Re: Mac getting forgetful

[Peter Hinchliffe]

On 30/08/2013, at 4:28 PM, Pat  wrote:

> I have been following Ronni's suggestion that I close applications with 
> Command Option Q (haven't had any more episodes of 'forgetfulness' by the 
> Mac). I just wanted to mention that there are a few applications that do not 
> respond to that command, namely iTunes and Photoshop CS6. Just another 
> oddity, I guess.
> 
> Thanks for the help!
> Pat
> 


It really depends on whether or not an application can create documents or not, 
or more precisely, multiple windows. Th rules can appear to be a little 
inconsistent sometimes, but this the general rule. 

Note that Cmd-Option-Q means "Quit and close all windows", whereas the simpler 
Cmd-Q quits the application, but any open windows are remembered, and opened 
automatically the next time you run the application. It's also important to 
understand that all of this only applies to Lion (Max OS X 10.7) and later. In 
previous versions, quitting an application automatically closed all open 
windows.

iTunes and others such as Preview, System Preferences, etc, do not support the 
opening of multiple windows, so Cmd-Option-Q is not an option. Just use Cmd-Q. 

Photoshop (and other Adobe fare), along with products from Microsoft, lives in 
its own world, so many things that work in standard Mac OS X software do not 
necessarily apply.  

Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
Perth, Western Australia
Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948

Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to.

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Re: Mac getting forgetful

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Pat,

Not all Applications will respond to the same keyboard shortcut commands.

For example; iTunes 11 & iPhoto will NOT respond to "Command-Option-Q" to Quit, 
they only will respond to "Command-Q".

Cheers,
Ronni

Sent from Ronni's iPad4

On 30/08/2013, at 4:28 PM, Pat  wrote:

> I have been following Ronni's suggestion that I close applications with 
> Command Option Q (haven't had any more episodes of 'forgetfulness' by the 
> Mac). I just wanted to mention that there are a few applications that do not 
> respond to that command, namely iTunes and Photoshop CS6. Just another 
> oddity, I guess.
> 
> Thanks for the help!
> Pat
> 
> 
> On 18/08/2013, at 2:22 PM, Ronda Brown  wrote:
> 
>> This is definitely my last email... I just read your email again :(
>> check in System Preferences > Users & Groups - Login Items 
>> If you have any Applications showing there that you don't want to open 
>> automatically when you log in ... 
>> 1. Select the name of the item you want to prevent from opening at login 
>> 2. Click Delete (-) below the list on the right.
>> 
>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
>> 
>> On 18/08/2013, at 2:10 PM, Ronda Brown  wrote:
>> 
>>> Sorry Pat, I am trying to do too many things at once :(
>>> 
>>> Also in System preferences > General check - Recent Items:  Documents, 
>>> Apps, and Servers
>>> do you have a number selected?
>>> 
>>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
>>> 
>>> On 18/08/2013, at 2:03 PM, Ronda Brown  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Pat,
 
 Do you Quit the Applications or just close the window?
 
 Check in System Preferences > General - do you have selected "Close 
 windows when quitting an Application"?
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 On 18/08/2013, at 1:33 PM, Pat  wrote:
 
> I close my Mac Pro, 10.8.4, down every night. Just before I shut it down, 
> I systematically close every open application. The last few months, when 
> I start the Mac up the next day, occasionally it comes up with all those 
> applications open, and it is now happening more frequently.
> 
> Is this a symptom of any know malady? Does anyone know what causes it? I 
> do not have any items in the Startupitems folder. 
> 
> Pat
> >
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Re: Mac getting forgetful

[Pat]

I have been following Ronni's suggestion that I close applications with Command 
Option Q (haven't had any more episodes of 'forgetfulness' by the Mac). I just 
wanted to mention that there are a few applications that do not respond to that 
command, namely iTunes and Photoshop CS6. Just another oddity, I guess.

