Re: OS X Mountain Lion v10.8.4 Update
Hi, there has been no optical drive on the Mac Mini for the same period as with iMacs. The latest ones will have USB 3, but not Firewire. cheers, Susan. --- Susan Hastings Mobile: 0409 688 004 susanhasti...@mac.com On 06/06/2013, at 11:20 AM, John Thompson jet...@iprimus.com.au wrote: Downloaded the 10.8.4 Update package and did a manual install at a time suitable to me. Mac would not re-start automatically after the installation. Tried several times and ended up with the plain white screen. Physically powered the machine down and then manually re-started. All now works fine. Appears to be quite a bit zippier, or is that just my imagination? On another topic. What would be the benefit of upgrading my Mac Mini to the latest model, and if I do, which one would be best? I do like the Mac Mini which I have been using since the first one came out. I had a look at the 27 iMac a few days ago and was quite disappointed in that Apple had dropped the optical drive and Firewire. John Thompson WAMUG #861 Mac Mini 2.53 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo 4 GB 1067 MHz DDR3 Mac OS X 10.8.2 jet...@iprimus.com.au On 06/06/2013, at 10:59 AM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote: Hi Ronni A relief that the OS X update is not universally buggy! Just installed the combo update on both Mac One and Mac Two. A pity it included the Safari update. Still no access to the SBS website from either Mac. I will go throught all the settings check lists you have supplied after I do a complete power shut down and reset of my total equipment. Then a new thread if I have further cries for help - - -. Cheers Alan On 06/06/2013, at 10:24 AM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: The bug? Mac One with 10.8.4 cannot access SBS website. Mac two with 10.8.3 was OK; when updated to 10.8.4 it could no longer access the SBS website The update has not created any 'Bugs' problems for me. Safari v6.0.5 loads SBS website very fast ( there is a lot of flash on that site) http://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/ http:/www.sbs.com.au Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 06/06/2013, at 9:10 AM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Sorry about that: Combo Update File Size: 809.98 MB System Requirements http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1659 Delta Update 342.33MB System Requirements OS X Mountain Lion v10.8.3 http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1658 Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 06/06/2013, at 8:53 AM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote: The delta and combo links given refer to OS X Mountain Lion 10.8.3 update, not 10.8.4. The auto-update to 10.8.4 introduced a bug to my Macs: I will install the combo update when it becomes available. The bug? Mac One with 10.8.4 cannot access SBS website. Mac two with 10.8.3 was OK; when updated to 10.8.4 it could no longer access the SBS website. (I was part way through Ronni's SBS problem check list when I realised I was using 10.8.4 - - -.) Cheers Alan On 06/06/2013, at 6:35 AM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Apple has released the OS X Mountain Lion 10.8.4 update, along with Safari 6.0.5, fixing a number of lingering bugs that were missed by the 10.8.3 update back in March. The free update is available via the Mac App Store, with delta(540.46 MB — from 10.8.2) and combo (793.69 MB — from any version of 10.8) updaters now ready for download from the Apple Support Downloads site About the OS X Mountain Lion v10.8.4 Update http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5730 As with all updates backup your system before updating. Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List --
Re: OS X Mountain Lion v10.8.4 Update
Hi folks, When I first started my iMac after the update, there was no menu bar at top of screen. I was able to open an application though from the dock. Once I did that the menu bar appeared. So I shut down, waited a few minutes, then started up again. And WOW it was up and going very fast ! I reckon it is zippier John ! On 06/06/2013, at 11:20 AM, John Thompson jet...@iprimus.com.au wrote: Downloaded the 10.8.4 Update package and did a manual install at a time suitable to me. Mac would not re-start automatically after the installation. Tried several times and ended up with the plain white screen. Physically powered the machine down and then manually re-started. All now works fine. Appears to be quite a bit zippier, or is that just my imagination? On another topic. What would be the benefit of upgrading my Mac Mini to the latest model, and if I do, which one would be best? I do like the Mac Mini which I have been using since the first one came out. I had a look at the 27 iMac a few days ago and was quite disappointed in that Apple had dropped the optical drive and Firewire. John Thompson WAMUG #861 Mac Mini 2.53 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo 4 GB 1067 MHz DDR3 Mac OS X 10.8.2 jet...