Re: System migration to new computer

[Neil Houghton]

Hi Alan,

 

 

So, I understand that you are not able to use direct Target mode without 
purchasing a suitable adaptor or cable to connect the different Thunderbolt 
ports. (As you are probably aware, the Thunderbolt 3 port is physically the 
same as the new USB C connector.)

 

 

You do have another option to use Migration assistant from your actual current 
system/setup rather than the Time machine backup – provided you have a suitable 
available Hard drive – eg if you have a new HD earmarked as the new TM drive 
for the new computer.

Assuming that you have the requisite cable to connect the clean HD to both 
computers – clone the old computer to the new HD, connect the HD to the new 
computer and use it as the source for the migration. Once completed, of course, 
you could then erase it and use it as your new TM drive.

 

Of course, this approach may not be desirable/appropriate for you or you might 
just prefer to use your TM backup – I just throw it out there as a possible 
option.

 

Hope it all goes smoothly.

 

 

Cheers

 

 

Neil

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From:  on behalf of Alan Smith 

Reply-To: WAMUG 
Date: Thursday, 09 May 2019 at 08:08
To: WAMUG 
Subject: Re: System migration to new computer

 

Hi Neil

 

Just to clarify points about system migration.  My understanding from reading, 
not practical experience, is that direct target mode will not work.  Macbook 
Air is mid 2012 model with Thunderbolt 1 ports and no ethernet.  Mac Mini is 
2018 model with Thunderbolt 3 ports plus ethernet.  Time Capsule has ethernet 
ports.  Apple sell a Thunderbolt 3 to Thunderbolt 2 adapter.  Simple choice - 
use the Time Machine backup via ethernet.

 

The MBA OS is latest Mojave.  Assumption is that the Mac Mini will have version 
1 of Mojave OS.

 

Given the urgency of getting the system migrated, the MBA has not been fully 
prepared with getting everything up to date and ancient apps deleted. It 
probably has legacy stuff and file structures from a series of Mac migrations 
over the years.  A complete clean install would be very nice, but b.i.l. does 
not have the time for this.

 

Your input has been very valuable.  Not least to clarify the problems and 
options. I will be visiting brother in law later this morning when we can 
finalise plans and perhaps start the migration process.

 

Cheers

Alan

 

 

 

On 8 May 2019, at 9:58 pm, Neil Houghton  wrote:

 

Hi Alan,

 

Hmmm - not really what I have found. Obviously you cannot just clone the HD 
from one machine to a different computer model/vintage as many configuration 
files/systems are different. However, migration assistant allows you to select 
what you want to migrate anyway. 

 

At different times/scenarios I have sometimes migrated almost everything and 
sometimes opted for a clean system install and then manual installation of apps 
–among other factors, it tends to depend on how well the old system was running 
and/or whether I wanted to re-organise my filing organisation.

 

You do not say what OS you are running on the old and on the new computers – 
certainly, for me, jumping from OSX 10.6 direct to OSX 10.11 meant that many 
applications required updating and, for example, moving from Office 2004 to 
Office 365 (Office 2016) had me glad that I still had a bootable  SL disc and 
could download and run Office 2011 which was a big help in the transition.

 

Generally, I would say, the simplest/easiest migrations for me have been 
booting the old machine into target disk mode and then running migration 
assistant – but there have certainly been times when I chose another route.

 

 

Others may have their own opinions as to the best methods.

 

 

HTH

 

 

Cheers

 

 

 

Neil

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Email: n...@possumology.com

 

 

From:  on behalf of Alan Smith 

Reply-To: WAMUG 
Date: Wednesday, 08 May 2019 at 16:46
To: WAMUG 
Subject: Re: System migration to new computer

 

Hi Neil

 

Good to read about your setup and rationale for backups. And advice about other 
actions. Most Apple KB and help files only explain the simple one computer 
scenario.

