Re: Proposed name change to Apple Users WA

2012-09-17 Thread Carlo Margio
I would just like to put out this quick response. Due to a bout of the flu and 
some coordinated crises in other areas  I have had to ration my time. First up 
I will say that I will recommend at the next committee meeting that we don't go 
ahead with the name change vote as apart from a few supporters there has been 
quite vocal opposition. Nevertheless as promised I will state my reasons for 
originally supporting the proposal.

To me it is patently obvious that the new name is superior but apparently views 
on this differ. A poster that reads Apple Users WA Meeting has already selected 
those who have an interest in the topic. Those that choose to read on will be 
seeking information as to how to get to the meeting, those not interested (say 
Android users) will know not to waste their time. The organisations description 
would be its name so nothing further needs to be remembered. Compare this to a 
poster that reads WA Mac Users Group Meeting, or WA Macintosh Users Group 
Meeting, or more correctly the full name Western Australian Macintosh Users 
Group Meeting. Most persons would not know what the poster was about, but worse 
it does not describe what our group actually does because it does not cover the 
iPhone, the iPad, Apple TV and many of the more innovative and recent Apple 
products. Much as I love the Macintosh and spend a great deal of my time on one 
it now accounts for only about 15% of the Apple 
 devices sold -- I don't have exact numbers on hand. So many Apple users do not 
own a Macintosh.

Some quick responses to post (from memory):

Someone quipped If it ain't broke don't fix it -- a recent meeting had from 
memory about 8 attendees 6 of whom where committee members. The mailing list is 
far from broken by the meetings are. Certain of us have put a lot of effort 
into presentation that a being given to a very small group.

Shouldn't it be WA Apple Users -- Yes I would prefer that to WAMUG but to my 
mind Apple Users WA is better because it puts the purpose of the organisation 
first then qualifies it with the WA

Will Apple allow this -- that we don't know. Trying the name is one way to find 
out. The fact that we are a users group may mean that we will be OK. The 
Queensland based Apple-Q users group has passed scrutiny and our current name 
already has the Apple registered "Macintosh" is its name.

What will this cost please publish the books -- I have not done a cost benefit 
analysis but as a non profit group we do not aim to make a profit. All monies 
spent further our cause of helping Apple Users and promoting Apple use. I do 
not off the top of my head know the current state of the books but a personal 
communication to the treasurer would likely get that. Historically a 
treasurer's report is given at the general meeting. If you wish to change this 
please move a motion to that extent.

The business saying, become the company that would put you out of business may 
apply here. We are currently an extremely effective mail list but have very 
little attendance at the meetings. So for now the name change will not go 
ahead.  Will another group appear and make us irrelevant. 

Regards,
Carlo

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On 17/09/2012, at 9:19 AM, Ronda Brown  wrote:

> Hi Carlo,
> 
> I understand you are busy but you mentioned you would post comment over the 
> week-end. 
> I would appreciate a response to my concerns and queries, that I posted on 
> 12/09/2012.
> 
> I'll itemise my three main concerns / questions that have not been responded 
> to below. My original email is also included.
> 
> 1. How does Apple itself feel about this name change, given that it wasn't 
> that long ago (3-4 years I think) that they "took back" AppleCentre names 
> from the Resellers? Are we (as WAMUG) allowed now to use "Apple Users"? 
> Or is that something they would take back down the track as well?
> 
> 2. The Committee mention a marketing push in the original post. 
> Has a marketing push been tried currently with WAMUG as it stands to date?
> 
> Couldn't this be tried as another (much easier) way to try and recruit more 
> members. Surely just advertising WAMUG - come along to learn all about and 
> gain extensive knowledge and help for all things Apple - iPhone, iPad, 
> AppleTV. New members welcome to the monthly meetings. Or something along that 
> theme? 
> 
> Any marketing material would still just refer to "the whole range of Apple 
> products and services" that you're trying to target. 
> And those older, longer (or lost) members who still remember WAMUG, it may be 
> enough of a "Refresh" to dig them out of the woodwork. 
> As mentioned in my first email, I still get a lot of people that email me

Re: Apple event roundup - prices!

2012-09-14 Thread Carlo Margio
Hi Gary,

My guess is that you are comparing the price of a phone with a contract in the 
US to the price of buying the phone outright in Australia.

Regards,
Carlo

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On 14/09/2012, at 6:23 PM, gdorn  wrote:

