Re: ICloud vs computer backup
Hi Pete, Just adding to Daniel's reply below - Re: Mavericks- Migrating From a Windows PC Using Migration Assistant It will be faster if you use Ethernet Make sure the PC and the Mac are on the same Wi-Fi or (better yet) Ethernet network. I will email you Offlist a 3 page PDF I have created 'Migrate From A Windows PC to Mavericks - Mac Computer.pdf' which you might find a helpful addition with also reading the Apple Support link that Daniel has included below. Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD OS X 10.9 Mavericks Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance) On 11 Nov 2013, at 8:26 pm, Daniel Kerr wa...@macwizardry.com.au wrote: Hi Pete If your Windoze machine is on the same network, you can actually just migrate from it to the Mac. It will transfer your data, but none of your Applications obviously. Basically, long story short, all the Windoze My folders will go to the equivalent Mac folders (e.g. My Pictures goes to Pictures, My Documents goes to Documents. Desktop to Desktop, My Music to Music. So the iTunes library will just be there already. This is generally the easiest way to get it all across. If you didn't want to do it that way, then you'd do the same manual type of transfer as above (e.g. My Music on Windows to Music folder on the Mac). When you open iTunes, it will just adjust it to be Mac friendly. But all your music and playlists etc will be the same. I've done a few transfers for clients when supplying the new gear and transferred it from their Windoze machines for them. Has (generally) been a simple transfer. (sometimes with a bit of a clean up or manual transfer on top just for things missed or not gone to plan.) But overall quite easy. This link may help also - http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4796?viewlocale=en_USlocale=en_US Hope that helps. Kind regards Daniel --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel AT macwizardry.com.au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Apple** -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: ICloud vs computer backup
Thanks Ronni, I got the PDF and will review. Regards Pete On 13 Nov 2013, at 4:03 pm, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi Pete, Just adding to Daniel's reply below - Re: Mavericks- Migrating From a Windows PC Using Migration Assistant It will be faster if you use Ethernet Make sure the PC and the Mac are on the same Wi-Fi or (better yet) Ethernet network. I will email you Offlist a 3 page PDF I have created 'Migrate From A Windows PC to Mavericks - Mac Computer.pdf' which you might find a helpful addition with also reading the Apple Support link that Daniel has included below. Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD OS X 10.9 Mavericks Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance) On 11 Nov 2013, at 8:26 pm, Daniel Kerr wa...@macwizardry.com.au wrote: Hi Pete If your Windoze machine is on the same network, you can actually just migrate from it to the Mac. It will transfer your data, but none of your Applications obviously. Basically, long story short, all the Windoze My folders will go to the equivalent Mac folders (e.g. My Pictures goes to Pictures, My Documents goes to Documents. Desktop to Desktop, My Music to Music. So the iTunes library will just be there already. This is generally the easiest way to get it all across. If you didn't want to do it that way, then you'd do the same manual type of transfer as above (e.g. My Music on Windows to Music folder on the Mac). When you open iTunes, it will just adjust it to be Mac friendly. But all your music and playlists etc will be the same. I've done a few transfers for clients when supplying the new gear and transferred it from their Windoze machines for them. Has (generally) been a simple transfer. (sometimes with a bit of a clean up or manual transfer on top just for things missed or not gone to plan.) But overall quite easy. This link may help also - http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4796?viewlocale=en_USlocale=en_US Hope that helps. Kind regards Daniel --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel AT macwizardry.com.au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Apple** -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: ICloud vs computer backup
Good Morning Ronni, That PDF seems interesting. Would it be possible to get a copy off list? Thanks John On 13 Nov 2013, at 4:03 pm, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi Pete, Just adding to Daniel's reply below - Re: Mavericks- Migrating From a Windows PC Using Migration Assistant It will be faster if you use Ethernet Make sure the PC and the Mac are on the same Wi-Fi or (better yet) Ethernet network. I will email you Offlist a 3 page PDF I have created 'Migrate From A Windows PC to Mavericks - Mac Computer.pdf' which you might find a helpful addition with also reading the Apple Support link that Daniel has included below. Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD OS X 10.9 Mavericks Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance) On 11 Nov 2013, at 8:26 pm, Daniel Kerr wa...