Re: MobileMe calendar upgrade - how to amend email address?
This does not happen with me. Stuart Breden PO Box 132 Kalamunda WA 6926 Ph: (08) 9257 1577 Mbl: 0417 053 266 On 25/03/2011, at 2:03 PM, Steven Knowles wrote: MobileMe asked me recently to upgrade to the new calendar version, which I reluctantly did. Now if I set up a Calendar entry via iCal and invite others, the invitation is sent from my me.com email address, rather than the one I usually use. I can't see anything obvious, how do I override this setting and have iCal send invitations from an email address other than me.com ? I only have my me.com address in order to have a MobileMe account, so I don't want to use it publicly. Cheers, Steven -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: MobileMe calendar upgrade - how to amend email address?
Thanks Ronni. I gave that a test. Sending the Mail Event went okay. When it came to accepting the incoming .ics file (I sent it to myself using a different mail address), iCal threw up: The server responded with an error. Access to “New Event” in “Name of Calendar” in account “u...@me.com” is not permitted. The server responded: “HTTP/1.1 403 Forbidden” to operation CalDAVWriteEntityQueueableOperation. The options to select from are Go Offline or Revert to Server (the latter being the default). If Go Offline is selected, the entry is inserted into iCal. If Revert to Server is selected, the entry is not placed in iCal. I guess the recipient wouldn't ordinarily be me, so not something I'd need to worry about. Anyway, could be a 2nd best option in the interim as you say Ronni, the downside being no auto notifications and audit trail of who's declined/accepted etc. Cheers, Steven On 26/03/2011, at 11:11 AM, Ronda Brown wrote: On 25/03/2011, at 2:03 PM, Steven Knowles wrote: MobileMe asked me recently to upgrade to the new calendar version, which I reluctantly did. Now if I set up a Calendar entry via iCal and invite others, the invitation is sent from my me.com email address, rather than the one I usually use. I can't see anything obvious, how do I override this setting and have iCal send invitations from an email address other than me.com ? I only have my me.com address in order to have a MobileMe account, so I don't want to use it publicly. Hi Steven, Perhaps a work around for you until something is resolved in MobileMe. I just tried this and it works fine, you can use any email address you choose. 1. Create an Event in iCal 2. Control-Click (Right-Click) and select “Mail Event” It’s easy and it sends a standard calendar event to the recipient. With a message informing them of the event you have invited them to, and “To add it to your calendar, click the link below. Which is a standard iCal.ics I know its not what you want, but might do in the interim. Cheers, Ronni -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: MobileMe calendar upgrade - how to amend email address?
Works for me Steven. When the email with the Subject: You’ve been invited to “ Event arrives in Apple Mail Application. I click on Accept button Then Safari Opens click ‘download .ics’ And Add Event is then added to into iCal —— To invite people to an event: • Make sure you’ve created a card for yourself in Address Book (in your Applications folder). To create your own card, open Address Book and click the Add (+) button below the Name column. Then enter your information (be sure to include all of your email addresses) and choose Card Make This My Card. (For more information, open Address Book and choose Help Address Book Help.) • Double-click the event you want to invite people to. If necessary, click Edit to open the event editor. • To add the first person, click Add Invitees and type the email address for the person you want to invite. If someone has already been invited to the event, click to the right of the name, and then type the email address for the person you want to invite. If you’re inviting someone whose contact information is stored in your Mac OS X Address Book, start typing their name, iCal completes the email address for you. Use the arrow keys on your keyboard to choose the name and address you want, and then press Return to select it. • To invite more than one person, press the Return key (or type a comma) after each address, and then type the next one. If your contacts are stored in Address Book, you can also use the Address panel in iCal to quickly add invitees to your event. • To remove an address from the invitees list, click the arrow next to the name, and choose Remove Invitee (this doesn’t remove the person from your Address Book). • When you’re ready to invite these guests to your event, click the Send button at the