> I've noted the price difference of the iphone 5 between USA and Australia and 
> others on the Apple stores
> 
> 
>   iphone 5
> lightning adaptor
> 
> USA $199  = $175  AU  
> $29 US  = $25 AU
> OZ $799   = $799 AU   
> $35 AU  = $35 AU
> S $948 (singapore?)  = $603 AU$42 SGD 
> = $32 AU
> HK $5588  = 630 $AU   
> $238 HKD= $26 AU
> 
> Anyone got any thoughts an why there is such a price difference for the phone 
> when the accessories are fairly evenly/similarly priced?
> 
> Aren't these things made in Singapore or Taiwan or somewhere around SE Asia.
> 
> chow
> Gary Dorn
> 
> 
> 
> On 13/09/2012, at 2:41 AM, Daniel Kerr wrote:
> 
>> Lots of interesting specs on iDevices and sales,...
>> 
>> New iPhone 5
>> 7.6mm thin (18% thinner). Made entirely of glass and aluminium. 326ppi 
>> Retina Display, 4" 1136x640 resolution. Same width, but taller.
>> Still designed to be used with one hand,…
>> "Ultrafast Wireless" - Telstra, Optus and Virgin mentioned for faster 
>> network access,…
>> A6 processor (2x faster CPU and 2x graphics compared to A5). 22% smaller and 
>> more energy efficient ;o)
>> Battery life better then the iPhone 4s. Similar camera as 4s but smaller. 
>> (And a few more features,…Sapphire crystal lens cover.). Panorama photos. 
>> 1080p HD video, takes photos while recording.
>> Three microphones- front, bottom and back. (better voice recognition and 
>> noise cancelation).
>> New Dock connector - called Lightning. (changed from the over 9 year 
>> previous adapter!). Plugs in either way, all digital, 80% smaller. Can get 
>> an adapter for older devices until they get updated from third party 
>> wholesalers.
>> (And lol to their Thunder and Lightning comment,..lol)
>> Pricing is (about) the same - AUD I think is $799,$899 and $999 (16GB, 32GB 
>> and 64GB). Black and white colour choices again.
>> 
>> Pre order on the 21st here in Australia (i.e. next Friday)
>> 
>> 
>> More demo's of iOS6. Maps, full screen Safari (iCloud tabs), enhancements to 
>> Mail, Passbook, Shared Photo stream, Updated Siri
>> September 19th for iOS6 (for iPhone 4, iPhone 4S, 3GS, new iPad, iPad2 and 
>> iPod touch.
>> 
>> Changes to iTunes,… coming with iOS6 on Sept 19th. New look iTunes interface 
>> (similar to iOS one), and more Facebook and Twitter integration and "likes". 
>> New "mini player", with search and managing playlists. iCloud integration.
>> new iTunes late October.
>> 
>> iPod. New iPod nano. larger display, thinner, lighter, Lightning charger. 
>> 2.5" touch display. 7 colours. FM tuner. Look at photos and videos too. 
>> Bluetooth.
>> iPod Touch - thinner, lighter.4" display, A5 processor. (faster), New camera 
>> also. 1080p video and 720p FaceTime HD Camera on front. Bluetooth, Wireless, 
>> Airplay mirroring. Siri supported. 5 colours (can attach a strap to it as 
>> well now - colour matched also,..lol)
>> Available in October.
>> 
>> New earbuds - called EarPods. (3 years in design). - a directed speaker port 
>> that points forward into your ear canal. port in the back for mid-tones, 
>> port in the stem and the pain port. interesting,….
>> Shipping from today. (Will be included with the iPod touch, iPod nano and 
>> iPhone 5).
>> 
>> Pricing will be up soon I'm sure,…..
>> 
>> I'm sure more will be up on apple.com/au soon.
>> 
>> Enjoy!
>> 
>> Kind regards
>> Daniel
>> ---
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>> MacWizardry
>> 
>> Phone: 0414 795 960
>> Email: 
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Re: Apple event roundup

2012-09-12 Thread Carlo Margio
Fantastic! The wait was worth it.

Regards,
Carlo

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On 13/09/2012, at 7:18 AM, Martin Hill  wrote:

> It is indeed good to see that LTE 4G high speed networking is supported in 
> Australia on Telstra, Optus and Virgin, but surprising to see that GPS 
> turn-by-turn navigation is not.  
> 
> Looks like we'll have to rely on the directions feature in the new Maps app 
> (pretty much the same as we have in the old Maps app) until Apple adds 
> Australia to the list of supported countries. 
> 
> -Mart
> 
> Martin HILL
> iLecture Systems Team leader | Curtin Teaching & Learning
> 
> Curtin University
> Tel | +61 8 9266 3101 
> Mobile | 0401 103 194
> Email | m.b.h...@curtin.edu.au 
> Web | ilectures.curtin.edu.au
> 
> On 13/09/2012, at 2:41 AM, Daniel Kerr  wrote:
> 
>> Lots of interesting specs on iDevices and sales,...
>> 
>> New iPhone 5
>> 7.6mm thin (18% thinner). Made entirely of glass and aluminium. 326ppi 
>> Retina Display, 4" 1136x640 resolution. Same width, but taller.
>> Still designed to be used with one hand,…
>> "Ultrafast Wireless" - Telstra, Optus and Virgin mentioned for faster 
>> network access,…
>> A6 processor (2x faster CPU and 2x graphics compared to A5). 22% smaller and 
>> more energy efficient ;o)
>> Battery life better then the iPhone 4s. Similar camera as 4s but smaller. 
>> (And a few more features,…Sapphire crystal lens cover.). Panorama photos. 
>> 1080p HD video, takes photos while recording.
>> Three microphones- front, bottom and back. (better voice recognition and 
>> noise cancelation).
>> New Dock connector - called Lightning. (changed from the over 9 year 
>> previous adapter!). Plugs in either way, all digital, 80% smaller. Can get 
>> an adapter for older devices until they get updated from third party 
>> wholesalers.
>> (And lol to their Thunder and Lightning comment,..lol)
>> Pricing is (about) the same - AUD I think is $799,$899 and $999 (16GB, 32GB 
>> and 64GB). Black and white colour choices again.
>> 
>> Pre order on the 21st here in Australia (i.e. next Friday)
>> 
>> 
>> More demo's of iOS6. Maps, full screen Safari (iCloud tabs), enhancements to 
>> Mail, Passbook, Shared Photo stream, Updated Siri
>> September 19th for iOS6 (for iPhone 4, iPhone 4S, 3GS, new iPad, iPad2 and 
>> iPod touch.
>> 
>> Changes to iTunes,… coming with iOS6 on Sept 19th. New look iTunes interface 
>> (similar to iOS one), and more Facebook and Twitter integration and "likes". 
>> New "mini player", with search and managing playlists. iCloud integration.
>> new iTunes late October.
>> 
>> iPod. New iPod nano. larger display, thinner, lighter, Lightning charger. 
>> 2.5" touch display. 7 colours. FM tuner. Look at photos and videos too. 
>> Bluetooth.
>> iPod Touch - thinner, lighter.4" display, A5 processor. (faster), New camera 
>> also. 1080p video and 720p FaceTime HD Camera on front. Bluetooth, Wireless, 
>> Airplay mirroring. Siri supported. 5 colours (can attach a strap to it as 
>> well now - colour matched also,..lol)
>> Available in October.
>> 
>> New earbuds - called EarPods. (3 years in design). - a directed speaker port 
>> that points forward into your ear canal. port in the back for mid-tones, 
>> port in the stem and the pain port. interesting,….
>> Shipping from today. (Will be included with the iPod touch, iPod nano and 
>> iPhone 5).
>> 
>> Pricing will be up soon I'm sure,…..
>> 
>> I'm sure more will be up on apple.com/au soon.
>> 
>> Enjoy!
>> 
>> Kind regards
>> Daniel
>> ---
>> Daniel Kerr
>> MacWizardry
>> 
>> Phone: 0414 795 960
>> Email: 
>> Web:   <http://www.macwizardry.com.au>
>> 
>> 
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>> 
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Re: Proposed name change to Apple Users WA