@macwizardry.com.au wrote: Hi Pete If your Windoze machine is on the same network, you can actually just migrate from it to the Mac. It will transfer your data, but none of your Applications obviously. Basically, long story short, all the Windoze My folders will go to the equivalent Mac folders (e.g. My Pictures goes to Pictures, My Documents goes to Documents. Desktop to Desktop, My Music to Music. So the iTunes library will just be there already. This is generally the easiest way to get it all across. If you didn't want to do it that way, then you'd do the same manual type of transfer as above (e.g. My Music on Windows to Music folder on the Mac). When you open iTunes, it will just adjust it to be Mac friendly. But all your music and playlists etc will be the same. I've done a few transfers for clients when supplying the new gear and transferred it from their Windoze machines for them. Has (generally) been a simple transfer. (sometimes with a bit of a clean up or manual transfer on top just for things missed or not gone to plan.) But overall quite easy. This link may help also - http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4796?viewlocale=en_USlocale=en_US Hope that helps. Kind regards Daniel --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel AT macwizardry.com.au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Apple** -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: ICloud vs computer backup
Hello John, I have sent the PDF to you Offlist. Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 14 Nov 2013, at 7:11 am, John Thompson jet...@iprimus.com.au wrote: Good Morning Ronni, That PDF seems interesting. Would it be possible to get a copy off list? Thanks John -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: ICloud vs computer backup
Ok, thanks for that extensive response Ronni. I am clear on this now and will keep this to review the links over the next few days. With migration from Windows to OSX iTunes, are the folder and file contents compatible between the two platforms by simply picking them up and dropping them across to the new machine? Yes I will buy a new Macbook so definitely Mavericks (or the next iteration if I don't drag my feet too long and Apple releases the next one). Regards Pete On 11 Nov 2013, at 1:03 pm, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi Peter, iTunes does NOT backup your iTunes Library - iCloud does NOT backup your iTunes Library. You use Time Machine or the backup program you are using to backup your complete system. iTunes or iCloud can backup your iPhone/iPad (iOS Devices) iTunes creates a Backup of your iPhone/iPad (iOS Devices) then syncs information. About iCloud Storage iCloud includes 5 GB of free storage space, and you can buy more if that’s not enough (an additional 10 GB for $20 per year, 20 GB for $40 per year, or 50 GB for $100 per year). Apple makes a big deal about how far that free 5 GB will go, and how it should be enough for most users. In reality, the situation is more complex than it appears. On the positive side, many types of data you may want to store in iCloud don’t count against that 5 GB limit. For example, purchases from the iTunes Store—music, TV shows, movies, apps, and books— don’t take up any of your personal space, because Apple already has copies of all that data on their servers. Photos in your Photo Stream don’t count either, no matter how many you have or what their resolution is, presumably because that data stays in the cloud only temporarily. That leaves email (including attachments), documents, and—if you’ve enabled iCloud Backups—the photos in the Camera Roll from each of your devices, personal settings, app data, and a few other items that would appear at first glance to occupy little space altogether. But those backups turn out to be a bigger deal than you might think. iCloud doesn’t require you to back up iOS devices to the cloud; you can continue backing them up to your Mac. On 10 Nov 2013, at 1:58 pm, Peter Crisp petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote: Hi, I’ve a basic question about how iTunes works. When you have an idevice attached to a computer with iTunes, one has the choice of selecting for Backups Either “iCloud” OR “This Computer”. I have a music/video library around 230GB and so I choose to have it on an external drive to which the iTunes library path is pointed. I am using iTunes on a Windows 7 laptop and have for many years, but soon to migrate it all to a Macbook Pro probably still on an external drive (I can’t wait!! My question is, if I choose in iTunes to backup to “This Computer”, then does that preclude using iCloud for any backups for lesser voluminous data – say contacts, calendar etc? I’m not going to pay for 250GB of iCloud storage. Can one toggle between the two settings as you please? If it can be done, what are the upsides to this backup process in two places and downsides if any? You can set things to backup automatically either to your computer (iTunes) or to iCloud, but not both. If you choose automatic backup to this computer in iTunes, and then set the preference on the iPhone to automatically back up to iCloud, it will warn you that you are no longer automatically backing up to your computer (and next time you look in iTunes, the setting to automatic iCloud backups will have automatically updated from your iPhone setting, or the other way around). Regardless of which you chose in iTunes for automatically backup, you can manually backup to your computer (iTunes) from iTunes using the Backup Now button. You can