Re: Posting to mailing list soon for WAMUG members only

[Stuart Evans]

Remember that people can still join the mailing list and get valuable
information for Free, even if it is not specific. I've gained valuable tips
reading posts from others who specialise in the use of Macs in various
industries or areas that I don't dabble in.  The value in the $30 membership
is that you can post a question and get a personal answer from people that
have skilss and experience or maybe better "googling" skills.  :-)

I know from experience that many people do not value IT support in the same
way they might get the value of a plumber coming out when you're laundry is
flooding. Oh, until they've lost everything off their hard driveand
don't have a backup

Nevertheless, $30 doesn't get you a lot in the world of IT/Computer support
on a once off occasion so a years worth of questions and answers is value
for money.


Cheers,
Stuart


From: Tim Law 
Reply-To: 
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 14:53:11 +0800
To: "wamug@wamug.org.au" 
Subject: Re: Posting to mailing list soon for WAMUG members only

Whilst I agree with all the points regarding the cost/benefit of membership,
one of the points Adrian made was regarding attending flesh ware, face to
face, meetings, BBQ's etc., and forgive my assumption Adrian, I think you
feel that a discounted membership should be given to people who don't want
to join in with the face to face meetings. I see the opposite.

If I recall correctly, the results of the survey indicated that the majority
of WAMUG list members did not attend face to face meetings, me included.
For me, WAMUG IS the mailing list, and $30 is a pretty reasonable fee. There
could be gold coin donation for face to face meetings help cover costs of
the bikkies. :-)

Tim



 


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Re: Posting to mailing list soon for WAMUG members only

[Juliet Kitson]

G'day All
I am a pensioner and at present live in Tasmania so I can't attend meetings
but I consider the $30 I pay for membership is a bargain
regards Bill & Juliet kitson

On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 5:02 PM, iCloud  wrote:

> I dont have a problem with paying the $30 in fact I have felt a bit guilty
> for years because I never got around to it before.  I was only thinking of
> those pensioners and the like who may be doing it a bit tough with the
> recent and substantial increase in the cost of living.  I daresay that if
> anyone is in difficulty with it they will either drop out or plead their
> own case.
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Adrian
>
> adrianske...@me.com
>
>
>
>
> On 10/06/2012, at 2:53 PM, Tim Law wrote:
>
> > Whilst I agree with all the points regarding the cost/benefit of
> membership, one of the points Adrian made was regarding attending flesh
> ware, face to face, meetings, BBQ's etc., and forgive my assumption Adrian,
> I think you feel that a discounted membership should be given to people who
> don't want to join in with the face to face meetings. I see the opposite.
> >
> > If I recall correctly, the results of the survey indicated that the
> majority of WAMUG list members did not attend face to face meetings, me
> included.  For me, WAMUG IS the mailing list, and $30 is a pretty
> reasonable fee. There could be gold coin donation for face to face meetings
> help cover costs of the bikkies. :-)
> >
> > Tim
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> > On 10/06/2012, at 2:32 PM, Julie Bedford  wrote:
> >
> >> I also agree with you Daniel.  In fact, I don't think Ronni should be
> >> paying a cent.
> >>
> >> Jewels
> >> On 10/06/2012, at 1:57 PM, Stephen Chape wrote:
> >>
> >>> I am with you Daniel.
> >>> PS: When does the year expire for WAMUG ?
> >>>
> >>> On 10/06/2012, at 1:46 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:
> >>>
>  Hi Adrian
> 
>  I can't speak for the committee, but personally I think the set up
>  is actually pretty good for what is actually "supplied" for the
>  WAMUG list.
>  They have two paid fees, the $30 member's fee and the $120
>  "corporate" fee.
>  And I personally think the $30 is a bargain! Considering the
>  ongoing running costs to keep everything going from hosting, domain
>  name fees, server maintenance, list maintenance, support etc, let
>  alone all the free given time that the Committee itself puts in for
>  no reimbursement to keep it all running.
>  I doubt you'd find anywhere these days where $30 goes that far.
>  If you call Apple themselves for non Applecare queries, or a one
>  off query you're looking at $99 per incident! Even most places will
>  charge for email or phone support on a one off basis.
>  There's very little these days for free given the cost of living,
>  overheads and every day expenses. It's the nature of the world
>  today unfortunately.
>  I know even Ronni pays her $30/year membership and i think she's
>  asked one query the whole time she's been on list!! lol :o) So
>  she's really paying to give the support! lol ;o)
> 
>  I personally feel that just having the two fees is a lot easier to
>  look after and just makes it more simple given the nature of the
>  mailing list. And as mentioned, this really isn't that much for the
>  amount of help that is received. Realistically I don't think much
>  of the costings are used for non meeting attendees, well bar the
>  new indemnity insurance required unfortunately that WAMUG now
>  requires.
> 
>  Just my take on it. :o)
> 
>  Kind regards
>  Daniel
> 
>  *All comments mentioned above are solely the views of me and are
>  meant in an informative nature from my view point :o) Etc etc legal
>  stuff, etc etc,… ;o)
> 
>  Sent from my iPhone 4s
> 
>  ---
>  Daniel Kerr
>  MacWizardry
> 
>  Phone: 0414 795 960
>  Email: 
>  Web:   
> 
> 
>  **For everything Apple**
> 
>  On 09/06/2012, at 10:14 AM, iCloud wrote:
> 
> > Good morning all,
> >
> > For some time now I have wondering if the committee has given any
> > thought to having an associate membership (for the want of a
> > better term) with a reduced fee that would allow elder members
> > i.e. pensioners and others on a fixed income or even those in more
> > remote areas, to seek occasional assistance, I don't think there
> > would be many, if any, that would begrudge paying a fee for the
> > amazing help that is so often forthcoming on the list.  I also
> > think another point that may be worth considering is that many of
> > the aforementioned are not able to attend the groups meetings or
> > functions either at all or even occasionally.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> >
> > Adrian
> >
> > adrianske...@me.com
> >
> >>

Re: Posting to mailing list soon for WAMUG members only

[iCloud]

I dont have a problem with paying the $30 in fact I have felt a bit guilty for 
years because I never got around to it before.  I was only thinking of those 
pensioners and the like who may be doing it a bit tough with the recent and 
substantial increase in the cost of living.  I daresay that if anyone is in 
difficulty with it they will either drop out or plead their own case.




