Re: Posting to list not coming back as email
Thanks for the thought Glenn, I have checked the Gmail settings as you suggest and not found anything that needed to be changed. All Mail was already showing. Remember that I can receive ordinary mail that I sent to myself, just not those that go via the WAMUG listserve when sent from my Mail app - like this email. I will try to send this email via my ISP, Bigpond, and see how that goes. Their mail servers seem less reliable than Gmail, so I set Gmail mail server as default. I'm hoping all this will be resolved when I move to Hosting Services WA at some in the future before MobileMe shuts down. They host my CNAME record, Gmail accounts host my MX record. It was all very easy and 'free', so sad to see it need to be changed. But that's a whole other issue.. :-) Ta Tim On 07/08/2011, at 12:53 PM, Glenn Nicholas wrote: Gmail may be automatically archiving emails that are sent by yourself. Use the Gear icon, Mail Settings, Labels and under System Labels make sure you can see the All mail view. If you check in that view you'll probably see emails that originate from you. Glenn Nicholas OM4 :: On 7 August 2011 12:26, Tim Law t...@peoplehelp.com.au wrote: I am sending this via Gmail web mail, and will see if it is any different. Thanks Tim Sorry for going on about this What I am finding is that if I send a message to the WAMUG list using my webmail account, then it is coming into my Mail account as I would expect. If I send a message to the WAMUG list using my Mail app, routed through Gmail who host my MX records, then the email does not come into mail account, either via webmail or into Mail app, but DOES appear in the WAMUG archives. Given I will move my domain hosting at some point before MobileMe shuts down, I have decided that if I want to contribute to WAMUG, I will do so via webmail, which I have some assurance will act as I expect. Thanks Tim -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Posting to list not coming back as email
Aha, Getting somewhere. So - when I SEND to the WAMUG list using Mail app and the Bigpond mail servers, then my own message comes back to me via the WAMUG list as I would expect. But when I SEND the same using my default Gmail mail server, I don't get it back. I don't understand why this is the case, but at least I have refined down where the problem may lie and I have a work around - simply select Bigpond server when sending a message to the list. Thanks Tim On 07/08/2011, at 2:57 PM, Tim Law wrote: Thanks for the thought Glenn, I have checked the Gmail settings as you suggest and not found anything that needed to be changed. All Mail was already showing. Remember that I can receive ordinary mail that I sent to myself, just not those that go via the WAMUG listserve when sent from my Mail app - like this email. I will try to send this email via my ISP, Bigpond, and see how that goes. Their mail servers seem less reliable than Gmail, so I set Gmail mail server as default. I'm hoping all this will be resolved when I move to Hosting Services WA at some in the future before MobileMe shuts down. They host my CNAME record, Gmail accounts host my MX record. It was all very easy and 'free', so sad to see it need to be changed. But that's a whole other issue.. :-) Ta Tim On 07/08/2011, at 12:53 PM, Glenn Nicholas wrote: Gmail may be automatically archiving emails that are sent by yourself. Use the Gear icon, Mail Settings, Labels and under System Labels make sure you can see the All mail view. If you check in that view you'll probably see emails that originate from you. Glenn Nicholas OM4 :: On 7 August 2011 12:26, Tim Law t...@peoplehelp.com.au wrote: I am sending this via Gmail web mail, and will see if it is any different. Thanks Tim Sorry for going on about this What I am finding is that if I send a message to the WAMUG list using my webmail account, then it is coming into my Mail account as I would expect. If I send a message to the WAMUG list using my Mail app, routed through Gmail who host my MX records, then the email does not come into mail account, either via webmail or into Mail app, but DOES appear in the WAMUG archives. Given I will move my domain hosting at some point before MobileMe shuts down, I have decided that if I want to contribute to WAMUG, I will do so via webmail, which I have some assurance will act as I expect. Thanks Tim -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Wireless modem recommendation
