Re: [WAMUG] iPhone iOS 17.1.2

[Robin Belford via WAMUG]

   Hi Walter,
   All you need to do is this.
   iPhone: Go to Settings > General > AirPlay & Handoff, then turn
   off Handoff.
   cheers,
   robin

   On 11 Dec 2023, at 6:19 pm, FW via WAMUG 
   wrote:

   Good Evening,
   When I receive and accept a call,  I normally - where possible - touch
   the Audio button to hear the caller while I carry on
   with whatever I am doing.
   Then a new screen comes up which asks me to make a selection from the
   list:
   iMac Intel
   iPad
   Speaker
   iPhone
   When I touch Speaker,  the caller can be heard.
   Is it possible to adjust some setting so that “Speaker" is the default
   ? ?
   Without having to see the other options ?
   Thanks,
   Cheers
   Walter
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Re: [WAMUG] Which Email address?

[Robin Belford via WAMUG]

Yes, my plan in the long term is similar.

The process will be slow though as of the 705 entries, for various web 
sites/organisations etc, in my password manager almost all of them have an 
email address for the username and they do not have a separate field in the 
account profile for a separate contact email address.
Thus it is problematic if an old username/email address is abandoned then the 
password recovery or even continued usage of that account could become very 
difficult.

ymmv

cheers,

Robin

> On 9 Nov 2023, at 10:31 am, Stephen Chape via WAMUG 
>  wrote:
> 
>   Good idea Rod.
> 
>   Exactly what I advised my kids and grandkids.
> 
>   On 9 Nov 2023, at 8:06 am, Rod Blitvich via WAMUG
>wrote:
> 
> Thank you everyone.
> I have opted in to The Messaging Company (I think following Daniel
>   K’s
> instructions).
> I have changed my “send new mail address" in Apple Mail to
> [1]bli...@mac.com
> I will also keep my iinet address and review this when TMC decide to
> start charging.
> I guess I have a year to change email address for various
> accounts/logins from my iinet one to my mac.com one.
> Cheers
> Blitto
> Rod Blitvich  - Amy & Sam’s Dad
> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
> On 2 Nov 2023, at 6:05 pm, Marcus Harris via WAMUG
>  wrote:
> As I understand the situation, IINET or WESTNET are the internet
> service providers and that won’t change.
> One isn’t obliged to use @ iinet or @ westnet.
> I haven’t used those addresses for several years and I’m happy with
>   all
> the apple addresses @me @ Mac @ iCloud.
> Cheers
> Marcus
> Marcus Harris
> Mobile +61417965618
>   On 2 Nov 2023, at 2:56 pm, Peter Crisp via WAMUG
>wrote:
>      Hi Rod, I am with Westnet as my ISP - same org as iinet I
>   understand.
>Westnet advised me a couple of months back too they are
>   outsourcing
>   the
>email management. This was received with big groans. However,
>   Westnet
>(and iinet) are outsourcing the email management to The Messaging
>Company. You have the choice to Opt In to their plan, in which
>   case
>they will manage the full migration of your Westnet (or iinet)
>   Mail
>accounts to The Messaging Company, but importantly you will keep
>exactly the same email address afterwards. I have opted in as
>   making a
>change to a different email address would be a huge undertaking
>   with
>all the tangles with multiple other subscriptions, providers etc
>   my
>email address is associated with. Same to for the 4 other family
>members in my family. I dug further into this - the first year of
>   email
>management is free with The Messaging Company and then from year
>   2,
>they will charge a fee for the email management. If I look at my
>Westnet plan, the current email management fee will disappear form
>   day
>1 after migration and thereafter. I don't know yet how much The
>Messaging Company will charge from year 2.
>You can ring the helpline for further details if other questions
>   or
>there is an FAQ page for the commonly asked questions.
>Kind Regards
>Peter Crisp
>  - Original Message -
>From:
>"WAMUG" 
>To:
>  "WAMUG" 
>Cc:
>  "Rod Blitvich" 
>Sent:
>  Thu, 2 Nov 2023 14:13:05 +0800
>Subject:
>  [WAMUG] Which Email address?
>  Hi Folks
>  So iinet email is shifting to another provider.
>  Please can you suggest which email address should now I use as
>   my
>  primary address?
>  I currently use rb...@iinet.net.au
>  I have the following email addresses:
>  rb...@iinet.net.au
>  bli...@mac.com
>  bli...@icloud.com
>  I am thinking of making bli...@mac.com as my primary address
>  Thank you
>  Rod Blitvich
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Re: [WAMUG] Which Email address?

