Re: OS 10.6.8/OS Lion Question
Hi Robert, Just to add to what Ronda has said and to give you some other options. Assuming you are migrating towards Lion on your iMac, you have a number of options to run 10.6 Snow Leopard in an auxiliary role. Here is a setup that I recently put in place for someone with an iMac. A large internal partition of the hard drive runs OS X 10.7 Lion and this partition also contains all the data files, while a much smaller internal partition contains OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard. Snow Leopard can see all the data files available to Lion. To boot into Snow Leopard, one just restarts the computer while holding down the Option key and one sees a selection menu to choose either operating system. By default the computer boots into OS X 10.7 Lion. To get this setup proceed as follows. I will give just a thumbnail sketch of the steps below, but if you want to proceed and can't follow the abbreviated steps, please write back to the group. 1) Make a clone of your system to an external drive using Carbon Copy Cloner or equivalent, just to give you an exit strategy should something go wrong. 2) Use Disk Utility to make a new small partition on your internal drive, 50 - 150 GB should be ample. Use the default Mac OS Extended (journaled) format. 3) Run the Lion upgrade application to move your main system to OS X 10.7 Lion. 4) Install a new copy of Snow Leopard on the small partition and install the software you would like to run under Snow Leopard there. Now you can will boot into Lion by default but can boot into Snow Leopard by holding down the Option key. You can run Freehand and Photoshop CS2 by booting into Snow Leopard. There are a number of variations to the above. One is to put Snow Leopard on an external drive. If this is bootable (as described by Ronni below) you can boot into it by holding down the option key. Another variation is to use copy your original bootable Snow Leopard install back to the the small partition -- this, however, will likely require you to make your Snow Leopard install much smaller by deleting redundant files. Remember that while you may not be able run certain applications on both systems, all the data files of each operating system are visible to both operating systems, so there is not need to maintain two copies of your data files. One small complication is that you need to stop Spotlight from indexing both operating system application files. That is to say, if you use Spotlight to launch, say, Disk Utility (as I do), you don't want the Lion version showing up in Snow Leopard, and the Snow Leopard version showing up in Lion. This is solved by excluding the Snow Leopard Application file from within the Spotlight preferences on Lion, and excluding the Lion Application folder from within the Spotlight preferences on Snow Leopard. Cheers, Carlo On 2011-08-04, at 10:26, Ronda Brown wrote: On 04/08/2011, at 9:55 AM, Robert Miller-Eves wrote: I need to continue using Macromedia Freehand MX and Photoshop CS2 in my work as I'm familiar with them but aware that OS Lion does not support them. Is it possible to run 10.6.8 from an external Drive (and use Lion on My computer Drive (iMac 27)? If so how does one select which OS to start up with? I have a fairly reasonable clue about this issue but would appreciate some Expert advice Thanks in advance! Hi Robert, I would suggest a better way is to do what I have done. I cloned my OS X 10.6.8 system using Super Duper (you can use Carbon Copy Cloner if you prefer) onto a bootable External FW Drive. Then purchased Lion OS X 10.7 from the App Store and installed Lion on an external FW Drive. This way I can boot into Lion for testing purposes before I decide if I want it on my main work MacBook Pro. By doing this, my work MBP is not being disturbed by any ‘glitches’ that I might find using Lion. You can use a USB External; Drive if you wish, I just prefer using FW drives (of which I have many ;-) Very important: You first must format the external drive in ‘GUID Partition Table’ Format: Mac OS Extended (journaled) otherwise you will not be able to boot from the drive. (If you require details how to format an external drive, please post back I’ll include instructions. Then when I find some time to do some testing of Lion I just: Connect the FW Drive to MBP Go to System Preferences Startup Disk (Under System) Click ’Startup Disk’ (it will now show both your OS X 10.6.8 HD your OS X 10.7 HD Select the OS X 10.7 HD Click ‘Resart’ Your computer will restart into Lion. When you have finished testing Lion out, just restart back into OS X 10.6.8 Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD OS X 10.6.8 Snow Leopard OS X 10.7 Lion Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance) -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives -
Missing attachment - Apple Mail in Lion?