Thanks for the help!
Pat


On 18/08/2013, at 2:22 PM, Ronda Brown  wrote:

> This is definitely my last email... I just read your email again :(
> check in System Preferences > Users & Groups - Login Items 
> If you have any Applications showing there that you don't want to open 
> automatically when you log in ... 
> 1. Select the name of the item you want to prevent from opening at login 
> 2. Click Delete (-) below the list on the right.
> 
> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
> 
> On 18/08/2013, at 2:10 PM, Ronda Brown  wrote:
> 
>> Sorry Pat, I am trying to do too many things at once :(
>> 
>> Also in System preferences > General check - Recent Items:  Documents, Apps, 
>> and Servers
>> do you have a number selected?
>> 
>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
>> 
>> On 18/08/2013, at 2:03 PM, Ronda Brown  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Pat,
>>> 
>>> Do you Quit the Applications or just close the window?
>>> 
>>> Check in System Preferences > General - do you have selected "Close windows 
>>> when quitting an Application"?
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ronni
>>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
>>> 
>>> On 18/08/2013, at 1:33 PM, Pat  wrote:
>>> 
 I close my Mac Pro, 10.8.4, down every night. Just before I shut it down, 
 I systematically close every open application. The last few months, when I 
 start the Mac up the next day, occasionally it comes up with all those 
 applications open, and it is now happening more frequently.
 
 Is this a symptom of any know malady? Does anyone know what causes it? I 
 do not have any items in the Startupitems folder. 
 
 Pat
 
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Re: Mac getting forgetful

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Pat,

Last thing to try:
Before shutting down your Mac.
Instead of 'Command-Q' to quit an Application (which just Quits the App); 
Click 'Command-Option-Q' - This will "Quit & Close all Windows" in the 
Application.

See if that helps.
Cheers,
Ronni
Sent from Ronni's iPad4

On 18/08/2013, at 5:11 PM, Pat  wrote:

> Hi, Ronni,
> 
> I usually do Command Q to quit an application, or sometimes right-clicking 
> the Dock icon and choosing 'Quit'. And I always cast an eye over the Dock 
> icons to be sure there are no longer any little white dots underneath.
> 
> In System Preferences, there are no Login items in Users & Groups.
> 
> In General, the box is ticked for Close windows when quitting an Application 
> and
> the Recent items  is set at 10.
> 
> Thanks for your reply.
> Pat
> 
> 
> On 18/08/2013, at 2:22 PM, Ronda Brown  wrote:
> 
>> This is definitely my last email... I just read your email again :(
>> check in System Preferences > Users & Groups - Login Items 
>> If you have any Applications showing there that you don't want to open 
>> automatically when you log in ... 
>> 1. Select the name of the item you want to prevent from opening at login 
>> 2. Click Delete (-) below the list on the right.
>> 
>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
>> 
>> On 18/08/2013, at 2:10 PM, Ronda Brown  wrote:
>> 
>>> Sorry Pat, I am trying to do too many things at once :(
>>> 
>>> Also in System preferences > General check - Recent Items:  Documents, 
>>> Apps, and Servers
>>> do you have a number selected?
>>> 
>>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
>>> 
>>> On 18/08/2013, at 2:03 PM, Ronda Brown  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Pat,
 
 Do you Quit the Applications or just close the window?
 
 Check in System Preferences > General - do you have selected "Close 
 windows when quitting an Application"?
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 On 18/08/2013, at 1:33 PM, Pat  wrote:
 
> I close my Mac Pro, 10.8.4, down every night. Just before I shut it down, 
> I systematically close every open application. The last few months, when 
> I start the Mac up the next day, occasionally it comes up with all those 
> applications open, and it is now happening more frequently.
> 
> Is this a symptom of any know malady? Does anyone know what causes it? I 
> do not have any items in the Startupitems folder. 
> 
> Pat
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Re: Mac getting forgetful

[Pat]

Hi, Ronni,

When closing down last night, I looked for the checkmark, but the box was not 
ticked. 

I guess I will just have to live with it. So far, it is just a little bit 
annoying, but apparently not potentially calamitous. So, thank you very much, 
Ronni and Daniel.

