Re: Posting to list not coming back as email

2011-08-07 Thread Tim Law
Thanks for the thought Glenn,

I have checked the Gmail settings as you suggest and not found anything that 
needed to be changed. All Mail was already showing. 

Remember that I can receive ordinary mail that I sent to myself, just not those 
that go via the WAMUG listserve when sent from my Mail app - like this email. I 
will try to send this email via my ISP, Bigpond, and see how that goes.  Their 
mail servers seem less reliable than Gmail, so I set Gmail mail server as 
default. 

I'm hoping all this will be resolved when I move to Hosting Services WA at some 
in the future before MobileMe shuts down. They host my CNAME record, Gmail 
accounts host my MX record. It was all very easy and 'free', so sad to see it 
need to be changed. But that's a whole other issue..  :-)

Ta
Tim


On 07/08/2011, at 12:53 PM, Glenn Nicholas wrote:

 Gmail may be automatically archiving emails that are sent by yourself.
 Use the Gear icon, Mail Settings, Labels and under System Labels make sure 
 you can see the All mail view.
 If you check in that view you'll probably see emails that originate from you.
  
 Glenn Nicholas
 OM4 ::
 
 
 On 7 August 2011 12:26, Tim Law t...@peoplehelp.com.au wrote:
 I am sending this via Gmail web mail, and will see if it is any different. 
 
 Thanks 
 
 Tim
 
 
 Sorry for going on about this
 What I am finding is that if I send a message to the WAMUG list using my 
 webmail account, then it is coming into my Mail account as I would expect. 
 
 If I send a message to the WAMUG list using my Mail app, routed through Gmail 
 who host my MX records, then the email does not come into mail account, 
 either via webmail or into Mail app, but DOES appear in the WAMUG archives.
 
 Given I will move my domain hosting at some point before MobileMe shuts down, 
 I have decided that if I want to contribute to WAMUG, I will do so via 
 webmail, which I have some assurance will act as I expect.
 
 Thanks
 Tim
 
 
 
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Re: Posting to list not coming back as email

2011-08-07 Thread Tim Law
Aha,

Getting somewhere. 

So - when I SEND to the WAMUG list using Mail app and the Bigpond mail servers, 
then my own message comes back to me via the WAMUG list as I would expect. 
But when I SEND the same using my default Gmail mail server, I don't get it 
back. 

I don't understand why this is the case, but at least I have refined down where 
the problem may lie and I have a work around - simply select Bigpond server 
when sending a message to the list. 

Thanks

Tim


On 07/08/2011, at 2:57 PM, Tim Law wrote:

 Thanks for the thought Glenn,
 
 I have checked the Gmail settings as you suggest and not found anything that 
 needed to be changed. All Mail was already showing. 
 
 Remember that I can receive ordinary mail that I sent to myself, just not 
 those that go via the WAMUG listserve when sent from my Mail app - like this 
 email. I will try to send this email via my ISP, Bigpond, and see how that 
 goes.  Their mail servers seem less reliable than Gmail, so I set Gmail mail 
 server as default. 
 
 I'm hoping all this will be resolved when I move to Hosting Services WA at 
 some in the future before MobileMe shuts down. They host my CNAME record, 
 Gmail accounts host my MX record. It was all very easy and 'free', so sad to 
 see it need to be changed. But that's a whole other issue..  :-)
 
 Ta
 Tim
 
 
 On 07/08/2011, at 12:53 PM, Glenn Nicholas wrote:
 
 Gmail may be automatically archiving emails that are sent by yourself.
 Use the Gear icon, Mail Settings, Labels and under System Labels make sure 
 you can see the All mail view.
 If you check in that view you'll probably see emails that originate from you.
  
 Glenn Nicholas
 OM4 ::
 
 
 On 7 August 2011 12:26, Tim Law t...@peoplehelp.com.au wrote:
 I am sending this via Gmail web mail, and will see if it is any different. 
 
