Re: Updates for things under Lion

[Eugene]

MicroSoft offers the HUP (Home use Program) to any corporation. In the US it is $9.95. The M$ Australian site takes you to the same page and cost - I guess they're easy lazy or it's the same price
                      Regards,                      Eugene                  

On 22/07/2011, at 1:36 PM, Reg Whitely wrote:Hi GeraldIf you are in education in WA DET, you can buy home use Office 2011 for Mac for $15.You can also buy Office 2009 for Win, and Win 7 Ultimate for same price. Worth considering. See Data#3 link below:https://Licensing.data3.com.auLogin: doewaPassword: wah10Ref Eddymail last term!Reg
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On 22/07/2011, at 1:07 pm, localadmin wrote:Yes Office 2004 so we are out of that  not really that sad as I use iWorks mostlyBUT would love to be able to use  Appleworksany ideas??ThanksGeraldOn 22/07/2011, at 1:00 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:On 22/07/2011, at 12:52 PM, localadmin wrote:Hi everybody out thereHave just updated to LionBUTMicrosoft Office and Appleworks do not now workDon't care really about Office  BUTDo love the old AppleworksAnybody know how to up date these??Many thanksGerald & Valerie LLOYDlloy...@iinet.net.auAppleworks will not work in Lion OS X 10.7ONLY Universal & Intel will run in Lion OS X 10.7What version of Microsoft Office do you have. If its Microsoft Office 2004 it is NOT compatible with Lion.Cheers,Ronni17" MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt"2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HDOS X 10.6.8 Snow LeopardWindows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)



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Re: Updates for things under Lion

[Reg Whitely]

Hi Gerald

If you are in education in WA DET, you can buy home use Office 2011 for Mac for 
$15.
You can also buy Office 2009 for Win, and Win 7 Ultimate for same price. Worth 
considering. See Data#3 link below:

https://Licensing.data3.com.au

Login: doewa
Password: wah10
Ref Eddymail last term!

Reg

Reg Whitely

Home: 08 9921 7272
Mob: 04 8899 7313
Email: rwhit...@internode.on.net



On 22/07/2011, at 1:07 pm, localadmin wrote:

> Yes Office 2004 so we are out of that  not really that sad as I use iWorks 
> mostly
> 
> BUT would love to be able to use  Appleworks
> 
> any ideas??
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Gerald
> On 22/07/2011, at 1:00 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On 22/07/2011, at 12:52 PM, localadmin wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi everybody out there
>>> 
>>> Have just updated to Lion
>>> 
>>> BUT
>>> 
>>> Microsoft Office and Appleworks do not now work
>>> 
>>> Don't care really about Office  
>>> BUT
>>> Do love the old Appleworks
>>> 
>>> Anybody know how to up date these??
>>> 
>>> Many thanks
>>> 
>>> Gerald & Valerie LLOYD
>>> lloy...@iinet.net.au
>> 
>> Appleworks will not work in Lion OS X 10.7
>> ONLY Universal & Intel will run in Lion OS X 10.7
>> 
>> What version of Microsoft Office do you have. 
>> If its Microsoft Office 2004 it is NOT compatible with Lion.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>> 
>> 17" MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt"
>> 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
>> 
>> OS X 10.6.8 Snow Leopard
>> Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
>> 
>> 
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Re: Updates for things under Lion

[Ronda Brown]

Hi localadmin,

We covered this fairly thoroughly back in June.
On 09/06/11 one post Re: Preparation for Lion from myself mentioned this:
Prepare For Lion OS X 10.7 

1. Make sure your Mac can run Lion:

Your Mac must have an Intel Core 2 Duo, Core i3, Core i5, Core i7, or Xeon 
processor to run Lion. 
Find out if your current Mac has one of these processors by clicking the Apple 
icon at the top left of your screen, then choosing About This Mac.

2. Make sure you have the latest version of Snow Leopard.

Get up to date with the latest version of OS X Snow Leopard to purchase OS X 
Lion from the Mac App Store. If you have Snow Leopard, click the Apple icon and 
choose Software Update to install the latest version.

3. Check your Applications 

A) Use System Profiler to check all your Applications. Go to "About This Mac" 
under the Apple Menu, and click the "More Info" button. This will launch System 
Profiler. 

Scroll down the list of contents at the left of the window until you get to the 
"Software" section and click on "Applications". 

Give the list a few moments to populate, then look for your application in the 
list. Widen the window if necessary until you see the "Kind" column. You can 
sort this column by clicking on the column header to make searching easier. 

Any items labelled "Classic" or "PowerPC" will not work with Lion. 
ONLY Universal & Intel will run in Lion OS X 10.7

B) Check all your Applications you might be running and see if they have 
updates.

C) Clean Up your computer. Uninstall old software you no longer use or require 
(if you don’t have the uninstaller for the application, download & use 
AppZapper (which is not free)  or AppCleaner (free) 

I prefer using AppZapper to delete any applications.

D) Delete any old files you no longer need. 

E) If you use any add-on software such as plug-ins for mail or programs that 
rely on input managers such as 1Password & Google Desktop, make sure you have 
upgraded to Lion-compatible versions before you upgrade.

4. Download OS X Lion from the Mac App Store.
When OS X Lion is released in July, open the Mac App Store from your Dock to 
buy and download it. 
Then follow the onscreen instructions to install Lion.

DON’T FORGET:
1. Backup your system BEFORE installing 

2. Repair Permissions before installing 

3. Turn OFF Time Machine in System Preferences

4. Unmount & Disconnect any External USB & Firewire Drives / Time Machine

5. Run Software Update after installing 

7. Repair Permissions

8. Connect your Backup Drive

9. Go to System Preferences > Time Machine and Turn Time Machine ON
Let Time Machine complete a  backup.

** Apple warning for installing Updates: 
Do not interrupt the installation process once you have started to update your 
system.

As I have said numerous times on WAMUG List “Do Not Upgrade if anything is 
amiss with your system”.