manually backup to iCloud from your iPhone Settings iCloud Storage Backup Backup Now (button at the bottom). Backing up to iCloud you use the iPhone not iTunes. On your new MacBook Pro I assume will be running Mavericks? Mavericks no longer includes Sync Services. “Most users won’t even notice it’s gone, but it will affect people who still use older versions of apps that rely on this mechanism to sync data with iOS devices” “The loss of Sync Services also means that you can no longer use iTunes (via Wi-Fi or USB) to sync calendars, contacts, and notes between your Mac and iOS devices. You must instead use a server-based system of some sort on both your Mac and iOS devices, which could be (among other options) iCloud, Google, an Exchange server” “You can still sync media, apps, and documents with iOS devices via iTunes, —this change affects only calendars, contacts, and notes.” This article overviews what is included in the iCloud backup: http://support.apple.com/kb/PH12519?viewlocale=en_US iOS: How to back up and restore your content
Re: ICloud vs computer backup
Hi Pete If your Windoze machine is on the same network, you can actually just migrate from it to the Mac. It will transfer your data, but none of your Applications obviously. Basically, long story short, all the Windoze My folders will go to the equivalent Mac folders (e.g. My Pictures goes to Pictures, My Documents goes to Documents. Desktop to Desktop, My Music to Music. So the iTunes library will just be there already. This is generally the easiest way to get it all across. If you didn't want to do it that way, then you'd do the same manual type of transfer as above (e.g. My Music on Windows to Music folder on the Mac). When you open iTunes, it will just adjust it to be Mac friendly. But all your music and playlists etc will be the same. I've done a few transfers for clients when supplying the new gear and transferred it from their Windoze machines for them. Has (generally) been a simple transfer. (sometimes with a bit of a clean up or manual transfer on top just for things missed or not gone to plan.) But overall quite easy. This link may help also - http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4796?viewlocale=en_USlocale=en_US Hope that helps. Kind regards Daniel --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel AT macwizardry.com.au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Apple** NOTE: Any information provided in this email may be my personal opinion and as such should be taken accordingly, and may not be the views of MacWizardry. Any information provided does not offer or warrant any form of warranty or accept liability. It would be appreciated that if any information in this email is to be disseminated, distributed or copied, that permission by the author be requested. On 11/11/2013, at 7:36 PM, Peter Crisp petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote: Ok, thanks for that extensive response Ronni. I am clear on this now and will keep this to review the links over the next few days. With migration from Windows to OSX iTunes, are the folder and file contents compatible between the two platforms by simply picking them up and dropping them across to the new machine? Yes I will buy a new Macbook so definitely Mavericks (or the next iteration if I don't drag my feet too long and Apple releases the next one). Regards Pete On 11 Nov 2013, at 1:03 pm, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi Peter, iTunes does NOT backup your iTunes Library - iCloud does NOT backup your iTunes Library. You use Time Machine or the backup program you are using to backup your complete system. iTunes or iCloud can backup your iPhone/iPad (iOS Devices) iTunes creates a Backup of your iPhone/iPad (iOS Devices) then syncs information. About iCloud Storage iCloud includes 5 GB of free storage space, and you can buy more if that’s not enough (an additional 10 GB for $20 per year, 20 GB for $40 per year, or 50 GB for $100 per year). Apple makes a big deal about how far that free 5 GB will go, and how it should be enough for most users. In reality, the situation is more complex than it appears. On the positive side, many types of data you may want to store in iCloud don’t count against that 5 GB limit. For example, purchases from the iTunes Store—music, TV shows, movies, apps, and books— don’t take up any of your personal space, because Apple already has copies of all that data on their servers. Photos in your Photo Stream don’t count either, no matter how many you have or what their resolution is, presumably because that data stays in the cloud only temporarily. That leaves email (including attachments), documents, and—if you’ve enabled iCloud Backups—the photos in the Camera Roll from each of your devices, personal settings, app data, and a few other items that would appear at first glance to occupy little space altogether. But those backups turn out to be a bigger deal than you might think. iCloud doesn’t require you to back up iOS devices to the cloud; you can continue backing them up to your Mac. On 10 Nov 2013, at 1:58 pm, Peter Crisp petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote: Hi, I’ve a basic question about how iTunes works. When you have an idevice attached to a computer with iTunes, one has the choice of selecting for Backups Either “iCloud” OR “This Computer”. I have a music/video library around 230GB and so I choose to have it on an external drive to which the iTunes library path is pointed. I am using iTunes on a Windows 7 laptop and have for many years, but soon to migrate it all to a Macbook Pro probably still on an external drive (I can’t wait!! My question is, if I choose in iTunes to backup to “This Computer”, then does that preclude using iCloud for any backups for lesser voluminous data – say contacts, calendar etc? I’m not going to pay for 250GB of iCloud storage. Can one toggle between the two settings as you please? If it can be done, what are the upsides to this backup process in two