@iprimus.com.au On 06/06/2013, at 10:59 AM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote: Hi Ronni A relief that the OS X update is not universally buggy! Just installed the combo update on both Mac One and Mac Two. A pity it included the Safari update. Still no access to the SBS website from either Mac. I will go throught all the settings check lists you have supplied after I do a complete power shut down and reset of my total equipment. Then a new thread if I have further cries for help - - -. Cheers Alan On 06/06/2013, at 10:24 AM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: The bug? Mac One with 10.8.4 cannot access SBS website. Mac two with 10.8.3 was OK; when updated to 10.8.4 it could no longer access the SBS website The update has not created any 'Bugs' problems for me. Safari v6.0.5 loads SBS website very fast ( there is a lot of flash on that site) http://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/ http:/www.sbs.com.au Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 06/06/2013, at 9:10 AM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Sorry about that: Combo Update File Size: 809.98 MB System Requirements http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1659 Delta Update 342.33MB System Requirements OS X Mountain Lion v10.8.3 http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1658 Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 06/06/2013, at 8:53 AM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote: The delta and combo links given refer to OS X Mountain Lion 10.8.3 update, not 10.8.4. The auto-update to 10.8.4 introduced a bug to my Macs: I will install the combo update when it becomes available. The bug? Mac One with 10.8.4 cannot access SBS website. Mac two with 10.8.3 was OK; when updated to 10.8.4 it could no longer access the SBS website. (I was part way through Ronni's SBS problem check list when I realised I was using 10.8.4 - - -.) Cheers Alan On 06/06/2013, at 6:35 AM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Apple has released the OS X Mountain Lion 10.8.4 update, along with Safari 6.0.5, fixing a number of lingering bugs that were missed by the 10.8.3 update back in March. The free update is available via the Mac App Store, with delta(540.46 MB — from 10.8.2) and combo (793.69 MB — from any version of 10.8) updaters now ready for download from the Apple Support Downloads site About the OS X Mountain Lion v10.8.4 Update http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5730 As with all updates backup your system before updating. Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe -
Re: OS X Mountain Lion v10.8.4 Update
I found the update a very smooth installation; no problems what so ever. I do always backup my system first, and Repair Permissions before doing an update and repair permissions after installing the update. Plus I prefer to download and install the Combo Update, not update through Software Update. OS X 10.8.4 is snappier than OS X 10.8.3 and Safari is much faster loading webpages. Apple do warn: You may experience unexpected results if you have third-party system software modifications installed, or if you've modified the operating system through other means. OS X 10.8.4 will possibly be the last update to OS X 10.8 In announcing the conference back in late April, Apple unsurprisingly revealed that it will be delivering new versions of iOS and OS X to developers, undoubtedly referring to iOS 7 and OS X 10.9. And as has become tradition since Apple moved its iPhone launches later in the year starting in 2011, WWDC 2013 is indeed expected to live up to its developer focus with an emphasis on software. Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 06/06/2013, at 7:14 PM, Stephen Chape chap...@bigpond.com wrote: Hi folks, When I first started my iMac after the update, there was no menu bar at top of screen. I was able to open an application though from the dock. Once I did that the menu bar appeared. So I shut down, waited a few minutes, then started up again. And WOW it was up and going very fast ! I reckon it is zippier John ! On 06/06/2013, at 11:20 AM, John Thompson jet...@iprimus.com.au wrote: Downloaded the 10.8.4 Update package and did a manual install at a time suitable to me. Mac would not re-start automatically after the installation. Tried several times and ended up with the plain white screen. Physically powered the machine down and then manually re-started. All now works fine. Appears to be quite a bit zippier, or is that just my imagination? On another topic. What would be the benefit of upgrading my Mac Mini to the latest model, and if I do, which one would be best? I do like the Mac Mini which I have been using since the first one came out. I had a look at the 27 iMac a few days ago and was quite disappointed in that Apple had dropped the optical drive and Firewire. John Thompson WAMUG #861 Mac Mini 2.53 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo 4 GB 1067 MHz DDR3 Mac OS X 10.8.2 jet...