Re: McAfee Internet Security Suite 2007 Vista?
On 24/09/2007, at 11:22 AM, Ronda Brown wrote: Personally I won't let anything carrying the word Nortons in its title anywhere near any of my computers. It's just asking for trouble. I agree completely with you Peter, that's why I chose McAfee Internet Security Suite 2007 instead of Nortons Internet Security Suite 2007. Oops! Sorry Ronnie. Next time I'll read more carefully. I guess it's because in my mind the two are almost interchangeable in their effect on Windows, Nortons is what I read. Nevertheless, my commenst would be the same, except that I would be slightly happier with Mcafee. Very slightly :-) -- Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer Perth, Western Australia Phone (618) 9332 6482Fax (618) 9332 0913 Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: McAfee Internet Security Suite 2007 Vista?
On 21/09/2007, at 3:30 PM, Ronda Brown wrote: Update to WAMUG for anyone who finds themselves with this same problem. First I tried to install by downloading the Vista Compatible version directly from the website, inserted my Retail CD in the CD drive before installation as per instructions. But, the 'sticker_update_1.2.exe' would not recognise the CD was in the drive and therefore no installation. So I then went to https://ca.mcafee.com/root/login.asp logged into My Account (which had been created when I initially installed McAfee Internet Security Suite 2007 in WindowsXP). Downloaded the file from there (then turned off Windows Firewall) and installed McAfee without any troubles. So now Windows Vista VM in Parallels is 'Safe' I hope! Cheers, Ronni Why are you punishing yourself so much with all of this? After all, don't we use our Macs precisely in order to avoid all of this rubbish (among other reasons, of course)? Personally I won't let anything carrying the word Nortons in its title anywhere near any of my computers. It's just asking for trouble. You really need do no more than TURN ON the windows firewall, and use a lightweight free virus removal tool such as AVGFree from Grisom Software; and perhaps a decent spyware checker (see below). Presumably, you are using Parallels for only a few key Windows-based applications, and if non of these use Internet access, you're pretty much safe anyway. The principle cause of virus and other malware infection on Windows is behaviour: the sites you visit, the email messages you open, the attachments you download, the links you click on. If you restrict these activities to the Mac side, the chance of getting infections on Windows are reduced to almost nil. Of course, you do need some sort of protection (Windows attracts some of this stuff all by itself) but considering that in Parallels, Windows is already sandboxed with your MacOS X framework, the risks are next to nothing. Nortons Internet Security is heavy overkill, even on a real Windows PC. It can also slow things down by up to as much as 10-15%. Dump it, and use your Mac for the important stuff. -- Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer Perth, Western Australia Phone (618) 9332 6482Fax (618) 9332 0913 Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: McAfee Internet Security Suite 2007 Vista?
On 24/09/2007, at 8:41 AM, Peter Hinchliffe wrote: On 21/09/2007, at 3:30 PM, Ronda Brown wrote: Update to WAMUG for anyone who finds themselves with this same problem. First I tried to install by downloading the Vista Compatible version directly from the website, inserted my Retail CD in the CD drive before installation as per instructions. But, the 'sticker_update_1.2.exe' would not recognise the CD was in the drive and therefore no installation. So I then went to https://ca.mcafee.com/root/login.asp logged into My Account (which had been created when I initially installed McAfee Internet Security Suite 2007 in WindowsXP). Downloaded the file from there (then turned off Windows Firewall) and installed McAfee without any troubles. So now Windows Vista VM in Parallels is 'Safe' I hope! Cheers, Ronni Hello Peter WAMUGers, Why are you punishing yourself so much with all of this? After all, don't we use our Macs precisely in order to avoid all of this rubbish (among other reasons, of course)? I 'punished' myself because against all my better judgement, and always saying I would never have anything Microsoft on my Macs, I chose to install 'Yuk WindowsXP' then 'Yuk Windows Vista' in Parallels on my beautiful 'Pure MacBook Pro'. Now that I have installed it, I wanted to make sure that 'Yuk Windows' is not going to upset my MacBook Pro in anyway. So after paying good