Re: ICloud vs computer backup
Thanks for that Daniel. The 'over network' transfer sounds appealing. When you say data is transferred is that just the iOS backed up data or music library as well? If it's the whole library, I would need another external to drive to pick up the 230GB library at the destination machine - if the library is included in this transfer. Regards Pete On 11 Nov 2013, at 8:26 pm, Daniel Kerr wa...@macwizardry.com.au wrote: Hi Pete If your Windoze machine is on the same network, you can actually just migrate from it to the Mac. It will transfer your data, but none of your Applications obviously. Basically, long story short, all the Windoze My folders will go to the equivalent Mac folders (e.g. My Pictures goes to Pictures, My Documents goes to Documents. Desktop to Desktop, My Music to Music. So the iTunes library will just be there already. This is generally the easiest way to get it all across. If you didn't want to do it that way, then you'd do the same manual type of transfer as above (e.g. My Music on Windows to Music folder on the Mac). When you open iTunes, it will just adjust it to be Mac friendly. But all your music and playlists etc will be the same. I've done a few transfers for clients when supplying the new gear and transferred it from their Windoze machines for them. Has (generally) been a simple transfer. (sometimes with a bit of a clean up or manual transfer on top just for things missed or not gone to plan.) But overall quite easy. This link may help also - http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4796?viewlocale=en_USlocale=en_US Hope that helps. Kind regards Daniel --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel AT macwizardry.com.au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Apple** NOTE: Any information provided in this email may be my personal opinion and as such should be taken accordingly, and may not be the views of MacWizardry. Any information provided does not offer or warrant any form of warranty or accept liability. It would be appreciated that if any information in this email is to be disseminated, distributed or copied, that permission by the author be requested. On 11/11/2013, at 7:36 PM, Peter Crisp petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote: Ok, thanks for that extensive response Ronni. I am clear on this now and will keep this to review the links over the next few days. With migration from Windows to OSX iTunes, are the folder and file contents compatible between the two platforms by simply picking them up and dropping them across to the new machine? Yes I will buy a new Macbook so definitely Mavericks (or the next iteration if I don't drag my feet too long and Apple releases the next one). Regards Pete On 11 Nov 2013, at 1:03 pm, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi Peter, iTunes does NOT backup your iTunes Library - iCloud does NOT backup your iTunes Library. You use Time Machine or the backup program you are using to backup your complete system. iTunes or iCloud can backup your iPhone/iPad (iOS Devices) iTunes creates a Backup of your iPhone/iPad (iOS Devices) then syncs information. About iCloud Storage iCloud includes 5 GB of free storage space, and you can buy more if that’s not enough (an additional 10 GB for $20 per year, 20 GB for $40 per year, or 50 GB for $100 per year). Apple makes a big deal about how far that free 5 GB will go, and how it should be enough for most users. In reality, the situation is more complex than it appears. On the positive side, many types of data you may want to store in iCloud don’t count against that 5 GB limit. For example, purchases from the iTunes Store—music, TV shows, movies, apps, and books— don’t take up any of your personal space, because Apple already has copies of all that data on their servers. Photos in your Photo Stream don’t count either, no matter how many you have or what their resolution is, presumably because that data stays in the cloud only temporarily. That leaves email (including attachments), documents, and—if you’ve enabled iCloud Backups—the photos in the Camera Roll from each of your devices, personal settings, app data, and a few other items that would appear at first glance to occupy little space altogether. But those backups turn out to be a bigger deal than you might think. iCloud doesn’t require you to back up iOS devices to the cloud; you can continue backing them up to your Mac. On 10 Nov 2013, at 1:58 pm, Peter Crisp petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote: Hi, I’ve a basic question about how iTunes works. When you have an idevice attached to a computer with iTunes, one has the choice of selecting for Backups Either “iCloud” OR “This Computer”. I have a music/video library around 230GB and so I choose to have it on an external drive to which the iTunes library path is pointed. I am using iTunes on a Windows 7 laptop and have for