As is the case with all upgrades/updates, if there’s anything at all amiss with 
your system before the upgrade/update, the upgrade/update is likely to expose 
them.
——
Then Peter mentioned this about Appleworks:
On 25/06/11 one post  Re: Preparation for LION, from Peter Hinchliffe mentioned 
this:

AppleWorks WP files - will open in Pages (iWork)
AppleWorks Spreadsheet files - will open in Numbers (iWork)
AppleWorks Database files  - export as text files and open with Bento 
(www.filemaker.com)
AppleWorks Drawing files - Open with Intaglio 
(http://www.purgatorydesign.com/Intaglio/) or Eazydraw 
(http://www.eazydraw.com/ - NOT the App Store version)
AppleWorks Presentation files - will open in Keynote (iWork)

Cheers,
Ronni


On 22/07/2011, at 1:07 PM, localadmin wrote:

> Yes Office 2004 so we are out of that  not really that sad as I use iWorks 
> mostly
> 
> BUT would love to be able to use  Appleworks
> 
> any ideas??
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Gerald
> On 22/07/2011, at 1:00 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On 22/07/2011, at 12:52 PM, localadmin wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi everybody out there
>>> 
>>> Have just updated to Lion
>>> 
>>> BUT
>>> 
>>> Microsoft Office and Appleworks do not now work
>>> 
>>> Don't care really about Office  
>>> BUT
>>> Do love the old Appleworks
>>> 
>>> Anybody know how to up date these??
>>> 
>>> Many thanks
>>> 
>>> Gerald & Valerie LLOYD
>>> lloy...@iinet.net.au
>> 
>> Appleworks will not work in Lion OS X 10.7
>> ONLY Universal & Intel will run in Lion OS X 10.7
>> 
>> What version of Microsoft Office do you have. 
>> If its Microsoft Office 2004 it is NOT compatible with Lion.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>> 
>> 17" MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt"
>> 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
>> 
>> OS X 10.6.8 Snow Leopard
>> Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
>> 
>> 
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Re: Updates for things under Lion

[Rod Lavington]

Buy an old PowerBook :)  its cheaper and far less hassle get appleworks to
run than your Intel mac with lion :)

Seeya

Rod
On Jul 22, 2011 1:12 PM, "localadmin"  wrote:
> Yes Office 2004 so we are out of that not really that sad as I use iWorks
mostly
>
> BUT would love to be able to use Appleworks
>
> any ideas??
>
> Thanks
>
> Gerald
> On 22/07/2011, at 1:00 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
>
>>
>> On 22/07/2011, at 12:52 PM, localadmin wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi everybody out there
>>>
>>> Have just updated to Lion
>>>
>>> BUT
>>>
>>> Microsoft Office and Appleworks do not now work
>>>
>>> Don't care really about Office
>>> BUT
>>> Do love the old Appleworks
>>>
>>> Anybody know how to up date these??
>>>
>>> Many thanks
>>>
>>> Gerald & Valerie LLOYD
>>> lloy...@iinet.net.au
>>
>> Appleworks will not work in Lion OS X 10.7
>> ONLY Universal & Intel will run in Lion OS X 10.7
>>
>> What version of Microsoft Office do you have.
>> If its Microsoft Office 2004 it is NOT compatible with Lion.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>>
>> 17" MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt"
>> 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
>>
>> OS X 10.6.8 Snow Leopard
>> Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Updates for things under Lion

[localadmin]

Yes Office 2004 so we are out of that  not really that sad as I use iWorks 
mostly

BUT would love to be able to use  Appleworks

any ideas??

Thanks

Gerald
On 22/07/2011, at 1:00 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:

> 
> On 22/07/2011, at 12:52 PM, localadmin wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Hi everybody out there
>> 
>> Have just updated to Lion
>> 
>> BUT
>> 
>> Microsoft Office and Appleworks do not now work
>> 
>> Don't care really about Office  
>> BUT
>> Do love the old Appleworks
>> 
>> Anybody know how to up date these??
>> 
>> Many thanks
>> 
>> Gerald & Valerie LLOYD
>> lloy...@iinet.net.au
> 
> Appleworks will not work in Lion OS X 10.7
> ONLY Universal & Intel will run in Lion OS X 10.7
> 
> What version of Microsoft Office do you have. 
> If its Microsoft Office 2004 it is NOT compatible with Lion.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> 17" MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt"
> 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
> 
> OS X 10.6.8 Snow Leopard
> Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
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Re: Updates for things under Lion

[Rod Lavington]

Appleworks will never work as it is a PowerPC app, and Rosetta is not in
Lion.   You either have to set up.a dual boot system with 10.6 and 10.7, or
look for alternatives such as iwork and bento.

Seeya

Rod!
On Jul 22, 2011 12:58 PM, "localadmin"  wrote:
>
> Hi everybody out there
>
> Have just updated to Lion
>
> BUT
>
> Microsoft Office and Appleworks do not now work
>
> Don't care really about Office
> BUT
> Do love the old Appleworks
>
> Anybody know how to up date these??
>
> Many thanks
>
> Gerald & Valerie LLOYD
> lloy...@iinet.net.au
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Updates for things under Lion

[Ronda Brown]

On 22/07/2011, at 12:52 PM, localadmin wrote:

> 
> Hi everybody out there
> 
> Have just updated to Lion
> 
> BUT
> 
> Microsoft Office and Appleworks do not now work
> 
> Don't care really about Office  
> BUT
> Do love the old Appleworks
> 
> Anybody know how to up date these??
> 
> Many thanks
> 
> Gerald & Valerie LLOYD
> lloy...@iinet.net.au

Appleworks will not work in Lion OS X 10.7
ONLY Universal & Intel will run in Lion OS X 10.7

What version of Microsoft Office do you have. 
If its Microsoft Office 2004 it is NOT compatible with Lion.