dollars to purchase McAfee Internet Security Suite 2007 had it installed working perfectly in WindowsXP, I wanted it installed and working Perfectly in Windows Vista Ultimate. Personally I won't let anything carrying the word Nortons in its title anywhere near any of my computers. It's just asking for trouble. I agree completely with you Peter, that's why I chose McAfee Internet Security Suite 2007 instead of Nortons Internet Security Suite 2007. You really need do no more than TURN ON the windows firewall, and use a lightweight free virus removal tool such as AVGFree from Grisom Software; and perhaps a decent spyware checker (see below). Windows Firewall Security enhancements in Vista are improved to WindowsXP . but, I don't trust Microsoft Windows, so therefore I wanted the extra protection of another Internet Security Suite. Presumably, you are using Parallels for only a few key Windows- based applications, and if non of these use Internet access, you're pretty much safe anyway. I will be using Parallels for only a very few Windows-based Investment financial applications, which do need to use Internet Access. I certainly will not be using email on Windows! The principle cause of virus and other malware infection on Windows is behaviour: the sites you visit, the email messages you open, the attachments you download, the links you click on. If you restrict these activities to the Mac side, the chance of getting infections on Windows are reduced to almost nil. Of course, you do need some sort of protection (Windows attracts some of this stuff all by itself) but considering that in Parallels, Windows is already sandboxed with your MacOS X framework, the risks are next to nothing. Nortons Internet Security is heavy overkill, even on a real Windows PC. It can also slow things down by up to as much as 10-15%. I totally agree with you Peter. I am very security conscious even on my Macs, I probably have gone a bit overboard with Security Protection on Windows Vista. But I would prefer to be 'safer' then 'sorrier' ;-) Dump it, and use your Mac for the important stuff. I won't dump McAfee yet, I will dump Windows Vista when I can find good Financial Investment Applications in Mac Format. Thanks Peter for your comments, I agree with them, but I need to feel as secure as possible when I'm using Windows in Parallels. Hopefully McAfee will do the job. Cheers, Ronni -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fwd: McAfee Internet Security Suite 2007 Vista?
Update to WAMUG for anyone who finds themselves with this same problem. First I tried to install by downloading the Vista Compatible version directly from the website, inserted my Retail CD in the CD drive before installation as per instructions. But, the 'sticker_update_1.2.exe' would not recognise the CD was in the drive and therefore no installation. So I then went to https://ca.mcafee.com/root/login.asp logged into My Account (which had been created when I initially installed McAfee Internet Security Suite 2007 in WindowsXP). Downloaded the file from there (then turned off Windows Firewall) and installed McAfee without any troubles. So now Windows Vista VM in Parallels is 'Safe' I hope! Cheers, Ronni Begin forwarded message: From: Ronda Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 21 September 2007 1:53:30 PM To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au Subject: Re: McAfee Internet Security Suite 2007 Vista? Hi again Adam WAMUGers, Well, I'm confused now. Some sites are saying McAfee Internet Security Suite 2007 IS compatible with Vista, but my Vista Ultimate is saying 'It is not Compatible'? http://internet-security-suite-review.toptenreviews.com/ But now I have found this: http://ca.mcafee.com/vista/ If purchased from retail, you can download the Vista compatible version directly from this website by clicking here. You must have retail CD in the PC´s CD drive before installation starts. Be sure to keep your McAfee product CD that was included in the box. You will need this CD for authentication to add the Vista- compatible upgrade. If user already has XP installed, it will be downloaded and installed via automatic upgrade. When you upgrade your operating system to Vista, McAfee software will automatically upgrade and work – seamlessly for you. Well, we shall see? Cheers, Ronni On 21/09/2007, at 1:36 PM, Ronda Brown wrote: Thanks Adam, This time I made sure I had Windows Firewall turned off before I tried to install McAfee. Windows Compatibility Tool (or whatever it's called) opened this time alerted me to 'this software is not compatible with Vista'. Windows