Hi Stuart, NO!! Derek On 07/08/2011, at 12:56 PM, Stuart Evans wrote: Hi Derek, But is it Minty? :-) Stuart Sent from my iPhone On 06/08/2011, at 14:54, Derek Perry dperry...@yahoo.com.au wrote: Hi Mike, I have just installed (today Sat 6th) Bob2 with 3 handsets, so far everything is great, internet phone, will let you know how it goes. Derek On 03/08/2011, at 1:19 PM, Mike Armson wrote: G'Day Belkin no longer provide technical support for iiNet modems. As Bob 1 did not work at this location I went back to the iiNet Ozmail Belkin 2004 modem which has not had any firmware updates. Has anyone got any recommendations for a wireless modem that will work with iiNet naked DSL? -- Mike Armson -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Posting to list not coming back as email
Hi Tim Okay I will start with the mailing list software. Some mailing list software allows you to choose if you receive your original e-mail back from the list, WAMUG List does not have this option this option is set by the list administrators and I have always presumed it was switched off as I never receive my original e-mail back from the list. but it sounds like this feature is switched on but Gmail and Google Apps look like they are handling this option differently. What happens for me please keep in mind I do not use a mail client and only use the Gmail web interface. When I start a new message on the Mailing list say my computer is about to explode please help which I addressed to the usual address when I send this e-mail it only shows up in the Sent Mail option in Gmail. the e-mail returns to the inbox when someone replies to the message on list. When I reply to an e-mail on list say Posting to list not coming back as email I send my reply as usual to the normal address but as far as I can see I don't receive a copy back from the list but Gmail keeps my reply in-line in its conversation view it also appears in the sent mail section. I hope this helps you a little bit. and here's my question do you have your Google apps e-mail address set up using pop or IMAP? in Apple Mail -- Regards Kyle - Kyle Kreusch: This E-Mail Was Dictated Using One OF Nuance Communications, Dictate Products - *User Next*, *Apple and Macintosh User Group*: Websitehttp://usernext.org/| Facebook http://www.facebook.com/UserNext | Twitterhttp://twitter.com/UserNext - -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Posting to list not coming back as email
Kyle - wonderful - so I am not alone... Yay. Yes, this is what happens to me!!! I use POP to access my Gmail accounts in Apple Mail So it seems all is normal and I've nothing to fuss over. If I send a new post to WAMUG, then I'll assume it has gone out to the list. And if I want to see my own email come back to me, then I will use Bigpond to send the message. Thanks for clarifying it all Kyle. It's so nice not feeling alone :-0 Tim On 07/08/2011, at 9:19 PM, Kyle Kreusch wrote: Hi Tim Okay I will start with the mailing list software. Some mailing list software allows you to choose if you receive your original e-mail back from the list, WAMUG List does not have this option this option is set by the list administrators and I have always presumed it was switched off as I never receive my original e-mail back from the list. but it sounds like this feature is switched on but Gmail and Google Apps look like they are handling this option differently. What happens for me please keep in mind I do not use a mail client and only use the Gmail web interface. When I start a new message on the Mailing list say my computer is about to explode please help which I addressed to the usual address when I send this e-mail it only shows up in the Sent Mail option in Gmail. the e-mail returns to the inbox when someone replies to the message on list. When I reply to an e-mail on list say Posting to list not coming back as email I send my reply as usual to the normal address but as far as I can see I don't receive a copy back from the list but Gmail keeps my reply in-line in its conversation view it also appears in the sent mail section. I hope this helps you a little bit. and here's my question do you have your Google apps e-mail address set up using pop or IMAP? in Apple Mail -- Regards Kyle - Kyle Kreusch: This E-Mail Was Dictated Using One OF Nuance Communications, Dictate Products - User Next, Apple and Macintosh User Group: Website | Facebook | Twitter - -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
eCensus
Has anyone got any feedback on compatibility of eCensus with Safari? A preliminary inspection makes no mention of Mac or Safari and i am wondering whether I will need to use Windows/Explorer' Severin Crisp I have my ECN and CFN codes Assoc Professor R Severin Crisp, FIP, CPhys, FAIP 15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia. Phone (08) 9842 1950 (Int'l +61 8 9842 1950) email mailto:sevcr...@westnet.com.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Posting to list not coming back as email