@iprimus.com.au On 06/06/2013, at 10:59 AM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote: Hi Ronni A relief that the OS X update is not universally buggy! Just installed the combo update on both Mac One and Mac Two. A pity it included the Safari update. Still no access to the SBS website from either Mac. I will go throught all the settings check lists you have supplied after I do a complete power shut down and reset of my total equipment. Then a new thread if I have further cries for help - - -. Cheers Alan On 06/06/2013, at 10:24 AM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: The bug? Mac One with 10.8.4 cannot access SBS website. Mac two with 10.8.3 was OK; when updated to 10.8.4 it could no longer access the SBS website The update has not created any 'Bugs' problems for me. Safari v6.0.5 loads SBS website very fast ( there is a lot of flash on that site) http://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/ http:/www.sbs.com.au Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 06/06/2013, at 9:10 AM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Sorry about that: Combo Update File Size: 809.98 MB System Requirements http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1659 Delta Update 342.33MB System Requirements OS X Mountain Lion v10.8.3 http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1658 Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 06/06/2013, at 8:53 AM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote: The delta and combo links given refer to OS X Mountain Lion 10.8.3 update, not 10.8.4. The auto-update to 10.8.4 introduced a bug to my Macs: I will install the combo update when it becomes available. The bug? Mac One with 10.8.4 cannot access SBS website. Mac two with 10.8.3 was OK; when updated to 10.8.4 it could no longer access the SBS website. (I was part way through Ronni's SBS problem check list when I realised I was using 10.8.4 - - -.) Cheers Alan On 06/06/2013, at 6:35 AM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Apple has released the OS X Mountain Lion 10.8.4 update, along with Safari 6.0.5, fixing a number of lingering bugs that were missed by the 10.8.3 update back in March. The free update is available via the Mac App Store, with delta(540.46 MB — from 10.8.2) and combo (793.69 MB — from any version of 10.8) updaters now ready for download from the Apple Support Downloads site About the OS X Mountain Lion v10.8.4 Update http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5730 As with all updates backup your system before updating. Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml
Re: OS X Mountain Lion v10.8.4 Update
Thanks Susan. I suspected as much but have not looked too deeply into the configuration of the Mac Mini. I am not sure what we are supposed to do when it comes to things like making DVD's; just add another clunking piece of equipment to your desk I guess. So saying, I do like 10.8.4. It now works much faster and more at the rate we should expect. Boots up from cold in less than half the time. John Thompson On 06/06/2013, at 4:53 PM, Susan Hastings susanhasti...@me.com wrote: Hi, there has been no optical drive on the Mac Mini for the same period as with iMacs. The latest ones will have USB 3, but not Firewire. cheers, Susan. --- Susan Hastings Mobile: 0409 688 004 susanhasti...@mac.com On 06/06/2013, at 11:20 AM, John Thompson jet...@iprimus.com.au wrote: Downloaded the 10.8.4 Update package and did a manual install at a time suitable to me. Mac would not re-start automatically after the installation. Tried several times and ended up with the plain white screen. Physically powered the machine down and then manually re-started. All now works fine. Appears to be quite a bit zippier, or is that just my imagination? On another topic. What would be the benefit of upgrading my Mac Mini to the latest model, and if I do, which one would be best? I do like the Mac Mini which I have been using since the first one came out. I had a look at the 27 iMac a few days ago and was quite disappointed in that Apple had dropped the optical drive and Firewire. John Thompson WAMUG #861 Mac Mini 2.53 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo 4 GB 1067 MHz DDR3 Mac OS X 10.8.2 jet...@iprimus.com.au On 06/06/2013, at 10:59 AM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote: Hi Ronni A relief that the OS X update is not universally buggy! Just installed the combo update on both Mac One and Mac Two. A pity it included the Safari update. Still no access to the SBS website from either Mac. I will go throught all the settings check lists you have supplied after I do a complete power shut down and reset of my total equipment. Then a new thread if I have further cries for help - - -. Cheers Alan On 06/06/2013, at 10:24 AM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: The bug? Mac One with 10.8.4 cannot access SBS website. Mac two with 10.8.3 was OK; when updated to 10.8.4 it could no longer access the SBS website The update has not created any 'Bugs' problems for me. Safari v6.0.5 loads SBS website very fast ( there is a lot of flash on that site) http://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/ http:/www.sbs.com.au Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 06/06/2013, at 9:10 AM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Sorry about that: Combo Update File Size: 809.98 MB System Requirements http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1659 Delta Update 342.33MB System Requirements OS X Mountain Lion v10.8.3 http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1658 Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 06/06/2013, at 8:53 AM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote: The delta and combo links given refer to OS X Mountain Lion 10.8.3 update, not 10.8.4. The auto-update to 10.8.4 introduced a bug to my Macs: I will install the combo update when it becomes available. The bug? Mac One with 10.8.4 cannot access SBS website. Mac two with 10.8.3 was OK; when updated to 10.8.4 it could no longer access the SBS website. (I was part way through Ronni's SBS problem check list when I realised I was using 10.8.4 - - -.) Cheers Alan On 06/06/2013, at 6:35 AM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Apple has released the OS X Mountain Lion 10.8.4 update, along with Safari 6.0.5, fixing a number of lingering bugs that were missed by the 10.8.3 update back in March. The free update is available via the Mac App Store, with delta(540.46 MB — from 10.8.2) and combo (793.69 MB — from any version of 10.8) updaters now ready for download from the Apple Support Downloads site About the OS X Mountain Lion v10.8.4 Update http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5730 As with all updates backup your system before updating. Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives -
Re: OS X Mountain Lion v10.8.4 Update
Hi John, You need to purchase Apple USB SuperDrive. They are quite small and work really well. I purchased one for my Son-n-Law when I did the transfer and setup of his new iMac. They are only $89AU http://store.apple.com/au/product/MD564ZM/A/apple-usb-superdrive?afid=p219%7CGOAUcid=AOS-AU-KWG Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 07/06/2013, at 6:26 AM, John Thompson jet...@iprimus.com.au wrote: Thanks Susan. I suspected as much but have not looked too deeply into the configuration of the Mac Mini. I am not sure what we are supposed to do when it comes to things like making DVD's; just add another clunking piece of equipment to your desk I guess. So saying, I do like 10.8.4. It now works much faster and more at the rate we should expect. Boots up from cold in less than half the time. John Thompson On 06/06/2013, at 4:53 PM, Susan Hastings susanhasti...@me.com wrote: Hi, there has been no optical drive on the Mac Mini for the same period as with iMacs. The latest ones will have USB 3, but not Firewire. cheers, Susan. --- Susan Hastings Mobile: 0409 688 004 susanhasti...@mac.com On 06/06/2013, at 11:20 AM, John Thompson jet...@iprimus.com.au wrote: Downloaded the 10.8.4 Update package and did a manual install at a time suitable to me. Mac would not re-start automatically after the installation. Tried several times and ended up with the plain white screen. Physically powered the machine down and then manually re-started. All now works fine. Appears to be quite a bit zippier, or is that just my imagination? On another topic. What would be the benefit of upgrading my Mac Mini to the latest model, and if I do, which one would be best? I do like the Mac Mini which I have been using since the first one came out. I had a look at the 27 iMac a few days ago and was quite disappointed in that Apple had dropped the optical drive and Firewire. John Thompson WAMUG #861 Mac Mini 2.53 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo 4 GB 1067 MHz DDR3 Mac OS X 10.8.2 jet...@iprimus.com.au On 06/06/2013, at 10:59 AM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote: Hi Ronni A relief that the OS X update is not universally buggy! Just installed the combo update on both Mac One and Mac Two. A pity it included the Safari update. Still no access to the SBS website from either Mac. I will go throught all the settings check lists you have supplied after I do a complete power shut down and reset of my total equipment. Then a new thread if I have further cries for help - - -. Cheers Alan On 06/06/2013, at 10:24 AM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: The bug? Mac One with 10.8.4 cannot access SBS website. Mac two with 10.8.3 was OK; when updated to 10.8.4 it could no longer access the SBS website The update has not created any 'Bugs' problems for me. Safari v6.0.5 loads SBS website very fast ( there is a lot of flash on that site) http://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/ http:/www.sbs.com.au Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 06/06/2013, at 9:10 AM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Sorry about that: Combo Update File Size: 809.98 MB System Requirements http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1659 Delta Update 342.33MB System Requirements OS X Mountain Lion v10.8.3 http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1658 Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 06/06/2013, at 8:53 AM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote: The delta and combo links given refer to OS X Mountain Lion 10.8.3 update, not 10.8.4. The auto-update to 10.8.4 introduced a bug to my Macs: I will install the combo update when it becomes available. The bug? Mac One with 10.8.4 cannot access SBS website. Mac two with 10.8.3 was OK; when updated to 10.8.4 it could no longer access the SBS website. (I was part way through Ronni's SBS problem check list when I realised I was using 10.8.4 - - -.) Cheers Alan On 06/06/2013, at 6:35 AM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Apple has released the OS X Mountain Lion 10.8.4 update, along with Safari 6.0.5, fixing a number of lingering bugs that were missed by the 10.8.3 update back in March. The free update is available via the Mac App Store, with delta(540.46 MB — from 10.8.2) and combo (793.69 MB — from any version of 10.8) updaters now ready for download from the Apple Support Downloads site About the OS X Mountain Lion v10.8.4 Update http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5730 As with all updates backup your system before updating. Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines -
Re: OS X Mountain Lion v10.8.4 Update
On 06/06/2013, at 11:20 AM, John Thompson jet...@iprimus.com.au wrote: On another topic. What would be the benefit of upgrading my Mac Mini to the latest model, and if I do, which one would be best? I do like the Mac Mini which I have been using since the first one came out. I had a look at the 27 iMac a few days ago and was quite disappointed in that Apple had dropped the optical drive and Firewire. I upgraded to a Retina MacBook Pro last year, in the full knowledge and expectation of dealing with the loss of the optical drive and Firewire. When I bought it I threw in the Apple USB Portable DVD Player and the Thunderbolt to Firewire adaptor. I could count the number of times I have had to use either of those things on the fingers of one hand. I admit that I carry both of them wherever I go, but with the much greater occurrence these days of WiFi networks, wired networks, high capacity USB3 drives, the need for them is greatly reduced, and I find I'm really only using them when faced with legacy technology. I think you'll find the benefits of upgrading to a modern Mac Mini will far outweigh the perceived loss of of those technologies. Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer Perth, Western Australia Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948 Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Continuing disk problems
Ronni After playing with the wretched drive etc last night I have decided to give up on this drive. I was doing some very odd things last night and at one stage refused to talk to me altogether. I suspect the drive may be the problem so I will return it to the person who passed it onto me as excess to his needs. Many thanks for your input and help. Barry iMac 10,1 Intel Core 2 Duo 3.06 GHz 12GB RAM 1.0 TB HD OS X 10.7.5 On 06/06/2013, at 11:26 AM, Barry Sexstone wrote: Ronni Hope all goes well with your appointment. Box was and is now UNticket so I am effectively back to square one. Barry On 06/06/2013, at 11:19 AM, Ronda Brown wrote: No Barry, DON'T have a tick in this, I only asked IF you did. You want Ownership enabled for a bootable backup clone. Ignore ownership on this volume Checking it means to ignore. By default an external drive -- when it first gets attached to a system -- usually has this box checked. This is because Apple anticipated that a user would bring a drive to a different system, and -- since the files might be owned by a different user than the one who connected the drive -- they should make them accessible by default. Backups, on the other hand, are different. We're not trying to make the files accessible to foreign systems, we're trying to make them exactly the same as the source. Without ownership on*(unchecked), that's not possible to do. SuperDuper disables this when it does a clone anyway, so should not be a problem. I have to rush to a medical appointment now so won't be available for some time. Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 06/06/2013, at 10:38 AM, Barry Sexstone bjsexst...@netspace.net.au wrote: Hi Ronni Found it thanks. I have now ticked this , is this correct? Barry On 06/06/2013, at 10:16 AM, Ronda Brown wrote: Hi Barry, I sent my first reply on Monday (3 June) Select (highlight) your Seagate Drive icon on your Desktop Then - Go to File Get Info At the bottom of that window you will see Ignore ownership on this volume Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 06/06/2013, at 10:05 AM, Barry Sexstone bjsexst...@netspace.net.au wrote: Hi Ronni Thanks for the emails. For some reason I did not get your first one. The Seagate is formatted as you say GUID Partition Table and Mac OS Extended (Journaled). Disconnecting the drive and reconnecting it does allow the incremental to run. I am not sure where to find the ignore ownership box you refer to in your second email. I have look at the disk info by right clicking it on the desktop but the information box does not show this. Is the file you refer to the backup file? Info on the disk from utilities shows owners enabled yes, can turn owners off yes. Regards Barry On 06/06/2013, at 8:00 AM, Barry Sexstone wrote: iMac 10,1 Intel Core 2 Duo 3.06 GHz 12GB RAM 1.0 TB HD OS X 10.7.5 I notice my signature block showing my system set up was not appended to this, I don,t know why so I will give it here and also try to append it iMac 10.1 intel core2 Duo 3.06 GHz 12 GB RAM 1.0 TB HD OSX 10.7.5 Barry iMac 10,1 Intel Core 2 Duo 3.06 GHz 12GB RAM 1.0 TB HD OS X 10.7.5 On 