Cheers,
Ronni

17" MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt"
2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD

OS X 10.6.8 Snow Leopard
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Updates for things under Lion

[localadmin]

Hi everybody out there

Have just updated to Lion

BUT

Microsoft Office and Appleworks do not now work

Don't care really about Office  
BUT
Do love the old Appleworks

Anybody know how to up date these??

Many thanks

Gerald & Valerie LLOYD
lloy...@iinet.net.au







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Re: Lion - step backwards?

[Skehan Adrian]

It works great on my iMac.


Regards,

Adrian
adrianske...@me.com

On 22/07/2011, at 11:53 AM, Rod Lavington wrote:

> Unless you have a magic trackpad :)
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Rod
> On Jul 22, 2011 11:46 AM, "Tim Law"  wrote:
> > 
> > Do I assume that the swiping and dragging feature is only relevant to
> > laptop users?
> > And that desktop users don't get any benefit from this particular part of 
> > Lion?
> > 
> > Tim
> > 
> > On Friday, 22 July 2011, cm  wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> I guess liking or not liking a piece of software is a personal choice 
> >> affected by many factors, but speaking for myself I think Lion is 
> >> fantastic! I have been using it for about four weeks now and the gestures 
> >> have become second nature. Also Mission Control gives a superb overview of 
> >> all running applications -- I personally hardly ever use Dashboard, so I 
> >> unchecked the System Preference "Show Dashboard as a space". I can still 
> >> access Dashboard using the F4 key on my MacBook Pro (it's a different key 
> >> on an iMac). Another setting that I have become used to, even during the 
> >> Snow Leopard era, is the three finger drag. This means that switching 
> >> spaces in Mission control has been bumped for me to a four finger gesture.
> >>
> >> The graphics are hyper responsive! Switching desktops is an instantaneous 
> >> operation and once can even move the screen across in slow motion. The 
> >> inertia and responsiveness of the two finger scroll is reminiscent of an 
> >> iPad. I also use Launchpad often and access it via the three finger plus 
> >> thumb pinch.
> >>
> >> I think that another clever aspect of Lion is that Apple has maintained 
> >> backward compatibility of keystrokes and mouse clicks. If you don't want 
> >> to use the new gestures, or if you want to phase them in gradually, you 
> >> can still get by using the old keystroke combinations.
> >>
> >> I like the full screen view for some apps, like Safari, but prefer to run 
> >> Mail on its own desktop so that responding to an email does not tie up the 
> >> main interface. Pages and Numbers are better in full screen mode for me. 
> >> Unless I need to work on multiple documents, full screen removed 
> >> distractions. The automatic versioning and saving is a breakthrough and I 
> >> have already benefited from versions.
> >>
> >> There are some rough edges that I hope will be fixed in OS X 10.7.1. There 
> >> was a lot of pressure to get Lion out the door because it was holding up 
> >> the release of new hardware, so a few things are not as polished as they 
> >> should be. The problems, however, a likely easily fixed over the coming 
> >> weeks.
> >>
> >> * Mail has become unstable. I find that when overloaded it will crash. 
> >> This happens to me about once every two days. Fortunately automatic saving 
> >> means that the most I have lost is two words.
> >> * Safari in full screen mode does not behave properly when one reverse 
> >> pinch zooms in. The text, rather than being laid out afresh and wrapping 
> >> correctly, just extends beyond the edge of the screen.
> >> * I have had some initial trouble reconnecting to my router on wake up, 
> >> but this problem seems to have disappeared by itself. I think the release 
> >> version may have corrected this as I was using the developer GM version 
> >> until yesterday.
> >>
> >> I have submitted reports to Apple for the first two of the above defects 
> >> -- the Mail crash report being automatically generated.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Carlo
> >>
> >> On 2011-07-21, at 23:18, rkor...@iinet.net.au wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Hi Guys
> >>>
> >>> I have installed it on a new 15" MBP at the office and I will use that 
> >>> for testing, I have only had it up and running for about 2
> >>> hours now and haven't really formed an opinion as of yet.
> >>>
> >>> Somethings are quite different and on first impressions I don't like them 
> >>> but I want to see if it grows on me, at the moment I
> >>> am trying to get our VPN working on it so far its not haha.
> >>>
> >>> I can imagine that things like the autosave and resume will be very 
> >>> welcome here so will see how I go over the next few
> >>> weeks testing the applications CS suite, Office and our legacy stuff!!
> >>>
> >>> Roger
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Thu Jul 21 23:10 , Daniel Kerr  sent:
> >>>
> 
>  Hi Steven
> 
>  I must admit I do agree with you with some of this.
>  Some thing stand out as being slightly better, but some of it, like you
>  say,..I just can't put my finger on it. For some of it, I thought, it 
>  didn't
>  seem as "Apple polished" as it should be. Some things seemed a bit 
>  "chunky"
>  or not finished off,..or just something.
>  I can't quite put my finger on it,..but it doesn't seem the "Apple 
>  smooth"
>  go the extra mile stand out graphics (or something) that it should be.
>  (And I'm running it on a MacPro with 18GB RAM, 5770 1GB Video card o

Re: Lion - step backwards?