bottom of the event editor. By default, guests receive the event invitation in an email message and in their iCal Notifications box if they use iCal (invitees can change this setting in iCal preferences). If you make any changes to the event, be sure to click the Send button again. As guests respond to your invitation through iCal, messages from them appear in your iCal Notifications box. To view their responses, click the Notifications button in the lower-left corner of the iCal window (looks like an envelope). Cheers, Ronni On 26/03/2011, at 11:38 AM, Steven Knowles wrote: Thanks Ronni. I gave that a test. Sending the Mail Event went okay. When it came to accepting the incoming .ics file (I sent it to myself using a different mail address), iCal threw up: The server responded with an error. Access to “New Event” in “Name of Calendar” in account “u...@me.com” is not permitted. The server responded: “HTTP/1.1 403 Forbidden” to operation CalDAVWriteEntityQueueableOperation. The options to select from are Go Offline or Revert to Server (the latter being the default). If Go Offline is selected, the entry is inserted into iCal. If Revert to Server is selected, the entry is not placed in iCal. I guess the recipient wouldn't ordinarily be me, so not something I'd need to worry about. Anyway, could be a 2nd best option in the interim as you say Ronni, the downside being no auto notifications and audit trail of who's declined/accepted etc. Cheers, Steven On 26/03/2011, at 11:11 AM, Ronda Brown wrote: On 25/03/2011, at 2:03 PM, Steven Knowles wrote: MobileMe asked me recently to upgrade to the new calendar version, which I reluctantly did. Now if I set up a Calendar entry via iCal and invite others, the invitation is sent from my me.com email address, rather than the one I usually use. I can't see anything obvious, how do I override this setting and have iCal send invitations from an email address other than me.com ? I only have my me.com address in order to have a MobileMe account, so I don't want to use it publicly. Hi Steven, Perhaps a work around for you until something is resolved in MobileMe. I just tried this and it works fine, you can use any email address you choose. 1. Create an Event in iCal 2. Control-Click (Right-Click) and select “Mail Event” It’s easy and it sends a standard calendar event to the recipient. With a message informing them of the event you have invited them to, and “To add it to your calendar, click the link below. Which is a standard iCal.ics I know its not what you want, but might do in the interim. Cheers, Ronni -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
MobileMe calendar upgrade - how to amend email address?
MobileMe asked me recently to upgrade to the new calendar version, which I reluctantly did. Now if I set up a Calendar entry via iCal and invite others, the invitation is sent from my me.com email address, rather than the one I usually use. I can't see anything obvious, how do I override this setting and have iCal send invitations from an email address other than me.com ? I only have my me.com address in order to have a MobileMe account, so I don't want to use it publicly. Cheers, Steven -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: MobileMe calendar upgrade - how to amend email address?
On 25/03/2011, at 2:03 PM, Steven Knowles wrote: MobileMe asked me recently to upgrade to the new calendar version, which I reluctantly did. Now if I set up a Calendar entry via iCal and invite others, the invitation is sent from my me.com email address, rather than the one I usually use. I can't see anything obvious, how do I override this setting and have iCal send invitations from an email address other than me.com ? I only have my me.com address in order to have a MobileMe account, so I don't want to use it publicly. Hi Steven I don’t have an answer for you, other than send feedback to Apple. This is what Apple Support had to say: I do understand your concerns and see how this issue can be frustrating. Unfortunately at this time The new MobileMe calendar does not support inviting people to calendar events with personal emails. I do encourage you to leave feedback about this feature as our engineers do look at customer feedback to help make our features to customers better.” http://discussions.info.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2790250tstart=0 Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro Intel Core i7 2.66GHz / 8GB / 1067 MHz DDR3 / 500GB Serial ATA Drive @ 7200rpm OS X 10.6.6 Snow Leopard Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance) -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: MobileMe calendar upgrade - how to amend email address?