Regards,


Adrian

adrianske...@me.com




On 10/06/2012, at 2:53 PM, Tim Law wrote:

> Whilst I agree with all the points regarding the cost/benefit of membership, 
> one of the points Adrian made was regarding attending flesh ware, face to 
> face, meetings, BBQ's etc., and forgive my assumption Adrian, I think you 
> feel that a discounted membership should be given to people who don't want to 
> join in with the face to face meetings. I see the opposite.
> 
> If I recall correctly, the results of the survey indicated that the majority 
> of WAMUG list members did not attend face to face meetings, me included.  For 
> me, WAMUG IS the mailing list, and $30 is a pretty reasonable fee. There 
> could be gold coin donation for face to face meetings help cover costs of the 
> bikkies. :-)
> 
> Tim
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On 10/06/2012, at 2:32 PM, Julie Bedford  wrote:
> 
>> I also agree with you Daniel.  In fact, I don't think Ronni should be  
>> paying a cent.
>> 
>> Jewels
>> On 10/06/2012, at 1:57 PM, Stephen Chape wrote:
>> 
>>> I am with you Daniel.
>>> PS: When does the year expire for WAMUG ?
>>> 
>>> On 10/06/2012, at 1:46 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Adrian
 
 I can't speak for the committee, but personally I think the set up  
 is actually pretty good for what is actually "supplied" for the  
 WAMUG list.
 They have two paid fees, the $30 member's fee and the $120  
 "corporate" fee.
 And I personally think the $30 is a bargain! Considering the  
 ongoing running costs to keep everything going from hosting, domain  
 name fees, server maintenance, list maintenance, support etc, let  
 alone all the free given time that the Committee itself puts in for  
 no reimbursement to keep it all running.
 I doubt you'd find anywhere these days where $30 goes that far.
 If you call Apple themselves for non Applecare queries, or a one  
 off query you're looking at $99 per incident! Even most places will  
 charge for email or phone support on a one off basis.
 There's very little these days for free given the cost of living,  
 overheads and every day expenses. It's the nature of the world  
 today unfortunately.
 I know even Ronni pays her $30/year membership and i think she's  
 asked one query the whole time she's been on list!! lol :o) So  
 she's really paying to give the support! lol ;o)
 
 I personally feel that just having the two fees is a lot easier to  
 look after and just makes it more simple given the nature of the  
 mailing list. And as mentioned, this really isn't that much for the  
 amount of help that is received. Realistically I don't think much  
 of the costings are used for non meeting attendees, well bar the  
 new indemnity insurance required unfortunately that WAMUG now  
 requires.
 
 Just my take on it. :o)
 
 Kind regards
 Daniel
 
 *All comments mentioned above are solely the views of me and are  
 meant in an informative nature from my view point :o) Etc etc legal  
 stuff, etc etc,… ;o)
 
 Sent from my iPhone 4s
 
 ---
 Daniel Kerr
 MacWizardry
 
 Phone: 0414 795 960
 Email: 
 Web:   
 
 
 **For everything Apple**
 
 On 09/06/2012, at 10:14 AM, iCloud wrote:
 
> Good morning all,
> 
> For some time now I have wondering if the committee has given any  
> thought to having an associate membership (for the want of a  
> better term) with a reduced fee that would allow elder members  
> i.e. pensioners and others on a fixed income or even those in more  
> remote areas, to seek occasional assistance, I don't think there  
> would be many, if any, that would begrudge paying a fee for the  
> amazing help that is so often forthcoming on the list.  I also  
> think another point that may be worth considering is that many of  
> the aforementioned are not able to attend the groups meetings or  
> functions either at all or even occasionally.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> 
> Adrian
> 
> adrianske...@me.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 06/06/2012, at 11:39 AM, WAMUG announcements wrote:
> 
>> Hi Wamuggers,
>> 
>> After surveying the mailing list and discussing the matter at a  
>> meeting, we have decided that as of the 1st July 2012, only WAMUG  
>> members will be able to post to the WA

Re: Posting to mailing list soon for WAMUG members only

[Tim Law]

Whilst I agree with all the points regarding the cost/benefit of membership, 
one of the points Adrian made was regarding attending flesh ware, face to face, 
meetings, BBQ's etc., and forgive my assumption Adrian, I think you feel that a 
discounted membership should be given to people who don't want to join in with 
the face to face meetings. I see the opposite.

If I recall correctly, the results of the survey indicated that the majority of 
WAMUG list members did not attend face to face meetings, me included.  For me, 
WAMUG IS the mailing list, and $30 is a pretty reasonable fee. There could be 
gold coin donation for face to face meetings help cover costs of the bikkies. 
:-)

Tim

Sent from my iPad

On 10/06/2012, at 2:32 PM, Julie Bedford  wrote:

> I also agree with you Daniel.  In fact, I don't think Ronni should be  
> paying a cent.
> 
> Jewels
> On 10/06/2012, at 1:57 PM, Stephen Chape wrote:
> 
>> I am with you Daniel.
>> PS: When does the year expire for WAMUG ?
>> 
>> On 10/06/2012, at 1:46 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Adrian
>>> 
>>> I can't speak for the committee, but personally I think the set up  
>>> is actually pretty good for what is actually "supplied" for the  
>>> WAMUG list.
>>> They have two paid fees, the $30 member's fee and the $120  
>>> "corporate" fee.
>>> And I personally think the $30 is a bargain! Considering the  
>>> ongoing running costs to keep everything going from hosting, domain  
>>> name fees, server maintenance, list maintenance, support etc, let  
>>> alone all the free given time that the Committee itself puts in for  
>>> no reimbursement to keep it all running.
>>> I doubt you'd find anywhere these days where $30 goes that far.
>>> If you call Apple themselves for non Applecare queries, or a one  
>>> off query you're looking at $99 per incident! Even most places will  
>>> charge for email or phone support on a one off basis.
>>> There's very little these days for free given the cost of living,  
>>> overheads and every day expenses. It's the nature of the world  
>>> today unfortunately.
>>> I know even Ronni pays her $30/year membership and i think she's  
>>> asked one query the whole time she's been on list!! lol :o) So  
>>> she's really paying to give the support! lol ;o)
>>> 
>>> I personally feel that just having the two fees is a lot easier to  
>>> look after and just makes it more simple given the nature of the  
>>> mailing list. And as mentioned, this really isn't that much for the  
>>> amount of help that is received. Realistically I don't think much  
>>> of the costings are used for non meeting attendees, well bar the  
>>> new indemnity insurance required unfortunately that WAMUG now  
>>> requires.
>>> 
>>> Just my take on it. :o)
>>> 
>>> Kind regards
>>> Daniel
>>> 
>>> *All comments mentioned above are solely the views of me and are  
>>> meant in an informative nature from my view point :o) Etc etc legal  
>>> stuff, etc etc,… ;o)
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone 4s
>>> 
>>> ---
>>> Daniel Kerr
>>> MacWizardry
>>> 
>>> Phone: 0414 795 960
>>> Email: 
>>> Web:   
>>> 
>>> 
>>> **For everything Apple**
>>> 
>>> On 09/06/2012, at 10:14 AM, iCloud wrote:
>>> 
 Good morning all,
 
 For some time now I have wondering if the committee has given any  
 thought to having an associate membership (for the want of a  
 better term) with a reduced fee that would allow elder members  
 i.e. pensioners and others on a fixed income or even those in more  
 remote areas, to seek occasional assistance, I don't think there  
 would be many, if any, that would begrudge paying a fee for the  
 amazing help that is so often forthcoming on the list.  I also  
 think another point that may be worth considering is that many of  
 the aforementioned are not able to attend the groups meetings or  
 functions either at all or even occasionally.
 