[Robin Belford via WAMUG]

Hi Wendy,

I’m not sure you have fully understood the minimal effect on the user that the 
transfer of the email hosting of iinet, westnet et. al. email services actually 
entails.
Now perhaps because you appear to be accessing your email via a web browser you 
are experiencing the dual login dance (it sounds absurd to me).

You could consider using an email client, such as Mail, which comes installed 
on every macintosh and iPhone.
Using these services I, my wife, and my children have experienced a 
frictionless transition. 
Infact they don’t really know, or care, who is managing their email hosting.
All they care about is continuity of service, which they have experienced.

As for your assertion that third party companies, such as Medibank etc. expect 
you to change your email address is a complete nonsense. 
If that is what you have been told you, have been badly advised.

You just keep using your westnet/iinet/ address as if nothing has happened.

Regards,

Robin




> On 4 Nov 2023, at 5:40 pm, wendy.corrick--- via WAMUG 
>  wrote:
> 
>   Yep Peter I agree with your good summary.
> 
>   I too have an iinet address (one of their very early customers in fact)
>   and I did more than groan when I heard they intended to out source the
>   management of their iinet email customers.
> 
>   I did it by the due date and now log in to The Messaging Company first;
>   this takes me automatically to the familiar iinet screen where I log in
>   again.
> 
>   All is OK;  except many companies eg Medibank assume that ALL iinet
>   customers MUST change their address.  Our postman (the one that goes
>   around the streets delivering mail) is weighed down by the numbers of
>   letters this household has received requesting us to let the company
>   know of our new email address.  (I exaggerate a bit there!)  What I
>   haven't worked out is are these companies responding to some emails
>   that bounced? or are they just assuming that all iinet customers need
>   to change their address.
> 
>   It is becoming a real problem;  and very time consuming in trying to
>   contact each company to tell them my address is valid.
> 
>   Whether or not the Messaging Company will be happy to have all these
>   iinet customers after the first year we will just have to wait and
>   see..  Along with how much they charge us.
> 
>   Best wishes all
> 
>   Wendy
> 
>   Friends of Gabbiljee respectfully acknowledges that it is located on
>   the land of the Whadjuk Noongar people.
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> 
>   From:
>   "WAMUG" 
> 
>   To:
> 
> "WAMUG" 
> 
>   Cc:
> 
> "Peter Crisp" 
> 
>   Sent:
> 
> Thu, 02 Nov 2023 14:55:29 +0800
> 
>   Subject:
> 
> Re: [WAMUG] Which Email address?
> Hi Rod, I am with Westnet as my ISP - same org as iinet I
> understand.
> Westnet advised me a couple of months back too they are outsourcing
> the email management. This was received with big groans. However,
> Westnet (and iinet) are outsourcing the email management to The
> Messaging Company. You have the choice to Opt In to their plan, in
> which case they will manage the full migration of your Westnet (or
> iinet) Mail accounts to The Messaging Company, but importantly you
> will keep exactly the same email address afterwards. I have opted in
> as making a change to a different email address would be a huge
> undertaking with all the tangles with multiple other subscriptions,
> providers etc my email address is associated with. Same to for the 4
> other family members in my family. I dug further into this - the
> first
> year of email management is free with The Messaging Company and then
> from year 2, they will charge a fee for the email management. If I
> look at my Westnet plan, the current email management fee will
> disappear form day 1 after migration and thereafter. I don't know
> yet
> how much The Messaging Company will charge from year 2.
> You can ring the helpline for further details if other questions or
> there is an FAQ page for the commonly asked questions.
> Kind Regards
> Peter Crisp
> - Original Message -
> From: "WAMUG"
> To:"WAMUG"
> Cc:"Rod Blitvich"
> Sent:Thu, 2 Nov 2023 14:13:05 +0800
> Subject:[WAMUG] Which Email address?
> Hi Folks
> So iinet email is shifting to another provider.
> Please can you suggest which email address should now I use as my
> primary address?
> I currently use rb...@iinet.net.au
> I have the following email addresses:
> rb...@iinet.net.au
> bli...@mac.com
> bli...@icloud.com
> I am thinking of making bli...@mac.com as my primary address
> Thank you
> Rod Blitvich
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Re: [WAMUG] Iinet/Westnet/TPG/internode etc stopping email address hosting

[Robin Belford via WAMUG]

   Every one is probably getting these today

   [1]https://help.iinet.net.au/iinet-email-messaging-company

   [2]https://help.iinet.net.au/domain-name-registry-transfer

   On 1 Aug 2023, at 10:39 pm, Stephen Chape via WAMUG
wrote:

 Thank you Daniel.
 My daughter is with Westnet, so I will chat to her about this.
 On 1 Aug 2023, at 8:40 pm, Pete Smith via WAMUG
  wrote:
   G’day Daniel.
   I saw on Internode’s site today that they have not been hosting new
   email addresses since 20 June or thereabouts but I didn’t see
 anything
   about current ones. Mind you, I wasn’t looking because I was trying
 to
   access my webmail because Mail was stuffing me around yet again.
   Interestingly, I couldn’t access that at the time as well.
   I might ring them tomorrow to check if my problems are in anyway
   concerned with their new system, although my mail works fine from
   the
   iPhone.
   I’m off hunting now.
   Regards,
   Pete Smith
   On 1 Aug 2023, at 6:36 pm, Daniel Kerr via WAMUG
wrote:
   Hi All
   An interesting piece of info was brought to my attention, and to be
   honest I hadn’t seen it previously. - (definitely not an email from
   iinet advising me of the change. Possibly an email will come later
   on
   perhaps?)
   Apparently iinet/TPG and all it’s subsidiaries (Westnet, Internode
 etc)
   have decided they are no longer going to host their customer’s
 emails.
   (And new customers signing up are not given an @ISP email address).
   They are moving it over to another business where they (the ISP)
   are
   apparently paying for it for a year (up to Sept 2024 from what I
   can
   gather), then after that if you then want to still keep using your
 @isp
   email address, then you will have to pay for it. I haven’t seen any
   plans as yet, but a few things I read said it could be “from $3.99
 per
   email address per month). - though doesn’t show what the quota
   would
   be.
   Some other people had said to budget about $60 a year to keep the
 email
   address.
   The “notice” is on all the ISP websites, so for example on the main
   iinet home page (and same for Westnet, TPG, Internode etc), all
   have
 a
   link to information about it.
   https://help.iinet.net.au/iinet-email-messaging-company
   Even the “new” company taking over (The Messaging Company),
   website's
   is fairly sparse on information.
   Definitely going to be a bit of wake up call for a lot of people.
   Who
   may have an @isp address for 20+ years, then find if they want to
 keep
   it they now have to pay. And I’m sure the internet plans won’t see
   a
   price decrease for the money saved on not supplying/hosting email
   addresses. Hey, I could be wrong,…but, well….time will tell.
   (I have an @iinet address that I’ve had for about 22+ years that
   I’ve
   been with them - not that I use it very much….but it’s there).
   I know I have quite a lot of clients that use their @isp address,
   so
   definitely going to be a change for a lot of people.
   Another good reason to have a domain name I guess, or a “free”
   email
   address like @iCloud.com, @gmail.com etc- then you can change ISPs
   without having to tell everyone your email address has changed.
   (As an aside, the price is about “normal” - as I looked at some of
 the
   “email only” hosting plans I have for clients and a 10GB plan is
   $60
 a
   year per mailbox)
   Definitely will be something to watch and see what happens with it.
   Thought I’d post to the list as possibly others may not have seen
   or
   been aware of this. :)
   Kind regards
   Daniel
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Re: [WAMUG] Photos

[Robin Belford via WAMUG]

You say your library is on an external drive.
Have you accessed this drive from another Mac running Ventura, where the Photos 
app is Version 8.0 (520.0.240) and possibly ugraded the libray in the process?
Where is your backup of the photolibrary?

Robin

> On 5 Jan 2023, at 7:35 pm, Rosemary Spark via WAMUG 
>  wrote:
> 
>   Hi,
>   I've run into a weird problem. I have Photo libraries on an external
>   hard drive.
>   Now (after updating Monterey) when I try to open them I get a strange
>   message.
> 
>   Unsupported Library
> 
>   The library “2021.photoslibrary” is from a newer version of Photos.
>   Please upgrade Photos to open this library.
>   I'm using Monterey 12.6.2 which presumably updated to the latest
>   Photos. The version I have is Version 7.0 (460.0.120)
>   MacBook Air (13-inch, 2017)
>   Any ideas brains' trust?
>   Regards
>   Rosemary Spark
>   PO Box 781
>   South Fremantle WA 6162 Australia
>   Phone: + 61 ‭8 6397 6822‬
>   Mobile: 0414268043
>   Email: [1]arkaysp...@gmail.com
> 
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Re: [WAMUG] Anyone tried Ventura yet ?

[Robin Belford via WAMUG]

I installed Ventura on Tuesday morning.
Smooth sailing on the two MacBook Airs in my house, 2020 MBA & 2018 MBA.

r


> On 27 Oct 2022, at 8:30 am, Stephen Chape via WAMUG 
>  wrote:
> 
>   Just wondering about any issues before I download ?
> 
>   Regards
>   Stephen Chape
>   Mac by choice
>   Windows because my employer knew no better
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