I don't use gmail at all (do have account, just don't use it), but I find when I send an email (be it a new message which I've just started or a reply to another), I always get the message coming to me. So I don't think it's a matter that the feature is turned off (though I could be wrong), but perhaps some other handling of it. I send my message to wamug@wamug from my registered address (wamug@macwizardry) and the message will be in my sent box, and within a few minutes the message hits the list and I see my original message. I don't have to wait til someone replies to it to see it. Not sure that helps, but was just clarifying it from another perspective ;o) Kind regards DAniel On 7/8/11 10:40 PM, Tim Law t...@peoplehelp.com.au wrote: Kyle - wonderful - so I am not alone... Yay. Yes, this is what happens to me!!! I use POP to access my Gmail accounts in Apple Mail So it seems all is normal and I've nothing to fuss over. If I send a new post to WAMUG, then I'll assume it has gone out to the list. And if I want to see my own email come back to me, then I will use Bigpond to send the message. Thanks for clarifying it all Kyle. It's so nice not feeling alone :-0 Tim On 07/08/2011, at 9:19 PM, Kyle Kreusch wrote: Hi Tim Okay I will start with the mailing list software. Some mailing list software allows you to choose if you receive your original e-mail back from the list, WAMUG List does not have this option this option is set by the list administrators and I have always presumed it was switched off as I never receive my original e-mail back from the list. but it sounds like this feature is switched on but Gmail and Google Apps look like they are handling this option differently. What happens for me please keep in mind I do not use a mail client and only use the Gmail web interface. When I start a new message on the Mailing list say my computer is about to explode please help which I addressed to the usual address when I send this e-mail it only shows up in the Sent Mail option in Gmail. the e-mail returns to the inbox when someone replies to the message on list. When I reply to an e-mail on list say Posting to list not coming back as email I send my reply as usual to the normal address but as far as I can see I don't receive a copy back from the list but Gmail keeps my reply in-line in its conversation view it also appears in the sent mail section. I hope this helps you a little bit. and here's my question do you have your Google apps e-mail address set up using pop or IMAP? in Apple Mail -- Regards Kyle - Kyle Kreusch: This E-Mail Was Dictated Using One OF Nuance Communications, Dictate Products - User Next, Apple and Macintosh User Group: Website | Facebook | Twitter - -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel @ macwizardry . com . au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Macintosh** -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: eCensus
The eCensus worked just fine for me on latest Safari, no problems at all. On 07/08/2011, at 10:49 PM, Severin Crisp sevcr...@westnet.com.au wrote: Has anyone got any feedback on compatibility of eCensus with Safari? A preliminary inspection makes no mention of Mac or Safari and i am wondering whether I will need to use Windows/Explorer' Severin Crisp I have my ECN and CFN codes Assoc Professor R Severin Crisp, FIP, CPhys, FAIP 15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia. Phone (08) 9842 1950 (Int'l +61 8 9842 1950) email mailto:sevcr...@westnet.com.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Posting to list not coming back as email
Hi Tim I use POP to access my Gmail accounts in Apple Mail That's what I fought you might be using if you can consider switching to IMAP when someone replies to one of your original messages sent to the list that message would gets move to the inbox in Apple Mail most likely. I know IMAP is not an option for everyone if you have low bandwidth available, this could also be solved using a rule in Apple Mail or preferably using a filter on the Gmail servers Let me have a look to see if I can make a filter to help you out. Personally this has never bothered me, if it goes to the sent items the e-mail has been sent and if there's any problems normally the mail server will send you an error e-mail back. -- Regards Kyle - Kyle Kreusch: This E-Mail Was Dictated Using One OF Nuance Communications, Dictate Products - *User Next*, *Apple and Macintosh User Group*: Websitehttp://usernext.org/| Facebook http://www.facebook.com/UserNext | Twitterhttp://twitter.com/UserNext - -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: eCensus