Cheers,
Pat


On 18/08/2013, at 5:57 PM, Ronda Brown  wrote:

> Hi Pat,
> 
> Hmmm, weird.
> 
> Try this: Click on the Apple Logo and hit Restart - take the checkmark OFF 
> "Reopen windows when logging back in"... Then click the Shutdown button.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
> 
> On 18/08/2013, at 5:11 PM, Pat  wrote:
> 
>> Hi, Ronni,
>> 
>> I usually do Command Q to quit an application, or sometimes right-clicking 
>> the Dock icon and choosing 'Quit'. And I always cast an eye over the Dock 
>> icons to be sure there are no longer any little white dots underneath.
>> 
>> In System Preferences, there are no Login items in Users & Groups.
>> 
>> In General, the box is ticked for Close windows when quitting an Application 
>> and
>> the Recent items  is set at 10.
>> 
>> Thanks for your reply.
>> Pat
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Re: Mac getting forgetful

[Daniel Kerr]

Also may be worth doing a PRAM reset and SMC reset
PRAM - 
SMC - 
Resetting the SMC for Mac Pro, Intel-based iMac, Intel-based Mac mini, or 
Intel-based Xserve

• Shut down the computer.
• Unplug the computer's power cord.
• Wait fifteen seconds.
• Attach the computer's power cord.
• Wait five seconds, then press the power button to turn on the 
computer.

Kidn regards
Daniel
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On 18/08/2013, at 5:57 PM, Ronda Brown  wrote:

> Hi Pat,
> 
> Hmmm, weird.
> 
> Try this: Click on the Apple Logo and hit Restart - take the checkmark OFF 
> "Reopen windows when logging back in"... Then click the Shutdown button.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
> 
> On 18/08/2013, at 5:11 PM, Pat  wrote:
> 
>> Hi, Ronni,
>> 
>> I usually do Command Q to quit an application, or sometimes right-clicking 
>> the Dock icon and choosing 'Quit'. And I always cast an eye over the Dock 
>> icons to be sure there are no longer any little white dots underneath.
>> 
>> In System Preferences, there are no Login items in Users & Groups.
>> 
>> In General, the box is ticked for Close windows when quitting an Application 
>> and
>> the Recent items  is set at 10.
>> 
>> Thanks for your reply.
>> Pat
>> 
>> 
>> On 18/08/2013, at 2:22 PM, Ronda Brown  wrote:
>> 
>>> This is definitely my last email... I just read your email again :(
>>> check in System Preferences > Users & Groups - Login Items 
>>> If you have any Applications showing there that you don't want to open 
>>> automatically when you log in ... 
>>> 1. Select the name of the item you want to prevent from opening at login 
>>> 2. Click Delete (-) below the list on the right.
>>> 
>>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
>>> 
>>> On 18/08/2013, at 2:10 PM, Ronda Brown  wrote:
>>> 
 Sorry Pat, I am trying to do too many things at once :(
 
 Also in System preferences > General check - Recent Items:  Documents, 
 Apps, and Servers
 do you have a number selected?
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 On 18/08/2013, at 2:03 PM, Ronda Brown  wrote:
 
> Hi Pat,
> 
> Do you Quit the Applications or just close the window?
> 
> Check in System Preferences > General - do you have selected "Close 
> windows when quitting an Application"?
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
> 
> On 18/08/2013, at 1:33 PM, Pat  wrote:
> 
>> I close my Mac Pro, 10.8.4, down every night. Just before I shut it 
>> down, I systematically close every open application. The last few 
>> months, when I start the Mac up the next day, occasionally it comes up 
>> with all those applications open, and it is now happening more 
>> frequently.
>> 
>> Is this a symptom of any know malady? Does anyone know what causes it? I 
>> do not have any items in the Startupitems folder. 
>> 
>> Pat
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Re: Mac getting forgetful

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Pat,

Hmmm, weird.

Try this: Click on the Apple Logo and hit Restart - take the checkmark OFF 
"Reopen windows when logging back in"... Then click the Shutdown button.