 
 
 
 
 Regards,
 
 
 Adrian
 
 adrianske...@me.com
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On 06/06/2012, at 11:39 AM, WAMUG announcements wrote:
 
> Hi Wamuggers,
> 
> After surveying the mailing list and discussing the matter at a  
> meeting, we have decided that as of the 1st July 2012, only WAMUG  
> members will be able to post to the WAMUG mailing list. Everyone  
> will still be able to read the list, but posting a question or a  
> response will require that you be a paid-up WAMUG member or a  
> life member. As most regular users of our list are already WAMUG  
> members in any case, most of you will not notice any change.
> 
> The move was a frequent suggestion of those who responded to our  
> survey and is part of the drive to give value to those who pay  
> the WAMUG subscription. Subscription is currently set at $30 per  
> year. As a non-profit organization, subscriptions are used to pay  

Re: Posting to mailing list soon for WAMUG members only

[iCloud]

Hi Daniel,

No worries, it was just a thought.  I posted my $30 to the treasurer on Friday.


Regards,


Adrian

adrianske...@me.com







On 10/06/2012, at 1:46 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:

> Hi Adrian
> 
> I can't speak for the committee, but personally I think the set up is 
> actually pretty good for what is actually "supplied" for the WAMUG list.
> They have two paid fees, the $30 member's fee and the $120 "corporate" fee.
> And I personally think the $30 is a bargain! Considering the ongoing running 
> costs to keep everything going from hosting, domain name fees, server 
> maintenance, list maintenance, support etc, let alone all the free given time 
> that the Committee itself puts in for no reimbursement to keep it all running.
> I doubt you'd find anywhere these days where $30 goes that far.
> If you call Apple themselves for non Applecare queries, or a one off query 
> you're looking at $99 per incident! Even most places will charge for email or 
> phone support on a one off basis.
> There's very little these days for free given the cost of living, overheads 
> and every day expenses. It's the nature of the world today unfortunately.
> I know even Ronni pays her $30/year membership and i think she's asked one 
> query the whole time she's been on list!! lol :o) So she's really paying to 
> give the support! lol ;o)
> 
> I personally feel that just having the two fees is a lot easier to look after 
> and just makes it more simple given the nature of the mailing list. And as 
> mentioned, this really isn't that much for the amount of help that is 
> received. Realistically I don't think much of the costings are used for non 
> meeting attendees, well bar the new indemnity insurance required 
> unfortunately that WAMUG now requires.
> 
> Just my take on it. :o)
> 
> Kind regards
> Daniel
> 
> *All comments mentioned above are solely the views of me and are meant in an 
> informative nature from my view point :o) Etc etc legal stuff, etc etc,… ;o)
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 4s
> 
> ---
> Daniel Kerr
> MacWizardry
> 
> Phone: 0414 795 960
> Email: 
> Web:   
> 
> 
> **For everything Apple**
> 
> On 09/06/2012, at 10:14 AM, iCloud wrote:
> 
>> Good morning all,
>> 
>> For some time now I have wondering if the committee has given any thought to 
>> having an associate membership (for the want of a better term) with a 
>> reduced fee that would allow elder members i.e. pensioners and others on a 
>> fixed income or even those in more remote areas, to seek occasional 
>> assistance, I don't think there would be many, if any, that would begrudge 
>> paying a fee for the amazing help that is so often forthcoming on the list.  
>> I also think another point that may be worth considering is that many of the 
>> aforementioned are not able to attend the groups meetings or functions 
>> either at all or even occasionally.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> 
>> Adrian
>> 
>> adrianske...@me.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 06/06/2012, at 11:39 AM, WAMUG announcements wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Wamuggers,
>>> 
>>> After surveying the mailing list and discussing the matter at a meeting, we 
>>> have decided that as of the 1st July 2012, only WAMUG members will be able 
>>> to post to the WAMUG mailing list. Everyone will still be able to read the 
>>> list, but posting a question or a response will require that you be a 
>>> paid-up WAMUG member or a life member. As most regular users of our list 
>>> are already WAMUG members in any case, most of you will not notice any 
>>> change.
>>> 
>>> The move was a frequent suggestion of those who responded to our survey and 
>>> is part of the drive to give value to those who pay the WAMUG subscription. 
>>> Subscription is currently set at $30 per year. As a non-profit 
>>> organization, subscriptions are used to pay for our web hosting, rental of 
>>> venues and insurance for meetings, and generally to keep WAMUG running.
>>> 
>>> If you are not currently a WAMUG member please pay your subscription by the 
>>> 1st of July if you wish to continue posting to our list and to receive many 
>>> other great member benefits that we will be announcing soon. Details on how 
>>> to join are available at this link:
>>> 
>>> http://www.wamug.org.au/join/
>>> 
>>> We have some exciting changes planned for this year and hope for your 
>>> continued support of WAMUG.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> WAMUG Committee
>>> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List --
>>> Archives - 
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>>> 
>> 
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>> 

Re: Posting to mailing list soon for WAMUG members only

[Julie Bedford]

I also agree with you Daniel.  In fact, I don't think Ronni should be  
paying a cent.

Jewels
On 10/06/2012, at 1:57 PM, Stephen Chape wrote:

> I am with you Daniel.
> PS: When does the year expire for WAMUG ?
>
> On 10/06/2012, at 1:46 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:
>
>> Hi Adrian
>>
>> I can't speak for the committee, but personally I think the set up  
>> is actually pretty good for what is actually "supplied" for the  
>> WAMUG list.
>> They have two paid fees, the $30 member's fee and the $120  
>> "corporate" fee.
>> And I personally think the $30 is a bargain! Considering the  
>> ongoing running costs to keep everything going from hosting, domain  
>> name fees, server maintenance, list maintenance, support etc, let  
>> alone all the free given time that the Committee itself puts in for  
>> no reimbursement to keep it all running.
>> I doubt you'd find anywhere these days where $30 goes that far.
>> If you call Apple themselves for non Applecare queries, or a one  
>> off query you're looking at $99 per incident! Even most places will  
>> charge for email or phone support on a one off basis.
>> There's very little these days for free given the cost of living,  
>> overheads and every day expenses. It's the nature of the world  
>> today unfortunately.
>> I know even Ronni pays her $30/year membership and i think she's  
>> asked one query the whole time she's been on list!! lol :o) So  
>> she's really paying to give the support! lol ;o)
>>
>> I personally feel that just having the two fees is a lot easier to  
>> look after and just makes it more simple given the nature of the  
>> mailing list. And as mentioned, this really isn't that much for the  
>> amount of help that is received. Realistically I don't think much  
>> of the costings are used for non meeting attendees, well bar the  
>> new indemnity insurance required unfortunately that WAMUG now  
>> requires.
>>
>> Just my take on it. :o)
>>
>> Kind regards
>> Daniel
>>
>> *All comments mentioned above are solely the views of me and are  
>> meant in an informative nature from my view point :o) Etc etc legal  
>> stuff, etc etc,… ;o)
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone 4s
>>
>> ---
>> Daniel Kerr
>> MacWizardry
>>
>> Phone: 0414 795 960
>> Email: 
>> Web:   
>>
>>
>> **For everything Apple**
>>
>> On 09/06/2012, at 10:14 AM, iCloud wrote:
>>
>>> Good morning all,
>>>
>>> For some time now I have wondering if the committee has given any  
>>> thought to having an associate membership (for the want of a  
>>> better term) with a reduced fee that would allow elder members  
>>> i.e. pensioners and others on a fixed income or even those in more  
>>> remote areas, to seek occasional assistance, I don't think there  
>>> would be many, if any, that would begrudge paying a fee for the  
>>> amazing help that is so often forthcoming on the list.  I also  
>>> think another point that may be worth considering is that many of  
>>> the aforementioned are not able to attend the groups meetings or  
>>> functions either at all or even occasionally.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>>
>>> Adrian
>>>
>>> adrianske...@me.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 06/06/2012, at 11:39 AM, WAMUG announcements wrote:
>>>
 Hi Wamuggers,