2012-09-12 Thread Carlo Margio
Mi Muggers,

There a many interesting points below I would like to comment on. I am mired 
down in family issues and preparation for delivery of a UWA test tomorrow so 
haven't had a spare moment. I will post on the week end.

Regards,
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On 12/09/2012, at 11:40 PM, Pete Smith  wrote:

> Hi Ronni and all other WAMUGGERS.
> 
> I'd just like to address two points from a personal perspective to put your 
> minds at ease.
> 
> 1. Domain name.   Knowing that the name change would invoke healthy public 
> debate on a public forum and also knowing that there are people out there 
> (not WAMUGGERS!!) who snap up possible domain names to hold out for 'ransom', 
> so to speak,  a couple of domain names were snapped up by WAMUG first.
> 
> If the end result is that the membership vote to change the name, we already 
> have the domain secured. If the end result is that membership vote to retain 
> WAMUG, then the domain names will simply expire and not be renewed. It was 
> just a precautionary thing.
> 
> Personally - please consider the change and vote for what you want.
> 
> 2. Constitution.   I don't know where the 28 days has come from. Our 
> constitution reads:
> 
>"5.3 Notice of General Meetings
> At least twenty one days notice of every Annual General Meeting or fourteen 
> days for every Special General Meeting shall be given to Members specifying 
> the place, the date and the hour of the Meeting and the general nature of any 
> special business, but the non-receipt of such notice by any Member shall not 
> invalidate the proceedings at any General Meeting."
> 
> The Associations Incorporation Act 1987 allows us to set the time period as 
> we see fit as long it is actually in the Rules (Constitution) which it is. 
> Other bodies may have 28 days but we don't. As you see, it is 21 days for the 
> AGM and only 14 days for a Special General meeting.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Pete Smith
> 
> On 12/09/2012, at 17:15 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
> 
>> OOPS ... I forgot another point I did hint at it my first post to the list.
>> 
>> In the post from the Committee it was mentioned having to explain the WAMUG 
>> name. Isn't this sort of doing the right thing, as it's getting them 
>> "enquiring" about it.  
>> Once you've got them asking what it is, you then explain what WAMUG is, what 
>> it does (covering all Apple products) etc etc.
>> 
>> You have then got them intrigued enough to enquire about it, so you've 
>> "got them",... then you can sell them on the idea to come and see, come to a 
>> meeting or join the Mailing List.
>> 
>> Well that's it from me, all done, nothing more to say.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>> 
>> On 12/09/2012, at 4:57 PM, Ronda Brown  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi WAMUGers,
>>> 
>>> Well, I have said "Hi WAMUGers" another time ;-)
>>> 
>>> I've been giving some more thought to this and watching the list and 
>>> comments and pondering the following, which I haven't seen answered as yet, 
>>> so will re-post for interest sake, some of the queries raised so far, as 
>>> well as some points of interest I have.
>>> 
>>> First off, I'm assuming that appleuserswa.org.au would be the new website 
>>> address. After doing a search of registered Domain Names, I noticed it was 
>>> registered already, which I then discovered was by WAMUG. Just curious why 
>>> this was registered when it has not been agreed on as yet?
>>> 
>>> Secondly, Merv mentioned the other day that the Special Meeting requires a 
>>> 28 day notice, so may not fall in time for the 2nd October. I'm assuming 
>>> this would then need to be the November meeting to keep in line with the 
>>> constitution.
>>> 
>>> The Committee mention a marketing push in the original post. Has a 
>>> marketing push been tried currently with WAMUG as it stands to date?
>>> Couldn't this be tried as another (much easier) way to try and recruit more 
>>> members. Surely just advertising WAMUG - come along to learn all about and 
>>> gain extensive knowledge and help for all things Apple - iPhone, iPad, 
>>> AppleTV. New members welcome to the monthly meetings. Or something along 
>>> that theme? 
>>> 
>>> Any marketing material would still just refer to "the whole range of Apple 
>>> products and services" that you're trying to ta

