Re: Time Machine Backups

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Peter,

On looking back through the archives, you have been experiencing problems with 
your Time Capsule & Wireless Network since you first tried setting it up.
I feel you have a problem with your overall Network Setup Configuration.

If the troubleshooting suggestions I sent to you earlier today don't fix all 
your problems with the Network, I have done a 9 page Tutorial explaining & 
showing 'How To:  Setup Airport Time Capsule / Airport Extreme N 'Simultaneous 
Dual-Band 802.11n Wi-Fi Base Station Network'. 

Simultaneous Dual-Band 802.11n Wi-Fi Base Station.
Some Wi-Fi devices use the 2.4GHz wireless band, including iPhone, iPod touch, 
and devices using 802.11b/g.
Other devices can use either 2.4GHz or the higher-speed 5GHz band, such as the 
latest 802.11n-based Mac computers and Apple TV.
Instead of choosing one of the bands, AirPort Extreme and Time Capsule (models 
introduced in 2009) now operates simultaneously on both bands, and your 
multi-band devices automatically use the best available band.

This means all your Wi-Fi devices get the fastest possible wireless performance 
and the best possible range.

The PDF Tutorial "AIRPORT EXTREME N DUAL-BAND BASE STATION NETWORK.pdf" is on 
my Website.
If you think it would be helpful for you, email me "Off List" for the details & 
password to enable you to download the Tutorial.

Cheers,
Ronni

On 18/05/2010, at 3:48 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:

> 
> On 18/05/2010, at 2:10 PM, Crisp, Peter wrote:
> 
>> Thanks for the very clear comprehensive set of procedures for me to try out 
>> Ronni. Yes, we’re certainly using the wireless network to do these backups, 
>> I was trying to explore if there were differences between if the Time 
>> Capsule has an active internet connection (as opposed to the wireless 
>> connection between Macbook and TC) or not and if it makes any difference to 
>> the ability for a backup to happen.
>>  
>> Translating that confusing sentence – does it matter to the TC for backups 
>> if the Internet connection is active or not?
> 
> 
> Hi Peter,
> 
> Oh, I now understand your question ;-)
> 
> As long as you have Airport turned ON and are connected to your Wireless 
> Network & Airport utility can detect the Time Capsule, you can still do Time 
> Machine Backups.
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> 17" MacBook Pro  Intel Core i7
> 2.66GHz / 4GB / 1067 MHz DDR3 / 500GB Serial ATA Drive @ 7200rpm
> 
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Re: Time Machine Backups

[Ronda Brown]

On 18/05/2010, at 2:10 PM, Crisp, Peter wrote:

> Thanks for the very clear comprehensive set of procedures for me to try out 
> Ronni. Yes, we’re certainly using the wireless network to do these backups, I 
> was trying to explore if there were differences between if the Time Capsule 
> has an active internet connection (as opposed to the wireless connection 
> between Macbook and TC) or not and if it makes any difference to the ability 
> for a backup to happen.
>  
> Translating that confusing sentence – does it matter to the TC for backups if 
> the Internet connection is active or not?


Hi Peter,

Oh, I now understand your question ;-)

As long as you have Airport turned ON and are connected to your Wireless 
Network & Airport utility can detect the Time Capsule, you can still do Time 
Machine Backups.


Cheers,
Ronni

17" MacBook Pro  Intel Core i7
2.66GHz / 4GB / 1067 MHz DDR3 / 500GB Serial ATA Drive @ 7200rpm

OS X 10.6.3 Snow Leopard
Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)






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RE: Time Machine Backups

[Crisp, Peter]

Thanks for the very clear comprehensive set of procedures for me to try
out Ronni. Yes, we're certainly using the wireless network to do these
backups, I was trying to explore if there were differences between if
the Time Capsule has an active internet connection (as opposed to the
wireless connection between Macbook and TC) or not and if it makes any
difference to the ability for a backup to happen. 

 

Translating that confusing sentence - does it matter to the TC for
backups if the Internet connection is active or not?

 

I hope to run the checks you've noted by the weekend.

 

 

Kind Regards,

Peter Crisp, 

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From: wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au [mailto:wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au] On
Behalf Of Ronda Brown
Sent: Monday, 17 May 2010 5:40 PM
To: WAMUG Mailing List
Subject: Re: Time Machine Backups

 

 

On 17/05/2010, at 3:14 PM, Crisp, Peter wrote:





HI All, I have been having issues with my internet connection dropping
out on my ADSL connection D-link Modem, which I don't believe is
connected with any Apple gear I have (Macbook with SL and Time Capsule),
but I am curious that the backups seem to be dependant upon the Time
Capsule having an active Internet connection to allow the Time Machine
backup to run successfully.