[Susan Hastings]

You can swipe from side to side and up and down using the Magic Mouse, I 
haven't tried other stuff.
On 22/07/2011, at 11:53 AM, Rod Lavington wrote:

> Unless you have a magic trackpad :)
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Rod
> On Jul 22, 2011 11:46 AM, "Tim Law"  wrote:
> > 
> > Do I assume that the swiping and dragging feature is only relevant to
> > laptop users?
> > And that desktop users don't get any benefit from this particular part of 
> > Lion?
> > 
> > Tim
> > 
> > On Friday, 22 July 2011, cm  wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> I guess liking or not liking a piece of software is a personal choice 
> >> affected by many factors, but speaking for myself I think Lion is 
> >> fantastic! I have been using it for about four weeks now and the gestures 
> >> have become second nature. Also Mission Control gives a superb overview of 
> >> all running applications -- I personally hardly ever use Dashboard, so I 
> >> unchecked the System Preference "Show Dashboard as a space". I can still 
> >> access Dashboard using the F4 key on my MacBook Pro (it's a different key 
> >> on an iMac). Another setting that I have become used to, even during the 
> >> Snow Leopard era, is the three finger drag. This means that switching 
> >> spaces in Mission control has been bumped for me to a four finger gesture.
> >>
> >> The graphics are hyper responsive! Switching desktops is an instantaneous 
> >> operation and once can even move the screen across in slow motion. The 
> >> inertia and responsiveness of the two finger scroll is reminiscent of an 
> >> iPad. I also use Launchpad often and access it via the three finger plus 
> >> thumb pinch.
> >>
> >> I think that another clever aspect of Lion is that Apple has maintained 
> >> backward compatibility of keystrokes and mouse clicks. If you don't want 
> >> to use the new gestures, or if you want to phase them in gradually, you 
> >> can still get by using the old keystroke combinations.
> >>
> >> I like the full screen view for some apps, like Safari, but prefer to run 
> >> Mail on its own desktop so that responding to an email does not tie up the 
> >> main interface. Pages and Numbers are better in full screen mode for me. 
> >> Unless I need to work on multiple documents, full screen removed 
> >> distractions. The automatic versioning and saving is a breakthrough and I 
> >> have already benefited from versions.
> >>
> >> There are some rough edges that I hope will be fixed in OS X 10.7.1. There 
> >> was a lot of pressure to get Lion out the door because it was holding up 
> >> the release of new hardware, so a few things are not as polished as they 
> >> should be. The problems, however, a likely easily fixed over the coming 
> >> weeks.
> >>
> >> * Mail has become unstable. I find that when overloaded it will crash. 
> >> This happens to me about once every two days. Fortunately automatic saving 
> >> means that the most I have lost is two words.
> >> * Safari in full screen mode does not behave properly when one reverse 
> >> pinch zooms in. The text, rather than being laid out afresh and wrapping 
> >> correctly, just extends beyond the edge of the screen.
> >> * I have had some initial trouble reconnecting to my router on wake up, 
> >> but this problem seems to have disappeared by itself. I think the release 
> >> version may have corrected this as I was using the developer GM version 
> >> until yesterday.
> >>
> >> I have submitted reports to Apple for the first two of the above defects 
> >> -- the Mail crash report being automatically generated.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Carlo
> >>
> >> On 2011-07-21, at 23:18, rkor...@iinet.net.au wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Hi Guys
> >>>
> >>> I have installed it on a new 15" MBP at the office and I will use that 
> >>> for testing, I have only had it up and running for about 2
> >>> hours now and haven't really formed an opinion as of yet.
> >>>
> >>> Somethings are quite different and on first impressions I don't like them 
> >>> but I want to see if it grows on me, at the moment I
> >>> am trying to get our VPN working on it so far its not haha.
> >>>
> >>> I can imagine that things like the autosave and resume will be very 
> >>> welcome here so will see how I go over the next few
> >>> weeks testing the applications CS suite, Office and our legacy stuff!!
> >>>
> >>> Roger
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Thu Jul 21 23:10 , Daniel Kerr  sent:
> >>>
> 
>  Hi Steven
> 
>  I must admit I do agree with you with some of this.
>  Some thing stand out as being slightly better, but some of it, like you
>  say,..I just can't put my finger on it. For some of it, I thought, it 
>  didn't
>  seem as "Apple polished" as it should be. Some things seemed a bit 
>  "chunky"
>  or not finished off,..or just something.
>  I can't quite put my finger on it,..but it doesn't seem the "Apple 
>  smooth"
>  go the extra mile stand out graphics (or something) that it should be.
>  (And I'm running it on a MacPro wi

Re: Lion - step backwards?

[Rod Lavington]

Unless you have a magic trackpad :)

Cheers

Rod
 On Jul 22, 2011 11:46 AM, "Tim Law"  wrote:
>
> Do I assume that the swiping and dragging feature is only relevant to
> laptop users?
> And that desktop users don't get any benefit from this particular part of
Lion?
>
> Tim
>
> On Friday, 22 July 2011, cm  wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I guess liking or not liking a piece of software is a personal choice
affected by many factors, but speaking for myself I think Lion is fantastic!
I have been using it for about four weeks now and the gestures have become
second nature. Also Mission Control gives a superb overview of all running
applications -- I personally hardly ever use Dashboard, so I unchecked the
System Preference "Show Dashboard as a space". I can still access Dashboard
using the F4 key on my MacBook Pro (it's a different key on an iMac).
Another setting that I have become used to, even during the Snow Leopard
era, is the three finger drag. This means that switching spaces in Mission
control has been bumped for me to a four finger gesture.
>>
>> The graphics are hyper responsive! Switching desktops is an instantaneous
operation and once can even move the screen across in slow motion. The
inertia and responsiveness of the two finger scroll is reminiscent of an
iPad. I also use Launchpad often and access it via the three finger plus
thumb pinch.
>>
>> I think that another clever aspect of Lion is that Apple has maintained
backward compatibility of keystrokes and mouse clicks. If you don't want to
use the new gestures, or if you want to phase them in gradually, you can
still get by using the old keystroke combinations.
>>
>> I like the full screen view for some apps, like Safari, but prefer to run
Mail on its own desktop so that responding to an email does not tie up the
main interface. Pages and Numbers are better in full screen mode for me.
Unless I need to work on multiple documents, full screen removed
distractions. The automatic versioning and saving is a breakthrough and I
have already benefited from versions.
>>
>> There are some rough edges that I hope will be fixed in OS X 10.7.1.
There was a lot of pressure to get Lion out the door because it was holding
up the release of new hardware, so a few things are not as polished as they
should be. The problems, however, a likely easily fixed over the coming
weeks.
>>
>> * Mail has become unstable. I find that when overloaded it will crash.
This happens to me about once every two days. Fortunately automatic saving
means that the most I have lost is two words.
>> * Safari in full screen mode does not behave properly when one reverse
pinch zooms in. The text, rather than being laid out afresh and wrapping
correctly, just extends beyond the edge of the screen.
>> * I have had some initial trouble reconnecting to my router on wake up,
but this problem seems to have disappeared by itself. I think the release
version may have corrected this as I was using the developer GM version
until yesterday.
>>
>> I have submitted reports to Apple for the first two of the above defects
-- the Mail crash report being automatically generated.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Carlo
>>
>> On 2011-07-21, at 23:18, rkor...@iinet.net.au wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi Guys
>>>
>>> I have installed it on a new 15" MBP at the office and I will use that
for testing, I have only had it up and running for about 2
>>> hours now and haven't really formed an opinion as of yet.
>>>
>>> Somethings are quite different and on first impressions I don't like
them but I want to see if it grows on me, at the moment I
>>> am trying to get our VPN working on it so far its not haha.
>>>
>>> I can imagine that things like the autosave and resume will be very
welcome here so will see how I go over the next few
>>> weeks testing the applications CS suite, Office and our legacy stuff!!
>>>
>>> Roger
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu Jul 21 23:10 , Daniel Kerr  sent:
>>>