06/06/2013, at 7:52 AM, Barry Sexstone wrote: I am still having problems with my Seagate 2TB external disk my and back up regime as I mentioned in my email of 3rd June. My usual method is to have Carbon Copy Cloner run an incremental backup daily. The initial backup runs OK but 24Hrs later the incremental backup does not run with an error message saying Could not find BU BU being the name I have assigned to the external disk. The disk then failed to eject when requested saying cannot eject BU as a program is using it I presume this was CCC still trying to find the disk. I managed to force eject the disk. I have done all the obvious things, reformatted, run repair disk etc and I noted that when I tried to reformat initially I had a could not Unmount message which I overcame by clicking on the Unmount button. I have tried running a Super Duper backup system and a similar problem occurred. The initial backup ran with no apparent problem but the incremental the next day failed with the message could not establish ownership of BU Can anyone spread any light on this problem or point me in a suitable investigative direction? Thanks Barry -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe -
Re: OS X Mountain Lion v10.8.4 Update
Just to put my bit in here ! I bought the External drive along with my new iMac last November. Now I realise that I plug it in about every 2 months. Great to own just in case, but not essential. I love video editing and went to HD videos a while back. Stream straight from iTunes to TV or plug a thumb drive into someone else's TV and the viewing is way better than a DVD. My daughter now has all the family videos I have made for her on a large capacity thumb drive that is permanently plugged into her TV. I just add new videos to it as required. On 07/06/2013, at 6:26 AM, John Thompson jet...@iprimus.com.au wrote: Thanks Susan. I suspected as much but have not looked too deeply into the configuration of the Mac Mini. I am not sure what we are supposed to do when it comes to things like making DVD's; just add another clunking piece of equipment to your desk I guess. So saying, I do like 10.8.4. It now works much faster and more at the rate we should expect. Boots up from cold in less than half the time. John Thompson On 06/06/2013, at 4:53 PM, Susan Hastings susanhasti...@me.com wrote: Hi, there has been no optical drive on the Mac Mini for the same period as with iMacs. The latest ones will have USB 3, but not Firewire. cheers, Susan. --- Susan Hastings Mobile: 0409 688 004 susanhasti...@mac.com On 06/06/2013, at 11:20 AM, John Thompson jet...@iprimus.com.au wrote: Downloaded the 10.8.4 Update package and did a manual install at a time suitable to me. Mac would not re-start automatically after the installation. Tried several times and ended up with the plain white screen. Physically powered the machine down and then manually re-started. All now works fine. Appears to be quite a bit zippier, or is that just my imagination? On another topic. What would be the benefit of upgrading my Mac Mini to the latest model, and if I do, which one would be best? I do like the Mac Mini which I have been using since the first one came out. I had a look at the 27 iMac a few days ago and was quite disappointed in that Apple had dropped the optical drive and Firewire. John Thompson WAMUG #861 Mac Mini 2.53 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo 4 GB 1067 MHz DDR3 Mac OS X 10.8.2 jet...@iprimus.com.au On 06/06/2013, at 10:59 AM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote: Hi Ronni A relief that the OS X update is not universally buggy! Just installed the combo update on both Mac One and Mac Two. A pity it included the Safari update. Still no access to the SBS website from either Mac. I will go throught all the settings check lists you have supplied after I do a complete power shut down and reset of my total equipment. Then a new thread if I have further cries for help - - -. Cheers Alan On 06/06/2013, at 10:24 AM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: The bug? Mac One with 10.8.4 cannot access SBS website. Mac two with 10.8.3 was OK; when updated to 10.8.4 it could no longer access the SBS website The update has not created any 'Bugs' problems for me. Safari v6.0.5 loads SBS website very fast ( there is a lot of flash on that site) http://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/ http:/www.sbs.com.au Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 06/06/2013, at 9:10 AM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Sorry about that: Combo Update File Size: 809.98 MB System Requirements http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1659 Delta Update 342.33MB System Requirements OS X Mountain Lion v10.8.3 http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1658 Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 06/06/2013, at 8:53 AM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote: The delta and combo links given refer to OS X Mountain Lion 10.8.3 update, not 10.8.4. The auto-update to 10.8.4 introduced a bug to my Macs: I will install the combo update when it becomes available. The bug? Mac One with 10.8.4 cannot access SBS website. Mac two with 10.8.3 was