) politician - "please explain"?
> 
> Peta
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 07/03/2011, at 10:44 AM, Robin Belford wrote:
> 
>> 
>> If you're going to use Aperture perhaps you should reconsider not going for 
>> the fast processor and the extra cache?
>> 
>> robin
>> 
>> On 07/03/2011, at 9:55 AM, Daniel Kerr wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi Reg
>>> 
>>> As much as I hate to not give sales to stores, if you are looking at
>>> Aperture it's actually cheaper to download it from the MacStore if you're
>>> not worried about not getting a disk and little manual.
>>> It's $249 in the shops, $229 on the education store and $99.99 to download
>>> it from the MacStore.
>>> 
>>> I'm not even going to get started on why they make it so cheap, as I don't
>>> want to start a flame war.
>>> 
>>> But just thought I'd point it out.
>>> 
>>> Kind Regards
>>> Daniel
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 7/3/11 9:35 AM, "Reg Whitely"  wrote:
>>> 
 Thank you to all who have replied to my query on MacBook Pro 15". I've 
 decided
 to go for the standard 2.2GHz / 750 Gb HDD with standard glossy display and
 8Gb RAM. I'll put the extra $$ saved by not getting the 2.3GHz upgrade 
 into an
 extended warranty. I'm also tempted to get Aperture 3 and have a nice play
 with it!
 
 Regards
 
 Reg
 
 Reg Whitely
 
 Home: 08 9921 7272
 Mob: 04 8899 7313
 Email: rwhit...@internode.on.net
 
 
 
 On 06/03/2011, at 5:18 pm, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
> I agree with Ruben. To advise whether the 2.3GHz is worth the extra price
> would depend on what you use the MBP for.
> If you are heavy user in Photoshop and Final Cut Pro, I would suggest the
> 2.3GHz.
> 
> The 2.3GHz CPU has a larger L3 cache (8MB vs 6MB.) The increase in cache 
> is
> usually more important than the minimal increase in speed, depending on 
> what
> you do in Photoshop & FCP.
> 
> Certainly go the biggest Hard Drive you can afford and extra RAM.
> 
> Re: The Glossy vs Anti-Glare … this debate has been going on for eternity 
> ;-)
> Some Professional Graphic Artists & Photographers say the Anti-Glare 
> gives a
> truer ‘Print’ colour than the Gloss.
> 
> The latest MBPs have high resolution displays, older MBPs you could get a
> lower resolution Anti-Glare display.
> 
> I’ve had  anti-glare on my PowerBook & previous MacBook Pro, but I 
> decided to
> go with the Glossy Display on my current MBP.
> I love the look of the glossy screen, the images have a deeper look with 
> more
> contrast. blacks are really black.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> On 04/03/2011, at 12:26 AM, Dark1 wrote:
> 
>> I'm not sure whether the extra 100MHz is worth another $300 or not but 
>> the
>> performance gains you'll see will depend on what your using your computer
>> for.  If the programs your using can make use of all the threads 
>> (including
>> the hyperthreads) you'll get that extra 100MHz per core so it's actually 
>> an
>> extra 400 but if they only use a single thread its not nearly as good.
>> Dunno about the displays but you can probably find info on that in the
>> archives.
>> 
>> Ruben
>> 
>>> Hi all WAMUGgers
>>> 
>>> Long time since I asked a question. I'm thinking of buying a new MacBook
>>> Pro 15". 
>>> Is the 2.3GHz i7 option worth the extra dollars over the 2.2?
>>> What are experiences with glossy v anti-glare displays?
>>> Any other tips?
>>> Will buy ed price and plan to salary sacrifice.
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> 
>>> Reg
>>> 
>>> Reg Whitely
>>> 
>>> Home: 08 9921 7272
>>> Mob: 04 8899 7313
>>> Email: rwhit...@internode.on.net
>>> 
> 
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Re: Kogan bets $1 million dollars

[rb...@iinet.net.au]

Re: Kogan bets $1 million dollars

[Stuart Evans]

I think all vendors must be tempted...but there are risks.
I think it will happen, but I would guess more at 5-7 years.
Would a full online offering also mean a return to "base" warranty?
Lots of crystal ball stuff.