 Hi Steven

 I must admit I do agree with you with some of this.
 Some thing stand out as being slightly better, but some of it, like you
 say,..I just can't put my finger on it. For some of it, I thought, it
didn't
 seem as "Apple polished" as it should be. Some things seemed a bit
"chunky"
 or not finished off,..or just something.
 I can't quite put my finger on it,..but it doesn't seem the "Apple
smooth"
 go the extra mile stand out graphics (or something) that it should be.
 (And I'm running it on a MacPro with 18GB RAM, 5770 1GB Video card on
an
 Apple 24" LED "current" minDisplay monitor.) So it's not like it's "old
 gear". And right beside that is the same 24" LED monitor hooked up to
my
 2011 MacBookPro running Snow Leopard. So it's "same same"),

 But yes,..something just doesn't seem as crystal clear.
 Maybe there's some "tweak settings" or just getting used to the
different
 feel of it.
 Don't get me wrong,..there's lots of cool things it has and will
do.
 But yes, I do have to admit t

Lion - step backwards?

[Tim Law]

Do I assume that the swiping and dragging feature is only relevant to
laptop users?
And that desktop users don't get any benefit from this particular part of Lion?

Tim

On Friday, 22 July 2011, cm  wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I guess liking or not liking a piece of software is a personal choice 
> affected by many factors, but speaking for myself I think Lion is fantastic! 
> I have been using it for about four weeks now and the gestures have become 
> second nature. Also Mission Control gives a superb overview of all running 
> applications -- I personally hardly ever use Dashboard, so I unchecked the 
> System Preference "Show Dashboard as a space". I can still access Dashboard 
> using the F4 key on my MacBook Pro (it's a different key on an iMac). Another 
> setting that I have become used to, even during the Snow Leopard era, is the 
> three finger drag. This means that switching spaces in Mission control has 
> been bumped for me to a four finger gesture.
>
> The graphics are hyper responsive! Switching desktops is an instantaneous 
> operation and once can even move the screen across in slow motion. The 
> inertia and responsiveness of the two finger scroll is reminiscent of an 
> iPad. I also use Launchpad often and access it via the three finger plus 
> thumb pinch.
>
> I think that another clever aspect of Lion is that Apple has maintained 
> backward compatibility of keystrokes and mouse clicks. If you don't want to 
> use the new gestures, or if you want to phase them in gradually, you can 
> still get by using the old keystroke combinations.
>
> I like the full screen view for some apps, like Safari, but prefer to run 
> Mail on its own desktop so that responding to an email does not tie up the 
> main interface. Pages and Numbers are better in full screen mode for me. 
> Unless I need to work on multiple documents, full screen removed 
> distractions. The automatic versioning and saving is a breakthrough and I 
> have already benefited from versions.
>
> There are some rough edges that I hope will be fixed in OS X 10.7.1. There 
> was a lot of pressure to get Lion out the door because it was holding up the 
> release of new hardware, so a few things are not as polished as they should 
> be. The problems, however, a likely easily fixed over the coming weeks.
>
> * Mail has become unstable. I find that when overloaded it will crash. This 
> happens to me about once every two days. Fortunately automatic saving means 
> that the most I have lost is two words.
> * Safari in full screen mode does not behave properly when one reverse pinch 
> zooms in. The text, rather than being laid out afresh and wrapping correctly, 
> just extends beyond the edge of the screen.
> * I have had some initial trouble reconnecting to my router on wake up, but 
> this problem seems to have disappeared by itself. I think the release version 
> may have corrected this as I was using the developer GM version until 
> yesterday.
>
> I have submitted reports to Apple for the first two of the above defects -- 
> the Mail crash report being automatically generated.
>
> Cheers,
> Carlo
>
> On 2011-07-21, at 23:18, rkor...@iinet.net.au wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi Guys
>>
>> I have installed it on a new 15" MBP at the office and I will use that for 
>> testing, I have only had it up and running for about 2
>> hours now and haven't really formed an opinion as of yet.
>>
>> Somethings are quite different and on first impressions I don't like them 
>> but I want to see if it grows on me, at the moment I
>> am trying to get our VPN working on it so far its not haha.
>>
>> I can imagine that things like the autosave and resume will be very welcome 
>> here so will see how I go over the next few
>> weeks testing the applications CS suite, Office and our legacy stuff!!
>>
>> Roger
>>
>>
>> On Thu Jul 21 23:10 , Daniel Kerr  sent:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi Steven
>>>
>>> I must admit I do agree with you with some of this.
>>> Some thing stand out as being slightly better, but some of it, like you
>>> say,..I just can't put my finger on it. For some of it, I thought, it didn't
>>> seem as "Apple polished" as it should be. Some things seemed a bit "chunky"
>>> or not finished off,..or just something.
>>> I can't quite put my finger on it,..but it doesn't seem the "Apple smooth"
>>> go the extra mile stand out graphics (or something) that it should be.
>>> (And I'm running it on a MacPro with 18GB RAM, 5770 1GB Video card on an
>>> Apple 24" LED "current" minDisplay monitor.) So it's not like it's "old
>>> gear". And right beside that is the same 24" LED monitor hooked up to my
>>> 2011 MacBookPro running Snow Leopard. So it's "same same"),
>>>
>>> But yes,..something just doesn't seem as crystal clear.
>>> Maybe there's some "tweak settings" or just getting used to the different
>>> feel of it.
>>> Don't get me wrong,..there's lots of cool things it has and will do.
>>> But yes, I do have to admit the same thought as you mentioned.
>>>
>>> /Start flame w