Thanks Ronni. Subsequently found same quote at the support forums also. As I alluded to at the forums, the move is either sneaky, or stupid, and has put a dent in my respect for Apple. On 25/03/2011, at 6:43 PM, Ronda Brown wrote: On 25/03/2011, at 2:03 PM, Steven Knowles wrote: MobileMe asked me recently to upgrade to the new calendar version, which I reluctantly did. Now if I set up a Calendar entry via iCal and invite others, the invitation is sent from my me.com email address, rather than the one I usually use. I can't see anything obvious, how do I override this setting and have iCal send invitations from an email address other than me.com ? I only have my me.com address in order to have a MobileMe account, so I don't want to use it publicly. Hi Steven I don’t have an answer for you, other than send feedback to Apple. This is what Apple Support had to say: I do understand your concerns and see how this issue can be frustrating. Unfortunately at this time The new MobileMe calendar does not support inviting people to calendar events with personal emails. I do encourage you to leave feedback about this feature as our engineers do look at customer feedback to help make our features to customers better.” http://discussions.info.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2790250tstart=0 Cheers, Ronni -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: MobileMe calendar upgrade - how to amend email address?
Hi Steven, Such a negative knee jerk reaction does make me less likely to respond. Apple's objective in serving the majority of its customers may not always align with your personal objectives. In any case I have just tested a work around that may or may not be useful in your case. One can create a calendar that is not part of Mobile Me by selecting in iCal File = New Calendar = On My Mac. An invitation sent from this calendar will then originate from your local Mail application rather than from the Mobile Me server. If that meets your requirements you can then transfer your appointments to this calendar with an export from the old calendar and an import to the new. The drawback of this workaround is that the calendar on your Mac will no longer be synchronised with Mobile Me. Another work around which likely does not apply in your case but may apply to some other members of WAMUG is that one can register one's own domain name with your Mobile Me account. I believe that then the mobile me email would then appear to come from your own domain name. Cheers, Carlo On 2011-03-25, at 17:05, Steven Knowles wrote: Thanks Ronni. Subsequently found same quote at the support forums also. As I alluded to at the forums, the move is either sneaky, or stupid, and has put a dent in my respect for Apple. On 25/03/2011, at 6:43 PM, Ronda Brown wrote: On 25/03/2011, at 2:03 PM, Steven Knowles wrote: MobileMe asked me recently to upgrade to the new calendar version, which I reluctantly did. Now if I set up a Calendar entry via iCal and invite others, the invitation is sent from my me.com email address, rather than the one I usually use. I can't see anything obvious, how do I override this setting and have iCal send invitations from an email address other than me.com ? I only have my me.com address in order to have a MobileMe account, so I don't want to use it publicly. Hi Steven I don’t have an answer for you, other than send feedback to Apple. This is what Apple Support had to say: I do understand your concerns and see how this issue can be frustrating. Unfortunately at this time The new MobileMe calendar does not support inviting people to calendar events with personal emails. I do encourage you to leave feedback about this feature as our engineers do look at customer feedback to help make our features to customers better.” http://discussions.info.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2790250tstart=0 Cheers, Ronni -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: MobileMe calendar upgrade - how to amend email address?
Thanks Carlo. I appreciate you taking the time to take a look at the problem, it's a good suggestion. It won't work for me due to the sync issue, but may work for others. Yes, my response may be negative, but no apology there. Apple's move is negative. I don't consider it negative on the basis of my personal objectives not being aligned with Apple's wider objectives. My ego falls short of me thinking I'm the most important Mac user and therefore all users should think and use their Apple equipment like me. However Apple has: Encouraged paying MobileMe users to upgrade to the new Calendar without giving prior warning of this important issue. What about business users who, for privacy reasons, don't want his or her personal email address divulged to all? By the time it's discovered, it's too late. I can think of plenty of scenarios in which this could prove embarrassing for those who prefer to, or even need to, have clear demarcation between personal and business communications. Unintended disclosure of a personal email address can lead to the uncovering of all kinds of additional details of an individual. Removed choice in terms of how a user's calendar works, again with no advanced notice. knee-jerk - adjective. automatic and unthinking (Apple dictionary). My reaction is neither automatic nor unthinking. I've