Re: Time Machine backup

2012-09-09 Thread Carlo Margio
Keep fighting the good fight Peter. Someone may write an epic poem about your 
struggles as a guide for future generations. :-)

Best of luck!
Carlo

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On 10/09/2012, at 6:31 AM, Peter Crisp  wrote:

> Righto, so the two 'good' sparsebundles copied off ok, then the Time Capsule 
> erase. Using Airport Utility, I was presented with 4 options of how to erase 
> the TC - Quick Erase, All Zeros, All Zeroes 3 times, All Zeros 7 times. I 
> chose "All Zeros" initially and the process started ok and got to around 15% 
> where it never got past - I left it for the whole weekend! Not sure why this 
> was but after some learned advice from Dad, I interrupted it and did the 
> Quick Erase which was complete in minutes which resulted in 929.45 GB free 
> from the 1TB. All good.
> 
> Started shaking with anticipation at this point and got Tim's (9yo) MacBook, 
> checked the naming was ok and set it off.. Well it just set about 
> doing a normal first time backup (49GB) which was completed within 3 hours - 
> success!
> 
> Just got to reinstate the two other sparsebundles now and get it all sorted.
> 
> It's been a lengthy process with lots of help from many, for which I am 
> grateful, but this issue is almost completed now.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Pete
> 
> On 20/08/2012, at 8:28 PM, "wa...@realworldcomputing.com.au" 
>  wrote:
> 
>> Well done Peter! The new drive will help you sort things out for you Time 
>> Capsule and besides will be useful afterwards for future upgrades when you 
>> want to make a clone.
>> 
>> You are exactly right about the formatting. Make sure you use a GUID 
>> partition table and the Mac OS Extended (Journaled) file system.
>> 
>> Good luck!
>> Carlo
>> 
>> 
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>> 
>> mob: +61 404 296 965
>> i...@realworldcomputing.com.au
>> www.realworldcomputing.com.au
>> 
>> On 20/08/2012, at 5:04 PM, Peter Crisp  wrote:
>> 
>>> Ok, thanks again for this Carlo. I've ebay'd a 1TB external drive so I have 
>>> the space to do the operations below. It will probably arrive with FAT 
>>> formatting. I presume I will need to reformat the new drive to OS Journaled 
>>> so it can accomodate the sparsebundle files (>4GB). Is this right?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The rest should be straight forward.
>>> 
>>> I'll revert either way with success or otherwise.
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> 
>>> Pete
>>> 
>>> On 08/08/2012, at 9:04 AM, "wa...@realworldcomputing.com.au" 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> The nice formatting of the previous was removed at the news group server 
>>>> so I will repost just the bullet points of the previous email...
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> * Obtain an external drive with enough space to store the two sparse 
>>>> bundles you wish to keep.
>>>> 
>>>> * Turn off all Time Machine back up from al the computers in your house.
>>>> 
>>>> * Move the two good sparse bundles to an external drive for safe keeping.
>>>> 
>>>> * Erase the Time Capsule using Airport Utility ( knowledge base article 
>>>> link
>>>>  http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4522?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US )
>>>> 
>>>> * At this point try to backup the new install of your 9yo's computer to 
>>>> Time Capsule. There should be nothing stopping it now.
>>>> 
>>>> (post back if it does not work)
>>>> 
>>>> * Copy back the other two sparse bundles to Time Capsule
>>>> 
>>>> * Check that the existing computers are still associated with their newly 
>>>> reinstate sparse bundle
>>>> 
>>>> (if not post back)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> C
>>>> 
>>>> On 08/08/2012, at 8:57 AM, wa...@realworldcomputing.com.au wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Pete,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Just to wrap up this thread I'll summarise where we left things. It seems 
>>>>> the existing Time Capsule sparse bundle associated with you 9yo's MacBook 
>>>>> refuses to budge. In the end Time Capsule is an independent computer with 
>>>>> its own permissions and accounts. Apple attempts to keep these 
>>>>> permissions synchronised but there ca

Re: Interesting re embedded email attachments

2012-09-06 Thread Carlo Margio
I like your new category of user error, Peter.

On 07/09/2012, at 7:56 AM, Peter Hinchliffe  wrote:

>  It's not necessarily user error (apart from the fact that they're using 
> Windows). 