But... There are lots more important things to focus on




On 7/03/11 4:09 PM, "Daniel Kerr"  wrote:

> 
> LoL I was just reading that myself,...right before you posted it,..lol.
> 
> Yeh,..hmm,...30% of JB's sales?
> Wouldn't be surprised to see more AppleStores and less of the "others".
> 
> What's that saying,..what a wicked web they weave? Lol,...
> 
> Now, where did I leave my $1,000,000 so I can join his bet. Oh wait,..I'm
> short by about $999,950...oh well. Back to the drawing board.
> 
> Kind Regards
> Daniel
> 
> 
> On 7/3/11 4:02 PM, "Stuart Evans"  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Interesting article...
>> http://www.news.com.au/technology/ruslan-kogan-challenges-jb-hi-fi-chief-to-
>> 1m-bet/story-e6frfro0-1226016953150
>> 
>> What do you think? Is he right? 3 years? Less or more?
>> 
>> Hopefully for some of us he loses his bet;-)
>> 
>> 
>> Warm regards,
>> Stuart 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 
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Re: Kogan bets $1 million dollars

[lem1]

The issue is Apples consumer products really do need a wider distribution than 
simple apple centred stores.
So I expect some to simply be product stockist such as target etc, and more 
upmarket services run by apple direct.

As given the turnover requirements for a Apple retail store, they just don't 
suit certain market.  THough I would say looking at the JB Hifi figures I think 
they would have grouped in all the additional accessories people buy for their 
apple products not made by Apple to get to 30%. 






On 07/03/2011, at 4:09 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:

> 
> LoL I was just reading that myself,...right before you posted it,..lol.
> 
> Yeh,..hmm,...30% of JB's sales?
> Wouldn't be surprised to see more AppleStores and less of the "others".
> 
> What's that saying,..what a wicked web they weave? Lol,...
> 
> Now, where did I leave my $1,000,000 so I can join his bet. Oh wait,..I'm
> short by about $999,950...oh well. Back to the drawing board.
> 
> Kind Regards
> Daniel
> 
> 
> On 7/3/11 4:02 PM, "Stuart Evans"  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Interesting article...
>> http://www.news.com.au/technology/ruslan-kogan-challenges-jb-hi-fi-chief-to-
>> 1m-bet/story-e6frfro0-1226016953150
>> 
>> What do you think? Is he right? 3 years? Less or more?
>> 
>> Hopefully for some of us he loses his bet;-)
>> 
>> 
>> Warm regards,
>> Stuart 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: Kogan bets $1 million dollars

[Daniel Kerr]

LoL I was just reading that myself,...right before you posted it,..lol.

Yeh,..hmm,...30% of JB's sales?
Wouldn't be surprised to see more AppleStores and less of the "others".

What's that saying,..what a wicked web they weave? Lol,...

Now, where did I leave my $1,000,000 so I can join his bet. Oh wait,..I'm
short by about $999,950...oh well. Back to the drawing board.

Kind Regards
Daniel


On 7/3/11 4:02 PM, "Stuart Evans"  wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> Interesting article...
> http://www.news.com.au/technology/ruslan-kogan-challenges-jb-hi-fi-chief-to-
> 1m-bet/story-e6frfro0-1226016953150
> 
> What do you think? Is he right? 3 years? Less or more?
> 
> Hopefully for some of us he loses his bet;-)
> 
> 
> Warm regards,
> Stuart 
> 
>  
> 
> 
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Re: New MacBook Pro: Should I order 2.2 or 2.3 GHz i7?

[peta]

Robin

Why?  Or in the words of a certain ex (I hope) politician - "please explain"?