Hi Severin, There is no problem at all with Safari. I have submitted an eCensus and received confirmation for two households using Mac OS X and Safari. Incidentally, if you know who will be in your house on Tuesday night, you can submit your eCensus form online now. You will get a confirmation number to write down on your eCensus pass code sheet. Cheers, Carlo On 2011-08-07, at 22:49, Severin Crisp wrote: Has anyone got any feedback on compatibility of eCensus with Safari? A preliminary inspection makes no mention of Mac or Safari and i am wondering whether I will need to use Windows/Explorer' Severin Crisp I have my ECN and CFN codes Assoc Professor R Severin Crisp, FIP, CPhys, FAIP 15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia. Phone (08) 9842 1950 (Int'l +61 8 9842 1950) email mailto:sevcr...@westnet.com.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Posting to list not coming back as email
Hello Kyle, What I have been expecting is what Daniel describes. What I have been getting is what you and I experience. Now I know I am not alone, and that the list IS getting any posting I make, I'm settled with this outcome. I tried IMAP before and for some reason was pleased when I moved to POP, which works fine for me now. What it does mean of course is actually something much worse, that if no one has responded to a posting then it has been too lame to bother with. :-( Or perhaps I should assume it was just so enlightening that the OP was stunned by clarity and helpfulness. Yes, I like that solution better. Thanks again for your explanations and clarification. Regards Tim On 07/08/2011, at 10:54 PM, Kyle Kreusch wrote: Hi Tim I use POP to access my Gmail accounts in Apple Mail That's what I fought you might be using if you can consider switching to IMAP when someone replies to one of your original messages sent to the list that message would gets move to the inbox in Apple Mail most likely. I know IMAP is not an option for everyone if you have low bandwidth available, this could also be solved using a rule in Apple Mail or preferably using a filter on the Gmail servers Let me have a look to see if I can make a filter to help you out. Personally this has never bothered me, if it goes to the sent items the e-mail has been sent and if there's any problems normally the mail server will send you an error e-mail back. -- Regards Kyle - Kyle Kreusch: This E-Mail Was Dictated Using One OF Nuance Communications, Dictate Products - User Next, Apple and Macintosh User Group: Website | Facebook | Twitter - -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: eCensus
The eCensus paper states Safari as one of the supported browsers. No mention is made of OS's. Rgds John T On 07/08/2011, at 10:49 PM, Severin Crisp wrote: Has anyone got any feedback on compatibility of eCensus with Safari? A preliminary inspection makes no mention of Mac or Safari and i am wondering whether I will need to use Windows/Explorer' Severin Crisp I have my ECN and CFN codes Assoc Professor R Severin Crisp, FIP, CPhys, FAIP 15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia. Phone (08) 9842 1950 (Int'l +61 8 9842 1950) email mailto:sevcr...@westnet.com.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: eCensus
I used Firefox on my Mac with no problems last night. Regards, Eugene On 08/08/2011, at 8:16 AM, John Thompson wrote:The eCensus paper states Safari as one of the supported browsers. No mention is made of OS's.RgdsJohn TOn 07/08/2011, at 10:49 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:Has anyone got any feedback on compatibility of eCensus with Safari? A preliminary inspection makes no mention of Mac or Safari and i am wondering whether I will need to use Windows/Explorer' Severin CrispI have my ECN and CFN codes Assoc Professor R Severin Crisp, FIP, CPhys, FAIP 15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia. Phone (08) 9842 1950 (Int'l +61 8 9842 1950) email mailto:sevcr...@westnet.com.au --TheWAMacintoshUserGroupMailingList-- Archives-http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines-http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe-mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au --TheWAMacintoshUserGroupMailingList-- Archives-http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines-http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe-mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au --TheWAMacintoshUserGroupMailingList-- Archives-http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines-http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe-mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: eCensus