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Re: difference in ipad2 and new ipad

2012-09-06 Thread Carlo Margio
Hi Susan,

Even though Telstra's 4G frequency is not available on the iPad, nevertheless 
as near I can make it the new iPad frequencies of 850MHz and 2100MHz still 
offer some speed improvements in Australia. The give the user access to a HPSA+ 
which, while technically not 4G, it is much faster than 3G. Here is a quote 
from an article on the subject in the Australian

> But the news isn’t all bad for iPad users needing mobile network 
> connectivity. The inclusion of High Speed Packet Access (HSPA) plus 850MHz 
> and 2100MHz means the new iPads in theory are capable of much faster download 
> speeds on Telstra’s NextG network, and Optus and Vodafone networks

and here is a link to the article:

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/australian-it/opinion/apples-new-ipad-4g-a-no-go-on-telstras-mobile-network/story-e6frgb0o-1226293057168

Regards,
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On 06/09/2012, at 5:12 PM, Susan Hastings  wrote:

> Hi, there doesn't seem to be a big difference between the ipad2 and iPad 
> third generation. 4g on the iPad is not available in Australia yet even 
> though the third generation got it in the USA. 
> 
> But, who knows about the iPad 4? That may be when we get 4g here in 
> australia. haven't seen a rumor about the ipad 4, but have seen enough on the 
> iPad mini to convince me it's coming, I thought in October, with the iPhone 5 
> to be announced in September.
> 
> Reading all of these rumors can 'do your head in'.
> 
> I suppose if you were deciding between 2 and 3 I'd get the later version 
> because it will be longer before you want to upgrade.
> 
> Cheers, Susan
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On 06/09/2012, at 1:58 PM, Ronda Brown  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Lynn,
>> 
>> If you are not in a great rush, perhaps might be worth waiting a little 
>> longer. I still have the original 64GB Wi-Fi 3G iPad and waiting for the 
>> iPad 4 ;-)
>> 
>> There have been reports that Apple will launch two new tablets during 2012: 
>> a smaller "iPad Mini" September 2012 and "iPad 4" October 2012.
>> Will Apple do this? Well we don't know for sure... :-)
>> 
>> Do a Google search and you will find "Rumours" & "Reports".
>> Her is one:
>> <http://www.t3.com/news/apple-ipad-mini-rumours>
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>> 
>> On 06/09/2012, at 1:46 PM, Lynn Koh  wrote:
>> 
>>> thanks carlos.
>>> 
>>> that article just reminded me that ipad2 is only available in 16gb... am 
>>> wanting 64gb, just like my old one...
>>> 
>>> so looks like ill be forking out extra (again!) for my ipad - got the 1st 
>>> one just before ipad2 came out and it dropped in price.
>>> 
>>> *back of hand to forehead* to wait or not to wait, that is the question... 
>>> hehehe
>>> 
>>> regards
>>> Lynn
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Carlo Margio" 
>>> To: wamug@wamug.org.au
>>> Sent: Thursday, 6 September, 2012 1:30:53 PM GMT +08:00 Beijing / Chongqing 
>>> / Hong Kong / Urumqi
>>> Subject: Re: difference in ipad2 and new ipad
>>> 
>>> Hi Lynn,
>>> 
>>> Here is a good article comparing the two models:
>>> 
>>> http://www.pcworld.com/article/252964/new_ipad_vs_ipad_2_which_is_the_better_deal.html
>>> 
>>> Apart from the screen there is a difference in the graphics processor and 
>>> of course 4G if you are getting the mobile enabled model. I personally 
>>> would go for the new one.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Carlo
>>> 
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>>> Carlo Margio
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>>> 
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>>> 
>>> On 06/09/2012, at 7:36 AM, Lynn Koh  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> hi guys 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> thinking of going to garden city on sat to see what i can get on opening 
>>>> day (for those thinking of going, could make a field trip outta it??). 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> but my main purpose is to get my ipad. 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> for those who have had ipad2 and new ipad, is there any difference you 
>>>> found with them? 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 

Re: difference in ipad2 and new ipad

2012-09-05 Thread Carlo Margio
Hi Lynn,

Here is a good article comparing the two models:

http://www.pcworld.com/article/252964/new_ipad_vs_ipad_2_which_is_the_better_deal.html

Apart from the screen there is a difference in the graphics processor and of 
course 4G if you are getting the mobile enabled model. I personally would go 
for the new one.

Regards,
Carlo

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On 06/09/2012, at 7:36 AM, Lynn Koh  wrote:

> 
> 
> hi guys 
> 
> 
> 
> thinking of going to garden city on sat to see what i can get on opening day 
> (for those thinking of going, could make a field trip outta it??). 
> 
> 
> 
> but my main purpose is to get my ipad. 
> 
> 
> 
> for those who have had ipad2 and new ipad, is there any difference you found 
> with them? 
> 
> 
> 
> as far as i can tell, the only difference is that the new ipad is HD (does it 
> make a difference to your viewing?) and a faster chip, which doesnt even make 
> a difference in speeds in Aust. Correct me if i am wrong and feel free to 
> add. 
> 
> 
> 
> if there is not much of a difference, will get ipad2. 
> 
> 
> 
> thanks. 
> 
> 
> 
> regards 
> 
> lynn 
> 
> 
> P/S: yes i have read the tech specs on the ipad section of apple website 
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Re: testing

2012-09-05 Thread Carlo Margio
No one here but we mice... :-)

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On 06/09/2012, at 1:08 PM, Ronda Brown  wrote:

> Quiet day Lynn :-)
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> 
> On 06/09/2012, at 1:06 PM, Lynn Koh  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> hi all 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> am i not getting list emails or is today a really quiet day? 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> the only list email i got today was my own email i sent this morning. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> regards 
>> 
>> lynn 
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Re: iTeleport for remotely controlling Mac or PC from iPhone or iPad on sale tomorrow

2012-09-03 Thread Carlo Margio
I had decided not to pursue the opportunity to purchase iTeleport but I did 
wonder if it was US only. They do say "in conjunction with Two Dollar Tuesday", 
and Two Dollar Tuesday is US only.