A query regarding Mail 5 (Lion). I've received a message with, supposedly, an attached file which I need. In the Message Viewer, the size column shows 492KB, indicating an attachment, and the Attachments column shows 2 items, indicating the attachment in question, the 2nd obviously being a sig file graphic embedded in the message. However, viewing the message itself, the 'Save' button shows only one attachment, the graphic, 14KB. There's no file at the base of the message, where you'd usually see an attachment. I've brought up the forward and redirect windows, to see if that makes my missing attachment materialise. Nope. Even forwarded the whole message to a hotmail account to see if the attachment appeared in hotmail. No to that as well. The attachment's gotta be buried in the received email somewhere, otherwise I wouldn't expect Message Viewer to indicate 492KB and two attachments. The embedded graphic is small, definitely not 492KB, and this is about the size I'd expect the vaporised attachment to be. I've quit Mail and relaunched. Rebuilt the mailbox. No joy. Any clues as to how I might weed out this elusive attachment? Another thing ... quitting Mail and relaunching no longer remembers all open Mail windows. Previously reported searching issues still an issue despite following all suggested fixing attempts. Lion's Mail is one buggy app!! Steven -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Sort of off-topic: HD DVD
I belong to the WA Bookbinders Guild. Today I received a promo from the USA for two HD DVDs (available in either NTSC or PAL) on Fine Bookbinding. MY DVD recorder-player only decodes standard digital TV signals, not HD signals. Will it be able to play an HD DVD? (I would order the PAL version.) If my DVD player won't handle it would my intel Mac do the job? OSX 10.5.8? Merv -- The whole psychology of modern disquiet is linked with the sudden confrontation with space-time. (Teilhard de Chardin, 'The Phenomenon of Man') -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Missing attachment - Apple Mail in Lion?
Hi Steven, You have to scroll down to the bottom of a threaded email on the right window to even see them. No attachments show on the top of emails any longer (by the paperclip) Or do you mean the buttons that said quicklook and save? There are hidden by default, but can be seen if you click on the blue word 'details' on the top right of the message. Once selected, this view remains for all other messages. You should still be able to quicklook attachments from the message by selecting them and pressing the spacebar. If this doesn't work for you, then maybe there is another problem. The quicklook window is now a pale colour by the way. Sent from Ronni's iPad On 04/08/2011, at 8:14 PM, Steven Knowles emai...@knowles.net.au wrote: A query regarding Mail 5 (Lion). I've received a message with, supposedly, an attached file which I need. In the Message Viewer, the size column shows 492KB, indicating an attachment, and the Attachments column shows 2 items, indicating the attachment in question, the 2nd obviously being a sig file graphic embedded in the message. However, viewing the message itself, the 'Save' button shows only one attachment, the graphic, 14KB. There's no file at the base of the message, where you'd usually see an attachment. I've brought up the forward and redirect windows, to see if that makes my missing attachment materialise. Nope. Even forwarded the whole message to a hotmail account to see if the attachment appeared in hotmail. No to that as well. The attachment's gotta be buried in the received email somewhere, otherwise I wouldn't expect Message Viewer to indicate 492KB and two attachments. The embedded graphic is small, definitely not 492KB, and this is about the size I'd expect the vaporised attachment to be. I've quit Mail and relaunched. Rebuilt the mailbox. No joy. Any clues as to how I might weed out this elusive attachment? Another thing ... quitting Mail and relaunching no longer remembers all open Mail windows. Previously reported searching issues still an issue despite following all suggested fixing attempts. Lion's Mail is one buggy app!! Steven -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Missing attachment - Apple Mail in Lion?
Hi Ronni Yes, the Save and Quick Look buttons are on display. This area is which indicates a single small 14KB attachment, being the graphic, and conflicting with the 492KB message size in the Message Viewer. Scrolling down either when still in the Message Viewer (preview pane), or opening the message and scrolling down, makes no difference. No attachment visible. Other messages do show the attachments. Quick Look displays the small attachment (the graphic in the sender's sig file), however no left or right arrows in the Quick Look window to move to next attachment. It's as if the larger attachment's not there, but the size column displayed in the Message Viewer tells a different story. I've found the attachment though!! By doing so, seems something even more weird happening. This is what I did ... Opened the message. View Message Raw Source Knowing that the missing attachment was likely to be a pdf file, Command+F and searched pdf This identified a file name within this raw source text likely to be the name of the attachment (in this case img-803140111-0001.pdf) Via spotlight searched this file name, and up came a match, being the missing attachment. Here's the weird part ... looking at where this file had been parked, it seems to be parked within a hierarchy of files and associated with a completely different mail account, in fact an old one which is no longer active, and probably not active for a couple of years. This is where the attached file was nested Users my home folder Library (greyed, presumably an invisible folder) Mail V2 POP-old mail account user name@old dom...