has no known fix for it. I will keep searching the McAfee site hopefully have an update for Vista somewhere? Thanks again, I appreciate it. Cheers, Ronni On 21/09/2007, at 1:11 PM, Adam Hewitt wrote: I don't know about McAfee specifically however I am on the beta testing for a couple of Vista Security Suites (eset and agnitum outpost) and it seems that the security architecture of Vista has required an almost complete rewrite for most of the security suites and it has left most of them well behind in production. I have tried a few of them and they are either not compatible at all or they are so buggy that it makes them useless. One thing to make sure of is that you disabled the windows firewall before you installed it as it may be that it is clashing (and I know for a fact that a majority of them do *not* disable the Windows Firewall during installation). Adam. -Original Message- From: WAMUG Mailing List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ronda Brown Sent: Friday, 21 September 2007 12:44 PM To: WAMUG Mailing List Subject: McAfee Internet Security Suite 2007 Vista? Hi WAMUGers, I have the latest Parallels v3-5160 and had WindowsXP running with McAfee Internet Security Suite 2007 installed, perfectly. I then decided to erase WindowsXP VM and install Windows Vista Ultimate in Parallels yep, everything went well and Vista was working. It is slower than WindowsXP and is heavy on CPU and my MacBook Pro (2.4 GHz / 3GB/ 800MHz/ 160GB HD) runs hotter. I then tried to install McAfee Internet Security Suite 2007 in Vista . oh dear not a good idea. It seemed to complete it's installation and then Vista asks to be restarted, which I did . then all Hell broke loose, Vista blocks some startup items and then says it has a 'Critical Error' and will shutdown. But, It won't shutdown, it won't do anything I had to just Quit Parallels. I downloaded McAfee Removal tool, but Vista would not stay working for me to uninstall McAfee. I eventually managed to start Vista Ultimate in Safe Mode was able to uninstall McAfee Internet Security Suite 2007. Have you heard of anyone that has been able to install run McAfee Internet Security Suite 2007 in Vista? I understood it was compatible with Vista .. On the box I notice it does not mention Vista ;-( I've searched and searched the Internet McAfee's support for an answer, to no avail. I think there must be an update for Vista, but I'm damned if I can locate one. Failing this, I guess I will have to install the 'Kaspersky Internet security' that Parallels has under its 'Actions' menu. This of course will cost me more dollars! Or else re-install WindowsXP in Parallels. Thanks for any information regarding this, I will appreciate it as always. Cheers, Ronni who is focused on my
McAfee Internet Security Suite 2007 Vista?
Hi WAMUGers, I have the latest Parallels v3-5160 and had WindowsXP running with McAfee Internet Security Suite 2007 installed, perfectly. I then decided to erase WindowsXP VM and install Windows Vista Ultimate in Parallels yep, everything went well and Vista was working. It is slower than WindowsXP and is heavy on CPU and my MacBook Pro (2.4 GHz / 3GB/ 800MHz/ 160GB HD) runs hotter. I then tried to install McAfee Internet Security Suite 2007 in Vista . oh dear not a good idea. It seemed to complete it's installation and then Vista asks to be restarted, which I did . then all Hell broke loose, Vista blocks some startup items and then says it has a 'Critical Error' and will shutdown. But, It won't shutdown, it won't do anything I had to just Quit Parallels. I downloaded McAfee Removal tool, but Vista would not stay working for me to uninstall McAfee. I eventually managed to start Vista Ultimate in Safe Mode was able to uninstall McAfee Internet Security Suite 2007. Have you heard of anyone that has been able to install run McAfee Internet Security Suite 2007 in Vista? I understood it was compatible with Vista .. On the box I notice it does not mention Vista ;-( I've searched and searched the Internet McAfee's support for an answer, to no avail. I think there must be an update for Vista, but I'm damned if I can locate one. Failing this, I guess I will have to install the 'Kaspersky Internet security' that Parallels has under its 'Actions' menu. This of course will cost me more dollars! Or else re-install WindowsXP in Parallels. Thanks for any information regarding this, I will appreciate it as always. Cheers, Ronni who is focused on my beloved 'Pies' winning tonight against 'The Cats' ;-) -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: McAfee Internet Security Suite 2007 Vista?