Just completed mine with Safari, no problems. John T On 08/08/2011, at 8:30 AM, Eugene wrote: I used Firefox on my Mac with no problems last night. Regards, Eugene (null) 4.tiff On 08/08/2011, at 8:16 AM, John Thompson wrote: The eCensus paper states Safari as one of the supported browsers. No mention is made of OS's. Rgds John T On 07/08/2011, at 10:49 PM, Severin Crisp wrote: Has anyone got any feedback on compatibility of eCensus with Safari? A preliminary inspection makes no mention of Mac or Safari and i am wondering whether I will need to use Windows/Explorer' Severin Crisp I have my ECN and CFN codes Assoc Professor R Severin Crisp, FIP, CPhys, FAIP 15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia. Phone (08) 9842 1950 (Int'l +61 8 9842 1950) email mailto:sevcr...@westnet.com.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: eCensus
On 07/08/2011, at 10:49 PM, Severin Crisp wrote: Has anyone got any feedback on compatibility of eCensus with Safari? A preliminary inspection makes no mention of Mac or Safari and i am wondering whether I will need to use Windows/Explorer' Severin Crisp I have my ECN and CFN codes Hi Severin, Works perfectly in Safari 5.1 … very quick and easy. Much quicker and easier than the physical paperwork ;-) Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD OS X 10.6.8 Snow Leopard OS X 10.7 Lion Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance) -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Update crash
My daughter-in law ran a Snow Leopard update via the apple updater on her new 27 iMac last night and now it won't start, says it can't find a valid start disk. Can someone please suggest a starting point to try and resolve this please. Unfortunately I don't know what the update was, she just clicked on the install option. Regards Adrian Sent from my iPhone -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Posting to list not coming back as email
Hi Tim, I at one time was subscribed to WAMUG Mailing list using a gmail IMAP account. And what Daniel has explained below is what I experienced. My sent message to WAMUG Mailing showed in my Sent Box immediately it was sent. Then a few seconds later my message appeared in my WAMUG Mailbox. So I would suggest you have setup your Gmail account differently for this not to be happening. Like Daniel, I don’t use my gmail account … I have one but don’t use it ;-) You mention you have your gmail account setup as a POP Account not IMAP. If that is the case, I would suggest you have these settings: Incoming Mail Server: pop.gmail.com Outgoing Mail Server: Your Internet Provider (which you have mentioned is ‘Bigpond' Enter the SMTP server for your Internet provider, (which from what you have mentioned is mail.bigpond.net) and tick “Use only this server”. Do NOT tick “Use Authentication”. Cheers, Ronni On 07/08/2011, at 10:53 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote: I don't use gmail at all (do have account, just don't use it), but I find when I send an email (be it a new message which I've just started or a reply to another), I always get the message coming to me. So I don't think it's a matter that the feature is turned off (though I could be wrong), but perhaps some other handling of it. I send my message to wamug@wamug from my registered address (wamug@macwizardry) and the message will be in my sent box, and within a few minutes the message hits the list and I see my original message. I don't have to wait til someone replies to it to see it. Not sure that helps, but was just clarifying it from another perspective ;o) Kind regards DAniel On 7/8/11 10:40 PM, Tim Law t...@peoplehelp.com.au wrote: Kyle - wonderful - so I am not alone... Yay. Yes, this is what happens to me!!! I use POP to access my Gmail accounts in Apple Mail So it seems all is normal and I've nothing to fuss over. If I send a new post to WAMUG, then I'll assume it has gone out to the list. And if I want to see my own email come back to me, then I will use Bigpond to send the message. Thanks for clarifying it all Kyle. It's so nice not feeling alone :-0 Tim On 07/08/2011, at 9:19 PM, Kyle Kreusch wrote: Hi Tim Okay I will start with the mailing list software. Some mailing list software allows you to choose if you receive your original e-mail back from the list, WAMUG List does not have this option this option is set by the list administrators and I have always presumed it was switched off as I never receive my original e-mail back from the list. but it sounds like this feature is switched on but Gmail and Google Apps look like they are handling this option differently. What happens for me please keep in mind I do not use a mail client and only use the Gmail web interface. When I start a new message on the Mailing list say my computer is about to explode please help which I addressed