@mail.old domain INBOX.mbox great long code resembling a MAC address Data 1 2 6 Attachments 621945 2 img-803140111-0001.pdf Perhaps with such a convoluted nest of folders it's no wonder attachments are losing their way. But seriously, does that give anybody a clue as to what's going on? What worries me mostly is that old mail account came up just a couple of days ago for some reason, something associated with it for no good reason, and I just can't remember what it was now. Do others have this same folder hierarchy? If I navigate to the V2 folder (mentioned in hierarchy above), a whole bunch of folders are listed, each clearly associated with a separate mail account. Does anybody know whether this V2 folder should contain only active mailboxes? If I look inside the bowels of the folder associated with the inactive account in question (where my missing attachment ended up), worryingly it's got plenty of recent action happening, as in files modified today, yesterday, etc. Surely this shouldn't be happening inside the folder of a no longer used mail account?? I can't just delete the old account folder because it probably contains lots of historical messages I'd like to retain. Looking messy and a bit dangerous!! Cheers, Steven On 04/08/2011, at 11:04 PM, Ronda Brown wrote: Hi Steven, You have to scroll down to the bottom of a threaded email on the right window to even see them. No attachments show on the top of emails any longer (by the paperclip) Or do you mean the buttons that said quicklook and save? There are hidden by default, but can be seen if you click on the blue word 'details' on the top right of the message. Once selected, this view remains for all other messages. You should still be able to quicklook attachments from the message by selecting them and pressing the spacebar. If this doesn't work for you, then maybe there is another problem. The quicklook window is now a pale colour by the way. Sent from Ronni's iPad On 04/08/2011, at 8:14 PM, Steven Knowles emai...@knowles.net.au wrote: A query regarding Mail 5 (Lion). I've received a message with, supposedly, an attached file which I need. In the Message Viewer, the size column shows 492KB, indicating an attachment, and the Attachments column shows 2 items, indicating the attachment in question, the 2nd obviously being a sig file graphic embedded in the message. However, viewing the message itself, the 'Save' button shows only one attachment, the graphic, 14KB. There's no file at the base of the message, where you'd usually see an attachment. I've brought up the forward and redirect windows, to see if that makes my missing attachment materialise. Nope. Even forwarded the whole message to a hotmail account to see if the attachment appeared in hotmail. No to that as well. The attachment's gotta be buried in the received email somewhere, otherwise I wouldn't expect Message Viewer to indicate 492KB and two attachments. The embedded graphic is small, definitely not 492KB, and this is about the size I'd expect the vaporised attachment to be. I've quit Mail and relaunched. Rebuilt the mailbox. No joy. Any clues as to how I might weed out this elusive attachment? Another thing ... quitting Mail and relaunching no longer remembers all
MacUpdate Promo : Proview PDF Editor
Hi All I know there were some queries a while back about working with PDF's etc. And Preview can do a lot of features (for free) with PDF's but just thought I would post this link anyway, as it may have some extra features people are after. It's a promo that MacUpdate have on for a few hours. (normally $40.70, now $18.49). Expires in about 12hours from this post. (11pm) The info is here:- http://www.mupromo.com/deal/1596/7024/proview-pdf-editor May be useful, may not. But thought it worth mentioning. (And that's just a standard link, no referrals or anything are made from it, just for full disclosure) ;O) Kind regards Daniel --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel @ macwizardry . com . au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Macintosh** -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Missing attachment - Apple Mail in Lion?
Ah, I remember now what the issue with that old inactive mail account. One of my draft messages disappeared, one which I access on an ongoing basis to store and add notes on a particular subject. After searching my machine with Spotlight, found it in some obscure folder ... related to that same old inactive mail account. Steven On 05/08/2011, at 1:05 AM, Steven Knowles wrote: Hi Ronni Yes, the Save and Quick Look buttons are on display. This area is which indicates a single small 14KB attachment, being the graphic, and conflicting with the 492KB message size in the Message Viewer. Scrolling down either when still in the Message Viewer (preview pane), or opening the message and scrolling down, makes no difference. No attachment visible. Other messages do show the attachments. Quick Look displays the small attachment (the graphic in the sender's sig file), however no left or right arrows in the Quick Look window to move to next attachment. It's as if the larger attachment's not there, but the size column displayed in the Message Viewer tells a different story. I've found the attachment though!! By doing so, seems something even more weird happening. This is what I did ... Opened the message. View Message Raw Source Knowing that the missing attachment was likely to be a pdf file, Command+F and searched pdf This identified a file name within this raw source text likely to be the name of the attachment (in this case img-803140111-0001.pdf) Via spotlight searched this file name, and up came a match, being the missing attachment. Here's the weird part ... looking at where this file had been parked, it seems to be parked within a hierarchy of files and associated with a completely different mail account, in fact an old one which is no longer active, and probably not active for a couple of years. This is where the attached file was nested Users my home folder Library (greyed, presumably an invisible folder) Mail V2 POP-old mail account user name@old dom...