been an advocate for Apple since 1994, and I remain so, but after thinking about it, albeit it didn't take me long to decide, I stand by my view that the move is either sneaky or stupid, mainly because of the wider ramifications it will have for quite a few, and the nature of those ramifications, ie. potential breach of privacy. I don't need to align my view with those who don't think the move is neither sneaky nor stupid. We're not living in a police state. As terrific as most members of this group, including me, think Apple and its products generally are, Apple shouldn't be protected from the critical voice of its users, minority or otherwise, when an arguably dud decision is made. Any organisation which takes that view has a short life expectancy. Sure, some users will think the me.com only is a fine decision, others won't, and others won't give a hoot either way. But I'd be prepared to bet a large sum of money that I'm not a tiny minority of iCal /MobileMe users who don't want calendar invitations to come from an email address which invitees have never heard of. Especially when the user, a paying user mind you, finds out only after the event. No hard feelings Carlo, just healthy debate and me getting my back up momentarily about what may be well a knee-jerk comment from your side. Cheers, Steven On 25/03/2011, at 8:06 PM, cm wrote: Hi Steven, Such a negative knee jerk reaction does make me less likely to respond. Apple's objective in serving the majority of its customers may not always align with your personal objectives. In any case I have just tested a work around that may or may not be useful in your case. One can create a calendar that is not part of Mobile Me by selecting in iCal File = New Calendar = On My Mac. An invitation sent from this calendar will then originate from your local Mail application rather than from the Mobile Me server. If that meets your requirements you can then transfer your appointments to this calendar with an export from the old calendar and an import to the new. The drawback of this workaround is that the calendar on your Mac will no longer be synchronised with Mobile Me. Another work around which likely does not apply in your case but may apply to some other members of WAMUG is that one can register one's own domain name with your Mobile Me account. I believe that then the mobile me email would then appear to come from your own domain name. Cheers, Carlo On 2011-03-25, at 17:05, Steven Knowles wrote: Thanks Ronni. Subsequently found same quote at the support forums also. As I alluded to at the forums, the move is either sneaky, or stupid, and has put a dent in my respect for Apple. On 25/03/2011, at 6:43 PM, Ronda Brown wrote: On 25/03/2011, at 2:03 PM, Steven Knowles wrote: MobileMe asked me recently to upgrade to the new calendar version, which I reluctantly did. Now if I set up a Calendar entry via iCal and invite others, the invitation is sent from my me.com email address, rather than the one I usually use. I can't see anything obvious, how do I override this setting and have iCal send invitations from an email address other than me.com ? I only have my me.com address in order to have a MobileMe account, so I don't want to use it publicly. Hi Steven I don’t have an answer for you, other than send feedback to Apple. This is what Apple Support had to say: I do understand your concerns and see how this issue can be frustrating. Unfortunately at this time The new MobileMe calendar does not support inviting people
Re: MobileMe calendar upgrade - how to amend email address?
Hi Steven, I harbour no hard feelings at all for holding a rational debate. I know that it is annoying when an application or service does not meet our needs, particularly when it is a paid service and in your position I may feel the way you do. I do, however, want to put forward the case for a third motive (other than sneaky or stupid) for the design choices made in Mobile Me. It is the technical reason that the new Mobile Me service operates the way it does. Mobile Me is Apple's attempt to provide, for personal use, a low cost functional equivalent to Microsoft's Exchange Server. The features in particular that they wish to replicate are the sharing of calendars and of appointments -- no mean feat. Microsoft's solution is to charge a small business a large sum of money for a dedicated Exchange Server and computer (one small 100 person company that I worked for, paid $25,000 for their Exchange Server hardware and license). Running an Exchange Server is quite an experience and seems to use a good portion of the system admin's time. Mobile Me cannot match the experience provided by a personal dedicated Exchange Server but aims to deliver a subset of the features that Apple thinks users will find most useful. In the previous version of Mobile Me the calendar was local to your computer. Any invites were sent from your local computer and accepted back to your local computer. This made it easy to send the email from your local account. The new version of Mobile Me (previously in beta) allows one to share calendars with friends or to publish a calendar to a group. It also allows one to send invitations that require RSVPs. If you put an event on a shared calendar the event becomes visible to all those who are subscribing to your