 After surveying the mailing list and discussing the matter at a  
 meeting, we have decided that as of the 1st July 2012, only WAMUG  
 members will be able to post to the WAMUG mailing list. Everyone  
 will still be able to read the list, but posting a question or a  
 response will require that you be a paid-up WAMUG member or a  
 life member. As most regular users of our list are already WAMUG  
 members in any case, most of you will not notice any change.

 The move was a frequent suggestion of those who responded to our  
 survey and is part of the drive to give value to those who pay  
 the WAMUG subscription. Subscription is currently set at $30 per  
 year. As a non-profit organization, subscriptions are used to pay  
 for our web hosting, rental of venues and insurance for meetings,  
 and generally to keep WAMUG running.

 If you are not currently a WAMUG member please pay your  
 subscription by the 1st of July if you wish to continue posting  
 to our list and to receive many other great member benefits that  
 we will be announcing soon. Details on how to join are available  
 at this link:

 http://www.wamug.org.au/join/

 We have some exciting changes planned for this year and hope for  
 your continued support of WAMUG.

 Thanks,
 WAMUG Committee
 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List --
 Archives - 
 Guidelines - 
 Settings & Unsubscribe - 
 
>>>
>>> -- The WA Macin

Re: Posting to mailing list soon for WAMUG members only

[Stephen Chape]

I am with you Daniel.
PS: When does the year expire for WAMUG ?

On 10/06/2012, at 1:46 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:

> Hi Adrian
> 
> I can't speak for the committee, but personally I think the set up is 
> actually pretty good for what is actually "supplied" for the WAMUG list.
> They have two paid fees, the $30 member's fee and the $120 "corporate" fee.
> And I personally think the $30 is a bargain! Considering the ongoing running 
> costs to keep everything going from hosting, domain name fees, server 
> maintenance, list maintenance, support etc, let alone all the free given time 
> that the Committee itself puts in for no reimbursement to keep it all running.
> I doubt you'd find anywhere these days where $30 goes that far.
> If you call Apple themselves for non Applecare queries, or a one off query 
> you're looking at $99 per incident! Even most places will charge for email or 
> phone support on a one off basis.
> There's very little these days for free given the cost of living, overheads 
> and every day expenses. It's the nature of the world today unfortunately.
> I know even Ronni pays her $30/year membership and i think she's asked one 
> query the whole time she's been on list!! lol :o) So she's really paying to 
> give the support! lol ;o)
> 
> I personally feel that just having the two fees is a lot easier to look after 
> and just makes it more simple given the nature of the mailing list. And as 
> mentioned, this really isn't that much for the amount of help that is 
> received. Realistically I don't think much of the costings are used for non 
> meeting attendees, well bar the new indemnity insurance required 
> unfortunately that WAMUG now requires.
> 
> Just my take on it. :o)
> 
> Kind regards
> Daniel
> 
> *All comments mentioned above are solely the views of me and are meant in an 
> informative nature from my view point :o) Etc etc legal stuff, etc etc,… ;o)
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 4s
> 
> ---
> Daniel Kerr
> MacWizardry
> 
> Phone: 0414 795 960
> Email: 
> Web:   
> 
> 
> **For everything Apple**
> 
> On 09/06/2012, at 10:14 AM, iCloud wrote:
> 
>> Good morning all,
>> 
>> For some time now I have wondering if the committee has given any thought to 
>> having an associate membership (for the want of a better term) with a 
>> reduced fee that would allow elder members i.e. pensioners and others on a 
>> fixed income or even those in more remote areas, to seek occasional 
>> assistance, I don't think there would be many, if any, that would begrudge 
>> paying a fee for the amazing help that is so often forthcoming on the list.  
>> I also think another point that may be worth considering is that many of the 
>> aforementioned are not able to attend the groups meetings or functions 
>> either at all or even occasionally.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> 
>> Adrian
>> 
>> adrianske...@me.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 06/06/2012, at 11:39 AM, WAMUG announcements wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Wamuggers,
>>> 
>>> After surveying the mailing list and discussing the matter at a meeting, we 
>>> have decided that as of the 1st July 2012, only WAMUG members will be able 
>>> to post to the WAMUG mailing list. Everyone will still be able to read the 
>>> list, but posting a question or a response will require that you be a 
>>> paid-up WAMUG member or a life member. As most regular users of our list 
>>> are already WAMUG members in any case, most of you will not notice any 
>>> change.
>>> 
>>> The move was a frequent suggestion of those who responded to our survey and 
>>> is part of the drive to give value to those who pay the WAMUG subscription. 
>>> Subscription is currently set at $30 per year. As a non-profit 
>>> organization, subscriptions are used to pay for our web hosting, rental of 
>>> venues and insurance for meetings, and generally to keep WAMUG running.
>>> 
>>> If you are not currently a WAMUG member please pay your subscription by the 
>>> 1st of July if you wish to continue posting to our list and to receive many 
>>> other great member benefits that we will be announcing soon. Details on how 
>>> to join are available at this link:
>>> 
>>> http://www.wamug.org.au/join/
>>> 
>>> We have some exciting changes planned for this year and hope for your 
>>> continued support of WAMUG.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> WAMUG Committee
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Re: Posting to mailing list soon for WAMUG members only

[Daniel Kerr]

Hi Adrian

I can't speak for the committee, but personally I think the set up is actually 
pretty good for what is actually "supplied" for the WAMUG list.
They have two paid fees, the $30 member's fee and the $120 "corporate" fee.
And I personally think the $30 is a bargain! Considering the ongoing running 
costs to keep everything going from hosting, domain name fees, server 
maintenance, list maintenance, support etc, let alone all the free given time 
that the Committee itself puts in for no reimbursement to keep it all running.
I doubt you'd find anywhere these days where $30 goes that far.
If you call Apple themselves for non Applecare queries, or a one off query 
you're looking at $99 per incident! Even most places will charge for email or 
phone support on a one off basis.
There's very little these days for free given the cost of living, overheads and 
every day expenses. It's the nature of the world today unfortunately.
I know even Ronni pays her $30/year membership and i think she's asked one 
query the whole time she's been on list!! lol :o) So she's really paying to 
give the support! lol ;o)

I personally feel that just having the two fees is a lot easier to look after 
and just makes it more simple given the nature of the mailing list. And as 
mentioned, this really isn't that much for the amount of help that is received. 
Realistically I don't think much of the costings are used for non meeting 
attendees, well bar the new indemnity insurance required unfortunately that 
WAMUG now requires.