Regards,
Carlo

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On 04/09/2012, at 5:56 AM, Martin Hill  wrote:

> Hmm, it could be US Sept 4th or it could be this special is only available on 
> the US App Store. 
> 
> That's a bummer if the latter.  :(
> 
> Martin HILL
> iLecture Systems Team leader | Curtin Teaching & Learning
> 
> Curtin University
> Tel | +61 8 9266 3101 
> Mobile | 0401 103 194
> Email | m.b.h...@curtin.edu.au 
> Web | ilectures.curtin.edu.au
> 
> On 04/09/2012, at 12:15 AM, Brian Risbey  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Martin,
>> 
>> I wonder if that is 'US Sept 4', in a few hours from now?
>> Just had a quick peak, just after midnight, and shows as $51.99(Aus$).
>> 
>> Will check it out later on today, 
>> thank you for the 'heads-up'
>> 
>> Brian
>> 
>> 
>> On 03/09/2012, at 8:28 PM, Martin Hill  wrote:
>> 
>> I highly recommend this iPhone/iPad app - I bought it for the regular $25 
>> price and think it was still worth it so $1.99 is an absolutely fantastic 
>> deal.
>> 
>> It allows you to remotely control your Mac or PC at home or work without 
>> having to worry about port-forwarding or NAT-PMP etc thru firewalls from 
>> anywhere in the world.  It can also turn your iPhone/iPad into a wireless 
>> remote/trackpad/keyboard for your PC or Mac when in the same room.
>> -Mart
>> iTeleport announces 24-hour price drop of 96% on Mac App Store
>> September 3, 2012 in Networks and FTP
>> 
>> [prMac.com] Mountain View, California - iTeleport is pleased to announce an 
>> exciting price drop event on September 4, 2012. iTeleport is a top-grossing 
>> iPhone, iPad and Mac app that lets users control their Mac / Windows PC from 
>> anywhere. It has been reviewed in prestigious publications such as the Wall 
>> St. Journal.
>> 
>> On September 4, 2012, iTeleport on the Mac App Store will have a price drop 
>> from its current $49.99 price to $1.99 for 24 hours, in conjunction with Two 
>> Dollar Tuesday - a 96% price drop. Additionally, iTeleport on the iPhone / 
>> iPad App Store will have a price drop from $24.99 to $7.99.
>> 
>> iTeleport has consistently had incredible reviews from its loyal user-base. 
>> iTeleport has helped hundreds of thousands of users connect to their remote 
>> computers more than 20 million times since its introduction to the App Store 
>> in 2008. It supports the VNC & RDP remote desktop standards. It has a 
>> patented intuitive user interface that users love - controlling the remote 
>> mouse using the iPhone screen as a touchpad. This Tuesday, iTeleport invites 
>> all budget-conscious app shoppers to try out the apps - and get the entire 
>> iOS & Mac offerings for less than $9.99.
>> 
>> iTeleport has been described as "unbelievably wicked" (David Pogue), and the 
>> "best iPhone application ever" (Boy Genius Report). 84% of our customers 
>> have given us 5-star ratings for version 6.0, with glowing reviews. One such 
>> user said:
>> 
>> "This app is simply phenomenal. I cannot say how much time and money it has 
>> saved me both for work, and simply accessing my own PCs for various 
>> purposes. Beautiful design, great support (have had it for several years now 
>> and support is still five stars - regular updates and personal responses) 
>> and top-tier design standards/quality. I have seen the setup/install process 
>> continue to improve and get easier these past years to the point where now 
>> all of the fairly complex VNC config issues are no longer issues for the 
>> user. The gmail integration eliminates the traditional router config 
>> headaches - just a brilliant design. Frankly I would have paid twice the 
>> price (or more) and it still would have been a steal IMO. Thank you team for 
>> a superb, tight application! [...] This app is absolutely the most valuable 
>> app I have owned in those five years." - sfc2001
>> 
>> Review copies of iTeleport's iPhone, iPad and Mac apps are available via 
>> e-mail.
>> 
>> iTeleport
>> Purchase and Download (MAS)
>> Purchase and Download (iOS)
>> YouTube Video (Demo)
>> Mac Screenshot
>> iPad Screenshot
>> iTeleport is a Silicon Valley-based mobile startup that focuses on remote 
>&

Re: Drawing on iPad

2012-09-02 Thread Carlo Margio
Hi Merv,

I have not tried HelvetiNote so please let the list know what you think of it. 
I do use Notes Plus and can recommend it highly. For detailed notes with 
mathematical equations I found that the stylus was an improvement over a 
finger. The experience of writing on a iPad is still not as natural as pencil 
and paper but I hope that this will improve over the coming years.