 

Am I imagining this or is this true that I should expect this behaviour?
I would have thought that the backup is independent of there being an
active Internet connection or not.

 

Hi Peter,

 

You are backing up to Time Capsule / Time Machine wirelessly aren't you,
so yes you do need to be connected to the Wireless Network.

 

Open AirPort Utility, choose yours from the left pane, Manual Setup and
then Time Capsule from the right and see if anything stands out.

You can also choose advanced from the top and find and browse the logs
for any other info.

 

<http://manuals.info.apple.com/en/TimeCapsule_SetupGuide.pdf>

 

You have not indicated whether you have tried any troubleshooting steps,
so we don't know if you may have already tried these basic steps:

1. Power cycle your network by powering everything off, order is not
important. Wait a few minutes then start the modem first and let it run
by itself for a few minutes, then start the Time Capsule the same way,
and then your computers the same way.

2. Try a different wireless channel setting on your Time Capsule for
your wireless network in case you may be picking up some interference
from another wireless network, cordless phones or nearby electronics.

Applications > Utilities >AirPort Utility > Manual Setup > Wireless tab
Click on the Channel setting to change your channel(s).

3. Open System Preferences and open Network
Click on the AirPort icon and then click Advanced at the lower right
Locate the name of your wireless network in the list and click the -
(minus) button to delete it.
Click OK, click Apply

4. Open Applications > Utilities > KeyChain Access
Locate the name of your network and delete this entry as well

5. Restart your computer and log on to your wireless network again.

-

I suggest you  download iStumbler <http://www.istumbler.net/>  and use
the application to display your signal strength and noise on your
network. 

What values do you see for each of these?

Also look at any other networks to see if they might be using the same
channel or an adjacent channel as your wireless network.

If so, change the channel on your wireless network so that it is as far
away as possible from other networks.

If you have cordless phones, turn them all off for at least an hour when
you can to see if your network performance improves.

 

Cheers,
Ronni

17" MacBook Pro  Intel Core i7

2.66GHz / 4GB / 1067 MHz DDR3 / 500GB Serial ATA Drive @ 7200rpm


OS X 10.6.3 Snow Leopard
Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)

 












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Re: Time Machine Backups

[Ronda Brown]

On 17/05/2010, at 3:14 PM, Crisp, Peter wrote:

> HI All, I have been having issues with my internet connection dropping out on 
> my ADSL connection D-link Modem, which I don’t believe is connected with any 
> Apple gear I have (Macbook with SL and Time Capsule), but I am curious that 
> the backups seem to be dependant upon the Time Capsule having an active 
> Internet connection to allow the Time Machine backup to run successfully.
>  
> Am I imagining this or is this true that I should expect this behaviour? I 
> would have thought that the backup is independent of there being an active 
> Internet connection or not.

Hi Peter,

You are backing up to Time Capsule / Time Machine wirelessly aren't you, so yes 
you do need to be connected to the Wireless Network.

Open AirPort Utility, choose yours from the left pane, Manual Setup and then 
Time Capsule from the right and see if anything stands out.

You can also choose advanced from the top and find and browse the logs for any 
other info.



You have not indicated whether you have tried any troubleshooting steps, so we 
don't know if you may have already tried these basic steps:

1. Power cycle your network by powering everything off, order is not important. 
Wait a few minutes then start the modem first and let it run by itself for a 
few minutes, then start the Time Capsule the same way, and then your computers 
the same way.

2. Try a different wireless channel setting on your Time Capsule for your 
wireless network in case you may be picking up some interference from another 
wireless network, cordless phones or nearby electronics.

Applications > Utilities >AirPort Utility > Manual Setup > Wireless tab
Click on the Channel setting to change your channel(s).

3. Open System Preferences and open Network
Click on the AirPort icon and then click Advanced at the lower right
Locate the name of your wireless network in the list and click the - (minus) 
button to delete it.
Click OK, click Apply

4. Open Applications > Utilities > KeyChain Access
Locate the name of your network and delete this entry as well

5. Restart your computer and log on to your wireless network again.
-
I suggest you  download iStumbler and use the application to display your 
signal strength and noise on your network. 
What values do you see for each of these?

Also look at any other networks to see if they might be using the same channel 
or an adjacent channel as your wireless network.
If so, change the channel on your wireless network so that it is as far away as 
possible from other networks.

If you have cordless phones, turn them all off for at least an hour when you 
can to see if your network performance improves.

Cheers,
Ronni

17" MacBook Pro  Intel Core i7
2.66GHz / 4GB / 1067 MHz DDR3 / 500GB Serial ATA Drive @ 7200rpm

OS X 10.6.3 Snow Leopard
Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)






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