Re: Lion - step backwards?

[cm]

Hi all,

I guess liking or not liking a piece of software is a personal choice affected 
by many factors, but speaking for myself I think Lion is fantastic! I have been 
using it for about four weeks now and the gestures have become second nature. 
Also Mission Control gives a superb overview of all running applications -- I 
personally hardly ever use Dashboard, so I unchecked the System Preference 
"Show Dashboard as a space". I can still access Dashboard using the F4 key on 
my MacBook Pro (it's a different key on an iMac). Another setting that I have 
become used to, even during the Snow Leopard era, is the three finger drag. 
This means that switching spaces in Mission control has been bumped for me to a 
four finger gesture.

The graphics are hyper responsive! Switching desktops is an instantaneous 
operation and once can even move the screen across in slow motion. The inertia 
and responsiveness of the two finger scroll is reminiscent of an iPad. I also 
use Launchpad often and access it via the three finger plus thumb pinch.

I think that another clever aspect of Lion is that Apple has maintained 
backward compatibility of keystrokes and mouse clicks. If you don't want to use 
the new gestures, or if you want to phase them in gradually, you can still get 
by using the old keystroke combinations.

I like the full screen view for some apps, like Safari, but prefer to run Mail 
on its own desktop so that responding to an email does not tie up the main 
interface. Pages and Numbers are better in full screen mode for me. Unless I 
need to work on multiple documents, full screen removed distractions. The 
automatic versioning and saving is a breakthrough and I have already benefited 
from versions.

There are some rough edges that I hope will be fixed in OS X 10.7.1. There was 
a lot of pressure to get Lion out the door because it was holding up the 
release of new hardware, so a few things are not as polished as they should be. 
The problems, however, a likely easily fixed over the coming weeks.

* Mail has become unstable. I find that when overloaded it will crash. This 
happens to me about once every two days. Fortunately automatic saving means 
that the most I have lost is two words.
* Safari in full screen mode does not behave properly when one reverse pinch 
zooms in. The text, rather than being laid out afresh and wrapping correctly, 
just extends beyond the edge of the screen.
* I have had some initial trouble reconnecting to my router on wake up, but 
this problem seems to have disappeared by itself. I think the release version 
may have corrected this as I was using the developer GM version until yesterday.

I have submitted reports to Apple for the first two of the above defects -- the 
Mail crash report being automatically generated.

Cheers,
Carlo

On 2011-07-21, at 23:18, rkor...@iinet.net.au wrote:

> 
> Hi Guys
> 
> I have installed it on a new 15" MBP at the office and I will use that for 
> testing, I have only had it up and running for about 2 
> hours now and haven't really formed an opinion as of yet.
> 
> Somethings are quite different and on first impressions I don't like them but 
> I want to see if it grows on me, at the moment I 
> am trying to get our VPN working on it so far its not haha.
> 
> I can imagine that things like the autosave and resume will be very welcome 
> here so will see how I go over the next few 
> weeks testing the applications CS suite, Office and our legacy stuff!!
> 
> Roger
> 
> 
> On Thu Jul 21 23:10 , Daniel Kerr  sent:
> 
>> 
>> Hi Steven
>> 
>> I must admit I do agree with you with some of this.
>> Some thing stand out as being slightly better, but some of it, like you
>> say,..I just can't put my finger on it. For some of it, I thought, it didn't
>> seem as "Apple polished" as it should be. Some things seemed a bit "chunky"
>> or not finished off,..or just something.
>> I can't quite put my finger on it,..but it doesn't seem the "Apple smooth"
>> go the extra mile stand out graphics (or something) that it should be.
>> (And I'm running it on a MacPro with 18GB RAM, 5770 1GB Video card on an
>> Apple 24" LED "current" minDisplay monitor.) So it's not like it's "old
>> gear". And right beside that is the same 24" LED monitor hooked up to my
>> 2011 MacBookPro running Snow Leopard. So it's "same same"),
>> 
>> But yes,..something just doesn't seem as crystal clear.
>> Maybe there's some "tweak settings" or just getting used to the different
>> feel of it.
>> Don't get me wrong,..there's lots of cool things it has and will do.
>> But yes, I do have to admit the same thought as you mentioned.
>> 
>> /Start flame war here :o) lol/
>> 
>> Kind regards
>> Daniel
>> 
>> 
>> On 21/7/11 4:05 AM, "Steven Knowles" emai...@knowles.net.au> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> After a preliminary play with Lion, my first impression was that it seems to
>>> have taken a step or two backwards in terms of slick Apple interface.
>>> 
>>> I can't put my finger on it, but it ju

iTunes

[Skehan Adrian]

Good morning all,

Having installed Lion on both the iMac (27"  i7) and the MacBook Pro I have had 
to download the 9 updates for them one at a time otherwise it fails to install 
any of them at the end of the downloading phase and the download has to start 
from scratch.  I eventually got them all installed except iTunes which I 
downloaded from the support site rather than the update app.  It installed on 
the MacBook Pro OK but won't install on the iMac it comes up with an error and 
says contact the manufacturer. There is also a problem with the iPhone 4 update 
it stalls and times out on both machines.