OK; when updated to 10.8.4 it could no longer access the SBS website. (I was part way through Ronni's SBS problem check list when I realised I was using 10.8.4 - - -.) Cheers Alan On 06/06/2013, at 6:35 AM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Apple has released the OS X Mountain Lion 10.8.4 update, along with Safari 6.0.5, fixing a number of lingering bugs that were missed by the 10.8.3 update back in March. The free update is available via the Mac App Store, with delta(540.46 MB — from 10.8.2) and combo (793.69 MB — from any version of 10.8) updaters now ready for download from the Apple Support Downloads site About the OS X Mountain Lion v10.8.4 Update http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5730 As with all updates backup your system before updating. Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe -
Re: Continuing disk problems
Hi Barry, First thanks for your concern with my medical appointment, I appreciate it. It didn't go all that well, but I am improving slowly. The specialist keeps telling me it is going to take a long time for my body to recover. Patience!!! How I HATE that word... Thanks for getting back Re the Seagate Drive, I have felt from the start that the drive is the problem. I have not had great success with Seagate external drives for some years. I use and recommend WD external drives. I prefer FireWire Thunderbolt connections for backups, but USB 3 is OK. Kind Regards, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 06/06/2013, at 11:26 AM, Barry Sexstone bjsexst...@netspace.net.au wrote: Ronni Hope all goes well with your appointment. Box was and is now UNticket so I am effectively back to square one. Barry On 06/06/2013, at 11:19 AM, Ronda Brown wrote: No Barry, DON'T have a tick in this, I only asked IF you did. You want Ownership enabled for a bootable backup clone. Ignore ownership on this volume Checking it means to ignore. By default an external drive -- when it first gets attached to a system -- usually has this box checked. This is because Apple anticipated that a user would bring a drive to a different system, and -- since the files might be owned by a different user than the one who connected the drive -- they should make them accessible by default. Backups, on the other hand, are different. We're not trying to make the files accessible to foreign systems, we're trying to make them exactly the same as the source. Without ownership on*(unchecked), that's not possible to do. SuperDuper disables this when it does a clone anyway, so should not be a problem. I have to rush to a medical appointment now so won't be available for some time. Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 06/06/2013, at 10:38 AM, Barry Sexstone bjsexst...@netspace.net.au wrote: Hi Ronni Found it thanks. I have now ticked this , is this correct? Barry On 06/06/2013, at 10:16 AM, Ronda Brown wrote: Hi Barry, I sent my first reply on Monday (3 June) Select (highlight) your Seagate Drive icon on your Desktop Then - Go to File Get Info At the bottom of that window you will see Ignore ownership on this volume Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 06/06/2013, at 10:05 AM, Barry Sexstone bjsexst...@netspace.net.au wrote: Hi Ronni Thanks for the emails. For some reason I did not get your first one. The Seagate is formatted as you say GUID Partition Table and Mac OS Extended (Journaled). Disconnecting the drive and reconnecting it does allow the incremental to run. I am not sure where to find the ignore ownership box you refer to in your second email. I have look at the disk info by right clicking it on the desktop but the information box does not show this. Is the file you refer to the backup file? Info on the disk from utilities shows owners enabled yes, can turn owners off yes. Regards Barry On 06/06/2013, at 8:00 AM, Barry Sexstone wrote: iMac 10,1 Intel Core 2 Duo 3.06 GHz 12GB RAM 1.0 TB HD OS X 10.7.5 I notice my signature block showing my system set up was not appended to this, I don,t know why so I will give it here and also try to append it iMac 10.1 intel core2 Duo 3.06 GHz 12 GB RAM 1.0 TB HD OSX 10.7.5 Barry iMac 10,1 Intel Core 2 Duo 3.06 GHz 12GB RAM 1.0 TB HD OS X 10.7.5 On 06/06/2013, at 7:52 AM, Barry Sexstone wrote: I am still having problems with my Seagate 2TB external disk my and back up regime as I mentioned in my email of 3rd June. My usual method is to have Carbon Copy Cloner run an incremental backup daily. The initial backup runs OK but 24Hrs later the incremental backup does not run with an error message saying Could not find BU BU being the name I have assigned to the external disk. The disk then failed to eject when requested saying cannot eject BU as a program is using it I presume this was CCC still trying to find the disk. I managed to force eject the disk. I have done all the obvious things, reformatted, run repair disk etc and I noted that when I tried to reformat initially I had a could not Unmount message which I overcame by clicking on the Unmount button. I have tried running a Super Duper backup system and a similar problem occurred. The initial backup ran with no apparent problem but the incremental the next day failed with the message could not establish ownership of BU Can anyone spread any light on this problem or point me in a suitable investigative direction? Thanks Barry -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: OS X Mountain Lion v10.8.4 Update