 

You questioned why a direct mac to mac migration was not first choice. My 
favourite on-line Mac expert (Howard Oakley) looks at various parameters of the 
two macs involved in migration. He points out the old mac may have a newer 
macOS version than the new mac and will probably fail the initial Migration 
attempt. A move from an old iMac to a new iMac is relatively simple as there is 
little “distance" between them.  But there is a big distance between a MacBook 
Air and a Mac mini. He comments on five actual migration methods.  Here are the 
first three: Direct mac to mac is best if similar models and hardware are on 
each. Time Machine is first choice with older systems and more different 
models. An external disk with clone of 

Re: Something I didn't buy

[Neil Houghton]

Hi Pat,

I know this has been covered before but probably bears repeating:

When Peter says check the sending address - you need to actually examine the 
headers in the message source - it is very easy to just "SPOOF" the "From" 
address to match any address. This is a common spamming technique to make 
people think that SPAM is genuine.

Often on mailing lists I see warnings to people that their email account has 
been hacked just because SPAM has been sent to the list with a real member's 
"From" address. In most cases it does not mean their email account has been 
hacked, it just means that the Spammer spoofed a member's from address to be 
able to post to a member-only list.

Examining the message source code is also an easy way to see where links in the 
email actually end up - often the link that looks to be an Apple.com link 
actually goes to an obviously false domain - but sometimes more sophisticated 
operators even register domain name that look authentic but do not belong to 
the actual company being imitated.

I know Peter is well aware of this, as are most WAMUG members - it has often 
been discussed before - but I still find people being caught out by this - so 
possible worth repeating.


Cheers


Neil
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-Original Message-
From:  on behalf of Peter 
Hinchliffe 
Reply-To: WAMUG 
Date: Friday, 10 May 2019 at 07:57
To: WAMUG 
Subject: Re: Something I didn't buy



> On 9 May 2019, at 9:42 pm, Pat  wrote:
> 
> I received an email today which may or may not have come from Apple. It 
says, “Your Apple Subscription Receipt” (to Netflix). But, I did not order a 
subscription. I think it is probably a scam, although it looks very authentic. 
One anomaly is that where it says ‘you can cancel a Subscription at any time: 
Cancel/Refund Subscription’  there is no URL.
> 
> The email did not say ‘No Reply’, so I did reply, but it bounced.
> 
> What recourse do I have?
> 

1. Always, always, ALWAYS make it your first order of business to check the 
sending address of the email. If it has genuinely come from Apple, the sending 
address will end in .apple.com. If its some variant of .apple.xxx.com, or 
something else that doesn’t evem contain the word “apple”, you can be sure it 
didn’t come from anyone at Apple. Likewise, a genuine email from Netflix will 
end in .netflix.com, not some variant of .netflix.xxx.com. You can check the 
sending address byt rolling over the address at the very top of the email and 
clicking on the little disclosure trinagle that appears (assuming you’re using 
Mail). 

2. Never, never, NEVER reply to suspicious emails. It’s just inviting a ton 
of trouble. It confirms that your email address is real, inviting a potential 
flood of spam from the same source or others.

Kind regards,

Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
Perth, Western Australia
Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948

Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to.

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Re: Something I didn't buy

[petercrisp]

Yes, I concur with Peter (H)'s advice there. You do not want to fall
for the bait of replying to something the slightest bit dodgy looking.
My wife who is very disciplined in reviewing daily all credit card
transactions on the banking app recently noted 5 transactions in the
space of 24 hours. Chronologically > $0.99, $0.99, $67.00, $154.00,
$167.00. They were ALL transactions from Apple on the credit card
statement. Upon noting this, she immediately called the bank to report
and shut down the credit card which had clearly been compromised. The
$0.99 transactions were the giveaway "test" transactions by the
perpetrator as a means to test the card for being able to be hit with
dodgy transactions. All costs were reimbursed and a new physical card
issued. Fortunately through all of this, Apple Pay continues to
function with no discontinuity, so is a good thing to have set up as a
fallback should you ever find yourself in this position of reluctance
to cancel your card, you can still buy stuff over the counter. 

Regards
Pete.
Go Eagles! and Pies!