to the usual address when I send this e-mail it only shows up in the Sent Mail option in Gmail. the e-mail returns to the inbox when someone replies to the message on list. When I reply to an e-mail on list say Posting to list not coming back as email I send my reply as usual to the normal address but as far as I can see I don't receive a copy back from the list but Gmail keeps my reply in-line in its conversation view it also appears in the sent mail section. I hope this helps you a little bit. and here's my question do you have your Google apps e-mail address set up using pop or IMAP? in Apple Mail -- Regards Kyle - Kyle Kreusch: This E-Mail Was Dictated Using One OF Nuance Communications, Dictate Products - User Next, Apple and Macintosh User Group: Website | Facebook | Twitter - -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Posting to list not coming back as email
Correction, should be mail.bigpond.com ... Sorry my bad ;-( Ronni Hi Tim, I at one time was subscribed to WAMUG Mailing list using a gmail IMAP account. And what Daniel has explained below is what I experienced. My sent message to WAMUG Mailing showed in my Sent Box immediately it was sent. Then a few seconds later my message appeared in my WAMUG Mailbox. So I would suggest you have setup your Gmail account differently for this not to be happening. Like Daniel, I don’t use my gmail account … I have one but don’t use it ;-) You mention you have your gmail account setup as a POP Account not IMAP. If that is the case, I would suggest you have these settings: Incoming Mail Server: pop.gmail.com Outgoing Mail Server: Your Internet Provider (which you have mentioned is ‘Bigpond' Enter the SMTP server for your Internet provider, (which from what you have mentioned is mail.bigpond.net) and tick “Use only this server”. Do NOT tick “Use Authentication”. Cheers, Ronni On 07/08/2011, at 10:53 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote: I don't use gmail at all (do have account, just don't use it), but I find when I send an email (be it a new message which I've just started or a reply to another), I always get the message coming to me. So I don't think it's a matter that the feature is turned off (though I could be wrong), but perhaps some other handling of it. I send my message to wamug@wamug from my registered address (wamug@macwizardry) and the message will be in my sent box, and within a few minutes the message hits the list and I see my original message. I don't have to wait til someone replies to it to see it. Not sure that helps, but was just clarifying it from another perspective ;o) Kind regards DAniel On 7/8/11 10:40 PM, Tim Law t...@peoplehelp.com.au wrote: Kyle - wonderful - so I am not alone... Yay. Yes, this is what happens to me!!! I use POP to access my Gmail accounts in Apple Mail So it seems all is normal and I've nothing to fuss over. If I send a new post to WAMUG, then I'll assume it has gone out to the list. And if I want to see my own email come back to me, then I will use Bigpond to send the message. Thanks for clarifying it all Kyle. It's so nice not feeling alone :-0 Tim On 07/08/2011, at 9:19 PM, Kyle Kreusch wrote: Hi Tim Okay I will start with the mailing list software. Some mailing list software allows you to choose if you receive your original e-mail back from the list, WAMUG List does not have this option this option is set by the list administrators and I have always presumed it was switched off as I never receive my original e-mail back from the list. but it sounds like this feature is switched on but Gmail and Google Apps look like they are handling this option differently. What happens for me please keep in mind I do not use a mail client and only use the Gmail web interface. When I start a new message on the Mailing list say my computer is about to explode please help which I addressed to the usual address when I send this e-mail it only shows up in the Sent Mail option in Gmail. the e-mail returns to the inbox when someone replies to the message on list. When I reply to an e-mail on list say Posting to list not coming back as email I send my reply as usual to the normal address but as far as I can see I don't receive a copy back from the list but Gmail keeps my reply in-line in its conversation view it also appears in the sent mail section. I hope this helps you a little bit. and here's my question do you have your Google apps e-mail address set up using pop or IMAP? in Apple Mail -- Regards Kyle - Kyle Kreusch: This E-Mail Was Dictated Using One OF Nuance Communications, Dictate Products - User Next, Apple and Macintosh User Group: Website | Facebook | Twitter - -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Fwd: A worry?