I tried ringing support but a lengthy cue there.  has anyone else had this 
problem?

Regards,

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Re: 10.4 and 9.2.2

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On 21/07/2011, at 8:57 AM, Merv Bond wrote:

> Thanks Peter.
> Should I uninstall 10.2.8 or will 10.4 just write over the top of it? Will 
> 9.2.2 be unaffected?
> I have MSOffice 98 on it which comes in handy at odd times for viewing 
> documents, in particular Excel.
> Merv
> 

10.4 should install fine. 9.2.2 is in a completely different space, so no 
amount of messing with Mac OS X will affect it. You could even do a clean 
install of Mac OS X (without formatting the HD, of course!) without affecting 
9.2.2. In any event, I strongly recommend choosing the option of "Clean Install 
with Archive" when upgrading to 10.4.  

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[Peter Hinchliffe]

On 21/07/2011, at 9:25 AM, Edward Arrowsmith wrote:

> 
> I just updated Safari to 5.1 but LastPass caused it to crash while opening. 
> 
> The fix - if you have LastPass installed in Safari, download the app again 
> (using another browser, eg Chrome) and use the uninstaller that comes with it 
> to remove LastPass. After this Safari opened for me with no problems.
> 
> Best wishes,
> Edward
> 


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Launching Safari 5.1 with these installed was disastrous, resulting in an 
repeating series of warning notices and forced Quits. Upgrading both 
applications to their latest versions fixed everything. 

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Re: Office for Mac

[Philippe Chaperon]

Hi Andrew and all,

Just remember that MS Office 2008 does not support Visual Basic for
Applications (VBA) hence Macros. Should you want to work on a spreadsheet
with VBA/Macros you will have to go to the previous edition of MS Office
2004.

Kind regards,

Philippe C

2011/7/21 Andrew 

>
> Thanks for all the suggestions. Looks like we might go for Office 2008
> after checking compatibilty with version at work. I think this will do what
> is required (Word, PowerPoint etc).
>
> Andrew
>
>
>
> On 21/07/2011, at 12:16 PM, cm  wrote:
>
> >
> > Hi Peter and Andrew,
> >
> > I have used OpenOffice for years to get by in situations that normally
> require Microsoft Office, but I have recently switched to LibreOffice.
> >
> > http://www.libreoffice.org/download/
> >
> > This is not in anyway an ideological choice. Oracle obtained the rights
> to OpenOffice when it bought Sun Microsystems and Oracle has decided it will
> no longer be supporting OpenOffice, so many of the key developers on the
> project recently forked the open source code and moved to a project called
> LibreOffice. My reading of the situation is that from now on LibreOffice
> will be of better quality and better supported than OpenOffice.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Carlo
> >
> > On 2011-07-21, at 07:49, Peter Hinchliffe wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> On 20/07/2011, at 6:05 PM, Andrew wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Hi All
> >>> I have downloaded Microsoft Office For Mac 2011 Free Trial to use on my
> 24" iMac (2.16 GHz Intel Core Duo, OS 10.4.11).
> >>> When running the installer it states I require OS 10.5.8 or higher.
> >>> Does anyone know if I can run an earlier version of Office without an
> upgrade of the operating system?
> >>> Alternatively, how much does upgrading to 10.5 cost and is it worth it
> (and any potential complications)?
> >>> I have had a look at Apple support for 10.5 but can only find updates
> for it.
> >>>
> >>> Andrew
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> Given the age of your OS (and presumably having the need to read and/or
> create documents which are compatible with the latest file formats) you
> might consider looking at Open Office. There are both PowerPC and Intel
> versions available ( >).
> >>
> >>
> >> Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
> >> FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
> >> Perth, Western Australia
> >> Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948
> >> 
> >> Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to.
> >>
> >>
> >>
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[rkor...@iinet.net.au]

Hi Guys

I have installed it on a new 15" MBP at the office and I will use that for 
testing, I have only had it up and running for about 2 
hours now and haven't really formed an opinion as of yet.

Somethings are quite different and on first impressions I don't like them but I 
want to see if it grows on me, at the moment I 
am trying to get our VPN working on it so far its not haha.

I can imagine that things like the autosave and resume will be very welcome 
here so will see how I go over the next few 
weeks testing the applications CS suite, Office and our legacy stuff!!

Roger


On Thu Jul 21 23:10 , Daniel Kerr  sent:

>
>Hi Steven
>
>I must admit I do agree with you with some of this.
>Some thing stand out as being slightly better, but some of it, like you
>say,..I just can't put my finger on it. For some of it, I thought, it didn't
>seem as "Apple polished" as it should be. Some things seemed a bit "chunky"
>or not finished off,..or just something.
>I can't quite put my finger on it,..but it doesn't seem the "Apple smooth"
>go the extra mile stand out graphics (or something) that it should be.
>(And I'm running it on a MacPro with 18GB RAM, 5770 1GB Video card on an
>Apple 24" LED "current" minDisplay monitor.) So it's not like it's "old
>gear". And right beside that is the same 24" LED monitor hooked up to my
>2011 MacBookPro running Snow Leopard. So it's "same same"),
>
>But yes,..something just doesn't seem as crystal clear.
>Maybe there's some "tweak settings" or just getting used to the different
>feel of it.
>Don't get me wrong,..there's lots of cool things it has and will do.
>But yes, I do have to admit the same thought as you mentioned.
>
>/Start flame war here :o) lol/
>
>Kind regards
>Daniel
>
>
>On 21/7/11 4:05 AM, "Steven Knowles" emai...@knowles.net.au> wrote:
>
>> 
>> After a preliminary play with Lion, my first impression was that it seems to
>> have taken a step or two backwards in terms of slick Apple interface.
>> 
>> I can't put my finger on it, but it just seems to have lost a little of that
>> smooth rounded aqua finesse and polish that I've become used to with Snow
>> Leopard. Somehow Lion seems to be a tad clunkier, maybe just a tiny bit tacky
>> in places. No doubt I'll get used to it. Maybe my expectations were set too
>> high. I'm only talking aesthetics at this stage, I haven't had chance to play
>> with the under-the-hood changes.
>> 
>> Steven
>> 
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Re: Lion - step backwards?