Regards,
Carlo

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On 02/09/2012, at 6:40 PM, Merv Bond  wrote:

> Yes, I know Steve was agin this sort of thing, but ...
> I was presented with a stylus (Targus), to use with my iPad. This made 
> me think of Googlewrite (very limited),  and then of course to drawing.
> 
> A review of notetaking apps for iPad included  HelvetiNote.
> HelvetiNote provides for sketching within a note.
> Has anyone tried this app? Opinion?
> Has anyone had a good result from an alternative?
> Your opinions valued.
> 
> Merv
> iPad 2 iOS 5.1.1
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Re: Writing Documents.

2012-08-31 Thread Carlo Margio
Hi Tony,

I find Open Office to be slightly more problematic than MS Word but one 
solution is for your wife to download and install Open Office on her laptop. It 
is free after all. As a minor variation on this; the last time I looked into 
this deeply, about a year ago, Libre Office was a far more vibrant fork of Open 
Office -- Open Office at the time was moribund as an open source project. I 
believe that since then Open Office has recovered somewhat. In any case, here 
is a link to download Libre Office

http://www.libreoffice.org/download/

Regards,
Carlo

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On 01/09/2012, at 11:47 AM, Tony Francis  wrote:

> Hi Guy's
> Probably a silly question, my Wife Lynette has just downloaded Mountain Lion 
> and is in a quandary, Lynette wants to write a document and used to use WORD, 
> I use Open Office .org but Lynette doesn't have Open Office on her laptop, 
> and WORD disappeared a little while ago, any suggestions please?
> 
> Kind regards
> 
> Tony 
> 
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WAMUG meeting Tuesday, 4 September 7:00 pm - Futuresphere

2012-08-31 Thread Carlo Margio
Hi Wamuggers,

Meeting time: Tuesday, 4 September 7:00 pm
Place: Futuresphere, Christ Church Grammar School, Queenslea Drive, Claremont

The first Tuesday night of the month is WAMUG meeting night. This month we will 
have presentations on hands-on demos of Evernote and Dropbox. Remember that 
everyone is welcome to come to meetings so bring your Windows switcher friends.

After the usual Q&A, Maureen Smith will tell us how to organise all those odds 
and ends of information in our lives using Evernote. Then Peter Hinchliffe will 
show us how to keep our information in sync across all or Apple devices using 
Dropbox. 

Again this month after the presentation we have popular hands-on sessions where 
you will be able to sit individually at a Futuresphere iMac and practice the 
concepts shown in the presentation. You will be given a worksheet and committee 
members will help you with any problems.
WAMUG meeting agenda 2012–09–04

7:00 Intro and Q&A (15 mins)
7:15 Evernote - Maureen (20 mins)
7:35 Dropbox - Peter H (20 mins)
7:55 Coffee break (10 mins)
8:05 Hands on sessions (40 mins)
8:45 End meeting or stay around until 9:00 to chat.
Hands on sessions

Evernote Maureen
Dropbox Peter
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Re: Any User Feedback for App WannaAudio?

2012-07-01 Thread Carlo Margio RWC
Hi Alen,

You could give this shareware utility, ffmpegX, a try. I have had mixed success 
with it as it depends on a number of plugins that must be downloaded 
separately. Once it it running, drop the file on the left side of the app 
window and select the preset "Movie audio to mp3".

http://www.ffmpegx.com/

Failing that you could be a trail blazer and try WannAudio for the rest of us. 
:-)

Regards,
Carlo

On 01/07/2012, at 18:09 , Alan Smith wrote:

> Hi Ronni
> 
> Yes, a possible solution.  Thank you.  The simple renaming of the file 
> extension made it recognisable as an MPEG-4 audio file.I then edited and 
> re-saved the file in MP3 format which was recognised by my little MP3 player. 
>   As you noted, the audio file is the same size as the original video which 
> is a pity.
> 
> Couldn't locate an obvious "export audio" option in my iMovie'11 (ver 9.0.4). 
>   Or is the process more labour intensive, perhaps by highlighting the audio 
> in the Event window and copying it out?   (I've copied audio clips IN to 
> iMovie projects.)  Another one to test when time allows.
> 
> I have since heard that QT7 can be installed on my iMac and be upgraded to QT 
> Pro.  To be tested!   In the long run perhaps QT Pro at $45 will be cheaper 
> than an untested app that is "only"  $8!
> 
> Cheers
> Alan
> 
> 
> On 01/07/2012, at 5:07 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
> 
> Hi Alan,
> 
> Have not used the app you mention, I have used Toast, QT Pro, and iMovie to 
> extract audio.
> 
> But, have you tried duplicating the .m4v file (so you still have the original 
> in case).
> Then in Finder just changing the extension from .m4v to .m4a?
> 
> It 'should' change the video file to an Audio file without loosing any sound 
> quality.
> But the file size I don't think will change which would mean that the video 
> track is still in the file using up space.
> 
> Worth a shot ;-) I'll try it myself when I find a .mv4 on my MBP
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> 
> 
> On 01/07/2012, at 12:59 PM, Alan Smith wrote:
> 
>> Hi
>> 
>> Has anyone from WAMUG used the WannaAudio program which is  $8.49 from Apple 
>> App Store?   There are no user reviews on the App Store or Macupdate sites.  
>>  If it was free I would just download and try it, but $$ is different!
>> 
>> My need is to extract audio from a long meeting recorded in .mov format.
>> Video was edited in iMovie to break up the session into the wanted audio 
>> sections.  These were saved in iTunes .m4v format.I want to extract just 
>> the audio  (voice, not music) from either the .mov or .m4v  files to a 
>> standard medium quality audio .mp3 format.   
>> 
>> Some forums suggest the Garageband could do the job.  Any comments about 
>> this?   I confess that I've never used Garageband so i don't know its 
>> capabilities. I don't have Titanium Toast which has been suggested as 
>> another possibility.  Other forums suggested Handbrake, Quicktime, and even 
>> iMovie itself:  I can't see and obvious way to extract audio as a separate 
>> file from any of these programs. 
>> 
>> Regards, Alan
>> 
>> Alan Smith
>> iMac 21.5" Intel Core 2 Duo 3.06GHz 12G RAM - OSX 10.6.8
>> iPad2; ATV2
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Re: Adieu