Just my take on it. :o)

Kind regards
Daniel

*All comments mentioned above are solely the views of me and are meant in an 
informative nature from my view point :o) Etc etc legal stuff, etc etc,… ;o)

Sent from my iPhone 4s

---
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MacWizardry

Phone: 0414 795 960
Email: 
Web:   


**For everything Apple**

On 09/06/2012, at 10:14 AM, iCloud wrote:

> Good morning all,
> 
> For some time now I have wondering if the committee has given any thought to 
> having an associate membership (for the want of a better term) with a reduced 
> fee that would allow elder members i.e. pensioners and others on a fixed 
> income or even those in more remote areas, to seek occasional assistance, I 
> don't think there would be many, if any, that would begrudge paying a fee for 
> the amazing help that is so often forthcoming on the list.  I also think 
> another point that may be worth considering is that many of the 
> aforementioned are not able to attend the groups meetings or functions either 
> at all or even occasionally.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> 
> Adrian
> 
> adrianske...@me.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 06/06/2012, at 11:39 AM, WAMUG announcements wrote:
> 
>> Hi Wamuggers,
>> 
>> After surveying the mailing list and discussing the matter at a meeting, we 
>> have decided that as of the 1st July 2012, only WAMUG members will be able 
>> to post to the WAMUG mailing list. Everyone will still be able to read the 
>> list, but posting a question or a response will require that you be a 
>> paid-up WAMUG member or a life member. As most regular users of our list are 
>> already WAMUG members in any case, most of you will not notice any change.
>> 
>> The move was a frequent suggestion of those who responded to our survey and 
>> is part of the drive to give value to those who pay the WAMUG subscription. 
>> Subscription is currently set at $30 per year. As a non-profit organization, 
>> subscriptions are used to pay for our web hosting, rental of venues and 
>> insurance for meetings, and generally to keep WAMUG running.
>> 
>> If you are not currently a WAMUG member please pay your subscription by the 
>> 1st of July if you wish to continue posting to our list and to receive many 
>> other great member benefits that we will be announcing soon. Details on how 
>> to join are available at this link:
>> 
>> http://www.wamug.org.au/join/
>> 
>> We have some exciting changes planned for this year and hope for your 
>> continued support of WAMUG.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> WAMUG Committee
>> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List --
>> Archives - 
>> Guidelines - 
>> Settings & Unsubscribe - 
>> 
> 
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Re: Posting to mailing list soon for WAMUG members only

[Reg Whitely]

It would hearten me somewhat, should I pay my membership again this year, that 
I receive some sort of receipt or acknowledgement of membership.

Reg

Reg Whitely

Home: 08 9921 7272
Mob: 04 8899 7313
Email: rwhit...@internode.on.net



On 09/06/2012, at 10:14 am, iCloud wrote:

> Good morning all,
> 
> For some time now I have wondering if the committee has given any thought to 
> having an associate membership (for the want of a better term) with a reduced 
> fee that would allow elder members i.e. pensioners and others on a fixed 
> income or even those in more remote areas, to seek occasional assistance, I 
> don't think there would be many, if any, that would begrudge paying a fee for 
> the amazing help that is so often forthcoming on the list.  I also think 
> another point that may be worth considering is that many of the 
> aforementioned are not able to attend the groups meetings or functions either 
> at all or even occasionally.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> 
> Adrian
> 
> adrianske...@me.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 06/06/2012, at 11:39 AM, WAMUG announcements wrote:
> 
>> Hi Wamuggers,
>> 
>> After surveying the mailing list and discussing the matter at a meeting, we 
>> have decided that as of the 1st July 2012, only WAMUG members will be able 
>> to post to the WAMUG mailing list. Everyone will still be able to read the 
>> list, but posting a question or a response will require that you be a 
>> paid-up WAMUG member or a life member. As most regular users of our list are 
>> already WAMUG members in any case, most of you will not notice any change.
>> 
>> The move was a frequent suggestion of those who responded to our survey and 
>> is part of the drive to give value to those who pay the WAMUG subscription. 
>> Subscription is currently set at $30 per year. As a non-profit organization, 
>> subscriptions are used to pay for our web hosting, rental of venues and 
>> insurance for meetings, and generally to keep WAMUG running.
>> 
>> If you are not currently a WAMUG member please pay your subscription by the 
>> 1st of July if you wish to continue posting to our list and to receive many 
>> other great member benefits that we will be announcing soon. Details on how 
>> to join are available at this link:
>> 
>> http://www.wamug.org.au/join/
>> 
>> We have some exciting changes planned for this year and hope for your 
>> continued support of WAMUG.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> WAMUG Committee
>> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List --
>> Archives - 
>> Guidelines - 
>> Settings & Unsubscribe - 
>> 
> 
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Re: Posting to mailing list soon for WAMUG members only

[iCloud]

Good morning all,

For some time now I have wondering if the committee has given any thought to 
having an associate membership (for the want of a better term) with a reduced 
fee that would allow elder members i.e. pensioners and others on a fixed income 
or even those in more remote areas, to seek occasional assistance, I don't 
think there would be many, if any, that would begrudge paying a fee for the 
amazing help that is so often forthcoming on the list.  I also think another 
point that may be worth considering is that many of the aforementioned are not 
able to attend the groups meetings or functions either at all or even 
occasionally.





Regards,


Adrian

adrianske...@me.com










On 06/06/2012, at 11:39 AM, WAMUG announcements wrote:

> Hi Wamuggers,
> 
> After surveying the mailing list and discussing the matter at a meeting, we 
> have decided that as of the 1st July 2012, only WAMUG members will be able to 
> post to the WAMUG mailing list. Everyone will still be able to read the list, 
> but posting a question or a response will require that you be a paid-up WAMUG 
> member or a life member. As most regular users of our list are already WAMUG 
> members in any case, most of you will not notice any change.
> 
> The move was a frequent suggestion of those who responded to our survey and 
> is part of the drive to give value to those who pay the WAMUG subscription. 
> Subscription is currently set at $30 per year. As a non-profit organization, 
> subscriptions are used to pay for our web hosting, rental of venues and 
> insurance for meetings, and generally to keep WAMUG running.
> 
> If you are not currently a WAMUG member please pay your subscription by the 
> 1st of July if you wish to continue posting to our list and to receive many 
> other great member benefits that we will be announcing soon. Details on how 
> to join are available at this link:
> 
> http://www.wamug.org.au/join/
> 
> We have some exciting changes planned for this year and hope for your 
> continued support of WAMUG.
> 
> Thanks,
> WAMUG Committee
> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List --
> Archives - 
> Guidelines - 
> Settings & Unsubscribe - 
> 

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Re: Posting to mailing list soon for WAMUG members only

[cm]

Hi David,

We will ask our treasurer, Peter Botman, to make that list available.

