TEST PLEASE IGNORE!

[Ronda Brown]

TEST PLEASE IGNORE!

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Security Update 2018-001

[Michael Hawkins]

Security update 2018-001 was installed on my MacBook Pro on the 3rd May. The 
computer has been turned off and started a number of times since then, but 
despite that I keep receiving a mesage that updates are available. Each 
supposed update is identified as being Security update 2018-001.

One thing I noticed after the update was finally installed was that the icon in 
the Dock for Desktop Folders ahs ben replaced by a large ? symbol (as in 
question mark symbol). When the cursor is hovered over the ? symbole, the label 
“Desktop Folders” appears. No folders appear though, when I click on the ? 
symbol.

Other than that, I have not had any trouble using the computer, but I wonder 
why the message that an update is available keeps getting sent.

High Sierra version 10.13.4
MacBook Pro (17 inch late 2011, solid state hard drive)

Thank you

Michael Hawkins
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Re: MacBook failing or not?

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Peter,

Have you run Apple Hardware Test (AHT) on Tim’s MacBook Pro?

Apple Hardware Test (AHT) contains a suite of diagnostics that test the 
hardware of your Mac.
After isolating an issue on your Mac to a probable hardware issue, you can use 
Apple Hardware Test to help determine which hardware component might be causing 
the issue.
.How to use Apple Hardware Test
Disconnect all external devices except keyboard, mouse, display, Ethernet 
connection (if applicable), and connection to AC power. Apple Hardware Test 
might display an error message if you don't disconnect all other devices. 
Make sure that your Mac is on a hard, flat, stable, well-ventilated work 
surface.
Shut down your Mac.
Turn on your Mac, then immediately press and hold the D key on your keyboard. 
Keep holding the D key until you see the Apple Hardware Test icon:
Select your language and click the right arrow. If you aren't using a mouse, 
you can use the up and down arrows to select a language, then press the Return 
key.
To begin testing, click the Test button, press T, or press Return. Optionally 
select "Perform extended testing" before beginning the test. This performs a 
more thorough test that takes longer to complete.
When the test is complete, review your test results in the lower-right section 
of the window.
To quit Apple Hardware Test, click Restart or Shut Down at the bottom of the 
window.
https://support.apple.com/en-au/HT201257

Regards,
Ronni

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> On 20 May 2018, at 7:17 pm, Peter Crisp  wrote:
> 
> HI ROnni, thanks for that, but the problem i have is that Tim’s MBP is 
> completely unresponsive so I cannot even get into it to disable the SMC Fan 
> control he installed to then create a backup with that not in place. So I am 
> stuck with the backup I have.  I really am unsire of the next step, I will 
> persevere with the current MBP now but I think I am wasting my time. All that 
> happens is the screen remains black and the fan starts up, nothing to show. I 
> think it is rooted. Maybe there is a command I can hold upon hitting the 
> start button but I try “Shift” and “Command R” and nothing really results 
> from it.
> 
> Regards
> 
> 
> Pete
> 
>> On 20 May 2018, at 6:52 pm, Ronda Brown  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Peter,
>> I would be careful about restoring from backup until you can completely 
>> uninstall the smcFanControl then do a backup & restore from the new backup.
>> 
>> Apple and we consultants don’t recommend users to control the fan speed by 
>> any 3rd party utility, it’s better to let your Mac set the fan speed as it 
>> wants. smcFanControl is not a necessary app for your Mac.
>> It installs many files throughout the system which need to be deleted as 
>> well as the app!
>> If you think you just drag smcFanControl to the trash & think removal is 
>> complete, then you’re wrong. That won’t remove the supportive files, cache 
>> files & other associated items it created during the setup and daily usage. 
>> To thoroughly ‘Delete smcFanControl, it is necessary to delete the remaining 
>> components scattered around the system.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Ronni
>> 
>> Sent from Ronni's iPhone 7 Plus
>> 
>>> On 20 May 2018, at 5:56 pm, Peter Crisp  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi ROnni, yes I have just got back from Gin Gin I had to collect one son 
>>> from Coolup as well so lots of driving today from Mandurah.
>>> 
>>> I am getting you WAMUG mails from WAMUG and I also do see them at the link 
>>> you sent too. Not sure what’s going on your end but it all looks ok from 
>>> the ‘outside’. 
>>> 
>>> I’ve just got back home now so James is rerunning the second half for me 
>>> but I was listening on the radio and I heard Darling was having a cracker.
>>> 
>>> I am looking further into Tims MBP tponoight too, I am not hopeful. I think 
>>> I will be buying another SSD to replace and then restore from backup. But 
>>> fingers crossed. He needs it for school so I gotta do it quickly. I think 
>>> tonight it wont be sorted.
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Pete
>>> 
 On 20 May 2018, at 5:50 pm, Ronda Brown  wrote:
 
 Hi Peter,
 
 That was a great game to watch the Eagles are flying high!
 Darling was absolutely brilliant... I thought his kicking leg would fall 
 off in the final quarter! 
 The whole team played together, very slick and accurate passing either by 
 hand or foot.
 A very good result and well deserved.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 P.S I don’t know what has happened to WAMUG mailing list as I’m not 
 receiving any messages... even my replies to you regarding ‘MacBook 
 failing or not?.
 The archives show my messages, so you can check there at this link
 https://www.mail-archive.com/wamug@wamug.org.au/
 
 
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Re: GREAT GAME EAGLES!