Re: ICloud vs computer backup
Hi Pete Any of your data on your Windows machine that you want transferred will transfer over to the new Mac that you get. If you're using an external drive for your music like you mentioned, then you don't really need to do anything. All you do is plug the external drive into the Mac and then start with the Option key held down. iTunes will then ask please choose the Library you want to use. You then point it to the iTunes library on the external drive. It will then work with the files there. The one downside or caveat may be dependant on how the drive is formatted. As the Mac *may* say,..hey, I can't write to this drive, so sorry I can't use it. (It probably won't say it like that of course,…hehe). But a) the migration won't take the data from the external drive, it's solely going to transfer the data from the Windows OS drive (i.e. your data) and b) the external drive should then just carry along as normal on the Mac drive for your iTunes Library using the above method (dependant on format of course). But it will advise that. But yes, if the format is different so it can't read/write to it, then you may need another drive to transfer it to. In which case you can then get a large drive, reformat it for the Mac then transfer the data from your original drive to the newly created drive and then use the same steps above. I do this regularly while I'm creating my Media Drive. By default my laptop has it's own iTunes Library, whereas the Media Drive is what I'm working on while setting it up with all the data for the house. When I want to change back and forwards, I just Quit iTunes and open it again with the Option key and Choose Library. It then just switches between the two no problems at all. Sometimes this can be good, as I've set something up for a family. They had the family safe main iTunes Library with all kid friendly stuff on it. Then they Option start iTunes for the horror movies and full on action movies. (or swear words). That way the kids don't accidentally start playing something they shouldn't. They just store those on a little portable drive that they can move from machine to machine to machine. Works quite well ;) Hope that helps a little more. Kind regards Daniel --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel AT macwizardry.com.au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Apple** NOTE: Any information provided in this email may be my personal opinion and as such should be taken accordingly, and may not be the views of MacWizardry. Any information provided does not offer or warrant any form of warranty or accept liability. It would be appreciated that if any information in this email is to be disseminated, distributed or copied, that permission by the author be requested. On 11/11/2013, at 8:36 PM, Peter Crisp petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote: Thanks for that Daniel. The 'over network' transfer sounds appealing. When you say data is transferred is that just the iOS backed up data or music library as well? If it's the whole library, I would need another external to drive to pick up the 230GB library at the destination machine - if the library is included in this transfer. Regards Pete On 11 Nov 2013, at 8:26 pm, Daniel Kerr wa...@macwizardry.com.au wrote: Hi Pete If your Windoze machine is on the same network, you can actually just migrate from it to the Mac. It will transfer your data, but none of your Applications obviously. Basically, long story short, all the Windoze My folders will go to the equivalent Mac folders (e.g. My Pictures goes to Pictures, My Documents goes to Documents. Desktop to Desktop, My Music to Music. So the iTunes library will just be there already. This is generally the easiest way to get it all across. If you didn't want to do it that way, then you'd do the same manual type of transfer as above (e.g. My Music on Windows to Music folder on the Mac). When you open iTunes, it will just adjust it to be Mac friendly. But all your music and playlists etc will be the same. I've done a few transfers for clients when supplying the new gear and transferred it from their Windoze machines for them. Has (generally) been a simple transfer. (sometimes with a bit of a clean up or manual transfer on top just for things missed or not gone to plan.) But overall quite easy. This link may help also - http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4796?viewlocale=en_USlocale=en_US Hope that helps. Kind regards Daniel --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel AT macwizardry.com.au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Apple** NOTE: Any information provided in this email may be my personal opinion and as such should be taken accordingly, and may not be the views of MacWizardry. Any information provided does not offer or warrant any form of warranty or accept liability. It would be appreciated that if any information in
Re: ICloud vs computer backup