Cheers,
Ronni

Sent from Ronni's iPad4

On 18/08/2013, at 5:11 PM, Pat  wrote:

> Hi, Ronni,
> 
> I usually do Command Q to quit an application, or sometimes right-clicking 
> the Dock icon and choosing 'Quit'. And I always cast an eye over the Dock 
> icons to be sure there are no longer any little white dots underneath.
> 
> In System Preferences, there are no Login items in Users & Groups.
> 
> In General, the box is ticked for Close windows when quitting an Application 
> and
> the Recent items  is set at 10.
> 
> Thanks for your reply.
> Pat
> 
> 
> On 18/08/2013, at 2:22 PM, Ronda Brown  wrote:
> 
>> This is definitely my last email... I just read your email again :(
>> check in System Preferences > Users & Groups - Login Items 
>> If you have any Applications showing there that you don't want to open 
>> automatically when you log in ... 
>> 1. Select the name of the item you want to prevent from opening at login 
>> 2. Click Delete (-) below the list on the right.
>> 
>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
>> 
>> On 18/08/2013, at 2:10 PM, Ronda Brown  wrote:
>> 
>>> Sorry Pat, I am trying to do too many things at once :(
>>> 
>>> Also in System preferences > General check - Recent Items:  Documents, 
>>> Apps, and Servers
>>> do you have a number selected?
>>> 
>>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
>>> 
>>> On 18/08/2013, at 2:03 PM, Ronda Brown  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Pat,
 
 Do you Quit the Applications or just close the window?
 
 Check in System Preferences > General - do you have selected "Close 
 windows when quitting an Application"?
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 On 18/08/2013, at 1:33 PM, Pat  wrote:
 
> I close my Mac Pro, 10.8.4, down every night. Just before I shut it down, 
> I systematically close every open application. The last few months, when 
> I start the Mac up the next day, occasionally it comes up with all those 
> applications open, and it is now happening more frequently.
> 
> Is this a symptom of any know malady? Does anyone know what causes it? I 
> do not have any items in the Startupitems folder. 
> 
> Pat
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Re: Mac getting forgetful

[Pat]

Hi, Ronni,

I usually do Command Q to quit an application, or sometimes right-clicking the 
Dock icon and choosing 'Quit'. And I always cast an eye over the Dock icons to 
be sure there are no longer any little white dots underneath.

In System Preferences, there are no Login items in Users & Groups.

In General, the box is ticked for Close windows when quitting an Application and
the Recent items  is set at 10.

Thanks for your reply.
Pat


On 18/08/2013, at 2:22 PM, Ronda Brown  wrote:

> This is definitely my last email... I just read your email again :(
> check in System Preferences > Users & Groups - Login Items 
> If you have any Applications showing there that you don't want to open 
> automatically when you log in ... 
> 1. Select the name of the item you want to prevent from opening at login 
> 2. Click Delete (-) below the list on the right.
> 
> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
> 
> On 18/08/2013, at 2:10 PM, Ronda Brown  wrote:
> 
>> Sorry Pat, I am trying to do too many things at once :(
>> 
>> Also in System preferences > General check - Recent Items:  Documents, Apps, 
>> and Servers
>> do you have a number selected?
>> 
>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
>> 
>> On 18/08/2013, at 2:03 PM, Ronda Brown  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Pat,
>>> 
>>> Do you Quit the Applications or just close the window?
>>> 
>>> Check in System Preferences > General - do you have selected "Close windows 
>>> when quitting an Application"?
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ronni
>>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
>>> 
>>> On 18/08/2013, at 1:33 PM, Pat  wrote:
>>> 
 I close my Mac Pro, 10.8.4, down every night. Just before I shut it down, 
 I systematically close every open application. The last few months, when I 
 start the Mac up the next day, occasionally it comes up with all those 
 applications open, and it is now happening more frequently.
 
 Is this a symptom of any know malady? Does anyone know what causes it? I 
 do not have any items in the Startupitems folder. 
 
 Pat
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Re: Mac getting forgetful

[Ronda Brown]

This is definitely my last email... I just read your email again :(
check in System Preferences > Users & Groups - Login Items 
If you have any Applications showing there that you don't want to open 
automatically when you log in ... 
1. Select the name of the item you want to prevent from opening at login 
2. Click Delete (-) below the list on the right.