I don't know about McAfee specifically however I am on the beta testing for a couple of Vista Security Suites (eset and agnitum outpost) and it seems that the security architecture of Vista has required an almost complete rewrite for most of the security suites and it has left most of them well behind in production. I have tried a few of them and they are either not compatible at all or they are so buggy that it makes them useless. One thing to make sure of is that you disabled the windows firewall before you installed it as it may be that it is clashing (and I know for a fact that a majority of them do *not* disable the Windows Firewall during installation). Adam. -Original Message- From: WAMUG Mailing List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ronda Brown Sent: Friday, 21 September 2007 12:44 PM To: WAMUG Mailing List Subject: McAfee Internet Security Suite 2007 Vista? Hi WAMUGers, I have the latest Parallels v3-5160 and had WindowsXP running with McAfee Internet Security Suite 2007 installed, perfectly. I then decided to erase WindowsXP VM and install Windows Vista Ultimate in Parallels yep, everything went well and Vista was working. It is slower than WindowsXP and is heavy on CPU and my MacBook Pro (2.4 GHz / 3GB/ 800MHz/ 160GB HD) runs hotter. I then tried to install McAfee Internet Security Suite 2007 in Vista . oh dear not a good idea. It seemed to complete it's installation and then Vista asks to be restarted, which I did . then all Hell broke loose, Vista blocks some startup items and then says it has a 'Critical Error' and will shutdown. But, It won't shutdown, it won't do anything I had to just Quit Parallels. I downloaded McAfee Removal tool, but Vista would not stay working for me to uninstall McAfee. I eventually managed to start Vista Ultimate in Safe Mode was able to uninstall McAfee Internet Security Suite 2007. Have you heard of anyone that has been able to install run McAfee Internet Security Suite 2007 in Vista? I understood it was compatible with Vista .. On the box I notice it does not mention Vista ;-( I've searched and searched the Internet McAfee's support for an answer, to no avail. I think there must be an update for Vista, but I'm damned if I can locate one. Failing this, I guess I will have to install the 'Kaspersky Internet security' that Parallels has under its 'Actions' menu. This of course will cost me more dollars! Or else re-install WindowsXP in Parallels. Thanks for any information regarding this, I will appreciate it as always. Cheers, Ronni who is focused on my beloved 'Pies' winning tonight against 'The Cats' ;-) -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: McAfee Internet Security Suite 2007 Vista?
Thanks Adam, This time I made sure I had Windows Firewall turned off before I tried to install McAfee. Windows Compatibility Tool (or whatever it's called) opened this time alerted me to 'this software is not compatible with Vista'. Windows has no known fix for it. I will keep searching the McAfee site hopefully have an update for Vista somewhere? Thanks again, I appreciate it. Cheers, Ronni On 21/09/2007, at 1:11 PM, Adam Hewitt wrote: I don't know about McAfee specifically however I am on the beta testing for a couple of Vista Security Suites (eset and agnitum outpost) and it seems that the security architecture of Vista has required an almost complete rewrite for most of the security suites and it has left most of them well behind in production. I have tried a few of them and they are either not compatible at all or they are so buggy that it makes them useless. One thing to make sure of is that you disabled the windows firewall before you installed it as it may be that it is clashing (and I know for a fact that a majority of them do *not* disable the Windows Firewall during installation). Adam. -Original Message- From: WAMUG Mailing List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ronda Brown Sent: Friday, 21 September 2007 12:44 PM To: WAMUG Mailing List Subject: McAfee Internet Security Suite 2007 Vista? Hi WAMUGers, I have the latest Parallels v3-5160 and had WindowsXP running with McAfee Internet Security Suite 2007 installed, perfectly. I then decided to erase WindowsXP VM and install Windows Vista Ultimate in Parallels yep, everything went well and Vista was working. It is slower than WindowsXP and is heavy on CPU and my MacBook Pro (2.4 GHz / 3GB/ 800MHz/ 160GB HD) runs hotter. I then tried to install McAfee Internet Security Suite 2007 in Vista . oh dear not a good idea. It seemed to complete it's installation and then Vista asks to be restarted, which I did . then all Hell broke loose, Vista blocks some startup items and then says it has a 'Critical Error' and will shutdown. But, It won't shutdown, it won't do anything I had to just Quit Parallels. I downloaded McAfee Removal tool, but Vista would not stay working for me to uninstall McAfee. I eventually managed to start Vista Ultimate in Safe Mode was able to uninstall McAfee Internet Security Suite 2007. Have you heard of anyone that has been able to install run McAfee Internet Security Suite 2007 in Vista? I understood it was compatible with Vista .. On the box I notice it does not mention Vista ;-( I've searched and searched the Internet McAfee's support for an answer, to no avail. I think there must be an update for Vista, but I'm damned if I can locate one. Failing this, I guess I will have to install the 'Kaspersky Internet security' that Parallels has under its 'Actions' menu. This of course will cost me more dollars! Or else re-install WindowsXP in Parallels. Thanks for any information regarding this, I will appreciate it as always. Cheers, Ronni who is focused on my beloved 'Pies' winning tonight against 'The Cats' ;-) -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: McAfee Internet Security Suite 2007 Vista?