shared calendar. The shared event will also display the list of invitees and those who have accepted. The architecture Apple chose to solve this problem is to host all the shared calendars on a (presumable huge) Mobile Me server. Thus invites are sent from the shared server via the only SMTP service that the shared server is guaranteed to have access to -- namely Apple's own Mobile Me SMTP server. With extra work, Apple could associate an originating email address with each calendar, but this would have to be one email address per subscriber of each shared calendar, since if I subscribe to a calendar I want my invitation to come from me, whereas if you subscribe to a calendar you want the invitation to come from you. Note that this not even a feature of Exchange Server. So all the above is the third rationale that I mentioned. Namely that Apple has rolled out a fairly amazing service, but it will take a future iteration to add a feature that allows invitations to appear to come from a non Mobile Me registered email address. Cheers, Carlo On 2011-03-25, at 19:10, Steven Knowles wrote: Thanks Carlo. I appreciate you taking the time to take a look at the problem, it's a good suggestion. It won't work for me due to the sync issue, but may work for others. Yes, my response may be negative, but no apology there. Apple's move is negative. I don't consider it negative on the basis of my personal objectives not being aligned with Apple's wider objectives. My ego falls short of me thinking I'm the most important Mac user and therefore all users should think and use their Apple equipment like me. However Apple has: Encouraged paying MobileMe users to upgrade to the new Calendar without giving prior warning of this important issue. What about business users who, for privacy reasons, don't want his or her personal email address divulged to all? By the time it's discovered, it's too late. I can think of plenty of scenarios in which this could prove embarrassing for those who prefer to, or even need to, have clear demarcation between personal and business communications. Unintended disclosure of a personal email address can lead to the uncovering of all kinds of additional details of an individual. Removed choice in terms of how a user's calendar works, again with no advanced notice. knee-jerk - adjective. automatic and unthinking (Apple dictionary). My reaction is neither automatic nor unthinking. I've been an advocate for Apple since 1994, and I remain so, but after thinking about it, albeit it didn't take me long to decide, I stand by my view that the move is either sneaky or stupid, mainly because of the wider ramifications it will have for quite a few, and the nature of those ramifications, ie. potential breach of privacy. I don't need to align my view with those who don't think the move is neither sneaky nor stupid. We're not living in a police state. As terrific as most members of this group, including me, think Apple and its products generally are, Apple shouldn't be protected from the critical voice of its users, minority or otherwise, when an arguably dud decision is made. Any
Re: MobileMe calendar upgrade - how to amend email address?
Hi Carlo You have a deeper understanding than me of the underlying technologies involved, and thanks again for taking the time to explain extensively, it's appreciated. It's interesting, though pushes the limits of my technical capacity. Without wanting to be argumentative, I still think that regardless of technical considerations and limitations, a move like this by Apple has failed to do the right thing by that subset of customers who use MobileMe by virtue of its failure to inform, basic Change Management 101 stuff. The ramifications are quite tangible. Fortunately in my case I generated only one calendar invitation, to four invitees, before I figiured what was happening, but even then the flow on effects have wasted at least an hour of my time, as well as creating confusion and wasted the time of others. Multiply that a few million times, that's a potentially far reaching impact. Whether or not the transition is justified overall, the implementation has been botched by limiting the ability for layman consumers to make an informed decision, or plan for any impact it may have. It wouldn't surprise me if Apple finds itself on the receiving end of a legal action or two for failure to warn against a foreseeable consequence. Maybe the effect was buried in the fine print somewhere, but even if it was, this should have been a warning in BIG CAPS. Anyway, hoping for that future iteration soon! Surely there'll be plenty of call for it. Personally I've gotta put calendar invitations on hold, and no doubt it means I've gotta stop accepting invitations as well since the acknowledgment will no doubt issue from me.com. Lots of manual input :-( Cheers, Steven On 25/03/2011, at 10:15 PM, cm wrote: Hi Steven, I harbour no hard feelings at all for holding a rational debate. I know that it is annoying when an application or service does not meet our needs, particularly when it is a paid service and in your position I may feel the way you do. I do, however, want to put forward the case for a third motive (other than sneaky or stupid) for the design choices made in Mobile Me. It is the technical reason that the new Mobile Me service