Re: How to stop my email address from being public on WAMUG Mailing List Archives?

2010-06-12 Thread Ronda Brown

Hi Stuart,

Your email address is not 'poached',  won't be 'poached', unless you have 
answered a question that people are searching for using Google or another 
search engine.
How people are finding mine is they do a search on 'Google' for a particular 
subject, one that I have answered or done a Tutorial on, and Google leads them 
to my message on the WAMUG Mailing list 'Archives'.
 
Then when they click the Reply via email to  name of the sender, a new email 
opens with my address … not WAMUG wamug@wamug.org.au

On our WAMUG Mailing List, (not The Archives), when we reply it replies to  
WAMUG wamug@wamug.org.au, not the individual person.
But,this does not happen on the Archives.

Cheers,
Ronni


On 12/06/2010, at 9:25 AM, Stuart Breden wrote:

 
 Agree.  Fortunately so far my address has not been poached by non-list users.
 
 However I still feel that on the WAMUG list each user should be able to make 
 his/her address accessible to who ever that person wants e.g. none, list 
 only, general etc.
 
 Stuart Breden
 PO Box 132
 Kalamunda WA 6926
 Ph: (08) 9257 1577
 Mbl: 0417 053 266
 
 
 
 On 10/06/2010, at 4:15 PM, Susan Hastings wrote:
 
 
 Hi, it seems we all have our email addresses available to anyone on the 
 Internet through the WAMUG archives.  Most online forums that I use only 
 allow access to participants' user names, and participants have a choice of 
 being contactable via email. I'm not sure that anything can be done on to 
 ensure greater privacy on this kind of email list. Cheers, Susan
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 10/06/2010, at 3:20 PM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 
 Hi Shay  Nicholas,
 
 Thanks for your replies.
 
 The emails are not coming from WAMUG Mailing List Members. They are coming 
 from people who have used Google to search on a subject, and have been 
 directed to my replies on the WAMUG Archives.
 Where they then read my answers to questions on WAMUG Subjects and click 
 'reply via email'.
 
 I do have email responses that I reply with, as below:
 
 1.  “I’m sorry but I am unable to help you at this time.
   I am currently busy with Clients.
   Please post your question to WAMUG Mailing List for a quicker response.”
 
 2. Thank you for emailing me, but unfortunately I don't answer questions 
 from WAMUG “off list” anymore, as time does not permit me to.
   If you would like this followed up then please send it to the list. 
 Thanks.
 
 3.  “I give my time to WAMUG Mailing List ‘free’.
   If you wish me to answer ‘off list’ there will be a charge for my time, 
 which is *(based on 20 minute blocks) $30.”
 
 I don't need or want anymore Clients!  I'm too busy looking after the 
 Clients I have and doing as much as I possibly can on WAMUG Mailing List.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 On 10/06/2010, at 2:56 PM, Shay Telfer wrote:
 
 
 Perhaps add a message to the fact that you don't answer personal queries 
 next to your name in your e-mail signature?
 
 Alternatively set up a keyboard macro to auto-reply referring them back to 
 the mailing list.
 
 Or tell them your hourly e-mail consultation rate and ask if they'd like 
 to continue.
 
 Have fun,
 Shay
 
 On 10/06/2010, at 2:39 PM, Nicholas Pyers wrote:
 
 
 Not an idea solution... but why don't you setup yourself a separate email 
 address use on the WAMUG list... and keep a separate address for 'client 
 only' queries and responses (and never post that here)
 
 But the longer term solution is to kill the 'reply via email' option from 
 the archive.
 
 
 On 10/06/2010, at 1:45 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 Hello People,
 
 I have been receiving a lot of requests lately for my Tutorials from 
 people who are not members of WAMUG mailing list, and I wondered how 
 they all know about my Tutorials  have my email address?
 They are googling and getting my information from the WAMUG Mailing List 
 Archives.
 
 At the bottom of a message on the Archives is Reply via email to  
 name of the sender.
 How can I make my email address 'Private' (not to show) in the Archives, 
 so if people want my Tutorials or Support Help, they would need to go 
 through WAMUG Mailing List? … NOT directly to me!
 