Regards,
Carlo

On 07/06/2012, at 17:56 , David Noel wrote:

> -- Did anyone explain how to check whether a membership is currently
> paid up, please?
> 
> David / Jun 7
> 
> ==
> 
> On 7 June 2012 17:16, Daniel Kerr  wrote:
>> Lol they do? :)
>> 
>> Noted, no more emoticons then 8~(
>> :p.:)
>> And here I thought I was always on my best behaviour.
>> 
>> Kind regards
>> Daniel
>> (who wants to buy more hours in the day pleasedo you think Apple can 
>> work on that for me please) :)
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 4s
>> 
>> ---
>> Daniel Kerr
>> MacWizardry
>> 
>> Phone: 0414 795 960
>> Email: 
>> Web: 
>> 
>> ** For Everything Apple **
>> 
>> On 07/06/2012, at 2:56 PM, Stuart Evans  wrote:
>> 
>>> Well sometimes your emoticons do appear threatening.;-)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 7/06/12 7:47 AM, "Daniel Kerr"  wrote:
>>> 
 LOl,.hadn't released we'd had any cyber bullying or email rage on our 
 list,…..
 
 
 Kind regards
 Daniel
 
 Sent from my iPhone 4s
 
 ---
 Daniel Kerr
 MacWizardry
 
 Phone: 0414 795 960
 Email: 
 Web:   
 
 
 **For everything Apple**
 
 On 07/06/2012, at 7:05 AM, Stuart Breden wrote:
 
> Good idea, and it prompted me to immediately pay my subs as well.
> 
> Hopefully this will give better control to the list and stop cyber bulling
> and e-mail rage.
> 
> Stuart Breden
> PO Box 132
> Kalamunda WA 6926
> Ph: (08) 9257 1577
> Mbl: 0417 053 266
> 
> Please consider the environment before printing this email
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 06/06/2012, at 11:39 AM, WAMUG announcements wrote:
> 
>> Hi Wamuggers,
>> 
>> After surveying the mailing list and discussing the matter at a meeting, 
>> we
>> have decided that as of the 1st July 2012, only WAMUG members will be 
>> able
>> to post to the WAMUG mailing list. Everyone will still be able to read 
>> the
>> list, but posting a question or a response will require that you be a
>> paid-up WAMUG member or a life member. As most regular users of our list 
>> are
>> already WAMUG members in any case, most of you will not notice any 
>> change.
>> 
>> The move was a frequent suggestion of those who responded to our survey 
>> and
>> is part of the drive to give value to those who pay the WAMUG 
>> subscription.
>> Subscription is currently set at $30 per year. As a non-profit 
>> organization,
>> subscriptions are used to pay for our web hosting, rental of venues and
>> insurance for meetings, and generally to keep WAMUG running.
>> 
>> If you are not currently a WAMUG member please pay your subscription by 
>> the
>> 1st of July if you wish to continue posting to our list and to receive 
>> many
>> other great member benefits that we will be announcing soon. Details on 
>> how
>> to join are available at this link:
>> 
>> http://www.wamug.org.au/join/
>> 
>> We have some exciting changes planned for this year and hope for your
>> continued support of WAMUG.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> WAMUG Committee
>> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List --
>> Archives - 
>> Guidelines - 
>> Settings & Unsubscribe -
>> 
> 
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> Archives - 
> Guidelines - 
> Settings & Unsubscribe -
> 
 
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>>> 
>>> 
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>>> T4 Technology
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> Shop 6, 69 Lockyer Avenue, Albany, WA, 6330
>>> T> 08 9842 9660
>>> F> 08 9842 9664
>>> E> stuart.ev...@t4.com.au
>>> 
>>> BUNBURY
>>> Unit 2/14 Rose Street, Bunbury, WA, 6230
>>> T> 08 9721 9660
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>>> 
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>>> 
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Re: Posting to mailing list soon for WAMUG members only

[David Noel]

-- Did anyone explain how to check whether a membership is currently
paid up, please?

David / Jun 7

==

On 7 June 2012 17:16, Daniel Kerr  wrote:
> Lol they do? :)
>
> Noted, no more emoticons then 8~(
> :p.    :)
> And here I thought I was always on my best behaviour.
>
> Kind regards
> Daniel
> (who wants to buy more hours in the day pleasedo you think Apple can work 
> on that for me please) :)
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone 4s
>
> ---
> Daniel Kerr
> MacWizardry
>
> Phone: 0414 795 960
> Email: 
> Web: 
>
> ** For Everything Apple **
>
> On 07/06/2012, at 2:56 PM, Stuart Evans  wrote:
>
>> Well sometimes your emoticons do appear threatening.    ;-)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 7/06/12 7:47 AM, "Daniel Kerr"  wrote:
>>
>>> LOl,.hadn't released we'd had any cyber bullying or email rage on our 
>>> list,…..
>>> 
>>>
>>> Kind regards
>>> Daniel
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone 4s
>>>
>>> ---
>>> Daniel Kerr
>>> MacWizardry
>>>
>>> Phone: 0414 795 960
>>> Email: 
>>> Web:   
>>>
>>>
>>> **For everything Apple**
>>>
>>> On 07/06/2012, at 7:05 AM, Stuart Breden wrote:
>>>
 Good idea, and it prompted me to immediately pay my subs as well.

 Hopefully this will give better control to the list and stop cyber bulling
 and e-mail rage.

 Stuart Breden
 PO Box 132
 Kalamunda WA 6926
 Ph: (08) 9257 1577
 Mbl: 0417 053 266

 Please consider the environment before printing this email




 On 06/06/2012, at 11:39 AM, WAMUG announcements wrote:

> Hi Wamuggers,
>
> After surveying the mailing list and discussing the matter at a meeting, 
> we
> have decided that as of the 1st July 2012, only WAMUG members will be able
> to post to the WAMUG mailing list. Everyone will still be able to read the
> list, but posting a question or a response will require that you be a
> paid-up WAMUG member or a life member. As most regular users of our list 
> are
> already WAMUG members in any case, most of you will not notice any change.
>
> The move was a frequent suggestion of those who responded to our survey 
> and
> is part of the drive to give value to those who pay the WAMUG 
> subscription.
> Subscription is currently set at $30 per year. As a non-profit 
> organization,
> subscriptions are used to pay for our web hosting, rental of venues and
> insurance for meetings, and generally to keep WAMUG running.
>
> If you are not currently a WAMUG member please pay your subscription by 
> the
> 1st of July if you wish to continue posting to our list and to receive 
> many
> other great member benefits that we will be announcing soon. Details on 
> how
> to join are available at this link:
>
> http://www.wamug.org.au/join/
>
> We have some exciting changes planned for this year and hope for your
> continued support of WAMUG.
>
> Thanks,
> WAMUG Committee
> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List --
> Archives - 
> Guidelines - 
> Settings & Unsubscribe -
> 

 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List --
 Archives - 
 Guidelines - 
 Settings & Unsubscribe -
 