[Peter Crisp]

Hi Ronni, I removed the HDD from Tim’s MBP and using the SATA adapter connected 
it to Joannes MBP. It opened fined, the folder structure as an externally 
connected drive looked completely as expected. I did locate the SMC app in the 
Downloads folder and was able to succesfully trash it. Upon refitting to Tim’s 
MBP I get the same behaviour which makes me think the problem is with the MBP 
chassis/hardware somewhere and not the HDD. I am puzzled where to now. If I 
simply replace the HDD, with this information it seems unlikely that that would 
actually fix the problem. 

Buying a replacement MBP and restoring from the backup would be plagued by the 
SMC installation in the backup and there being no apparent way to get his MBP 
to start up and be able to get into the OSX to disable the SMC fan controller. 
Buying a replacement SSD for his MBP and copying over also would not seem to be 
a solution given the fact it looks fine when connected as an external disc. 

Is there some other sort of way I could assess the HDD to confirm it’s status 
or even the MBP hardware as well?

Regards


Pete

> On 20 May 2018, at 7:17 pm, Peter Crisp  wrote:
> 
> HI ROnni, thanks for that, but the problem i have is that Tim’s MBP is 
> completely unresponsive so I cannot even get into it to disable the SMC Fan 
> control he installed to then create a backup with that not in place. So I am 
> stuck with the backup I have.  I really am unsire of the next step, I will 
> persevere with the current MBP now but I think I am wasting my time. All that 
> happens is the screen remains black and the fan starts up, nothing to show. I 
> think it is rooted. Maybe there is a command I can hold upon hitting the 
> start button but I try “Shift” and “Command R” and nothing really results 
> from it.
> 
> Regards
> 
> 
> Pete
> 
>> On 20 May 2018, at 6:52 pm, Ronda Brown  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Peter,
>> I would be careful about restoring from backup until you can completely 
>> uninstall the smcFanControl then do a backup & restore from the new backup.
>> 
>> Apple and we consultants don’t recommend users to control the fan speed by 
>> any 3rd party utility, it’s better to let your Mac set the fan speed as it 
>> wants. smcFanControl is not a necessary app for your Mac.
>> It installs many files throughout the system which need to be deleted as 
>> well as the app!
>> If you think you just drag smcFanControl to the trash & think removal is 
>> complete, then you’re wrong. That won’t remove the supportive files, cache 
>> files & other associated items it created during the setup and daily usage. 
>> To thoroughly ‘Delete smcFanControl, it is necessary to delete the remaining 
>> components scattered around the system.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Ronni
>> 
>> Sent from Ronni's iPhone 7 Plus
>> 
>>> On 20 May 2018, at 5:56 pm, Peter Crisp  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi ROnni, yes I have just got back from Gin Gin I had to collect one son 
>>> from Coolup as well so lots of driving today from Mandurah.
>>> 
>>> I am getting you WAMUG mails from WAMUG and I also do see them at the link 
>>> you sent too. Not sure what’s going on your end but it all looks ok from 
>>> the ‘outside’. 
>>> 
>>> I’ve just got back home now so James is rerunning the second half for me 
>>> but I was listening on the radio and I heard Darling was having a cracker.
>>> 
>>> I am looking further into Tims MBP tponoight too, I am not hopeful. I think 
>>> I will be buying another SSD to replace and then restore from backup. But 
>>> fingers crossed. He needs it for school so I gotta do it quickly. I think 
>>> tonight it wont be sorted.
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Pete
>>> 
 On 20 May 2018, at 5:50 pm, Ronda Brown  wrote:
 
 Hi Peter,
 
 That was a great game to watch the Eagles are flying high!
 Darling was absolutely brilliant... I thought his kicking leg would fall 
 off in the final quarter! 
 The whole team played together, very slick and accurate passing either by 
 hand or foot.
 A very good result and well deserved.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 P.S I don’t know what has happened to WAMUG mailing list as I’m not 
 receiving any messages... even my replies to you regarding ‘MacBook 
 failing or not?.
 The archives show my messages, so you can check there at this link
 https://www.mail-archive.com/wamug@wamug.org.au/
 
 
  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
 
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