Sent from Ronni's iPad4

On 18/08/2013, at 2:10 PM, Ronda Brown  wrote:

> Sorry Pat, I am trying to do too many things at once :(
> 
> Also in System preferences > General check - Recent Items:  Documents, Apps, 
> and Servers
> do you have a number selected?
> 
> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
> 
> On 18/08/2013, at 2:03 PM, Ronda Brown  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Pat,
>> 
>> Do you Quit the Applications or just close the window?
>> 
>> Check in System Preferences > General - do you have selected "Close windows 
>> when quitting an Application"?
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
>> 
>> On 18/08/2013, at 1:33 PM, Pat  wrote:
>> 
>>> I close my Mac Pro, 10.8.4, down every night. Just before I shut it down, I 
>>> systematically close every open application. The last few months, when I 
>>> start the Mac up the next day, occasionally it comes up with all those 
>>> applications open, and it is now happening more frequently.
>>> 
>>> Is this a symptom of any know malady? Does anyone know what causes it? I do 
>>> not have any items in the Startupitems folder. 
>>> 
>>> Pat
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Re: Mac getting forgetful

[Ronda Brown]

Sorry Pat, I am trying to do too many things at once :(

Also in System preferences > General check - Recent Items:  Documents, Apps, 
and Servers
do you have a number selected?

Sent from Ronni's iPad4

On 18/08/2013, at 2:03 PM, Ronda Brown  wrote:

> Hi Pat,
> 
> Do you Quit the Applications or just close the window?
> 
> Check in System Preferences > General - do you have selected "Close windows 
> when quitting an Application"?
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
> 
> On 18/08/2013, at 1:33 PM, Pat  wrote:
> 
>> I close my Mac Pro, 10.8.4, down every night. Just before I shut it down, I 
>> systematically close every open application. The last few months, when I 
>> start the Mac up the next day, occasionally it comes up with all those 
>> applications open, and it is now happening more frequently.
>> 
>> Is this a symptom of any know malady? Does anyone know what causes it? I do 
>> not have any items in the Startupitems folder. 
>> 
>> Pat
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Re: Mac getting forgetful

[Kevin Lock]

I have a small application named "Quit all apps'.   Works well and it's 
free!.

Kev




On 18/08/13 4:03 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
> Hi Pat,
>
> Do you Quit the Applications or just close the window?
>
> Check in System Preferences > General - do you have selected "Close windows 
> when quitting an Application"?
>
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
>
> On 18/08/2013, at 1:33 PM, Pat  wrote:
>
>> I close my Mac Pro, 10.8.4, down every night. Just before I shut it down, I 
>> systematically close every open application. The last few months, when I 
>> start the Mac up the next day, occasionally it comes up with all those 
>> applications open, and it is now happening more frequently.
>>
>> Is this a symptom of any know malady? Does anyone know what causes it? I do 
>> not have any items in the Startupitems folder.
>>
>> Pat
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Re: Mac getting forgetful

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Pat,

Do you Quit the Applications or just close the window?

Check in System Preferences > General - do you have selected "Close windows 
when quitting an Application"?

Cheers,
Ronni
Sent from Ronni's iPad4

On 18/08/2013, at 1:33 PM, Pat  wrote:

> I close my Mac Pro, 10.8.4, down every night. Just before I shut it down, I 
> systematically close every open application. The last few months, when I 
> start the Mac up the next day, occasionally it comes up with all those 
> applications open, and it is now happening more frequently.
> 
> Is this a symptom of any know malady? Does anyone know what causes it? I do 
> not have any items in the Startupitems folder. 
> 
> Pat
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Mac getting forgetful

[Pat]

I close my Mac Pro, 10.8.4, down every night. Just before I shut it down, I 
systematically close every open application. The last few months, when I start 
the Mac up the next day, occasionally it comes up with all those applications 
open, and it is now happening more frequently.

Is this a symptom of any know malady? Does anyone know what causes it? I do not 
have any items in the Startupitems folder. 

Pat
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