>>>
>>> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List --
>>> Archives - 
>>> Guidelines - 
>>> Settings & Unsubscribe -
>>> 
>>
>>
>> Stuart Evans
>> T4 Technology
>>
>>
>> ALBANY
>> Shop 6, 69 Lockyer Avenue, Albany, WA, 6330
>> T> 08 9842 9660
>> F> 08 9842 9664
>> E> stuart.ev...@t4.com.au
>>
>> BUNBURY
>> Unit 2/14 Rose Street, Bunbury, WA, 6230
>> T> 08 9721 9660
>> F> 08 9842 9664
>>
>> P PLEASE CONSIDER THE ENVIRONMENT BEFORE YOU PRINT THIS E-MAIL
>> 
>> _
>>
>> IMPORTANT INFORMATION: DISCLAIMER
>>
>> This correspondence is for the named person's use only. It may contain
>> confidential or legally privileged
>> information or both. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by
>> any mis-transmission. If you receive
>> this correspondence in error, please immediately delete it from your system
>> and notify the sender. You must
>> not disclose, copy or rely on any part of this correspondence if you are not
>> the intended recipient.
>>
>> Any opinions expressed in this message are those of the individual sender,
>> except where the sender expressly,
>> and with authority, states t

Re: Posting to mailing list soon for WAMUG members only

[Daniel Kerr]

Lol they do? :)

Noted, no more emoticons then 8~( 
:p.:)
And here I thought I was always on my best behaviour. 

Kind regards
Daniel
(who wants to buy more hours in the day pleasedo you think Apple can work 
on that for me please) :)


Sent from my iPhone 4s

---
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MacWizardry

Phone: 0414 795 960
Email: 
Web: 

** For Everything Apple **

On 07/06/2012, at 2:56 PM, Stuart Evans  wrote:

> Well sometimes your emoticons do appear threatening.;-)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 7/06/12 7:47 AM, "Daniel Kerr"  wrote:
> 
>> LOl,.hadn't released we'd had any cyber bullying or email rage on our 
>> list,…..
>> 
>> 
>> Kind regards
>> Daniel
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 4s
>> 
>> ---
>> Daniel Kerr
>> MacWizardry
>> 
>> Phone: 0414 795 960
>> Email: 
>> Web:   
>> 
>> 
>> **For everything Apple**
>> 
>> On 07/06/2012, at 7:05 AM, Stuart Breden wrote:
>> 
>>> Good idea, and it prompted me to immediately pay my subs as well.
>>> 
>>> Hopefully this will give better control to the list and stop cyber bulling
>>> and e-mail rage.
>>> 
>>> Stuart Breden
>>> PO Box 132
>>> Kalamunda WA 6926
>>> Ph: (08) 9257 1577
>>> Mbl: 0417 053 266
>>> 
>>> Please consider the environment before printing this email
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 06/06/2012, at 11:39 AM, WAMUG announcements wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Wamuggers,
 
 After surveying the mailing list and discussing the matter at a meeting, we
 have decided that as of the 1st July 2012, only WAMUG members will be able
 to post to the WAMUG mailing list. Everyone will still be able to read the
 list, but posting a question or a response will require that you be a
 paid-up WAMUG member or a life member. As most regular users of our list 
 are
 already WAMUG members in any case, most of you will not notice any change.
 
 The move was a frequent suggestion of those who responded to our survey and
 is part of the drive to give value to those who pay the WAMUG subscription.
 Subscription is currently set at $30 per year. As a non-profit 
 organization,
 subscriptions are used to pay for our web hosting, rental of venues and
 insurance for meetings, and generally to keep WAMUG running.
 
 If you are not currently a WAMUG member please pay your subscription by the
 1st of July if you wish to continue posting to our list and to receive many
 other great member benefits that we will be announcing soon. Details on how
 to join are available at this link:
 
 http://www.wamug.org.au/join/
 
 We have some exciting changes planned for this year and hope for your
 continued support of WAMUG.
 
 Thanks,
 WAMUG Committee
 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List --
 Archives - 
 Guidelines - 
 Settings & Unsubscribe -
 
>>> 
>>> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List --
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> 
> 
> Stuart Evans
> T4 Technology
> 
> 
> ALBANY
> Shop 6, 69 Lockyer Avenue, Albany, WA, 6330
> T> 08 9842 9660
> F> 08 9842 9664
> E> stuart.ev...@t4.com.au
> 
> BUNBURY
> Unit 2/14 Rose Street, Bunbury, WA, 6230
> T> 08 9721 9660
> F> 08 9842 9664
> 
> P PLEASE CONSIDER THE ENVIRONMENT BEFORE YOU PRINT THIS E-MAIL
> 
> _
> 
> IMPORTANT INFORMATION: DISCLAIMER
> 
> This correspondence is for the named person's use only. It may contain
> confidential or legally privileged
> information or both. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by
> any mis-transmission. If you receive
> this correspondence in error, please immediately delete it from your system
> and notify the sender. You must
> not disclose, copy or rely on any part of this correspondence if you are not
> the intended recipient.
> 
> Any opinions expressed in this message are those of the individual sender,
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> and with authority, states them to be the opinions of T4 Technology.
> 
> Neither the sender nor T4 Technology warrants that any communication via the
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> arising from this electronic mail and

Re: Posting to mailing list soon for WAMUG members only

[Stuart Evans]

Well sometimes your emoticons do appear threatening.;-)




On 7/06/12 7:47 AM, "Daniel Kerr"  wrote:

> LOl,.hadn't released we'd had any cyber bullying or email rage on our list,Š..
> 
> 
> Kind regards
> Daniel
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 4s
> 
> ---
> Daniel Kerr
> MacWizardry
> 
> Phone: 0414 795 960
> Email: 
> Web:   
> 
> 
> **For everything Apple**
> 
> On 07/06/2012, at 7:05 AM, Stuart Breden wrote:
> 
>> Good idea, and it prompted me to immediately pay my subs as well.
>> 
>> Hopefully this will give better control to the list and stop cyber bulling
>> and e-mail rage.
>> 
>> Stuart Breden
>> PO Box 132
>> Kalamunda WA 6926
>> Ph: (08) 9257 1577
>> Mbl: 0417 053 266
>> 
>> Please consider the environment before printing this email
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 06/06/2012, at 11:39 AM, WAMUG announcements wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Wamuggers,
>>> 
>>> After surveying the mailing list and discussing the matter at a meeting, we
>>> have decided that as of the 1st July 2012, only WAMUG members will be able
>>> to post to the WAMUG mailing list. Everyone will still be able to read the
>>> list, but posting a question or a response will require that you be a
>>> paid-up WAMUG member or a life member. As most regular users of our list are
>>> already WAMUG members in any case, most of you will not notice any change.
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>>> The move was a frequent suggestion of those who responded to our survey and
>>> is part of the drive to give value to those who pay the WAMUG subscription.
>>> Subscription is currently set at $30 per year. As a non-profit organization,
>>> subscriptions are used to pay for our web hosting, rental of venues and
>>> insurance for meetings, and generally to keep WAMUG running.
>>> 
>>> If you are not currently a WAMUG member please pay your subscription by the
>>> 1st of July if you wish to continue posting to our list and to receive many
>>> other great member benefits that we will be announcing soon. Details on how
>>> to join are available at this link:
>>> 
>>> http://www.wamug.org.au/join/
>>> 
>>> We have some exciting changes planned for this year and hope for your
>>> continued support of WAMUG.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> WAMUG Committee
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Re: Posting to mailing list soon for WAMUG members only

[Daniel Kerr]

LOl,.hadn't released we'd had any cyber bullying or email rage on our list,….. 