Hi again Adam WAMUGers, Well, I'm confused now. Some sites are saying McAfee Internet Security Suite 2007 IS compatible with Vista, but my Vista Ultimate is saying 'It is not Compatible'? http://internet-security-suite-review.toptenreviews.com/ But now I have found this: http://ca.mcafee.com/vista/ If purchased from retail, you can download the Vista compatible version directly from this website by clicking here. You must have retail CD in the PC´s CD drive before installation starts. Be sure to keep your McAfee product CD that was included in the box. You will need this CD for authentication to add the Vista-compatible upgrade. If user already has XP installed, it will be downloaded and installed via automatic upgrade. When you upgrade your operating system to Vista, McAfee software will automatically upgrade and work – seamlessly for you. Well, we shall see? Cheers, Ronni On 21/09/2007, at 1:36 PM, Ronda Brown wrote: Thanks Adam, This time I made sure I had Windows Firewall turned off before I tried to install McAfee. Windows Compatibility Tool (or whatever it's called) opened this time alerted me to 'this software is not compatible with Vista'. Windows has no known fix for it. I will keep searching the McAfee site hopefully have an update for Vista somewhere? Thanks again, I appreciate it. Cheers, Ronni On 21/09/2007, at 1:11 PM, Adam Hewitt wrote: I don't know about McAfee specifically however I am on the beta testing for a couple of Vista Security Suites (eset and agnitum outpost) and it seems that the security architecture of Vista has required an almost complete rewrite for most of the security suites and it has left most of them well behind in production. I have tried a few of them and they are either not compatible at all or they are so buggy that it makes them useless. One thing to make sure of is that you disabled the windows firewall before you installed it as it may be that it is clashing (and I know for a fact that a majority of them do *not* disable the Windows Firewall during installation). Adam. -Original Message- From: WAMUG Mailing List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ronda Brown Sent: Friday, 21 September 2007 12:44 PM To: WAMUG Mailing List Subject: McAfee Internet Security Suite 2007 Vista? Hi WAMUGers, I have the latest Parallels v3-5160 and had WindowsXP running with McAfee Internet Security Suite 2007 installed, perfectly. I then decided to erase WindowsXP VM and install Windows Vista Ultimate in Parallels yep, everything went well and Vista was working. It is slower than WindowsXP and is heavy on CPU and my MacBook Pro (2.4 GHz / 3GB/ 800MHz/ 160GB HD) runs hotter. I then tried to install McAfee Internet Security Suite 2007 in Vista . oh dear not a good idea. It seemed to complete it's installation and then Vista asks to be restarted, which I did . then all Hell broke loose, Vista blocks some startup items and then says it has a 'Critical Error' and will shutdown. But, It won't shutdown, it won't do anything I had to just Quit Parallels. I downloaded McAfee Removal tool, but Vista would not stay working for me to uninstall McAfee. I eventually managed to start Vista Ultimate in Safe Mode was able to uninstall McAfee Internet Security Suite 2007. Have you heard of anyone that has been able to install run McAfee Internet Security Suite 2007 in Vista? I understood it was compatible with Vista .. On the box I notice it does not mention Vista ;-( I've searched and searched the Internet McAfee's support for an answer, to no avail. I think there must be an update for Vista, but I'm damned if I can locate one. Failing this, I guess I will have to install the 'Kaspersky Internet security' that Parallels has under its 'Actions' menu. This of course will cost me more dollars! Or else re-install WindowsXP in Parallels. Thanks for any information regarding this, I will appreciate it as always. Cheers, Ronni who is focused on my beloved 'Pies' winning tonight against 'The Cats' ;-) -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