operates the way it does. Mobile Me is Apple's attempt to provide, for personal use, a low cost functional equivalent to Microsoft's Exchange Server. The features in particular that they wish to replicate are the sharing of calendars and of appointments -- no mean feat. Microsoft's solution is to charge a small business a large sum of money for a dedicated Exchange Server and computer (one small 100 person company that I worked for, paid $25,000 for their Exchange Server hardware and license). Running an Exchange Server is quite an experience and seems to use a good portion of the system admin's time. Mobile Me cannot match the experience provided by a personal dedicated Exchange Server but aims to deliver a subset of the features that Apple thinks users will find most useful. In the previous version of Mobile Me the calendar was local to your computer. Any invites were sent from your local computer and accepted back to your local computer. This made it easy to send the email from your local account. The new version of Mobile Me (previously in beta) allows one to share calendars with friends or to publish a calendar to a group. It also allows one to send invitations that require RSVPs. If you put an event on a shared calendar the event becomes visible to all those who are subscribing to your shared calendar. The shared event will also display the list of invitees and those who have accepted. The architecture Apple chose to solve this problem is to host all the shared calendars on a (presumable huge) Mobile Me server. Thus invites are sent from the shared server via the only SMTP service that the shared server is guaranteed to have access to -- namely Apple's own Mobile Me SMTP server. With extra work, Apple could associate an originating email address with each calendar, but this would have to be one email address per subscriber of each shared calendar, since if I subscribe to a calendar I want my invitation to come from me, whereas if you subscribe to a calendar you want the invitation to come from you. Note that this not even a feature of Exchange Server. So all the above is the third rationale that I mentioned. Namely that Apple has rolled out a fairly amazing service, but it will take a future iteration to add a feature that allows invitations to appear to come from a non Mobile Me registered email address. Cheers, Carlo On 2011-03-25, at 19:10, Steven Knowles wrote: Thanks Carlo. I appreciate you taking the time to take a look at the problem, it's a good suggestion. It won't work for me due to the sync issue, but may work for others. Yes, my response may be negative, but no apology there. Apple's move is negative. I don't consider it negative on the basis of
Re: MobileMe calendar upgrade - how to amend email address?
Hi Steven, I forgot to mention that the wait for the next iteration of Mobile Me may not be all that long, but unfortunately I don't think it will hold any good news about the invitation snafu. Rumours are rife that a major overhaul is in the works. The most persistent rumour is that the service will become free and will allow you to share data files between your home computer and your mobile devices, or that there will be some sort of information safe storage access -- it is all quite vague. If the service does become free and changes significantly, we paid members may have access to some services only until they are retired at the end of our contract, nevertheless I am curious to see what's coming. Cheers, Carlo On 2011-03-25, at 21:56, Steven Knowles wrote: Hi Carlo You have a deeper understanding than me of the underlying technologies involved, and thanks again for taking the time to explain extensively, it's appreciated. It's interesting, though pushes the limits of my technical capacity. Without wanting to be argumentative, I still think that regardless of technical considerations and limitations, a move like this by Apple has failed to do the right thing by that subset of customers who use MobileMe by virtue of its failure to inform, basic Change Management 101 stuff. The ramifications are quite tangible. Fortunately in my case I generated only one calendar invitation, to four invitees, before I figiured what was happening, but even then the flow on effects have wasted at least an hour of my time, as well as creating confusion and wasted the time of others. Multiply that a few million times, that's a potentially far reaching impact. Whether or not the transition is justified overall, the implementation has been botched by limiting the ability for layman consumers to make an informed decision, or plan for any impact it may have. It wouldn't surprise me if Apple finds itself on the receiving end of a legal action or two for failure to warn against a foreseeable consequence. Maybe the effect was buried in the fine print somewhere, but even if it was, this should have been a warning in BIG CAPS. Anyway, hoping for that future iteration soon! Surely there'll be plenty of call for it. Personally I've gotta put calendar invitations on hold, and no doubt it means I've gotta stop accepting invitations as well since the acknowledgment will no doubt issue from me.com. Lots of manual input :-( Cheers, Steven -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: MobileMe calendar upgrade - how to amend email address?