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Cc:
Sent:Fri, 10 May 2019 07:57:38 +0800
Subject:Re: Something I didn't buy

 > On 9 May 2019, at 9:42 pm, Pat  wrote:
 > 
 > I received an email today which may or may not have come from
Apple. It says, “Your Apple Subscription Receipt” (to Netflix).
But, I did not order a subscription. I think it is probably a scam,
although it looks very authentic. One anomaly is that where it says
‘you can cancel a Subscription at any time: Cancel/Refund
Subscription’ there is no URL.
 > 
 > The email did not say ‘No Reply’, so I did reply, but it
bounced.
 > 
 > What recourse do I have?
 > 

 1. Always, always, ALWAYS make it your first order of business to
check the sending address of the email. If it has genuinely come from
Apple, the sending address will end in .apple.com. If its some variant
of .apple.xxx.com, or something else that doesn’t evem contain the
word “apple”, you can be sure it didn’t come from anyone at
Apple. Likewise, a genuine email from Netflix will end in
.netflix.com, not some variant of .netflix.xxx.com. You can check the
sending address byt rolling over the address at the very top of the
email and clicking on the little disclosure trinagle that appears
(assuming you’re using Mail). 

 2. Never, never, NEVER reply to suspicious emails. It’s just
inviting a ton of trouble. It confirms that your email address is
real, inviting a potential flood of spam from the same source or
others.

 Kind regards,

 Peter Hinchliffe Apwin Computer Services
 FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
 Perth, Western Australia
 Phone (618) 9332 6482 Mob 0403 046 948
 
 Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to.

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Re: Something I didn't buy

[Peter Hinchliffe]

> On 9 May 2019, at 9:42 pm, Pat  wrote:
> 
> I received an email today which may or may not have come from Apple. It says, 
> “Your Apple Subscription Receipt” (to Netflix). But, I did not order a 
> subscription. I think it is probably a scam, although it looks very 
> authentic. One anomaly is that where it says ‘you can cancel a Subscription 
> at any time: Cancel/Refund Subscription’  there is no URL.
> 
> The email did not say ‘No Reply’, so I did reply, but it bounced.
> 
> What recourse do I have?
> 

1. Always, always, ALWAYS make it your first order of business to check the 
sending address of the email. If it has genuinely come from Apple, the sending 
address will end in .apple.com. If its some variant of .apple.xxx.com, or 
something else that doesn’t evem contain the word “apple”, you can be sure it 
didn’t come from anyone at Apple. Likewise, a genuine email from Netflix will 
end in .netflix.com, not some variant of .netflix.xxx.com. You can check the 
sending address byt rolling over the address at the very top of the email and 
clicking on the little disclosure trinagle that appears (assuming you’re using 
Mail). 

2. Never, never, NEVER reply to suspicious emails. It’s just inviting a ton of 
trouble. It confirms that your email address is real, inviting a potential 
flood of spam from the same source or others.

Kind regards,

Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
Perth, Western Australia
Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948

Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to.

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Re: Something I didn't buy

[Philippe Chaperon]

Hi Pat, 

The first thing I would do, in such a case, is to check my bank account to 
ensure that no money was taken out without your permission, which you most 
probably have done. 

The receipts I get from Apple, music and application purchases and my 
subscription to iCloud, are in the form of a Tax Invoice showing my Apple ID - 
my registered email with Apple, Billed To - my Credit Card last four digits, my 
names in full and my home address, Order ID- a ten character string of letters 
and numbers, Document No. - a twelve digits string of numbers. 

The Tax Invoice has many links to Apple’s website etc. 

So, it would appear, if no funds were taken from your bank account, that this 
is some form of scam. Others could confirm if your deduction and mine are 
correct. 

Best Regards & good night, 

Philippe C. 

On 9 May 2019, at 9:42 pm, Pat  wrote:

I received an email today which may or may not have come from Apple. It says, 
“Your Apple Subscription Receipt” (to Netflix). But, I did not order a 
subscription. I think it is probably a scam, although it looks very authentic. 
One anomaly is that where it says ‘you can cancel a Subscription at any time: 
Cancel/Refund Subscription’  there is no URL.

The email did not say ‘No Reply’, so I did reply, but it bounced.

What recourse do I have?

Cheers,
Pat
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Something I didn't buy

[Pat]

I received an email today which may or may not have come from Apple. It says, 
“Your Apple Subscription Receipt” (to Netflix). But, I did not order a 
subscription. I think it is probably a scam, although it looks very authentic. 
One anomaly is that where it says ‘you can cancel a Subscription at any time: 
Cancel/Refund Subscription’  there is no URL.

The email did not say ‘No Reply’, so I did reply, but it bounced.

What recourse do I have?

Cheers,
Pat
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