@mail.old domain INBOX.mbox great long code resembling a MAC address Data 1 2 6 Attachments 621945 2 img-803140111-0001.pdf Perhaps with such a convoluted nest of folders it's no wonder attachments are losing their way. But seriously, does that give anybody a clue as to what's going on? What worries me mostly is that old mail account came up just a couple of days ago for some reason, something associated with it for no good reason, and I just can't remember what it was now. Do others have this same folder hierarchy? If I navigate to the V2 folder (mentioned in hierarchy above), a whole bunch of folders are listed, each clearly associated with a separate mail account. Does anybody know whether this V2 folder should contain only active mailboxes? If I look inside the bowels of the folder associated with the inactive account in question (where my missing attachment ended up), worryingly it's got plenty of recent action happening, as in files modified today, yesterday, etc. Surely this shouldn't be happening inside the folder of a no longer used mail account?? I can't just delete the old account folder because it probably contains lots of historical messages I'd like to retain. Looking messy and a bit dangerous!! Cheers, Steven On 04/08/2011, at 11:04 PM, Ronda Brown wrote: Hi Steven, You have to scroll down to the bottom of a threaded email on the right window to even see them. No attachments show on the top of emails any longer (by the paperclip) Or do you mean the buttons that said quicklook and save? There are hidden by default, but can be seen if you click on the blue word 'details' on the top right of the message. Once selected, this view remains for all other messages. You should still be able to quicklook attachments from the message by selecting them and pressing the spacebar. If this doesn't work for you, then maybe there is another problem. The quicklook window is now a pale colour by the way. Sent from Ronni's iPad On 04/08/2011, at 8:14 PM, Steven Knowles emai...@knowles.net.au wrote: A query regarding Mail 5 (Lion). I've received a message with, supposedly, an attached file which I need. In the Message Viewer, the size column shows 492KB, indicating an attachment, and the Attachments column shows 2 items, indicating the attachment in question, the 2nd obviously being a sig file graphic embedded in the message. However, viewing the message itself, the 'Save' button shows only one attachment, the graphic, 14KB. There's no file at the base of the message, where you'd usually see an attachment. I've brought up the forward and redirect windows, to see if that makes my missing attachment materialise. Nope. Even forwarded the whole message to a hotmail account to see if the attachment appeared in hotmail. No to that as well. The attachment's gotta be
Re: Sort of off-topic: HD DVD
Hi, Merv HD DVD was one of the formats designed to replace normal DVDs eventually lost to Blu-ray. and would most likely require an HD DVD player in less the disc specifies that it is a backwards compatible disc, only released uncertain HD DVDs. You can find out more here on Wikipediahttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HD_DVD Below is a quote from the relevant part from Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HD_DVD#Compatibility Compatibility http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HD_DVD#Compatibility Backward compatibility is available with all HD DVD players, allowing users to have a single player to play all types of HD DVD, DVD and CD. There is also a hybrid HD DVD format which contains both DVD and HD DVD versions of the same movie on a single disc, providing a smooth transition for the studios in terms of publishing movies, and allowing consumers with only DVD players to still use the discs. DVD replication companies can continue using their current production equipment with only minor alterations when changing over to the format of HD DVD replication. Due to the structure of the single-lens optical head, both red and blue laser diodes can be used in smaller, more compact HD DVD players. -- Regards Kyle - Kyle Kreusch: This E-Mail Was Dictated Using One OF Nuance Communications, Dictate Products - *User Next*, *Apple and Macintosh User Group*: Websitehttp://usernext.org/| Facebook http://www.facebook.com/UserNext | Twitterhttp://twitter.com/UserNext - -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Sort of off-topic: HD DVD
Thanks for this response Kylie. I'll have to get in touch with the USA Bookbinders and put the backward compatible notion to them. Regards Merv On Fri5Aug2011 Fri5Aug12:57 AM, Kyle Kreusch wrote: Hi, Merv HD DVD was one of the formats designed to replace normal DVDs eventually lost to Blu-ray. and would most likely require an HD DVD player in less the disc specifies that it is a backwards compatible disc, only released uncertain HD DVDs. You can find out more here on Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HD_DVD Below is a quote from the relevant part from Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HD_DVD#Compatibility Compatibility http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HD_DVD#Compatibility Backward compatibility is available with all HD DVD players, allowing users to have a single player to play all types of HD DVD, DVD and CD. There is also a hybrid HD DVD format which contains both DVD and HD DVD versions of the same movie on a single disc, providing a smooth transition for the studios in terms of publishing movies, and allowing consumers with only DVD players to still use the discs. DVD replication companies can continue using their current production equipment with only minor alterations when changing over to the format of HD DVD replication. Due to the structure of the single-lens optical head, both red and blue laser diodes can be used in smaller, more compact HD DVD players. -- Regards Kyle - Kyle Kreusch: This E-Mail Was Dictated Using One OF Nuance Communications, Dictate Products - *User Next*, /Apple and Macintosh User Group/: Website http://usernext.org/ | Facebook http://www.facebook.com/UserNext | Twitter http://twitter.com/UserNext - -- The whole psychology of modern disquiet is linked with the sudden confrontation with space-time. (Teilhard de Chardin, 'The Phenomenon of Man') -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
