Re: Dragon dictate for iPhone n iPad
I declined their invitation too, there was no such request for the Mac version OSX, I selected the Bluetooth headset version as the cabled version became tiresome. Brian Sent from my iPhone On 10/12/2010, at 15:48, Pete Smith smudd...@internode.on.net wrote: Thanks also Brian. Took advantage and downloaded both. However, I've not accepted the conditions as of yet as when reading them (for Australia), I see that Nuance will collect all names from my address book as default, although I can opt out of that, and also everything I dictate which I can't opt out of. I'm always wary when I don't have options about the collection of my data. They say that it is so that they can continually improve the product. Whilst I believe them and their privacy conditions, I also noticed that they can pass the info on to any of their affiliates or anyone who buys the company. I don't really expect any issues but I'll have to think about it and 'psych' myself up to accept their conditions. I was also thinking of buying their product for the iMac but if they're going to do the same with that, I'll go without. Thanks again anyway. At least I have them now and the option to use for free! Pete Smith iMac 2.8 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo 4GB 800 MHz DDR2 SDRAM 750GB Hdrive OS X 10.6.2 On 10/12/2010, at 14:33 PM, cm wrote: Thanks Brian! I didn't even know Dragon Dictate was available in Australia, let alone free. I have happily grabbed a copy. Cheers, Carlo Sent from my iPad On 10/12/2010, at 13:42, Brian Risbey risb...@bigpond.com wrote: http://www.dragonmobileaustralia.com.au/ still should be free for a while, Brian -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Dragon dictate for iPhone n iPad
Yes. Same here Pete. I was given the option of allowing Dragon Dictate to access my address book and declined. That means I don't have the convenience of sending an email just by dictating the name of the person but I value privacy highly and decided to accept that shortcoming. I also chose not to let the software use my GPS location -- I could not see what value my location would add to dictation. It is valuable knowledge that this is a server based product, the same as Google Voice, and as such one should be mindful that whatever is said can potentially be intercepted or stored indefinitely! Cheers, Carlo On 2010-12-10, at 16:47, Brian Risbey wrote: I declined their invitation too, there was no such request for the Mac version OSX, I selected the Bluetooth headset version as the cabled version became tiresome. Brian Sent from my iPhone On 10/12/2010, at 15:48, Pete Smith smudd...@internode.on.net wrote: Thanks also Brian. Took advantage and downloaded both. However, I've not accepted the conditions as of yet as when reading them (for Australia), I see that Nuance will collect all names from my address book as default, although I can opt out of that, and also everything I dictate which I can't opt out of. I'm always wary when I don't have options about the collection of my data. They say that it is so that they can continually improve the product. Whilst I believe them and their privacy conditions, I also noticed that they can pass the info on to any of their affiliates or anyone who buys the company. I don't really expect any issues but I'll have to think about it and 'psych' myself up to accept their conditions. I was also thinking of buying their product for the iMac but if they're going to do the same with that, I'll go without. Thanks again anyway. At least I have them now and the option to use for free! Pete Smith iMac 2.8 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo 4GB 800 MHz DDR2 SDRAM 750GB Hdrive OS X 10.6.2 On 10/12/2010, at 14:33 PM, cm wrote: Thanks Brian! I didn't even know Dragon Dictate was available in Australia, let alone free. I have happily grabbed a copy. Cheers, Carlo Sent from my iPad On 10/12/2010, at 13:42, Brian Risbey risb...@bigpond.com wrote: http://www.dragonmobileaustralia.com.au/ still should be free for a while, Brian -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Dragon dictate for iPhone n iPad
Hi Carlo, Well at least they do allow you to opt out of the address book and location. As to what value the gps location might add... Why is Location Services turned on with Dragon Dictation? Localization data is used to improve recognition abilities over time by learning to recognize regional accents based on location. However, you have the option to turn off Location Services for Dragon Dictation by going to the device Setting→General→Locations Services→setting Dragon Dictation to off. So, yes, at this point in time I doubt there is much regional accent data built up for Australia! Remembering how woeful voice translation was in its infancy compared to how good it is now gives some idea of the value of all that data analysis, learning algorithms, correction incorporation. However, hehe, coming from the UK where the truckdrivers (when I was hitchhiking) used to be able to place you within about 20 miles by your accent - I think they may be being very ambitious here - I remember, as a Yorkshireman being in a bar in Oklahoma with a well-lubricated Geordie (native of Newcastle) and having to explain to the bemused Yanks that: Yes, we do come from the same country No, not too far apart - less than 100 miles No, I can't understand half of what he says either! I think they would do a lot better on that front if they asked you for your formative location (where you learned to speak/ got your accent) in the settings - otherwise what about the Cockney who first switches it on in holiday in Glasgow !! I must admit, I am just in awe that the speech recognition is as good as it is (but then I'm not a Geordie or Glaswegian!!). Cheers Neil. -- Neil R. Houghton Albany, Western Australia Tel: +61 8 9841 6063 Email: n...@possumology.com on 11/12/10 10:19 AM, cm at cm200...@gmail.com wrote: Yes. Same here Pete. I was given the option of allowing Dragon Dictate to access my address book and declined. That means I don't have the convenience of sending an email just by dictating the name of the person but I value privacy highly and decided to accept that shortcoming. I also chose not to let the software use my GPS location -- I could not see what value my location would add to dictation. It is valuable knowledge that this is a server based product, the same as Google Voice, and as such one should be mindful that whatever is said can potentially be intercepted or stored indefinitely! Cheers, Carlo On 2010-12-10, at 16:47, Brian Risbey wrote: I declined their invitation too, there was no such request for the Mac version OSX, I selected the Bluetooth headset version as the cabled version became tiresome. Brian Sent from my iPhone On 10/12/2010, at 15:48, Pete Smith smudd...@internode.on.net wrote: Thanks also Brian. Took advantage and downloaded both. However, I've not accepted the conditions as of yet as when reading them (for Australia), I see that Nuance will collect all names from my address book as default, although I can opt out of that, and also everything I dictate which I can't opt out of. I'm always wary when I don't have options about the collection of my data. They say that it is so that they can continually improve the product. Whilst I believe them and their privacy conditions, I also noticed that they can pass the info on to any of their affiliates or anyone who buys the company. I don't really expect any issues but I'll have to think about it and 'psych' myself up to accept their conditions. I was also thinking of buying their product for the iMac but if they're going to do the same with that, I'll go without. Thanks again anyway. At least I have them now and the option to use for free! Pete Smith iMac 2.8 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo 4GB 800 MHz DDR2 SDRAM 750GB Hdrive OS X 10.6.2 On 10/12/2010, at 14:33 PM, cm wrote: Thanks Brian! I didn't even know Dragon Dictate was available in Australia, let alone free. I have happily grabbed a copy. Cheers, Carlo Sent from my iPad On 10/12/2010, at 13:42, Brian Risbey risb...@bigpond.com wrote: http://www.dragonmobileaustralia.com.au/ still should be free for a while, Brian -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Dragon dictate for iPhone n iPad
Hi, All It is good to see there's a version available now here in Australia I may finally be able to get an iPhone. Also they have been promoting its free for a limited time. But I haven't seen them make anyone else pay for it in another country and it's been available elsewhere for quite awhile now Regarding Nuances Collection Of Your Voice: it's actually quite a long story and it all hast to do with Google and how they went about designing their speech recognition algorithm. 1-800-GOOG-411 (Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GOOG-411) is where it all started. Taken from Google's shutdown page http://www.google.com/goog411/index.htmlof the GOOG-411 Service GOOG-411 was the first speech recognition service from Google and helped provide a foundation for more ambitious services Before they shut down the GOOG-411 Service: They applied their millions of voice samples to products such as - Google Voice http://www.google.com/voice Originally Provides you with a Text version of your voicemail. Now is also used for other features - YouTube http://www.youtube.com/ Originally if you opt in they would automatically try to provide you with closed captioning for your videos. I believe this happens now automatically Which then allow them to build more of a database of voice samples, Which then enabled Google to show off a great new feature built-in to Android a voice keyboard. To cut a long story short nuances now collecting voice samples in their mobile apps (currently not on the desktop yet) so they can keep their number one slot in the voice recognition software sector and not get taken over by Google which is currently in slot number two. I would also like to point out if you use the Google Mobile App your voice is also being sent to Google to be analysed -- Regards Kyle - Kyle Kreusch: - This E-Mail Was Dictated Using MacSpeech Dictate, [i] - -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Dragon dictate for iPhone n iPad
Thanks Brian! I didn't even know Dragon Dictate was available in Australia, let alone free. I have happily grabbed a copy. Cheers, Carlo Sent from my iPad On 10/12/2010, at 13:42, Brian Risbey risb...@bigpond.com wrote: http://www.dragonmobileaustralia.com.au/ still should be free for a while, Brian -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Dragon dictate for iPhone n iPad
Thanks also Brian. Took advantage and downloaded both. However, I've not accepted the conditions as of yet as when reading them (for Australia), I see that Nuance will collect all names from my address book as default, although I can opt out of that, and also everything I dictate which I can't opt out of. I'm always wary when I don't have options about the collection of my data. They say that it is so that they can continually improve the product. Whilst I believe them and their privacy conditions, I also noticed that they can pass the info on to any of their affiliates or anyone who buys the company. I don't really expect any issues but I'll have to think about it and 'psych' myself up to accept their conditions. I was also thinking of buying their product for the iMac but if they're going to do the same with that, I'll go without. Thanks again anyway. At least I have them now and the option to use for free! Pete Smith iMac 2.8 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo 4GB 800 MHz DDR2 SDRAM 750GB Hdrive OS X 10.6.2 On 10/12/2010, at 14:33 PM, cm wrote: Thanks Brian! I didn't even know Dragon Dictate was available in Australia, let alone free. I have happily grabbed a copy. Cheers, Carlo Sent from my iPad On 10/12/2010, at 13:42, Brian Risbey risb...@bigpond.com wrote: http://www.dragonmobileaustralia.com.au/ still should be free for a while, Brian -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