Hi Carlo, Like you, I'm not sure I'm going to like where Apple is heading with MobileMe. I've been a member from when Dot.Mac was first introduced. /Begin Quote: Apple plans major MobileMe revamp for April launch; prior version to be phased out in a year! Apple is set to announce a new, free version of MobileMe next month, according to a trusted iLounge source. The source, who works for a major educational institution, claims the school’s supplier has said the current version of MobileMe is no longer available, and that Apple is suggesting new students sign up for the 60-day trial to cover the gap between the final MobileMe shipment and the launch of the new version. In addition, the source was told that Apple will be supporting the existing version of MobileMe for the next year, suggesting that the new version will be quite different from the existing service; the extra year of support would likely cover those who recently paid for a full year of MobileMe, prior to Apple removing any method through which a user could pay for the service. Recent reports have suggested that the revamped service will position it as a free online, cloud-based “locker” for content such as photos, videos, and music. http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/news/comments/apple-plans-major-mobileme-revamp-for-april-launch-prior-version-to-be-phas/ By Charles Starrett Senior Editor, iLounge Published: Friday, March 18, 2011 News Category: Apple, Digital Media /End Quote Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad On 25/03/2011, at 10:25 PM, cm cm200...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Steven, I forgot to mention that the wait for the next iteration of Mobile Me may not be all that long, but unfortunately I don't think it will hold any good news about the invitation snafu. Rumours are rife that a major overhaul is in the works. The most persistent rumour is that the service will become free and will allow you to share data files between your home computer and your mobile devices, or that there will be some sort of information safe storage access -- it is all quite vague. If the service does become free and changes significantly, we paid members may have access to some services only until they are retired at the end of our contract, nevertheless I am curious to see what's coming. Cheers, Carlo On 2011-03-25, at 21:56, Steven Knowles wrote: Hi Carlo You have a deeper understanding than me of the underlying technologies involved, and thanks again for taking the time to explain extensively, it's appreciated. It's interesting, though pushes the limits of my technical capacity. Without wanting to be argumentative, I still think that regardless of technical considerations and limitations, a move like this by Apple has failed to do the right thing by that subset of customers who use MobileMe by virtue of its failure to inform, basic Change Management 101 stuff. The ramifications are quite tangible. Fortunately in my case I generated only one calendar invitation, to four invitees, before I figiured what was happening, but even then the flow on effects have wasted at least an hour of my time, as well as creating confusion and wasted the time of others. Multiply that a few million times, that's a potentially far reaching impact. Whether or not the transition is justified overall, the implementation has been botched by limiting the ability for layman consumers to make an informed decision, or plan for any impact it may have. It wouldn't surprise me if Apple finds itself on the receiving end of a legal action or two for failure to warn against a foreseeable consequence. Maybe the effect was buried in the fine print somewhere, but even if it was, this should have been a warning in BIG CAPS. Anyway, hoping for that future iteration soon! Surely there'll be plenty of call for it. Personally I've gotta put calendar invitations on hold, and no doubt it means I've gotta stop accepting invitations as well since the acknowledgment will no doubt issue from me.com. Lots of manual input :-( Cheers, Steven -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: MobileMe calendar upgrade - how to amend email address?
On 25/03/2011, at 2:03 PM, Steven Knowles wrote: MobileMe asked me recently to upgrade to the new calendar version, which I reluctantly did. Now if I set up a Calendar entry via iCal and invite others, the invitation is sent from my me.com email address, rather than the one I usually use. I can't see anything obvious, how do I override this setting and have iCal send invitations from an email address other than me.com ? I only have my me.com address in order to have a MobileMe account, so I don't want to use it publicly. Hi Steven, Perhaps a work around for you until something is resolved in MobileMe. I just tried this and it works fine, you can use any email address you choose. 1. Create an Event in iCal 2. Control-Click (Right-Click) and select “Mail Event” It’s easy and it sends a standard calendar event to the recipient. With a message informing them of the event you have invited them to, and “To add it to your calendar, click the link below. Which is a standard iCal.ics I know its not what you want, but might do in the interim. Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro Intel Core i7 2.66GHz / 8GB / 1067 MHz DDR3 / 500GB Serial ATA Drive @ 7200rpm OS X 10.6.6 Snow Leopard Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance) -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