 This is becoming a problem for me, as 'Offlist is reserved for my 
 clients. I don't have time to respond to all these people that are 
 'fleecing' my email address from WAMUG.  Google is fast becoming Not My 
 Friend ;-)
 





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Re: How to stop my email address from being public on WAMUG Mailing List Archives?

2010-06-11 Thread Stuart Breden


Agree.  Fortunately so far my address has not been poached by non-list  
users.


However I still feel that on the WAMUG list each user should be able  
to make his/her address accessible to who ever that person wants e.g.  
none, list only, general etc.


Stuart Breden
PO Box 132
Kalamunda WA 6926
Ph: (08) 9257 1577
Mbl: 0417 053 266



On 10/06/2010, at 4:15 PM, Susan Hastings wrote:



Hi, it seems we all have our email addresses available to anyone on  
the Internet through the WAMUG archives.  Most online forums that I  
use only allow access to participants' user names, and participants  
have a choice of being contactable via email. I'm not sure that  
anything can be done on to ensure greater privacy on this kind of  
email list. Cheers, Susan


Sent from my iPad

On 10/06/2010, at 3:20 PM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:



Hi Shay  Nicholas,

Thanks for your replies.

The emails are not coming from WAMUG Mailing List Members. They are  
coming from people who have used Google to search on a subject, and  
have been directed to my replies on the WAMUG Archives.
Where they then read my answers to questions on WAMUG Subjects and  
click 'reply via email'.


I do have email responses that I reply with, as below:

1.  “I’m sorry but I am unable to help you at this time.
   I am currently busy with Clients.
   Please post your question to WAMUG Mailing List for a quicker  
response.”


2. Thank you for emailing me, but unfortunately I don't answer  
questions from WAMUG “off list” anymore, as time does not permit me  
to.
   If you would like this followed up then please send it to the  
list. Thanks.


3.  “I give my time to WAMUG Mailing List ‘free’.
   If you wish me to answer ‘off list’ there will be a charge for  
my time, which is *(based on 20 minute blocks) $30.”


I don't need or want anymore Clients!  I'm too busy looking after  
the Clients I have and doing as much as I possibly can on WAMUG  
Mailing List.


Cheers,
Ronni

On 10/06/2010, at 2:56 PM, Shay Telfer wrote:



Perhaps add a message to the fact that you don't answer personal  
queries next to your name in your e-mail signature?


Alternatively set up a keyboard macro to auto-reply referring them  
back to the mailing list.


Or tell them your hourly e-mail consultation rate and ask if  
they'd like to continue.


Have fun,
Shay

On 10/06/2010, at 2:39 PM, Nicholas Pyers wrote:



Not an idea solution... but why don't you setup yourself a  
separate email address use on the WAMUG list... and keep a  
separate address for 'client only' queries and responses (and  
never post that here)


But the longer term solution is to kill the 'reply via email'  
option from the archive.



On 10/06/2010, at 1:45 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:

Hello People,

I have been receiving a lot of requests lately for my Tutorials  
from people who are not members of WAMUG mailing list, and I  
wondered how they all know about my Tutorials  have my email  
address?
They are googling and getting my information from the WAMUG  
Mailing List Archives.


At the bottom of a message on the Archives is Reply via email  
to  name of the sender.
How can I make my email address 'Private' (not to show) in the  
Archives, so if people want my Tutorials or Support Help, they  
would need to go through WAMUG Mailing List? … NOT directly to me!


This is becoming a problem for me, as 'Offlist is reserved for  
my clients. I don't have time to respond to all these people  
that are 'fleecing' my email address from WAMUG.  Google is fast  
becoming Not My Friend ;-)







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Re: How to stop my email address from being public on WAMUG Mailing List Archives?

2010-06-10 Thread Nicholas Pyers


Not an idea solution... but why don't you setup yourself a separate  
email address use on the WAMUG list... and keep a separate address for  
'client only' queries and responses (and never post that here)


But the longer term solution is to kill the 'reply via email' option  
from the archive.