 Thanks 
 
 Tim
 
 
 Sorry for going on about this
 What I am finding is that if I send a message to the WAMUG list using my 
 webmail account, then it is coming into my Mail account as I would expect. 
 
 If I send a message to the WAMUG list using my Mail app, routed through 
 Gmail who host my MX records, then the email does not come into mail 
 account, either via webmail or into Mail app, but DOES appear in the WAMUG 
 archives.
 
 Given I will move my domain hosting at some point before MobileMe shuts 
 down, I have decided that if I want to contribute to WAMUG, I will do so via 
 webmail, which I have some assurance will act as I expect.
 
 Thanks
 Tim
 
 
 
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Re: Wireless modem recommendation

2011-08-07 Thread Derek Perry
Hi Stuart,
NO!!
Derek
On 07/08/2011, at 12:56 PM, Stuart Evans wrote:

 Hi Derek,
 
 But is it Minty?   :-)
 
 Stuart
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 06/08/2011, at 14:54, Derek Perry dperry...@yahoo.com.au wrote:
 
 Hi Mike,
 I have just installed (today Sat 6th)  Bob2 with 3 handsets, so far 
 everything is great, internet  phone, will let you know how it goes.
 Derek
 On 03/08/2011, at 1:19 PM, Mike Armson wrote:
 
 G'Day
 Belkin no longer provide technical support for iiNet modems. As Bob 1 did 
 not work at this location I went back to the iiNet Ozmail Belkin 2004 modem 
 which has not had any firmware updates. Has anyone got any recommendations 
 for a wireless modem that will work with iiNet naked DSL?
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Re: Posting to list not coming back as email

2011-08-07 Thread Kyle Kreusch
Hi Tim

Okay I will start with the mailing list software.

Some mailing list software allows you to choose if you receive your original
e-mail back from the list, WAMUG List does not have this option this option
is set by the list administrators and I have always presumed it was switched
off as I never receive my original e-mail back from the list. but it sounds
like this feature is switched on but Gmail and Google Apps look like they
are handling this option differently.

What happens for me please keep in mind I do not use a mail client and only
use the Gmail web interface.

When I start a new message on the Mailing list say my computer is about to
explode please help which I addressed to the usual address when I send this
e-mail it only shows up in the Sent Mail option in Gmail. the e-mail
returns to the inbox when someone replies to the message on list.

When I reply to an e-mail on list say Posting to list not coming back as
email I send my reply as usual to the normal address but as far as I can
see I don't receive a copy back from the list but Gmail keeps my reply
in-line in its conversation view it also appears in the sent mail section.

I hope this helps you a little bit. and here's my question do you have your
Google apps e-mail address set up using pop or IMAP? in Apple Mail

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Re: Posting to list not coming back as email

2011-08-07 Thread Tim Law
Kyle - wonderful - so I am not alone...

Yay.

Yes, this is what happens to me!!!

I use POP to access my Gmail accounts in Apple Mail

So it seems all is normal and I've nothing to fuss over. If I send a new post 
to WAMUG, then I'll assume it has gone out to the list. And if I want to see my 
own email come back to me, then I will use Bigpond to send the message. 

Thanks for clarifying it all Kyle. It's so nice not feeling alone  :-0

Tim





On 07/08/2011, at 9:19 PM, Kyle Kreusch wrote:

 Hi Tim
 
 Okay I will start with the mailing list software.
 
 Some mailing list software allows you to choose if you receive your original 
 e-mail back from the list, WAMUG List does not have this option this option 
 is set by the list administrators and I have always presumed it was switched 
 off as I never receive my original e-mail back from the list. but it sounds 
 like this feature is switched on but Gmail and Google Apps look like they are 
 handling this option differently.
 
 What happens for me please keep in mind I do not use a mail client and only 
 use the Gmail web interface.
 
 When I start a new message on the Mailing list say my computer is about to 
 explode please help which I addressed to the usual address when I send this 
 e-mail it only shows up in the Sent Mail option in Gmail. the e-mail 
 returns to the inbox when someone replies to the message on list.
 