Peta




On 07/03/2011, at 10:44 AM, Robin Belford wrote:

> 
> If you're going to use Aperture perhaps you should reconsider not going for 
> the fast processor and the extra cache?
> 
> robin
> 
> On 07/03/2011, at 9:55 AM, Daniel Kerr wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Hi Reg
>> 
>> As much as I hate to not give sales to stores, if you are looking at
>> Aperture it's actually cheaper to download it from the MacStore if you're
>> not worried about not getting a disk and little manual.
>> It's $249 in the shops, $229 on the education store and $99.99 to download
>> it from the MacStore.
>> 
>> I'm not even going to get started on why they make it so cheap, as I don't
>> want to start a flame war.
>> 
>> But just thought I'd point it out.
>> 
>> Kind Regards
>> Daniel
>> 
>> 
>> On 7/3/11 9:35 AM, "Reg Whitely"  wrote:
>> 
>>> Thank you to all who have replied to my query on MacBook Pro 15". I've 
>>> decided
>>> to go for the standard 2.2GHz / 750 Gb HDD with standard glossy display and
>>> 8Gb RAM. I'll put the extra $$ saved by not getting the 2.3GHz upgrade into 
>>> an
>>> extended warranty. I'm also tempted to get Aperture 3 and have a nice play
>>> with it!
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> 
>>> Reg
>>> 
>>> Reg Whitely
>>> 
>>> Home: 08 9921 7272
>>> Mob: 04 8899 7313
>>> Email: rwhit...@internode.on.net
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 06/03/2011, at 5:18 pm, Ronda Brown wrote:
>>> 
 I agree with Ruben. To advise whether the 2.3GHz is worth the extra price
 would depend on what you use the MBP for.
 If you are heavy user in Photoshop and Final Cut Pro, I would suggest the
 2.3GHz.
 
 The 2.3GHz CPU has a larger L3 cache (8MB vs 6MB.) The increase in cache is
 usually more important than the minimal increase in speed, depending on 
 what
 you do in Photoshop & FCP.
 
 Certainly go the biggest Hard Drive you can afford and extra RAM.
 
 Re: The Glossy vs Anti-Glare … this debate has been going on for eternity 
 ;-)
 Some Professional Graphic Artists & Photographers say the Anti-Glare gives 
 a
 truer ‘Print’ colour than the Gloss.
 
 The latest MBPs have high resolution displays, older MBPs you could get a
 lower resolution Anti-Glare display.
 
 I’ve had  anti-glare on my PowerBook & previous MacBook Pro, but I decided 
 to
 go with the Glossy Display on my current MBP.
 I love the look of the glossy screen, the images have a deeper look with 
 more
 contrast. blacks are really black.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 On 04/03/2011, at 12:26 AM, Dark1 wrote:
 
> I'm not sure whether the extra 100MHz is worth another $300 or not but the
> performance gains you'll see will depend on what your using your computer
> for.  If the programs your using can make use of all the threads 
> (including
> the hyperthreads) you'll get that extra 100MHz per core so it's actually 
> an
> extra 400 but if they only use a single thread its not nearly as good.
> Dunno about the displays but you can probably find info on that in the
> archives.
> 
> Ruben
> 
>> Hi all WAMUGgers
>> 
>> Long time since I asked a question. I'm thinking of buying a new MacBook
>> Pro 15". 
>> Is the 2.3GHz i7 option worth the extra dollars over the 2.2?
>> What are experiences with glossy v anti-glare displays?
>> Any other tips?
>> Will buy ed price and plan to salary sacrifice.
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> Reg
>> 
>> Reg Whitely
>> 
>> Home: 08 9921 7272
>> Mob: 04 8899 7313
>> Email: rwhit...@internode.on.net
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Re: Another MYOB question

[John Daniels]

Thanks Alex and Julie I'll check on the MYOB version.
Cheers
John 

On 06/03/2011, at 10:55 PM, Alex wrote:

> Hi John
> 
> is the "5" in MYOB 5 correct?  That is an extremely old version.  Windows 
> MYOB is running on v19.5 now.  What would you be running on the Mac?  The 
> data files are cross-platform compatible but you need to have matching 
> versions of the programmes. It is do-able one way or the other!
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Alex
> 
> 
> On 06/03/2011, at 10:45 PM, John Daniels wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Hi all
>> Does anyone know if the info on Myob 5 on a  Windoz  machine can be uploaded 
>> to Mac SL?
>> Cheers
>> John
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Kogan bets $1 million dollars

[Stuart Evans]

Hi all,

Interesting article...
http://www.news.com.au/technology/ruslan-kogan-challenges-jb-hi-fi-chief-to-
1m-bet/story-e6frfro0-1226016953150

What do you think? Is he right? 3 years? Less or more?

Hopefully for some of us he loses his bet;-)


Warm regards,
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