Hi all Since sending this email my computer has turned itself off and restarted whilst I was using it. Seems there is something wrong I restarted using the snow leopard install disk and ran the repair disk without any problems. Any suggestions as to what I could or should do before taking it in to the doctor? Intermittent faults are hard to track down. Regards Peter Begin forwarded message: From: Curtis Peter pe...@augold.com.au Date: 6 August 2011 10:47:32 AM AWST To: wamug@wamug.org.au Subject: A worry? Reply-To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au Hi all I just had a strange thing happen, I use a MacBook Pro, 2.53GHz Intel Core 2 Duo with 4GB 1067 MHz DDR3, Mac OS 10.6.8. I'm in the process of changing accounting systems from MYOB to MoneyWorks Cashbook , and I am running both in tandem until I change over, being happy with the new program. I only mention this as I was running both switching between as entering information. As I was entering some information into MYOB I suddenly found I couldn't enter the information any more and the spinning ball appeared (actually in black and white, not as usual coloured) This continued for about three minutes then everything disappeared except for a plain blue screen, no spinning ball. I left this screen to see what would happen for about fifteen minutes then shut down the computer using the on off button. I waited for a while then re booted and the computer restarted no problems, everything seems OK. Ran disk utilities and verified the hard disk, no apparent problems. Re ran disk permissions (had already done this earlier today when backing up with SuperDuper. Never had this happen before, is it a signal that something's wrong? Should I be worried? Regards Peter -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Posting to list not coming back as email
Thanks Ronni, I've used Bigpond as my sending server in the past, but found it unreliable. Using gmail as my sending server has resulted in uninterrupted sending from Mail app so it became my server of choice. I will try Bigpond again and see if it has become more reliable. Authentication has always been off, as has SSL. Thanks Tim On 08/08/2011, at 11:19 AM, Ronda Brown wrote: Correction, should be mail.bigpond.com ... Sorry my bad ;-( Ronni Hi Tim, I at one time was subscribed to WAMUG Mailing list using a gmail IMAP account. And what Daniel has explained below is what I experienced. My sent message to WAMUG Mailing showed in my Sent Box immediately it was sent. Then a few seconds later my message appeared in my WAMUG Mailbox. So I would suggest you have setup your Gmail account differently for this not to be happening. Like Daniel, I don’t use my gmail account … I have one but don’t use it ;-) You mention you have your gmail account setup as a POP Account not IMAP. If that is the case, I would suggest you have these settings: Incoming Mail Server: pop.gmail.com Outgoing Mail Server: Your Internet Provider (which you have mentioned is ‘Bigpond' Enter the SMTP server for your Internet provider, (which from what you have mentioned is mail.bigpond.net) and tick “Use only this server”. Do NOT tick “Use Authentication”. Cheers, Ronni On 07/08/2011, at 10:53 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote: I don't use gmail at all (do have account, just don't use it), but I find when I send an email (be it a new message which I've just started or a reply to another), I always get the message coming to me. So I don't think it's a matter that the feature is turned off (though I could be wrong), but perhaps some other handling of it. I send my message to wamug@wamug from my registered address (wamug@macwizardry) and the message will be in my sent box, and within a few minutes the message hits the list and I see my original message. I don't have to wait til someone replies to it to see it. Not sure that helps, but was just clarifying it from another perspective ;o) Kind regards DAniel On 7/8/11 10:40 PM, Tim Law t...@peoplehelp.com.au wrote: Kyle - wonderful - so I am not alone... Yay. Yes, this is what happens to me!!! I use POP to access my Gmail accounts in Apple Mail So it seems all is normal and I've nothing to fuss over. If I send a new post to WAMUG, then I'll assume it has gone out to the list. And if I want to see my own email come back to me, then I will use Bigpond to send the message. Thanks for clarifying it all Kyle. It's so nice not feeling alone :-0 Tim On 07/08/2011, at 9:19 PM, Kyle Kreusch wrote: Hi Tim Okay I will start with the mailing list software. Some mailing list software allows you to choose if you receive your original e-mail back from the list, WAMUG List does not have this option this option is set by the list administrators and I have always presumed it was switched off as I never receive my original e-mail back from the list. but it sounds like this feature is switched on but Gmail and Google Apps look like they are handling this option differently. What happens for me please keep in mind I do not use a mail client and only use the Gmail web interface. When I start a new message on the Mailing list say my computer is about to explode please help which I addressed to the usual address when I send this e-mail it only shows up in the Sent Mail option in Gmail. the e-mail returns to the inbox when someone replies to the message on list. When I reply to an e-mail on list say Posting to list not coming back as email I send my reply as usual to the normal address but as far as I can see I don't receive a copy back from the list but Gmail keeps my reply in-line in its conversation view it also appears in the sent mail section. I hope this helps you a little bit. and here's my question do you have your Google apps e-mail address set up using pop or IMAP? in Apple Mail -- Regards Kyle - Kyle Kreusch: This E-Mail Was Dictated Using One OF Nuance Communications, Dictate Products - User Next, Apple and Macintosh User Group: Website | Facebook | Twitter - -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives -