Re: Another MacBook Pro problem
Thanks Ronni an Patrick, Yes I am sure that I got the correct drive in target mode, I was able to run the Disk Utilities Disk Repair which said it appeared to be OK. Repairing Permissions was a marathon. Having initiated it in the mid afternoon it was still churning away when I went to bed at 11PM. unfortunately it made no difference at all. At this stage I am resigned to doing a full OS reinstall. Regards, Adrian adrianske...@me.com On 10/05/2011, at 12:19 PM, Ronda Brown wrote: Hi Adrian Patrick, I don’t like coming in over another helper and what Patrick said should have worked. Adrian, Are you sure you tried to install the combo onto your MBP System? It might be worth trying this: 1. After booting your MBP into Target Disk Mode connected via FW800 to another computer running OS X 10.6.7 2, Repair Disk and Repair Disk Permissions on the MBP using Disk Utility on the Remote computer. 3. Then install the 10.6.7 Combo Update on your MBP through the mounted volume. Cheers, Ronni On 10/05/2011, at 11:25 AM, Adrian Skehan wrote: Thanks again Patrick, Here is the result: Running fsck on the boot volume... dyld: shared cached file was build against a different llbSystein.dyllb, dyld: shared cached file was build against a different llbSystem.dyllb, [Bluetooth: :CSRHIDTransiJt^pn] transition complete. Execu 11ng fsck_hfs (versI on dIskdev_cmds-491.3.3-1). dyld: shared cached file was build against a different llbSystem.dyllb, dyld: shared ca^cKed file was build against a different llbSystem.dyllb, CSRUSBBIuetoothHCI Contro11er::setupHardware dyld: shared cached file was build against a CSRUSBBIuetoothHCI Contro11er::setupHardware super returned 0 idyld: shared cached file was build against a different llbSystem.dyllb, ig dyld: shared cached file was build against a different llbSystem.dyllb, Ig ,launchctl: Dubious permissions on file (skipping): /Library/LaunchDaemons launchcti: Dubious permissions on file (skipping): /System/Llbrary/LaunchDi llaunchcti: Dubious permissions on file (skipping): /etc/mach^lnlt.d ;RppleYukon2; Marvel I Yukon Gigabit Rdapter 88E8053 Singleport Copper Sfl RppleYukon2; RxRlngSi2e = 1024, TxRIngSize 256, RXJ1RXJLE 1B24, TXJOTXJ-E dyld: shared cached file was build against a different llbSystem.dyllb, t build aaalnst a different libSystem«dylib, Regards, Adrian adrianske...@me.com On 10/05/2011, at 11:08 AM, Patrick Lawrence wrote: Hrmm, during boot hold down Command+V for a verbose boot. A whole bunch of text will appear, but the last couple of lines displayed should hopefully give us some indication of why its not booting. Kind Regards Patrick Lawrence On 10/05/11 10:45 AM, Adrian Skehan adrianske...@me.com wrote: Thanks Patrick, I have done what you suggested but unfortunately it made no difference, it still wont go past the grey screen during boot up. Regards, Adrian adrianske...@me.com On 10/05/2011, at 10:29 AM, Patrick Lawrence wrote: Adrian No, reapplying the Combo update should hopefully get you back to how the computer should have been if you didn’t run out of battery. When manually installing the update make sure you select to install it on the Hard Drive of the Macbook Pro connected via target disk mode, I think its a yellow icon. Kind Regards Patrick Lawrence On 10/05/11 9:25 AM, Adrian Skehan adrianske...@me.com wrote: Thanks Lawrence, Should I delete anything from the MacBook before running the Combo? Regards, Adrian adrianske...@me.com On 10/05/2011, at 9:16 AM, Patrick Lawrence wrote: Adrian If you have another Mac, boot the MacBook Pro in target disk mode connect it to a second Mac. Then download and install the 10.6.7 Combo Update onto the MacBook Pro using the second Mac. Kind Regards Patrick Lawrence On 10/05/11 8:54 AM, Adrian Skehan adrianske...@me.com wrote: Good morning all, Yesterday I ran the latest apple update (iPhoto and Font) on my iMac and MacBook Pro, the iMac update went OK but I was called away before the MacBook Pro (Intel OS 10.6.7) had finished so I left it running, on my return I found that I had neglected to connect the external power to the thing and the battery was all but totally discharged, when I tried to shut it down I got endless error messages saying that certain files could not be accessed (didn't think to write it down) and had to force the shut down via the start button. the consequence of all this is that it wont boot up past the grey screen and the ever rotating wheel. Zapping the Pram had no effect. DiskWarrior 4.3 reported the following: € 5 files had a directory entry with an incorrect text encoding value that was repaired. € 5 folders had a directory entry with an incorrect custom icon flag that was repaired. € Incorrect values in the Volume Information were repaired. A second DW
Re: Another MacBook Pro problem
Adrian If you have another Mac, boot the MacBook Pro in target disk mode connect it to a second Mac. Then download and install the 10.6.7 Combo Update onto the MacBook Pro using the second Mac. Kind Regards Patrick Lawrence On 10/05/11 8:54 AM, Adrian Skehan adrianske...@me.com wrote: Good morning all, Yesterday I ran the latest apple update (iPhoto and Font) on my iMac and MacBook Pro, the iMac update went OK but I was called away before the MacBook Pro (Intel OS 10.6.7) had finished so I left it running, on my return I found that I had neglected to connect the external power to the thing and the battery was all but totally discharged, when I tried to shut it down I got endless error messages saying that certain files could not be accessed (didn't think to write it down) and had to force the shut down via the start button. the consequence of all this is that it wont boot up past the grey screen and the ever rotating wheel. Zapping the Pram had no effect. DiskWarrior 4.3 reported the following: € 5 files had a directory entry with an incorrect text encoding value that was repaired. € 5 folders had a directory entry with an incorrect custom icon flag that was repaired. € Incorrect values in the Volume Information were repaired. A second DW scan came up with No Errors. Booted ut holding down the Command and S keys. Ran the FSCK -FY this showed No Errors. Checked the Volume Structure, File Structure and Surface Scan for bad block using TechTools Pro 5.0.7, No Errors found. Looking at it in Target mode everything looks to be in order. Can anyone suggest something else I can try before I resort to reinstalling the system please. Adrian Skehan adrianske...@me.com Mac OS X v10.6.7 Snow Leopard Model:MacBook Pro Processor:Intel -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Another MacBook Pro problem
Hi Adrian, I'm just curious to know why you didn't plug the MacBook Pro adapter in when you noticed the battery was almost drained. Cheers, Carlo On 2011-05-10, at 08:54, Adrian Skehan wrote: Good morning all, Yesterday I ran the latest apple update (iPhoto and Font) on my iMac and MacBook Pro, the iMac update went OK but I was called away before the MacBook Pro (Intel OS 10.6.7) had finished so I left it running, on my return I found that I had neglected to connect the external power to the thing and the battery was all but totally discharged, when I tried to shut it down I got endless error messages saying that certain files could not be accessed (didn't think to write it down) and had to force the shut down via the start button. the consequence of all this is that it wont boot up past the grey screen and the ever rotating wheel. Zapping the Pram had no effect. DiskWarrior 4.3 reported the following: • 5 files had a directory entry with an incorrect text encoding value that was repaired. • 5 folders had a directory entry with an incorrect custom icon flag that was repaired. • Incorrect values in the Volume Information were repaired. A second DW scan came up with No Errors. Booted ut holding down the Command and S keys. Ran the FSCK -FY this showed No Errors. Checked the Volume Structure, File Structure and Surface Scan for bad block using TechTools Pro 5.0.7, No Errors found. Looking at it in Target mode everything looks to be in order. Can anyone suggest something else I can try before I resort to reinstalling the system please. Adrian Skehan adrianske...@me.com Mac OS X v10.6.7 Snow Leopard Model:MacBook Pro Processor:Intel -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Another MacBook Pro problem
Thanks Lawrence, Should I delete anything from the MacBook before running the Combo? Regards, Adrian adrianske...@me.com On 10/05/2011, at 9:16 AM, Patrick Lawrence wrote: Adrian If you have another Mac, boot the MacBook Pro in target disk mode connect it to a second Mac. Then download and install the 10.6.7 Combo Update onto the MacBook Pro using the second Mac. Kind Regards Patrick Lawrence On 10/05/11 8:54 AM, Adrian Skehan adrianske...@me.com wrote: Good morning all, Yesterday I ran the latest apple update (iPhoto and Font) on my iMac and MacBook Pro, the iMac update went OK but I was called away before the MacBook Pro (Intel OS 10.6.7) had finished so I left it running, on my return I found that I had neglected to connect the external power to the thing and the battery was all but totally discharged, when I tried to shut it down I got endless error messages saying that certain files could not be accessed (didn't think to write it down) and had to force the shut down via the start button. the consequence of all this is that it wont boot up past the grey screen and the ever rotating wheel. Zapping the Pram had no effect. DiskWarrior 4.3 reported the following: € 5 files had a directory entry with an incorrect text encoding value that was repaired. € 5 folders had a directory entry with an incorrect custom icon flag that was repaired. € Incorrect values in the Volume Information were repaired. A second DW scan came up with No Errors. Booted up holding down the Command and S keys. Ran the FSCK -FY this showed No Errors. Checked the Volume Structure, File Structure and Surface Scan for bad block using TechTools Pro 5.0.7, No Errors found. Looking at it in Target mode everything looks to be in order. Can anyone suggest something else I can try before I resort to reinstalling the system please. Adrian Skehan adrianske...@me.com Mac OS X v10.6.7 Snow Leopard Model:MacBook Pro Processor:Intel -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Another MacBook Pro problem
Senior moment. Its normally connected all the time but had used it away from home the other day and hadn't put the plug back in on return. Regards, Adrian adrianske...@me.com On 10/05/2011, at 9:23 AM, cm wrote: Hi Adrian, I'm just curious to know why you didn't plug the MacBook Pro adapter in when you noticed the battery was almost drained. Cheers, Carlo On 2011-05-10, at 08:54, Adrian Skehan wrote: Good morning all, Yesterday I ran the latest apple update (iPhoto and Font) on my iMac and MacBook Pro, the iMac update went OK but I was called away before the MacBook Pro (Intel OS 10.6.7) had finished so I left it running, on my return I found that I had neglected to connect the external power to the thing and the battery was all but totally discharged, when I tried to shut it down I got endless error messages saying that certain files could not be accessed (didn't think to write it down) and had to force the shut down via the start button. the consequence of all this is that it wont boot up past the grey screen and the ever rotating wheel. Zapping the Pram had no effect. DiskWarrior 4.3 reported the following: • 5 files had a directory entry with an incorrect text encoding value that was repaired. • 5 folders had a directory entry with an incorrect custom icon flag that was repaired. • Incorrect values in the Volume Information were repaired. A second DW scan came up with No Errors. Booted ut holding down the Command and S keys. Ran the FSCK -FY this showed No Errors. Checked the Volume Structure, File Structure and Surface Scan for bad block using TechTools Pro 5.0.7, No Errors found. Looking at it in Target mode everything looks to be in order. Can anyone suggest something else I can try before I resort to reinstalling the system please. Adrian Skehan adrianske...@me.com Mac OS X v10.6.7 Snow Leopard Model: MacBook Pro Processor: Intel -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Another MacBook Pro problem
LOL. It's good to start early with your senior's moments. That way they won't come as such a shock when you get to my age. :-) Cheers, Carlo On 2011-05-10, at 09:32, Adrian Skehan wrote: Senior moment. Its normally connected all the time but had used it away from home the other day and hadn't put the plug back in on return. Regards, Adrian adrianske...@me.com On 10/05/2011, at 9:23 AM, cm wrote: Hi Adrian, I'm just curious to know why you didn't plug the MacBook Pro adapter in when you noticed the battery was almost drained. Cheers, Carlo On 2011-05-10, at 08:54, Adrian Skehan wrote: Good morning all, Yesterday I ran the latest apple update (iPhoto and Font) on my iMac and MacBook Pro, the iMac update went OK but I was called away before the MacBook Pro (Intel OS 10.6.7) had finished so I left it running, on my return I found that I had neglected to connect the external power to the thing and the battery was all but totally discharged, when I tried to shut it down I got endless error messages saying that certain files could not be accessed (didn't think to write it down) and had to force the shut down via the start button. the consequence of all this is that it wont boot up past the grey screen and the ever rotating wheel. Zapping the Pram had no effect. DiskWarrior 4.3 reported the following: • 5 files had a directory entry with an incorrect text encoding value that was repaired. • 5 folders had a directory entry with an incorrect custom icon flag that was repaired. • Incorrect values in the Volume Information were repaired. A second DW scan came up with No Errors. Booted ut holding down the Command and S keys. Ran the FSCK -FY this showed No Errors. Checked the Volume Structure, File Structure and Surface Scan for bad block using TechTools Pro 5.0.7, No Errors found. Looking at it in Target mode everything looks to be in order. Can anyone suggest something else I can try before I resort to reinstalling the system please. Adrian Skehan adrianske...@me.com Mac OS X v10.6.7 Snow Leopard Model: MacBook Pro Processor: Intel -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Another MacBook Pro problem
I thought that you are allowed an occasional senior moment when you have 3 great grandchildren and the only people you know older than ones self are siblings . Regards, Adrian adrianske...@me.com On 10/05/2011, at 9:36 AM, cm wrote: LOL. It's good to start early with your senior's moments. That way they won't come as such a shock when you get to my age. :-) Cheers, Carlo On 2011-05-10, at 09:32, Adrian Skehan wrote: Senior moment. Its normally connected all the time but had used it away from home the other day and hadn't put the plug back in on return. Regards, Adrian adrianske...@me.com On 10/05/2011, at 9:23 AM, cm wrote: Hi Adrian, I'm just curious to know why you didn't plug the MacBook Pro adapter in when you noticed the battery was almost drained. Cheers, Carlo On 2011-05-10, at 08:54, Adrian Skehan wrote: Good morning all, Yesterday I ran the latest apple update (iPhoto and Font) on my iMac and MacBook Pro, the iMac update went OK but I was called away before the MacBook Pro (Intel OS 10.6.7) had finished so I left it running, on my return I found that I had neglected to connect the external power to the thing and the battery was all but totally discharged, when I tried to shut it down I got endless error messages saying that certain files could not be accessed (didn't think to write it down) and had to force the shut down via the start button. the consequence of all this is that it wont boot up past the grey screen and the ever rotating wheel. Zapping the Pram had no effect. DiskWarrior 4.3 reported the following: • 5 files had a directory entry with an incorrect text encoding value that was repaired. • 5 folders had a directory entry with an incorrect custom icon flag that was repaired. • Incorrect values in the Volume Information were repaired. A second DW scan came up with No Errors. Booted ut holding down the Command and S keys. Ran the FSCK -FY this showed No Errors. Checked the Volume Structure, File Structure and Surface Scan for bad block using TechTools Pro 5.0.7, No Errors found. Looking at it in Target mode everything looks to be in order. Can anyone suggest something else I can try before I resort to reinstalling the system please. Adrian Skehan adrianske...@me.com Mac OS X v10.6.7 Snow Leopard Model: MacBook Pro Processor: Intel -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Another MacBook Pro problem
Adrian No, reapplying the Combo update should hopefully get you back to how the computer should have been if you didn’t run out of battery. When manually installing the update make sure you select to install it on the Hard Drive of the Macbook Pro connected via target disk mode, I think its a yellow icon. Kind Regards Patrick Lawrence On 10/05/11 9:25 AM, Adrian Skehan adrianske...@me.com wrote: Thanks Lawrence, Should I delete anything from the MacBook before running the Combo? Regards, Adrian adrianske...@me.com On 10/05/2011, at 9:16 AM, Patrick Lawrence wrote: Adrian If you have another Mac, boot the MacBook Pro in target disk mode connect it to a second Mac. Then download and install the 10.6.7 Combo Update onto the MacBook Pro using the second Mac. Kind Regards Patrick Lawrence On 10/05/11 8:54 AM, Adrian Skehan adrianske...@me.com wrote: Good morning all, Yesterday I ran the latest apple update (iPhoto and Font) on my iMac and MacBook Pro, the iMac update went OK but I was called away before the MacBook Pro (Intel OS 10.6.7) had finished so I left it running, on my return I found that I had neglected to connect the external power to the thing and the battery was all but totally discharged, when I tried to shut it down I got endless error messages saying that certain files could not be accessed (didn't think to write it down) and had to force the shut down via the start button. the consequence of all this is that it wont boot up past the grey screen and the ever rotating wheel. Zapping the Pram had no effect. DiskWarrior 4.3 reported the following: € 5 files had a directory entry with an incorrect text encoding value that was repaired. € 5 folders had a directory entry with an incorrect custom icon flag that was repaired. € Incorrect values in the Volume Information were repaired. A second DW scan came up with No Errors. Booted up holding down the Command and S keys. Ran the FSCK -FY this showed No Errors. Checked the Volume Structure, File Structure and Surface Scan for bad block using TechTools Pro 5.0.7, No Errors found. Looking at it in Target mode everything looks to be in order. Can anyone suggest something else I can try before I resort to reinstalling the system please. Adrian Skehan adrianske...@me.com Mac OS X v10.6.7 Snow Leopard Model:MacBook Pro Processor:Intel -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Another MacBook Pro problem
Thanks Patrick, I have done what you suggested but unfortunately it made no difference, it still wont go past the grey screen during boot up. Regards, Adrian adrianske...@me.com On 10/05/2011, at 10:29 AM, Patrick Lawrence wrote: Adrian No, reapplying the Combo update should hopefully get you back to how the computer should have been if you didn’t run out of battery. When manually installing the update make sure you select to install it on the Hard Drive of the Macbook Pro connected via target disk mode, I think its a yellow icon. Kind Regards Patrick Lawrence On 10/05/11 9:25 AM, Adrian Skehan adrianske...@me.com wrote: Thanks Lawrence, Should I delete anything from the MacBook before running the Combo? Regards, Adrian adrianske...@me.com On 10/05/2011, at 9:16 AM, Patrick Lawrence wrote: Adrian If you have another Mac, boot the MacBook Pro in target disk mode connect it to a second Mac. Then download and install the 10.6.7 Combo Update onto the MacBook Pro using the second Mac. Kind Regards Patrick Lawrence On 10/05/11 8:54 AM, Adrian Skehan adrianske...@me.com wrote: Good morning all, Yesterday I ran the latest apple update (iPhoto and Font) on my iMac and MacBook Pro, the iMac update went OK but I was called away before the MacBook Pro (Intel OS 10.6.7) had finished so I left it running, on my return I found that I had neglected to connect the external power to the thing and the battery was all but totally discharged, when I tried to shut it down I got endless error messages saying that certain files could not be accessed (didn't think to write it down) and had to force the shut down via the start button. the consequence of all this is that it wont boot up past the grey screen and the ever rotating wheel. Zapping the Pram had no effect. DiskWarrior 4.3 reported the following: € 5 files had a directory entry with an incorrect text encoding value that was repaired. € 5 folders had a directory entry with an incorrect custom icon flag that was repaired. € Incorrect values in the Volume Information were repaired. A second DW scan came up with No Errors. Booted up holding down the Command and S keys. Ran the FSCK -FY this showed No Errors. Checked the Volume Structure, File Structure and Surface Scan for bad block using TechTools Pro 5.0.7, No Errors found. Looking at it in Target mode everything looks to be in order. Can anyone suggest something else I can try before I resort to reinstalling the system please. Adrian Skehan adrianske...@me.com Mac OS X v10.6.7 Snow Leopard Model:MacBook Pro Processor:Intel -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Another MacBook Pro problem
Oops. I have mistaken you for a different Wamugger. C Sent from my iPad On 10/05/2011, at 9:48, Adrian Skehan adrianske...@me.com wrote: I thought that you are allowed an occasional senior moment when you have 3 great grandchildren and the only people you know older than ones self are siblings . Regards, Adrian adrianske...@me.com On 10/05/2011, at 9:36 AM, cm wrote: LOL. It's good to start early with your senior's moments. That way they won't come as such a shock when you get to my age. :-) Cheers, Carlo On 2011-05-10, at 09:32, Adrian Skehan wrote: Senior moment. Its normally connected all the time but had used it away from home the other day and hadn't put the plug back in on return. Regards, Adrian adrianske...@me.com On 10/05/2011, at 9:23 AM, cm wrote: Hi Adrian, I'm just curious to know why you didn't plug the MacBook Pro adapter in when you noticed the battery was almost drained. Cheers, Carlo On 2011-05-10, at 08:54, Adrian Skehan wrote: Good morning all, Yesterday I ran the latest apple update (iPhoto and Font) on my iMac and MacBook Pro, the iMac update went OK but I was called away before the MacBook Pro (Intel OS 10.6.7) had finished so I left it running, on my return I found that I had neglected to connect the external power to the thing and the battery was all but totally discharged, when I tried to shut it down I got endless error messages saying that certain files could not be accessed (didn't think to write it down) and had to force the shut down via the start button. the consequence of all this is that it wont boot up past the grey screen and the ever rotating wheel. Zapping the Pram had no effect. DiskWarrior 4.3 reported the following: • 5 files had a directory entry with an incorrect text encoding value that was repaired. • 5 folders had a directory entry with an incorrect custom icon flag that was repaired. • Incorrect values in the Volume Information were repaired. A second DW scan came up with No Errors. Booted ut holding down the Command and S keys. Ran the FSCK -FY this showed No Errors. Checked the Volume Structure, File Structure and Surface Scan for bad block using TechTools Pro 5.0.7, No Errors found. Looking at it in Target mode everything looks to be in order. Can anyone suggest something else I can try before I resort to reinstalling the system please. Adrian Skehan adrianske...@me.com Mac OS X v10.6.7 Snow Leopard Model:MacBook Pro Processor:Intel -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Another MacBook Pro problem
Hrmm, during boot hold down Command+V for a verbose boot. A whole bunch of text will appear, but the last couple of lines displayed should hopefully give us some indication of why its not booting. Kind Regards Patrick Lawrence On 10/05/11 10:45 AM, Adrian Skehan adrianske...@me.com wrote: Thanks Patrick, I have done what you suggested but unfortunately it made no difference, it still wont go past the grey screen during boot up. Regards, Adrian adrianske...@me.com On 10/05/2011, at 10:29 AM, Patrick Lawrence wrote: Adrian No, reapplying the Combo update should hopefully get you back to how the computer should have been if you didn’t run out of battery. When manually installing the update make sure you select to install it on the Hard Drive of the Macbook Pro connected via target disk mode, I think its a yellow icon. Kind Regards Patrick Lawrence On 10/05/11 9:25 AM, Adrian Skehan adrianske...@me.com wrote: Thanks Lawrence, Should I delete anything from the MacBook before running the Combo? Regards, Adrian adrianske...@me.com On 10/05/2011, at 9:16 AM, Patrick Lawrence wrote: Adrian If you have another Mac, boot the MacBook Pro in target disk mode connect it to a second Mac. Then download and install the 10.6.7 Combo Update onto the MacBook Pro using the second Mac. Kind Regards Patrick Lawrence On 10/05/11 8:54 AM, Adrian Skehan adrianske...@me.com wrote: Good morning all, Yesterday I ran the latest apple update (iPhoto and Font) on my iMac and MacBook Pro, the iMac update went OK but I was called away before the MacBook Pro (Intel OS 10.6.7) had finished so I left it running, on my return I found that I had neglected to connect the external power to the thing and the battery was all but totally discharged, when I tried to shut it down I got endless error messages saying that certain files could not be accessed (didn't think to write it down) and had to force the shut down via the start button. the consequence of all this is that it wont boot up past the grey screen and the ever rotating wheel. Zapping the Pram had no effect. DiskWarrior 4.3 reported the following: € 5 files had a directory entry with an incorrect text encoding value that was repaired. € 5 folders had a directory entry with an incorrect custom icon flag that was repaired. € Incorrect values in the Volume Information were repaired. A second DW scan came up with No Errors. Booted up holding down the Command and S keys. Ran the FSCK -FY this showed No Errors. Checked the Volume Structure, File Structure and Surface Scan for bad block using TechTools Pro 5.0.7, No Errors found. Looking at it in Target mode everything looks to be in order. Can anyone suggest something else I can try before I resort to reinstalling the system please. Adrian Skehan adrianske...@me.com Mac OS X v10.6.7 Snow Leopard Model:MacBook Pro Processor:Intel -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Another MacBook Pro problem
Thanks again Patrick, Here is the result: Running fsck on the boot volume... dyld: shared cached file was build against a different llbSystein.dyllb, dyld: shared cached file was build against a different llbSystem.dyllb, [Bluetooth: :CSRHIDTransiJt^pn] transition complete. Execu 11ng fsck_hfs (versI on dIskdev_cmds-491.3.3-1). dyld: shared cached file was build against a different llbSystem.dyllb, dyld: shared ca^cKed file was build against a different llbSystem.dyllb, CSRUSBBIuetoothHCI Contro11er::setupHardware dyld: shared cached file was build against a CSRUSBBIuetoothHCI Contro11er::setupHardware super returned 0 idyld: shared cached file was build against a different llbSystem.dyllb, ig dyld: shared cached file was build against a different llbSystem.dyllb, Ig ,launchctl: Dubious permissions on file (skipping): /Library/LaunchDaemons launchcti: Dubious permissions on file (skipping): /System/Llbrary/LaunchDi llaunchcti: Dubious permissions on file (skipping): /etc/mach^lnlt.d ;RppleYukon2; Marvel I Yukon Gigabit Rdapter 88E8053 Singleport Copper Sfl RppleYukon2; RxRlngSi2e = 1024, TxRIngSize 256, RXJ1RXJLE 1B24, TXJOTXJ-E dyld: shared cached file was build against a different llbSystem.dyllb, t build aaalnst a different libSystem«dylib, Regards, Adrian adrianske...@me.com On 10/05/2011, at 11:08 AM, Patrick Lawrence wrote: Hrmm, during boot hold down Command+V for a verbose boot. A whole bunch of text will appear, but the last couple of lines displayed should hopefully give us some indication of why its not booting. Kind Regards Patrick Lawrence On 10/05/11 10:45 AM, Adrian Skehan adrianske...@me.com wrote: Thanks Patrick, I have done what you suggested but unfortunately it made no difference, it still wont go past the grey screen during boot up. Regards, Adrian adrianske...@me.com On 10/05/2011, at 10:29 AM, Patrick Lawrence wrote: Adrian No, reapplying the Combo update should hopefully get you back to how the computer should have been if you didn’t run out of battery. When manually installing the update make sure you select to install it on the Hard Drive of the Macbook Pro connected via target disk mode, I think its a yellow icon. Kind Regards Patrick Lawrence On 10/05/11 9:25 AM, Adrian Skehan adrianske...@me.com wrote: Thanks Lawrence, Should I delete anything from the MacBook before running the Combo? Regards, Adrian adrianske...@me.com On 10/05/2011, at 9:16 AM, Patrick Lawrence wrote: Adrian If you have another Mac, boot the MacBook Pro in target disk mode connect it to a second Mac. Then download and install the 10.6.7 Combo Update onto the MacBook Pro using the second Mac. Kind Regards Patrick Lawrence On 10/05/11 8:54 AM, Adrian Skehan adrianske...@me.com wrote: Good morning all, Yesterday I ran the latest apple update (iPhoto and Font) on my iMac and MacBook Pro, the iMac update went OK but I was called away before the MacBook Pro (Intel OS 10.6.7) had finished so I left it running, on my return I found that I had neglected to connect the external power to the thing and the battery was all but totally discharged, when I tried to shut it down I got endless error messages saying that certain files could not be accessed (didn't think to write it down) and had to force the shut down via the start button. the consequence of all this is that it wont boot up past the grey screen and the ever rotating wheel. Zapping the Pram had no effect. DiskWarrior 4.3 reported the following: € 5 files had a directory entry with an incorrect text encoding value that was repaired. € 5 folders had a directory entry with an incorrect custom icon flag that was repaired. € Incorrect values in the Volume Information were repaired. A second DW scan came up with No Errors. Booted up holding down the Command and S keys. Ran the FSCK -FY this showed No Errors. Checked the Volume Structure, File Structure and Surface Scan for bad block using TechTools Pro 5.0.7, No Errors found. Looking at it in Target mode everything looks to be in order. Can anyone suggest something else I can try before I resort to reinstalling the system please. Adrian Skehan adrianske...@me.com Mac OS X v10.6.7 Snow Leopard Model:MacBook Pro Processor:Intel -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives -
Re: Another MacBook Pro problem
Hehe, I'm just revisiting my genealogy and was reminded of the danger of assuming age-generation correlations: My oldest grandparent (born Feb 1869) was a good 37 years older than my youngest grandparent (born Dec 1906) - though he outlived her by a few years anyway - and, in fact, was born only 9 years after HER grandmother (my great great grandmother). Apologies for the off-topic digression - though I do use Reunion on my Mac to keep track of it all ;o) Cheers Neil on 10/5/11 9:48 AM, Adrian Skehan at adrianske...@me.com wrote: I thought that you are allowed an occasional senior moment when you have 3 great grandchildren and the only people you know older than ones self are siblings . Regards, Adrian adrianske...@me.com On 10/05/2011, at 9:36 AM, cm wrote: LOL. It's good to start early with your senior's moments. That way they won't come as such a shock when you get to my age. :-) Cheers, Carlo On 2011-05-10, at 09:32, Adrian Skehan wrote: Senior moment. Its normally connected all the time but had used it away from home the other day and hadn't put the plug back in on return. Regards, Adrian adrianske...@me.com On 10/05/2011, at 9:23 AM, cm wrote: Hi Adrian, I'm just curious to know why you didn't plug the MacBook Pro adapter in when you noticed the battery was almost drained. Cheers, Carlo On 2011-05-10, at 08:54, Adrian Skehan wrote: Good morning all, Yesterday I ran the latest apple update (iPhoto and Font) on my iMac and MacBook Pro, the iMac update went OK but I was called away before the MacBook Pro (Intel OS 10.6.7) had finished so I left it running, on my return I found that I had neglected to connect the external power to the thing and the battery was all but totally discharged, when I tried to shut it down I got endless error messages saying that certain files could not be accessed (didn't think to write it down) and had to force the shut down via the start button. the consequence of all this is that it wont boot up past the grey screen and the ever rotating wheel. Zapping the Pram had no effect. DiskWarrior 4.3 reported the following: 5 files had a directory entry with an incorrect text encoding value that was repaired. 5 folders had a directory entry with an incorrect custom icon flag that was repaired. Incorrect values in the Volume Information were repaired. A second DW scan came up with No Errors. Booted ut holding down the Command and S keys. Ran the FSCK -FY this showed No Errors. Checked the Volume Structure, File Structure and Surface Scan for bad block using TechTools Pro 5.0.7, No Errors found. Looking at it in Target mode everything looks to be in order. Can anyone suggest something else I can try before I resort to reinstalling the system please. Adrian Skehan adrianske...@me.com -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Another MacBook Pro problem
Hi Adrian Patrick, I don’t like coming in over another helper and what Patrick said should have worked. Adrian, Are you sure you tried to install the combo onto your MBP System? It might be worth trying this: 1. After booting your MBP into Target Disk Mode connected via FW800 to another computer running OS X 10.6.7 2, Repair Disk and Repair Disk Permissions on the MBP using Disk Utility on the Remote computer. 3. Then install the 10.6.7 Combo Update on your MBP through the mounted volume. Cheers, Ronni On 10/05/2011, at 11:25 AM, Adrian Skehan wrote: Thanks again Patrick, Here is the result: Running fsck on the boot volume... dyld: shared cached file was build against a different llbSystein.dyllb, dyld: shared cached file was build against a different llbSystem.dyllb, [Bluetooth: :CSRHIDTransiJt^pn] transition complete. Execu 11ng fsck_hfs (versI on dIskdev_cmds-491.3.3-1). dyld: shared cached file was build against a different llbSystem.dyllb, dyld: shared ca^cKed file was build against a different llbSystem.dyllb, CSRUSBBIuetoothHCI Contro11er::setupHardware dyld: shared cached file was build against a CSRUSBBIuetoothHCI Contro11er::setupHardware super returned 0 idyld: shared cached file was build against a different llbSystem.dyllb, ig dyld: shared cached file was build against a different llbSystem.dyllb, Ig ,launchctl: Dubious permissions on file (skipping): /Library/LaunchDaemons launchcti: Dubious permissions on file (skipping): /System/Llbrary/LaunchDi llaunchcti: Dubious permissions on file (skipping): /etc/mach^lnlt.d ;RppleYukon2; Marvel I Yukon Gigabit Rdapter 88E8053 Singleport Copper Sfl RppleYukon2; RxRlngSi2e = 1024, TxRIngSize 256, RXJ1RXJLE 1B24, TXJOTXJ-E dyld: shared cached file was build against a different llbSystem.dyllb, t build aaalnst a different libSystem«dylib, Regards, Adrian adrianske...@me.com On 10/05/2011, at 11:08 AM, Patrick Lawrence wrote: Hrmm, during boot hold down Command+V for a verbose boot. A whole bunch of text will appear, but the last couple of lines displayed should hopefully give us some indication of why its not booting. Kind Regards Patrick Lawrence On 10/05/11 10:45 AM, Adrian Skehan adrianske...@me.com wrote: Thanks Patrick, I have done what you suggested but unfortunately it made no difference, it still wont go past the grey screen during boot up. Regards, Adrian adrianske...@me.com On 10/05/2011, at 10:29 AM, Patrick Lawrence wrote: Adrian No, reapplying the Combo update should hopefully get you back to how the computer should have been if you didn’t run out of battery. When manually installing the update make sure you select to install it on the Hard Drive of the Macbook Pro connected via target disk mode, I think its a yellow icon. Kind Regards Patrick Lawrence On 10/05/11 9:25 AM, Adrian Skehan adrianske...@me.com wrote: Thanks Lawrence, Should I delete anything from the MacBook before running the Combo? Regards, Adrian adrianske...@me.com On 10/05/2011, at 9:16 AM, Patrick Lawrence wrote: Adrian If you have another Mac, boot the MacBook Pro in target disk mode connect it to a second Mac. Then download and install the 10.6.7 Combo Update onto the MacBook Pro using the second Mac. Kind Regards Patrick Lawrence On 10/05/11 8:54 AM, Adrian Skehan adrianske...@me.com wrote: Good morning all, Yesterday I ran the latest apple update (iPhoto and Font) on my iMac and MacBook Pro, the iMac update went OK but I was called away before the MacBook Pro (Intel OS 10.6.7) had finished so I left it running, on my return I found that I had neglected to connect the external power to the thing and the battery was all but totally discharged, when I tried to shut it down I got endless error messages saying that certain files could not be accessed (didn't think to write it down) and had to force the shut down via the start button. the consequence of all this is that it wont boot up past the grey screen and the ever rotating wheel. Zapping the Pram had no effect. DiskWarrior 4.3 reported the following: € 5 files had a directory entry with an incorrect text encoding value that was repaired. € 5 folders had a directory entry with an incorrect custom icon flag that was repaired. € Incorrect values in the Volume Information were repaired. A second DW scan came up with No Errors. Booted up holding down the Command and S keys. Ran the FSCK -FY this showed No Errors. Checked the Volume Structure, File Structure and Surface Scan for bad block using TechTools Pro 5.0.7, No Errors found. Looking at it in Target mode everything looks to be in order. Can anyone suggest something else I can try before I resort to reinstalling the system please. Adrian Skehan adrianske...@me.com Mac OS X v10.6.7 Snow Leopard Model:MacBook Pro
Re: Another MacBook Pro problem
Three great grandchildren point to an exceedingly active youth:-) Mac Malcolm McCallum doc...@westnet.com.au Skype docmactor On 10/05/2011, at 9:48 AM, Adrian Skehan wrote: I thought that you are allowed an occasional senior moment when you have 3 great grandchildren and the only people you know older than ones self are siblings . Regards, Adrian adrianske...@me.com On 10/05/2011, at 9:36 AM, cm wrote: LOL. It's good to start early with your senior's moments. That way they won't come as such a shock when you get to my age. :-) Cheers, Carlo On 2011-05-10, at 09:32, Adrian Skehan wrote: Senior moment. Its normally connected all the time but had used it away from home the other day and hadn't put the plug back in on return. Regards, Adrian adrianske...@me.com On 10/05/2011, at 9:23 AM, cm wrote: Hi Adrian, I'm just curious to know why you didn't plug the MacBook Pro adapter in when you noticed the battery was almost drained. Cheers, Carlo On 2011-05-10, at 08:54, Adrian Skehan wrote: Good morning all, Yesterday I ran the latest apple update (iPhoto and Font) on my iMac and MacBook Pro, the iMac update went OK but I was called away before the MacBook Pro (Intel OS 10.6.7) had finished so I left it running, on my return I found that I had neglected to connect the external power to the thing and the battery was all but totally discharged, when I tried to shut it down I got endless error messages saying that certain files could not be accessed (didn't think to write it down) and had to force the shut down via the start button. the consequence of all this is that it wont boot up past the grey screen and the ever rotating wheel. Zapping the Pram had no effect. DiskWarrior 4.3 reported the following: • 5 files had a directory entry with an incorrect text encoding value that was repaired. • 5 folders had a directory entry with an incorrect custom icon flag that was repaired. • Incorrect values in the Volume Information were repaired. A second DW scan came up with No Errors. Booted ut holding down the Command and S keys. Ran the FSCK -FY this showed No Errors. Checked the Volume Structure, File Structure and Surface Scan for bad block using TechTools Pro 5.0.7, No Errors found. Looking at it in Target mode everything looks to be in order. Can anyone suggest something else I can try before I resort to reinstalling the system please. Adrian Skehan adrianske...@me.com Mac OS X v10.6.7 Snow Leopard Model:MacBook Pro Processor:Intel -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