Yep, that helps Daniel. Thanks for that. I formatted the drive to be Win and OSX compatible (I can't remember) but it works in both. As we're pretty much a Apple household, but my work insists on Win machines and so 'my' only machine is Windows - until I get my MBP 13 Retina. So I will do as you say upon the very first opening of iTunes on the new machine. Regards Pete On 11 Nov 2013, at 8:46 pm, Daniel Kerr wa...@macwizardry.com.au wrote: Hi Pete Any of your data on your Windows machine that you want transferred will transfer over to the new Mac that you get. If you're using an external drive for your music like you mentioned, then you don't really need to do anything. All you do is plug the external drive into the Mac and then start with the Option key held down. iTunes will then ask please choose the Library you want to use. You then point it to the iTunes library on the external drive. It will then work with the files there. The one downside or caveat may be dependant on how the drive is formatted. As the Mac *may* say,..hey, I can't write to this drive, so sorry I can't use it. (It probably won't say it like that of course,…hehe). But a) the migration won't take the data from the external drive, it's solely going to transfer the data from the Windows OS drive (i.e. your data) and b) the external drive should then just carry along as normal on the Mac drive for your iTunes Library using the above method (dependant on format of course). But it will advise that. But yes, if the format is different so it can't read/write to it, then you may need another drive to transfer it to. In which case you can then get a large drive, reformat it for the Mac then transfer the data from your original drive to the newly created drive and then use the same steps above. I do this regularly while I'm creating my Media Drive. By default my laptop has it's own iTunes Library, whereas the Media Drive is what I'm working on while setting it up with all the data for the house. When I want to change back and forwards, I just Quit iTunes and open it again with the Option key and Choose Library. It then just switches between the two no problems at all. Sometimes this can be good, as I've set something up for a family. They had the family safe main iTunes Library with all kid friendly stuff on it. Then they Option start iTunes for the horror movies and full on action movies. (or swear words). That way the kids don't accidentally start playing something they shouldn't. They just store those on a little portable drive that they can move from machine to machine to machine. Works quite well ;) Hope that helps a little more. Kind regards Daniel --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel AT macwizardry.com.au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Apple** NOTE: Any information provided in this email may be my personal opinion and as such should be taken accordingly, and may not be the views of MacWizardry. Any information provided does not offer or warrant any form of warranty or accept liability. It would be appreciated that if any information in this email is to be disseminated, distributed or copied, that permission by the author be requested. On 11/11/2013, at 8:36 PM, Peter Crisp petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote: Thanks for that Daniel. The 'over network' transfer sounds appealing. When you say data is transferred is that just the iOS backed up data or music library as well? If it's the whole library, I would need another external to drive to pick up the 230GB library at the destination machine - if the library is included in this transfer. Regards Pete On 11 Nov 2013, at 8:26 pm, Daniel Kerr wa...@macwizardry.com.au wrote: Hi Pete If your Windoze machine is on the same network, you can actually just migrate from it to the Mac. It will transfer your data, but none of your Applications obviously. Basically, long story short, all the Windoze My folders will go to the equivalent Mac folders (e.g. My Pictures goes to Pictures, My Documents goes to Documents. Desktop to Desktop, My Music to Music. So the iTunes library will just be there already. This is generally the easiest way to get it all across. If you didn't want to do it that way, then you'd do the same manual type of transfer as above (e.g. My Music on Windows to Music folder on the Mac). When you open iTunes, it will just adjust it to be Mac friendly. But all your music and playlists etc will be the same. I've done a few transfers for clients when supplying the new gear and transferred it from their Windoze machines for them. Has (generally) been a simple transfer. (sometimes with a bit of a clean up or manual transfer on top just for things missed or not gone to plan.) But overall quite easy. This link may help also -
Re: ICloud vs computer backup