On 10/06/2010, at 1:45 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:

Hello People,

I have been receiving a lot of requests lately for my Tutorials from  
people who are not members of WAMUG mailing list, and I wondered how  
they all know about my Tutorials  have my email address?
They are googling and getting my information from the WAMUG Mailing  
List Archives.


At the bottom of a message on the Archives is Reply via email to   
name of the sender.
How can I make my email address 'Private' (not to show) in the  
Archives, so if people want my Tutorials or Support Help, they would  
need to go through WAMUG Mailing List? … NOT directly to me!


This is becoming a problem for me, as 'Offlist is reserved for my  
clients. I don't have time to respond to all these people that are  
'fleecing' my email address from WAMUG.  Google is fast becoming  
Not My Friend ;-)





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Re: How to stop my email address from being public on WAMUG Mailing List Archives?

2010-06-10 Thread Shay Telfer

Perhaps add a message to the fact that you don't answer personal queries next 
to your name in your e-mail signature?

Alternatively set up a keyboard macro to auto-reply referring them back to the 
mailing list.

Or tell them your hourly e-mail consultation rate and ask if they'd like to 
continue.

Have fun,
Shay

On 10/06/2010, at 2:39 PM, Nicholas Pyers wrote:

 
 Not an idea solution... but why don't you setup yourself a separate email 
 address use on the WAMUG list... and keep a separate address for 'client 
 only' queries and responses (and never post that here)
 
 But the longer term solution is to kill the 'reply via email' option from the 
 archive.
 
 
 On 10/06/2010, at 1:45 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 Hello People,
 
 I have been receiving a lot of requests lately for my Tutorials from people 
 who are not members of WAMUG mailing list, and I wondered how they all know 
 about my Tutorials  have my email address?
 They are googling and getting my information from the WAMUG Mailing List 
 Archives.
 
 At the bottom of a message on the Archives is Reply via email to  name of 
 the sender.
 How can I make my email address 'Private' (not to show) in the Archives, so 
 if people want my Tutorials or Support Help, they would need to go through 
 WAMUG Mailing List? … NOT directly to me!
 
 This is becoming a problem for me, as 'Offlist is reserved for my clients. 
 I don't have time to respond to all these people that are 'fleecing' my 
 email address from WAMUG.  Google is fast becoming Not My Friend ;-)
 
 
 
 
 --
 Nicholas Pyers (nicho...@appleusers.org)
 Founder  Publisher, AppleUsers.org
 
 http://www.appleusers.org/
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: How to stop my email address from being public on WAMUG Mailing List Archives?

2010-06-10 Thread Ronda Brown

Hi Shay  Nicholas,

Thanks for your replies.

The emails are not coming from WAMUG Mailing List Members. They are coming from 
people who have used Google to search on a subject, and have been directed to 
my replies on the WAMUG Archives. 
Where they then read my answers to questions on WAMUG Subjects and click 'reply 
via email'.

I do have email responses that I reply with, as below:

1.  “I’m sorry but I am unable to help you at this time. 
 I am currently busy with Clients. 
 Please post your question to WAMUG Mailing List for a quicker response.”

2. Thank you for emailing me, but unfortunately I don't answer questions from 
WAMUG “off list” anymore, as time does not permit me to.
 If you would like this followed up then please send it to the list. 
Thanks. 

3.  “I give my time to WAMUG Mailing List ‘free’. 
 If you wish me to answer ‘off list’ there will be a charge for my time, 
which is *(based on 20 minute blocks) $30.” 

I don't need or want anymore Clients!  I'm too busy looking after the Clients I 
have and doing as much as I possibly can on WAMUG Mailing List.

Cheers,
Ronni

On 10/06/2010, at 2:56 PM, Shay Telfer wrote:

 
 Perhaps add a message to the fact that you don't answer personal queries next 
 to your name in your e-mail signature?
 
 Alternatively set up a keyboard macro to auto-reply referring them back to 
 the mailing list.
 
 Or tell them your hourly e-mail consultation rate and ask if they'd like to 
 continue.
 
 Have fun,
 Shay
 
 On 10/06/2010, at 2:39 PM, Nicholas Pyers wrote:
 
 
 Not an idea solution... but why don't you setup yourself a separate email 
 address use on the WAMUG list... and keep a separate address for 'client 
 only' queries and responses (and never post that here)
 
 But the longer term solution is to kill the 'reply via email' option from 
 the archive.
 
 
 On 10/06/2010, at 1:45 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 Hello People,
 
 I have been receiving a lot of requests lately for my Tutorials from people 
 who are not members of WAMUG mailing list, and I wondered how they all know 
 about my Tutorials  have my email address?
 They are googling and getting my information from the WAMUG Mailing List 
 Archives.
 
 At the bottom of a message on the Archives is Reply via email to  name 
 of the sender.
 How can I make my email address 'Private' (not to show) in the Archives, so 
 if people want my Tutorials or Support Help, they would need to go through 
 WAMUG Mailing List? … NOT directly to me!
 
 This is becoming a problem for me, as 'Offlist is reserved for my clients. 
 I don't have time to respond to all these people that are 'fleecing' my 
 email address from WAMUG.  Google is fast becoming Not My Friend ;-)
 
 



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Re: How to stop my email address from being public on WAMUG Mailing List Archives?

2010-06-10 Thread Susan Hastings

Hi, it seems we all have our email addresses available to anyone on the 
Internet through the WAMUG archives.  Most online forums that I use only allow 
access to participants' user names, and participants have a choice of being 
contactable via email. I'm not sure that anything can be done on to ensure 
greater privacy on this kind of email list. Cheers, Susan

Sent from my iPad

On 10/06/2010, at 3:20 PM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:

 
 Hi Shay  Nicholas,
 
 Thanks for your replies.
 
 The emails are not coming from WAMUG Mailing List Members. They are coming 
 from people who have used Google to search on a subject, and have been 
 directed to my replies on the WAMUG Archives. 
 Where they then read my answers to questions on WAMUG Subjects and click 
 'reply via email'.
 
 I do have email responses that I reply with, as below:
 
 1.  “I’m sorry but I am unable to help you at this time. 
 I am currently busy with Clients. 
 Please post your question to WAMUG Mailing List for a quicker response.”
 
 2. Thank you for emailing me, but unfortunately I don't answer questions 
 from WAMUG “off list” anymore, as time does not permit me to.
 If you would like this followed up then please send it to the list. 
 Thanks. 
 
 3.  “I give my time to WAMUG Mailing List ‘free’. 
 If you wish me to answer ‘off list’ there will be a charge for my time, 
 which is *(based on 20 minute blocks) $30.” 
 
 I don't need or want anymore Clients!  I'm too busy looking after the Clients 
 I have and doing as much as I possibly can on WAMUG Mailing List.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 On 10/06/2010, at 2:56 PM, Shay Telfer wrote:
 
 
 Perhaps add a message to the fact that you don't answer personal queries 
 next to your name in your e-mail signature?
 
 Alternatively set up a keyboard macro to auto-reply referring them back to 
 the mailing list.
 
 Or tell them your hourly e-mail consultation rate and ask if they'd like to 
 continue.
 
 Have fun,
 Shay
 
 On 10/06/2010, at 2:39 PM, Nicholas Pyers wrote:
 
 
 Not an idea solution... but why don't you setup yourself a separate email 
 address use on the WAMUG list... and keep a separate address for 'client 
 only' queries and responses (and never post that here)
 
 But the longer term solution is to kill the 'reply via email' option from 
 the archive.
 
 
 On 10/06/2010, at 1:45 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 Hello People,
 
 I have been receiving a lot of requests lately for my Tutorials from 
 people who are not members of WAMUG mailing list, and I wondered how they 
 all know about my Tutorials  have my email address?
 They are googling and getting my information from the WAMUG Mailing List 
 Archives.
 
 At the bottom of a message on the Archives is Reply via email to  name 
 of the sender.
 How can I make my email address 'Private' (not to show) in the Archives, 
 so if people want my Tutorials or Support Help, they would need to go 
 through WAMUG Mailing List? … NOT directly to me!
 
 This is becoming a problem for me, as 'Offlist is reserved for my 
 clients. I don't have time to respond to all these people that are 
 'fleecing' my email address from WAMUG.  Google is fast becoming Not My 
 Friend ;-)
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: How to stop my email address from being public on WAMUG Mailing List Archives?

2010-06-10 Thread Pete Smith

G'day Ronni.

I've just had a look at the archives. I didn't even know that ability existed - 
obviously I've never scrolled down that far. I agree with you in that it should 
not be there unless we want it or not at all.

I can't offer any helpful solution but I'll bring it up at the committee 
meeting next week anyway.

(I just tested an archive of mine and pressed the reply button and all my email 
addresses came up including my 'secret' one. I'm assuming it was only because I 
opened it on my iMac and it just added the extra addresses from Address Book 
in. What a helpful little iMac it is!!)

Pete Smith

iMac 2.8 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
4GB 800 MHz DDR2 SDRAM
750GB Hdrive (mostly full with TV shows!); OS X 10.6.3

On 10/06/2010, at 11:45 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:

 
 Hello People,
 
 I have been receiving a lot of requests lately for my Tutorials from people 
 who are not members of WAMUG mailing list, and I wondered how they all know 
 about my Tutorials  have my email address?
 They are googling and getting my information from the WAMUG Mailing List 
 Archives.
 
 At the bottom of a message on the Archives is Reply via email to  name of 
 the sender.
 How can I make my email address 'Private' (not to show) in the Archives, so 
 if people want my Tutorials or Support Help, they would need to go through 
 WAMUG Mailing List? … NOT directly to me!
 
 This is becoming a problem for me, as 'Offlist is reserved for my clients. I 
 don't have time to respond to all these people that are 'fleecing' my email 
 address from WAMUG.  Google is fast becoming Not My Friend ;-)
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 17 MacBook Pro  Intel Core i7
 2.66GHz / 4GB / 1067 MHz DDR3 / 500GB Serial ATA Drive @ 7200rpm
 
 OS X 10.6.3 Snow Leopard
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Re: How to stop my email address from being public on WAMUG Mailing List Archives?

2010-06-09 Thread James / Hans Kunz

that's weird, every email you send has the following:
From: ro...@mac.com
	Subject: 	How to stop my email  address from being public on WAMUG  
Mailing List Archives?

Date:   10 June 2010 11:45:17 GMT+08:00
To:   wamug@wamug.org.au
Reply-To: wamug@wamug.org.au

in the header

may be you can establish a
ro...@wamug.org.au
 the server holds a secret redirect link  marking so your email  
client can put wamug mails in a seperate folder  (prevent clogging up  
the wamug system)

or use a spec adress/account when processing wamug stuff

so don't be surprised
James


On 10/06/2010, at 11:45, Ronda Brown wrote:



Hello People,

I have been receiving a lot of requests lately for my Tutorials  
from people who are not members of WAMUG mailing list, and I  
wondered how they all know about my Tutorials  have my email address?
They are googling and getting my information from the WAMUG Mailing  
List Archives.


At the bottom of a message on the Archives is Reply via email to  
 name of the sender.
How can I make my email address 'Private' (not to show) in the  
Archives, so if people want my Tutorials or Support Help, they  
would need to go through WAMUG Mailing List? … NOT directly to me!


This is becoming a problem for me, as 'Offlist is reserved for my  
clients. I don't have time to respond to all these people that are  
'fleecing' my email address from WAMUG.  Google is fast becoming  
Not My Friend ;-)


Cheers,
Ronni

17 MacBook Pro  Intel Core i7
2.66GHz / 4GB / 1067 MHz DDR3 / 500GB Serial ATA Drive @ 7200rpm

OS X 10.6.3 Snow Leopard
Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)






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