Or I've been selling the more popular Samsung external burner. It's USB3 (over Apple's USB2) and is actually a bit cheaper at $69. A great little unit they are too. Work very well. (And my wholesaler now has a USB2 Samsung external BluRay burner/player for $149 which I've been testing. Works great for getting BluRay to the Mac!) Kind regards Daniel Sent from my iPhone 5 --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel AT macwizardry.com.au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Apple** On 07/06/2013, at 6:38 AM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi John, You need to purchase Apple USB SuperDrive. They are quite small and work really well. I purchased one for my Son-n-Law when I did the transfer and setup of his new iMac. They are only $89AU http://store.apple.com/au/product/MD564ZM/A/apple-usb-superdrive?afid=p219%7CGOAUcid=AOS-AU-KWG Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 07/06/2013, at 6:26 AM, John Thompson jet...@iprimus.com.au wrote: Thanks Susan. I suspected as much but have not looked too deeply into the configuration of the Mac Mini. I am not sure what we are supposed to do when it comes to things like making DVD's; just add another clunking piece of equipment to your desk I guess. So saying, I do like 10.8.4. It now works much faster and more at the rate we should expect. Boots up from cold in less than half the time. John Thompson On 06/06/2013, at 4:53 PM, Susan Hastings susanhasti...@me.com wrote: Hi, there has been no optical drive on the Mac Mini for the same period as with iMacs. The latest ones will have USB 3, but not Firewire. cheers, Susan. --- Susan Hastings Mobile: 0409 688 004 susanhasti...@mac.com On 06/06/2013, at 11:20 AM, John Thompson jet...@iprimus.com.au wrote: Downloaded the 10.8.4 Update package and did a manual install at a time suitable to me. Mac would not re-start automatically after the installation. Tried several times and ended up with the plain white screen. Physically powered the machine down and then manually re-started. All now works fine. Appears to be quite a bit zippier, or is that just my imagination? On another topic. What would be the benefit of upgrading my Mac Mini to the latest model, and if I do, which one would be best? I do like the Mac Mini which I have been using since the first one came out. I had a look at the 27 iMac a few days ago and was quite disappointed in that Apple had dropped the optical drive and Firewire. John Thompson WAMUG #861 Mac Mini 2.53 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo 4 GB 1067 MHz DDR3 Mac OS X 10.8.2 jet...@iprimus.com.au On 06/06/2013, at 10:59 AM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote: Hi Ronni A relief that the OS X update is not universally buggy! Just installed the combo update on both Mac One and Mac Two. A pity it included the Safari update. Still no access to the SBS website from either Mac. I will go throught all the settings check lists you have supplied after I do a complete power shut down and reset of my total equipment. Then a new thread if I have further cries for help - - -. Cheers Alan On 06/06/2013, at 10:24 AM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: The bug? Mac One with 10.8.4 cannot access SBS website. Mac two with 10.8.3 was OK; when updated to 10.8.4 it could no longer access the SBS website The update has not created any 'Bugs' problems for me. Safari v6.0.5 loads SBS website very fast ( there is a lot of flash on that site) http://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/ http:/www.sbs.com.au Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 06/06/2013, at 9:10 AM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Sorry about that: Combo Update • File Size: 809.98 MB System Requirements http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1659 Delta Update 342.33MB System Requirements OS X Mountain Lion v10.8.3 http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1658 Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 06/06/2013, at 8:53 AM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote: The delta and combo links given refer to OS X Mountain Lion 10.8.3 update, not 10.8.4. The auto-update to 10.8.4 introduced a bug to my Macs: I will install the combo update when it becomes available. The bug? Mac One with 10.8.4 cannot access SBS website. Mac two with 10.8.3 was OK; when updated to 10.8.4 it could no longer access the SBS website. (I was part way through Ronni's SBS problem check list when I realised I was using 10.8.4 - - -.) Cheers Alan On 06/06/2013, at 6:35 AM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Apple has released the OS X Mountain Lion 10.8.4 update, along with Safari 6.0.5, fixing a number of lingering bugs that were missed by the 10.8.3 update back in March. The free update is available via the Mac App Store, with delta(540.46 MB — from 10.8.2) and combo (793.69 MB — from any version of 10.8) updaters now ready for download from the Apple Support Downloads site