 When I reply to an e-mail on list say Posting to list not coming back as 
 email I send my reply as usual to the normal address but as far as I can see 
 I don't receive a copy back from the list but Gmail keeps my reply in-line in 
 its conversation view it also appears in the sent mail section.
 
 I hope this helps you a little bit. and here's my question do you have your 
 Google apps e-mail address set up using pop or IMAP? in Apple Mail
 
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eCensus

2011-08-07 Thread Severin Crisp
Has anyone got any feedback on compatibility of eCensus with Safari?  A 
preliminary inspection makes no mention of Mac or Safari and i am wondering 
whether I will need to use Windows/Explorer'  
Severin Crisp
I have my ECN and CFN codes

   Assoc Professor R Severin Crisp, FIP, CPhys, FAIP
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Re: Posting to list not coming back as email

2011-08-07 Thread Daniel Kerr

I don't use gmail at all (do have account, just don't use it), but I find
when I send an email (be it a new message which I've just started or a reply
to another), I always get the message coming to me.
So I don't think it's a matter that the feature is turned off (though I
could be wrong), but perhaps some other handling of it.

I send my message to wamug@wamug from my registered address
(wamug@macwizardry) and the message will be in my sent box, and within a few
minutes the message hits the list and I see my original message. I don't
have to wait til someone replies to it to see it.

Not sure that helps, but was just clarifying it from another perspective ;o)

Kind regards
DAniel


On 7/8/11 10:40 PM, Tim Law t...@peoplehelp.com.au wrote:

 Kyle - wonderful - so I am not alone...
 
 Yay.
 
 Yes, this is what happens to me!!!
 
 I use POP to access my Gmail accounts in Apple Mail
 
 So it seems all is normal and I've nothing to fuss over. If I send a new post
 to WAMUG, then I'll assume it has gone out to the list. And if I want to see
 my own email come back to me, then I will use Bigpond to send the message.
 
 Thanks for clarifying it all Kyle. It's so nice not feeling alone  :-0
 
 Tim
 
 
 
 
 
 On 07/08/2011, at 9:19 PM, Kyle Kreusch wrote:
 
 Hi Tim
 
 Okay I will start with the mailing list software.
 
 Some mailing list software allows you to choose if you receive your original
 e-mail back from the list, WAMUG List does not have this option this option
 is set by the list administrators and I have always presumed it was switched
 off as I never receive my original e-mail back from the list. but it sounds
 like this feature is switched on but Gmail and Google Apps look like they are
 handling this option differently.
 
 What happens for me please keep in mind I do not use a mail client and only
 use the Gmail web interface.
 
 When I start a new message on the Mailing list say my computer is about to
 explode please help which I addressed to the usual address when I send this
 e-mail it only shows up in the Sent Mail option in Gmail. the e-mail
 returns to the inbox when someone replies to the message on list.
 
 When I reply to an e-mail on list say Posting to list not coming back as
 email I send my reply as usual to the normal address but as far as I can see
 I don't receive a copy back from the list but Gmail keeps my reply in-line in
 its conversation view it also appears in the sent mail section.
 
 I hope this helps you a little bit. and here's my question do you have your
 Google apps e-mail address set up using pop or IMAP? in Apple Mail
 
 --
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Re: eCensus

2011-08-07 Thread Jane Griffiths
The eCensus worked just fine for me on latest Safari, no problems at all. 



On 07/08/2011, at 10:49 PM, Severin Crisp sevcr...@westnet.com.au wrote:

 Has anyone got any feedback on compatibility of eCensus with Safari?  A 
 preliminary inspection makes no mention of Mac or Safari and i am wondering 
 whether I will need to use Windows/Explorer'  
 Severin Crisp
 I have my ECN and CFN codes
 
Assoc Professor R Severin Crisp, FIP, CPhys, FAIP
15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia.
 Phone  (08) 9842 1950   (Int'l +61 8 9842 1950)
 email  mailto:sevcr...@westnet.com.au  
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Posting to list not coming back as email

2011-08-07 Thread Kyle Kreusch
Hi Tim


 I use POP to access my Gmail accounts in Apple Mail


That's what I fought you might be using if you can consider switching to
IMAP when someone replies to one of your original messages sent to the
list that message would gets move to the inbox in Apple Mail most likely.

I know IMAP is not an option for everyone if you have low bandwidth
available, this could also be solved using a rule in Apple Mail or
preferably using a filter on the Gmail servers Let me have a look to see if
I can make a filter to help you out.

Personally this has never bothered me, if it goes to the sent items the
e-mail has been sent and if there's any problems normally the mail server
will send you an error e-mail back.

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Re: eCensus

2011-08-07 Thread cm
Hi Severin,

There is no problem at all with Safari. I have submitted an eCensus and 
received confirmation for two households using Mac OS X and Safari.

Incidentally, if you know who will be in your house on Tuesday night, you can 
submit your eCensus form online now. You will get a confirmation number to 
write down on your eCensus pass code sheet.

Cheers,
Carlo


On 2011-08-07, at 22:49, Severin Crisp wrote:

 Has anyone got any feedback on compatibility of eCensus with Safari?  A 
 preliminary inspection makes no mention of Mac or Safari and i am wondering 
 whether I will need to use Windows/Explorer'  
 Severin Crisp
 I have my ECN and CFN codes
 
Assoc Professor R Severin Crisp, FIP, CPhys, FAIP
15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia.
 Phone  (08) 9842 1950   (Int'l +61 8 9842 1950)
 email  mailto:sevcr...@westnet.com.au  
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Posting to list not coming back as email

2011-08-07 Thread Tim Law
Hello Kyle,

What I have been expecting is what Daniel describes.

What I have been getting is what you and I experience. 

Now I know I am not alone, and that the list IS getting any posting I make, I'm 
settled with this outcome. I tried IMAP before and for some reason was pleased 
when I moved to POP, which works fine for me now. 

What it does mean of course is actually something much worse, that if no one 
has responded to a posting then it has been too lame to bother with.  :-(   
  
Or perhaps I should assume it was just so enlightening that the OP was stunned 
by clarity and helpfulness.  Yes, I like that solution better. 

Thanks again for your explanations and clarification.

Regards

Tim



On 07/08/2011, at 10:54 PM, Kyle Kreusch wrote:

 Hi Tim
  
 I use POP to access my Gmail accounts in Apple Mail
 
 That's what I fought you might be using if you can consider switching to IMAP 
 when someone replies to one of your original messages sent to the list that 
 message would gets move to the inbox in Apple Mail most likely.
 
 I know IMAP is not an option for everyone if you have low bandwidth 
 available, this could also be solved using a rule in Apple Mail or preferably 
 using a filter on the Gmail servers Let me have a look to see if I can make a 
 filter to help you out.
 
 Personally this has never bothered me, if it goes to the sent items the 
 e-mail has been sent and if there's any problems normally the mail server 
 will send you an error e-mail back.
 
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Re: eCensus

2011-08-07 Thread John Thompson
The eCensus paper states Safari as one of the supported browsers.  No mention 
is made of OS's.

Rgds
John T
On 07/08/2011, at 10:49 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:

 Has anyone got any feedback on compatibility of eCensus with Safari?  A 
 preliminary inspection makes no mention of Mac or Safari and i am wondering 
 whether I will need to use Windows/Explorer'  
 Severin Crisp
 I have my ECN and CFN codes
 
Assoc Professor R Severin Crisp, FIP, CPhys, FAIP
15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia.
 Phone  (08) 9842 1950   (Int'l +61 8 9842 1950)
 email  mailto:sevcr...@westnet.com.au  
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: eCensus

2011-08-07 Thread Eugene
I used Firefox on my Mac with no problems last night.
   Regards,  Eugene   

On 08/08/2011, at 8:16 AM, John Thompson wrote:The eCensus paper states Safari as one of the supported browsers. No mention is made of OS's.RgdsJohn TOn 07/08/2011, at 10:49 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:Has anyone got any feedback on compatibility of eCensus with Safari? A preliminary inspection makes no mention of Mac or Safari and i am wondering whether I will need to use Windows/Explorer' Severin CrispI have my ECN and CFN codes
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Re: eCensus

2011-08-07 Thread John Thompson
Just completed mine with Safari, no problems.
John T
On 08/08/2011, at 8:30 AM, Eugene wrote:

 I used Firefox on my Mac with no problems last night.
 
   Regards,
   Eugene
   (null) 4.tiff
 
 On 08/08/2011, at 8:16 AM, John Thompson wrote:
 
 The eCensus paper states Safari as one of the supported browsers.  No 
 mention is made of OS's.
 
 Rgds
 John T
 On 07/08/2011, at 10:49 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:
 
 Has anyone got any feedback on compatibility of eCensus with Safari?  A 
 preliminary inspection makes no mention of Mac or Safari and i am wondering 
 whether I will need to use Windows/Explorer'  
 Severin Crisp
 I have my ECN and CFN codes
 
Assoc Professor R Severin Crisp, FIP, CPhys, FAIP
15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia.
 Phone  (08) 9842 1950   (Int'l +61 8 9842 1950)
 email  mailto:sevcr...@westnet.com.au  
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: eCensus

2011-08-07 Thread Ronda Brown

On 07/08/2011, at 10:49 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:

 Has anyone got any feedback on compatibility of eCensus with Safari?  A 
 preliminary inspection makes no mention of Mac or Safari and i am wondering 
 whether I will need to use Windows/Explorer'  
 Severin Crisp
 I have my ECN and CFN codes

Hi Severin,

Works perfectly  in Safari 5.1 … very quick and easy. Much quicker and easier 
than the physical paperwork ;-)

Cheers,
Ronni

17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt
2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD

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Update crash

2011-08-07 Thread Skehan Adrian

My daughter-in law ran a Snow Leopard update via the apple updater on her new 
27 iMac last night and now it won't start, says it can't find a valid start 
disk. 
Can someone please suggest a starting point to try and resolve this please.

Unfortunately I don't know what the update was, she just clicked on the install 
option.

Regards

Adrian


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Re: Posting to list not coming back as email

2011-08-07 Thread Ronda Brown
Hi Tim,

I at one time was subscribed to WAMUG Mailing list using a gmail IMAP account.
And what Daniel has explained below is what I experienced.

My sent message to WAMUG Mailing showed in my Sent Box immediately it was sent.
Then a few seconds later my message appeared in my WAMUG Mailbox.

So I would suggest you have setup your Gmail account differently for this not 
to be happening.

Like Daniel, I don’t use my gmail account … I have one but don’t use it ;-)

You mention you have your gmail account setup as a POP Account not IMAP.
If that is the case, I would suggest you have these settings:
Incoming Mail Server: pop.gmail.com
Outgoing Mail Server: Your Internet Provider (which you have mentioned is 
‘Bigpond'
Enter the SMTP server for your Internet provider, (which from what you have 
mentioned is mail.bigpond.net) and tick “Use only this server”.
Do NOT tick “Use Authentication”.

Cheers,
Ronni

On 07/08/2011, at 10:53 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:

 
 I don't use gmail at all (do have account, just don't use it), but I find
 when I send an email (be it a new message which I've just started or a reply
 to another), I always get the message coming to me.
 So I don't think it's a matter that the feature is turned off (though I
 could be wrong), but perhaps some other handling of it.
 
 I send my message to wamug@wamug from my registered address
 (wamug@macwizardry) and the message will be in my sent box, and within a few
 minutes the message hits the list and I see my original message. I don't
 have to wait til someone replies to it to see it.
 
 Not sure that helps, but was just clarifying it from another perspective ;o)
 
 Kind regards
 DAniel
 
 
 On 7/8/11 10:40 PM, Tim Law t...@peoplehelp.com.au wrote:
 
 Kyle - wonderful - so I am not alone...
 
 Yay.
 
 Yes, this is what happens to me!!!
 
 I use POP to access my Gmail accounts in Apple Mail
 
 So it seems all is normal and I've nothing to fuss over. If I send a new post
 to WAMUG, then I'll assume it has gone out to the list. And if I want to see
 my own email come back to me, then I will use Bigpond to send the message.
 
 Thanks for clarifying it all Kyle. It's so nice not feeling alone  :-0
 
 Tim
 
 
 
 
 
 On 07/08/2011, at 9:19 PM, Kyle Kreusch wrote:
 
 Hi Tim
 
 Okay I will start with the mailing list software.
 
 Some mailing list software allows you to choose if you receive your original
 e-mail back from the list, WAMUG List does not have this option this option
 is set by the list administrators and I have always presumed it was switched
 off as I never receive my original e-mail back from the list. but it sounds
 like this feature is switched on but Gmail and Google Apps look like they 
 are
 handling this option differently.
 
 What happens for me please keep in mind I do not use a mail client and only
 use the Gmail web interface.
 
 When I start a new message on the Mailing list say my computer is about to
 explode please help which I addressed to the usual address when I send this
 e-mail it only shows up in the Sent Mail option in Gmail. the e-mail
 returns to the inbox when someone replies to the message on list.
 
 When I reply to an e-mail on list say Posting to list not coming back as
 email I send my reply as usual to the normal address but as far as I can 
 see
 I don't receive a copy back from the list but Gmail keeps my reply in-line 
 in
 its conversation view it also appears in the sent mail section.
 
 I hope this helps you a little bit. and here's my question do you have your
 Google apps e-mail address set up using pop or IMAP? in Apple Mail
 
 --
 Regards Kyle
 -
 
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 Dictate Products
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Re: Posting to list not coming back as email

2011-08-07 Thread Ronda Brown
Correction, should be mail.bigpond.com  ...
Sorry my bad  ;-(

Ronni

Hi Tim,

I at one time was subscribed to WAMUG Mailing list using a gmail IMAP account.
And what Daniel has explained below is what I experienced.

My sent message to WAMUG Mailing showed in my Sent Box immediately it was sent.
Then a few seconds later my message appeared in my WAMUG Mailbox.

So I would suggest you have setup your Gmail account differently for this not 
to be happening.

Like Daniel, I don’t use my gmail account … I have one but don’t use it ;-)

You mention you have your gmail account setup as a POP Account not IMAP.
If that is the case, I would suggest you have these settings:
Incoming Mail Server: pop.gmail.com
Outgoing Mail Server: Your Internet Provider (which you have mentioned is 
‘Bigpond'
Enter the SMTP server for your Internet provider, (which from what you have 
mentioned is mail.bigpond.net) and tick “Use only this server”.
Do NOT tick “Use Authentication”.

Cheers,
Ronni

On 07/08/2011, at 10:53 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:

 
 I don't use gmail at all (do have account, just don't use it), but I find
 when I send an email (be it a new message which I've just started or a reply
 to another), I always get the message coming to me.
 So I don't think it's a matter that the feature is turned off (though I
 could be wrong), but perhaps some other handling of it.
 
 I send my message to wamug@wamug from my registered address
 (wamug@macwizardry) and the message will be in my sent box, and within a few
 minutes the message hits the list and I see my original message. I don't
 have to wait til someone replies to it to see it.
 
 Not sure that helps, but was just clarifying it from another perspective ;o)
 
 Kind regards
 DAniel
 
 
 On 7/8/11 10:40 PM, Tim Law t...@peoplehelp.com.au wrote:
 
 Kyle - wonderful - so I am not alone...
 
 Yay.
 
 Yes, this is what happens to me!!!
 