[Daniel Kerr]

Hi Steven

I must admit I do agree with you with some of this.
Some thing stand out as being slightly better, but some of it, like you
say,..I just can't put my finger on it. For some of it, I thought, it didn't
seem as "Apple polished" as it should be. Some things seemed a bit "chunky"
or not finished off,..or just something.
I can't quite put my finger on it,..but it doesn't seem the "Apple smooth"
go the extra mile stand out graphics (or something) that it should be.
(And I'm running it on a MacPro with 18GB RAM, 5770 1GB Video card on an
Apple 24" LED "current" minDisplay monitor.) So it's not like it's "old
gear". And right beside that is the same 24" LED monitor hooked up to my
2011 MacBookPro running Snow Leopard. So it's "same same"),

But yes,..something just doesn't seem as crystal clear.
Maybe there's some "tweak settings" or just getting used to the different
feel of it.
Don't get me wrong,..there's lots of cool things it has and will do.
But yes, I do have to admit the same thought as you mentioned.

/Start flame war here :o) lol/

Kind regards
Daniel


On 21/7/11 4:05 AM, "Steven Knowles"  wrote:

> 
> After a preliminary play with Lion, my first impression was that it seems to
> have taken a step or two backwards in terms of slick Apple interface.
> 
> I can't put my finger on it, but it just seems to have lost a little of that
> smooth rounded aqua finesse and polish that I've become used to with Snow
> Leopard. Somehow Lion seems to be a tad clunkier, maybe just a tiny bit tacky
> in places. No doubt I'll get used to it. Maybe my expectations were set too
> high. I'm only talking aesthetics at this stage, I haven't had chance to play
> with the under-the-hood changes.
> 
> Steven
> 
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Apparently Apple considers these obsolete and no longer carries spare parts.

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Re: Lion

[Skehan Adrian]

Thanks for that,  I have downloaded and installed Lion,the Apple site appears 
to be running very very slow, I guess there is a lot of traffic at present, and 
connection turned it into a bit of a marathon but it appears to be working OK.  

I logged the MacBook Pro into my App store account and went through the 
purchasing process again and when I clicked on the purchase button it said I 
had already paid for it and allowed me to download it again.  Its still running 
very slow.

I also ran the software updater and it downloads 9 updates (over a Gb)but at 
the end of the install process it said none of the updates could be installed.  
I click on install again and it started the download process again.

Has anyone else had this problem?



Regards,

Adrian
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On 21/07/2011, at 12:00 PM, cm wrote:

> 
> Hi Adrian,
> 
> No you only need buy one copy for home use. The Lion OS X upgrade has the 
> same rules as other software bought from the Mac App Store. You can deploy it 
> on all your Macs.
> 
> Cheers,
> Carlo
> 
> On 2011-07-21, at 10:26, Skehan Adrian wrote:
> 
>> 
>> If I buy a copy for my iMac do I have to buy another copy for the MacBook 
>> Pro?
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Adrian
>> adrianske...@me.com
>> 
>> On 20/07/2011, at 11:06 PM, rkor...@iinet.net.au wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> got it the download just finished :)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Wed Jul 20 22:58 , Ronda Brown  sent:
>>> 
 
 
 During installation, OS X Lion may display the message:"Some features of 
 Mac OS X Lion are not supported for the disk 
>>> (volume name)".
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad
 On 20/07/2011, at 9:08 PM, cm  wrote:
 
 
 I like that the price is $32, just $2 more than price in US dollars.
 
 Cheers,
 Carlo
 
 
 On 2011-07-20, at 20:58, rkor...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 
 is on the store but when trying to buy it got a store error!!!
 
 On Wed Jul 20 20:45 , 'rkor...@iinet.net.au'  sent:
 
 
 
 Have a look, new MacBook Air among other things
 
 
 
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Re: OSX Lion to hit App Store tomorrow - Bootable Disk

[Daniel Kerr]

Hi Mike
Quick reply while out on road but I also read people moved lion file from user 
library - application support - app store. 
That keeps a record of purchases. 
Move that and try download again. 
Post back if no joy and I'll try find link when back. 

Kind regards
Daniel

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On 21/07/2011, at 2:29 PM, cm  wrote:

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> Hi Mike,
> 
> That should not be the case. The Mac App Store keeps a list of all your 
> purchases and will not charge you for the same application twice. For me this 
> is has been working consistently well since the App Store was opened.
> 
> Are you logging in to the Mac App Store with the same Apple ID that you used 
> to purchase Lion? If so you should be able to download the upgrade multiple 
> times and to multiple computers if necessary. When Daniel says the App 
> disappears, he means only after it has been run and the upgrade to OS X 10.7 
> Lion has successfully completed. His goal in copying the App beforehand was 
> to burn it to a DVD, not perform a simple upgrade. I personally did not find 
> that the App was deleted but some have experienced this.
> 
> If you do not find it possible to complete the upgrade after paying for the 
> Lion upgrade App, you will be able to get help either from the Apple support 
> site or the a retail outlet Genius Bar.
> 
> Cheers,
> Carlo
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> On 2011-07-21, at 14:13, Mike Armson wrote:
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>>> said it deleted the downloaded file once installed. So they had to
>>> re-download it
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>>> .G'Day
>> This happened to me and Apple want another $31.99 to download it again.
>> The irony is I sat up half the night in true 'fan bois' style to download
>> it. Apple made $7.9 million profit for the last quarter. It makes the AUD
>> 1 copies in Hong Kong seem fair.
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>> Mike Armson
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