2012-07-01 Thread Carlo Margio RWC
Don't be too hard on yourself Stephen. I thought the discussion was most 
restrained and everyone got to put their point of view - which is exactly what 
should happen. Compared to some other site WAMUG can be proud of how it handles 
itself.

Regards,
Carlo

Sent from my iPad

On 01/07/2012, at 17:33, Stephen Chape  wrote:

> Hi folks,
> 
> I also apologise if I have upset anyone with my comment, but not for having 
> an opinion.
> I watched the discussion with amazement for quite some time before I felt the 
> need to say something.
> Now I regret it .. should have kept my trap shut !
> 
> 
> On 30/06/2012, at 9:50 PM, Reg Whitely wrote:
> 
>> Hello WAMUG and list members,
>> 
>> This discussion is getting really silly and destructive.
>> 
>> It is not our right to judge others. 
>> 
>> After midnight tonight I will not be able to reply to this mailing list, at 
>> least in the short term. This is my personal choice.
>> 
>> I trust I have not made personal judgements and 'put-downs' to WAMUG members 
>> and list members. If I have, I apologise. 
>> 
>> I trust that the WAMUG friendships I have made, both personal and virtual, 
>> will continue long into the future.
>> 
>> It seems the decision of the WAMUG committee to restrict mailing list access 
>> has become topical and divisionary.
>> 
>> Surely we exist to care and support each other.
>> 
>> WAMUG and list members, please do not bully members and supporters away.
>> 
>> Reg
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Reg Whitely
>> 
>> Home: 08 9921 7272
>> Mob: 04 8899 7313
>> Email: rwhit...@internode.on.net
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 30/06/2012, at 7:31 pm, Wendy S Austin wrote:
>> 
>>> Truly, I despair as this comment.   
>>> 
>>> Goodbye WAMUG.
>>> 
>>> Wendy
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 30/06/2012, at 19:18 , Stephen Chape wrote:
>>> 
 Hello Daniel ... I am with you completely.
 I am absolutely staggered at the response to having to pay annual 
 membership.
 I find the assistance from the group and obviously the time and cost 
 involved with running the list invaluable.
 
 As far as I am concerned anyone who objects to paying a $30.00 annual fee 
 we can do without !
 
 Some of the responses have been nothing short of disgraceful !
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Thoughts on membership

2012-06-30 Thread Carlo Margio RWC
Apologies. I meant Wendy of course. I am not sure what I was looking at when I 
read the name Rosemary and used it in the response.

Regards,
Carlo

On 30/06/2012, at 17:00 , cm wrote:

> Hi Rosemary,
> 
> That's a point well made and we will take it to heart. Thank you for bringing 
> that up. I think that for the coming year and possibly for the remainder of 
> this year we should look at pensioner, student, and family subscriptions.
> 
> I will  repeat a passage from an earlier email that may have been lost in the 
> traffic of the past 24 hours:
> 
>> The second solution I would like to offer is that at the next committee 
>> meeting we will discuss some bursaries for members who really cannot afford 
>> to pay the membership fee. This would be entirely confidential between the 
>> prospective member and WAMUG. If the committee is in agreement you will see 
>> a mail out on this subject after the next committee meeting on July 17 and 
>> our website will be updated to reflect this.
> 
> Best regards,
> Carlo
> 
> On 30/06/2012, at 16:51 , Wendy S Austin wrote:
> 
>> 
>> I have been pondering the comments from Peter and Eugene and their reasons 
>> for not being able to pay the $30.00 membership fee.   I feel the need to 
>> say I was rather disappointed in some of the responses to those comments, 
>> and refer to the comment below.   It is not for us to judge what is or is 
>> not a significant amount of money to someone else.It is also not very 
>> wise to be as simplistic as the comment below, about such things.   It might 
>> work out to 58 cents a week but thrown on top of other expenses people have, 
>> $30.00 cannot always be found.I had a young school girl knock on my door 
>> last week, fund raising for something, and when I told her I did not want to 
>> participate she told me it was just the price of a cup of coffee after all.  
>>  How patronising!She was given a rather stern talking to and sent on her 
>> way.
>> 
>> Please don't respond to people's honest expressions of why they cannot meet 
>> the $30.00 cost in such patronising ways, it really does demean you.
>> 
>> Kind regards
>> 
>> Wendy
>> On 28/06/2012, at 19:41 , Michael Hawkins wrote:
>> 
>>> Yep, the 58 cents a week is well and truly worth it!
>>> 
>>> Michael.
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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