 I use POP to access my Gmail accounts in Apple Mail
 
 So it seems all is normal and I've nothing to fuss over. If I send a new post
 to WAMUG, then I'll assume it has gone out to the list. And if I want to see
 my own email come back to me, then I will use Bigpond to send the message.
 
 Thanks for clarifying it all Kyle. It's so nice not feeling alone  :-0
 
 Tim
 
 
 
 
 
 On 07/08/2011, at 9:19 PM, Kyle Kreusch wrote:
 
 Hi Tim
 
 Okay I will start with the mailing list software.
 
 Some mailing list software allows you to choose if you receive your original
 e-mail back from the list, WAMUG List does not have this option this option
 is set by the list administrators and I have always presumed it was switched
 off as I never receive my original e-mail back from the list. but it sounds
 like this feature is switched on but Gmail and Google Apps look like they 
 are
 handling this option differently.
 
 What happens for me please keep in mind I do not use a mail client and only
 use the Gmail web interface.
 
 When I start a new message on the Mailing list say my computer is about to
 explode please help which I addressed to the usual address when I send this
 e-mail it only shows up in the Sent Mail option in Gmail. the e-mail
 returns to the inbox when someone replies to the message on list.
 
 When I reply to an e-mail on list say Posting to list not coming back as
 email I send my reply as usual to the normal address but as far as I can 
 see
 I don't receive a copy back from the list but Gmail keeps my reply in-line 
 in
 its conversation view it also appears in the sent mail section.
 
 I hope this helps you a little bit. and here's my question do you have your
 Google apps e-mail address set up using pop or IMAP? in Apple Mail
 
 --
 Regards Kyle
 -
 
 Kyle Kreusch: This E-Mail Was Dictated Using One OF Nuance Communications,
 Dictate Products
 -
 
 User Next, Apple and Macintosh User Group: Website | Facebook | Twitter
 -




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Fwd: A worry?

2011-08-07 Thread Curtis Peter

Hi all
Since sending this email my computer has turned itself off and restarted whilst 
I was using it.
Seems there is something wrong
I restarted using the snow leopard install disk and ran the repair disk without 
any problems.
Any suggestions as to what I could or should do before taking it in to the 
doctor?
Intermittent faults are hard to track down.
Regards
Peter

Begin forwarded message:

 From: Curtis Peter pe...@augold.com.au
 Date: 6 August 2011 10:47:32 AM AWST
 To: wamug@wamug.org.au
 Subject: A worry?
 Reply-To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au
 
 
 Hi all
 I just had a strange thing happen, I use a MacBook Pro, 2.53GHz Intel Core 2 
 Duo with 4GB 1067 MHz DDR3, Mac OS 10.6.8.
 I'm in the process of changing accounting systems from MYOB to MoneyWorks 
 Cashbook , and I am running both in tandem until I change over, being happy 
 with the new program.
 I only mention this as I was running both switching between as entering 
 information.
 As I was entering some information into MYOB I suddenly found I couldn't 
 enter the information any more and the spinning ball appeared (actually in 
 black and white, not as usual coloured) This continued for about three 
 minutes then everything disappeared except for a plain blue screen, no 
 spinning ball. I left this screen to see what would happen for about fifteen 
 minutes then shut down the computer using the on off button. I waited for a 
 while then re booted and the computer restarted no problems, everything seems 
 OK. Ran disk utilities and verified the hard disk, no apparent problems. Re 
 ran disk permissions (had already done this earlier today when backing up 
 with SuperDuper. 
 Never had this happen before, is it a signal that something's wrong? Should I 
 be worried?
 Regards
 Peter
 
 
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Re: Posting to list not coming back as email

2011-08-07 Thread Tim Law
Thanks Ronni,

I've used Bigpond as my sending server in the past, but found it unreliable. 
Using gmail as my sending server has resulted in uninterrupted sending from 
Mail app so it became my server of choice. 

I will try Bigpond again and see if it has become more reliable. Authentication 
has always been off, as has SSL.