Hi Peter, iTunes does NOT backup your iTunes Library - iCloud does NOT backup your iTunes Library. You use Time Machine or the backup program you are using to backup your complete system. iTunes or iCloud can backup your iPhone/iPad (iOS Devices) iTunes creates a Backup of your iPhone/iPad (iOS Devices) then syncs information. About iCloud Storage iCloud includes 5 GB of free storage space, and you can buy more if that’s not enough (an additional 10 GB for $20 per year, 20 GB for $40 per year, or 50 GB for $100 per year). Apple makes a big deal about how far that free 5 GB will go, and how it should be enough for most users. In reality, the situation is more complex than it appears. On the positive side, many types of data you may want to store in iCloud don’t count against that 5 GB limit. For example, purchases from the iTunes Store—music, TV shows, movies, apps, and books— don’t take up any of your personal space, because Apple already has copies of all that data on their servers. Photos in your Photo Stream don’t count either, no matter how many you have or what their resolution is, presumably because that data stays in the cloud only temporarily. That leaves email (including attachments), documents, and—if you’ve enabled iCloud Backups—the photos in the Camera Roll from each of your devices, personal settings, app data, and a few other items that would appear at first glance to occupy little space altogether. But those backups turn out to be a bigger deal than you might think. iCloud doesn’t require you to back up iOS devices to the cloud; you can continue backing them up to your Mac. On 10 Nov 2013, at 1:58 pm, Peter Crisp petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote: Hi, I’ve a basic question about how iTunes works. When you have an idevice attached to a computer with iTunes, one has the choice of selecting for Backups Either “iCloud” OR “This Computer”. I have a music/video library around 230GB and so I choose to have it on an external drive to which the iTunes library path is pointed. I am using iTunes on a Windows 7 laptop and have for many years, but soon to migrate it all to a Macbook Pro probably still on an external drive (I can’t wait!! My question is, if I choose in iTunes to backup to “This Computer”, then does that preclude using iCloud for any backups for lesser voluminous data – say contacts, calendar etc? I’m not going to pay for 250GB of iCloud storage. Can one toggle between the two settings as you please? If it can be done, what are the upsides to this backup process in two places and downsides if any? You can set things to backup automatically either to your computer (iTunes) or to iCloud, but not both. If you choose automatic backup to this computer in iTunes, and then set the preference on the iPhone to automatically back up to iCloud, it will warn you that you are no longer automatically backing up to your computer (and next time you look in iTunes, the setting to automatic iCloud backups will have automatically updated from your iPhone setting, or the other way around). Regardless of which you chose in iTunes for automatically backup, you can manually backup to your computer (iTunes) from iTunes using the Backup Now button. You can manually backup to iCloud from your iPhone Settings iCloud Storage Backup Backup Now (button at the bottom). Backing up to iCloud you use the iPhone not iTunes. On your new MacBook Pro I assume will be running Mavericks? Mavericks no longer includes Sync Services. “Most users won’t even notice it’s gone, but it will affect people who still use older versions of apps that rely on this mechanism to sync data with iOS devices” “The loss of Sync Services also means that you can no longer use iTunes (via Wi-Fi or USB) to sync calendars, contacts, and notes between your Mac and iOS devices. You must instead use a server-based system of some sort on both your Mac and iOS devices, which could be (among other options) iCloud, Google, an Exchange server” “You can still sync media, apps, and documents with iOS devices via iTunes, —this change affects only calendars, contacts, and notes.” This article overviews what is included in the iCloud backup: http://support.apple.com/kb/PH12519?viewlocale=en_US iOS: How to back up and restore your content http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1766 Syncing: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1386?viewlocale=en_US Choosing an iOS backup method (Should I use iTunes or iCloud to back up my iOS device?) http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5262 I have an iPhone 4 using iOS 7.0.3 and iTunes 11.1.2.32 on the Windows 7 heap. Also, is the process of migrating iTunes from Windows to OSX straight forward and hassle free? Update your iTunes on Windows to current version 11.1.3.8 http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1615?viewlocale=en_USlocale=en_US iTunes is basically the same application on both Mac and Windows. As long as you had the Windows iTunes Media folder
ICloud vs computer backup
Hi, I’ve a basic question about how iTunes works. When you have an idevice attached to a computer with iTunes, one has the choice of selecting for Backups Either “iCloud” OR “This Computer”. I have a music/video library around 230GB and so I choose to have it on an external drive to which the iTunes library path is pointed. I am using iTunes on a Windows 7 laptop and have for many years, but soon to migrate it all to a Macbook Pro probably still on an external drive (I can’t wait!!). My question is, if I choose in iTunes to backup to “This Computer”, then does that preclude using iCloud for any backups for lesser voluminous data – say contacts, calendar etc? I’m not going to pay for 250GB of iCloud storage. Can one toggle between the two settings as you please? If it can be done, what are the upsides to this backup process in two places and downsides if any? I have an iPhone 4 using iOS 7.0.3 and iTunes 11.1.2.32 on the Windows 7 heap. Also, is the process of migrating iTunes from Windows to OSX straight forward and hassle free? Regards Pete-- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