Thanks

Tim



On 08/08/2011, at 11:19 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:

 Correction, should be mail.bigpond.com  ...
 Sorry my bad  ;-(
 
 Ronni
 
 Hi Tim,
 
 I at one time was subscribed to WAMUG Mailing list using a gmail IMAP account.
 And what Daniel has explained below is what I experienced.
 
 My sent message to WAMUG Mailing showed in my Sent Box immediately it was 
 sent.
 Then a few seconds later my message appeared in my WAMUG Mailbox.
 
 So I would suggest you have setup your Gmail account differently for this not 
 to be happening.
 
 Like Daniel, I don’t use my gmail account … I have one but don’t use it ;-)
 
 You mention you have your gmail account setup as a POP Account not IMAP.
 If that is the case, I would suggest you have these settings:
 Incoming Mail Server: pop.gmail.com
 Outgoing Mail Server: Your Internet Provider (which you have mentioned is 
 ‘Bigpond'
 Enter the SMTP server for your Internet provider, (which from what you have 
 mentioned is mail.bigpond.net) and tick “Use only this server”.
 Do NOT tick “Use Authentication”.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 On 07/08/2011, at 10:53 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:
 
 
 I don't use gmail at all (do have account, just don't use it), but I find
 when I send an email (be it a new message which I've just started or a reply
 to another), I always get the message coming to me.
 So I don't think it's a matter that the feature is turned off (though I
 could be wrong), but perhaps some other handling of it.
 
 I send my message to wamug@wamug from my registered address
 (wamug@macwizardry) and the message will be in my sent box, and within a few
 minutes the message hits the list and I see my original message. I don't
 have to wait til someone replies to it to see it.
 
 Not sure that helps, but was just clarifying it from another perspective ;o)
 
 Kind regards
 DAniel
 
 
 On 7/8/11 10:40 PM, Tim Law t...@peoplehelp.com.au wrote:
 
 Kyle - wonderful - so I am not alone...
 
 Yay.
 
 Yes, this is what happens to me!!!
 
 I use POP to access my Gmail accounts in Apple Mail
 
 So it seems all is normal and I've nothing to fuss over. If I send a new 
 post
 to WAMUG, then I'll assume it has gone out to the list. And if I want to see
 my own email come back to me, then I will use Bigpond to send the message.
 
 Thanks for clarifying it all Kyle. It's so nice not feeling alone  :-0
 
 Tim
 
 
 
 
 
 On 07/08/2011, at 9:19 PM, Kyle Kreusch wrote:
 
 Hi Tim
 
 Okay I will start with the mailing list software.
 
 Some mailing list software allows you to choose if you receive your 
 original
 e-mail back from the list, WAMUG List does not have this option this option
 is set by the list administrators and I have always presumed it was 
 switched
 off as I never receive my original e-mail back from the list. but it sounds
 like this feature is switched on but Gmail and Google Apps look like they 
 are
 handling this option differently.
 
 What happens for me please keep in mind I do not use a mail client and only
 use the Gmail web interface.
 
 When I start a new message on the Mailing list say my computer is about to
 explode please help which I addressed to the usual address when I send 
 this
 e-mail it only shows up in the Sent Mail option in Gmail. the e-mail
 returns to the inbox when someone replies to the message on list.
 
 When I reply to an e-mail on list say Posting to list not coming back as
 email I send my reply as usual to the normal address but as far as I can 
 see
 I don't receive a copy back from the list but Gmail keeps my reply in-line 
 in
 its conversation view it also appears in the sent mail section.
 
 I hope this helps you a little bit. and here's my question do you have your
 Google apps e-mail address set up using pop or IMAP? in Apple Mail
 
 --
 Regards Kyle
 -
 
 Kyle Kreusch: This E-Mail Was Dictated Using One OF Nuance Communications,
 Dictate Products
 -
 
 User Next, Apple and Macintosh User Group: Website | Facebook | Twitter
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