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On 07/06/2012, at 7:05 AM, Stuart Breden wrote:

> Good idea, and it prompted me to immediately pay my subs as well.
> 
> Hopefully this will give better control to the list and stop cyber bulling 
> and e-mail rage.
> 
> Stuart Breden
> PO Box 132
> Kalamunda WA 6926
> Ph: (08) 9257 1577
> Mbl: 0417 053 266
> 
> Please consider the environment before printing this email
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 06/06/2012, at 11:39 AM, WAMUG announcements wrote:
> 
>> Hi Wamuggers,
>> 
>> After surveying the mailing list and discussing the matter at a meeting, we 
>> have decided that as of the 1st July 2012, only WAMUG members will be able 
>> to post to the WAMUG mailing list. Everyone will still be able to read the 
>> list, but posting a question or a response will require that you be a 
>> paid-up WAMUG member or a life member. As most regular users of our list are 
>> already WAMUG members in any case, most of you will not notice any change.
>> 
>> The move was a frequent suggestion of those who responded to our survey and 
>> is part of the drive to give value to those who pay the WAMUG subscription. 
>> Subscription is currently set at $30 per year. As a non-profit organization, 
>> subscriptions are used to pay for our web hosting, rental of venues and 
>> insurance for meetings, and generally to keep WAMUG running.
>> 
>> If you are not currently a WAMUG member please pay your subscription by the 
>> 1st of July if you wish to continue posting to our list and to receive many 
>> other great member benefits that we will be announcing soon. Details on how 
>> to join are available at this link:
>> 
>> http://www.wamug.org.au/join/
>> 
>> We have some exciting changes planned for this year and hope for your 
>> continued support of WAMUG.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> WAMUG Committee
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>> 
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Re: Posting to mailing list soon for WAMUG members only

[Stuart Breden]

Good idea, and it prompted me to immediately pay my subs as well.

Hopefully this will give better control to the list and stop cyber bulling and 
e-mail rage.

Stuart Breden
PO Box 132
Kalamunda WA 6926
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Mbl: 0417 053 266

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On 06/06/2012, at 11:39 AM, WAMUG announcements wrote:

> Hi Wamuggers,
> 
> After surveying the mailing list and discussing the matter at a meeting, we 
> have decided that as of the 1st July 2012, only WAMUG members will be able to 
> post to the WAMUG mailing list. Everyone will still be able to read the list, 
> but posting a question or a response will require that you be a paid-up WAMUG 
> member or a life member. As most regular users of our list are already WAMUG 
> members in any case, most of you will not notice any change.
> 
> The move was a frequent suggestion of those who responded to our survey and 
> is part of the drive to give value to those who pay the WAMUG subscription. 
> Subscription is currently set at $30 per year. As a non-profit organization, 
> subscriptions are used to pay for our web hosting, rental of venues and 
> insurance for meetings, and generally to keep WAMUG running.
> 
> If you are not currently a WAMUG member please pay your subscription by the 
> 1st of July if you wish to continue posting to our list and to receive many 
> other great member benefits that we will be announcing soon. Details on how 
> to join are available at this link:
> 
> http://www.wamug.org.au/join/
> 
> We have some exciting changes planned for this year and hope for your 
> continued support of WAMUG.
> 
> Thanks,
> WAMUG Committee
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Re: Posting to mailing list soon for WAMUG members only

[Barry Sexstone]

G'Day All

How does one check financial status?  Apart from trying to post of course.

Thanks

Barry


On 06/06/2012, at 11:39 AM, WAMUG announcements wrote:

> Hi Wamuggers,
> 
> After surveying the mailing list and discussing the matter at a meeting, we 
> have decided that as of the 1st July 2012, only WAMUG members will be able to 
> post to the WAMUG mailing list. Everyone will still be able to read the list, 
> but posting a question or a response will require that you be a paid-up WAMUG 
> member or a life member. As most regular users of our list are already WAMUG 
> members in any case, most of you will not notice any change.
> 
> The move was a frequent suggestion of those who responded to our survey and 
> is part of the drive to give value to those who pay the WAMUG subscription. 
> Subscription is currently set at $30 per year. As a non-profit organization, 
> subscriptions are used to pay for our web hosting, rental of venues and 
> insurance for meetings, and generally to keep WAMUG running.
> 
> If you are not currently a WAMUG member please pay your subscription by the 
> 1st of July if you wish to continue posting to our list and to receive many 
> other great member benefits that we will be announcing soon. Details on how 
> to join are available at this link:
> 
> http://www.wamug.org.au/join/
> 
> We have some exciting changes planned for this year and hope for your 
> continued support of WAMUG.
> 
> Thanks,
> WAMUG Committee
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Re: Posting to mailing list soon for WAMUG members only

[Bill Parker]

Dear Committee

Joined up.   Problem with the WAMUG name being too long so I abbreviated and it 
worked.
Bill
On 06/06/2012, at 11:39 AM, WAMUG announcements wrote:

> Hi Wamuggers,
> 
> After surveying the mailing list and discussing the matter at a meeting, we 
> have decided that as of the 1st July 2012, only WAMUG members will be able to 
> post to the WAMUG mailing list. Everyone will still be able to read the list, 
> but posting a question or a response will require that you be a paid-up WAMUG 
> member or a life member. As most regular users of our list are already WAMUG 
> members in any case, most of you will not notice any change.
> 
> The move was a frequent suggestion of those who responded to our survey and 
> is part of the drive to give value to those who pay the WAMUG subscription. 
> Subscription is currently set at $30 per year. As a non-profit organization, 
> subscriptions are used to pay for our web hosting, rental of venues and 
> insurance for meetings, and generally to keep WAMUG running.
> 
> If you are not currently a WAMUG member please pay your subscription by the 
> 1st of July if you wish to continue posting to our list and to receive many 
> other great member benefits that we will be announcing soon. Details on how 
> to join are available at this link:
> 
> http://www.wamug.org.au/join/
> 
> We have some exciting changes planned for this year and hope for your 
> continued support of WAMUG.
> 
> Thanks,
> WAMUG Committee
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Re: Posting to mailing list soon for WAMUG members only

[Susan Hastings]

Good idea, and it prompted me to immediately pay my subs as well.

On 06/06/2012, at 11:39 AM, WAMUG announcements wrote:

> Hi Wamuggers,
> 
> After surveying the mailing list and discussing the matter at a meeting, we 
> have decided that as of the 1st July 2012, only WAMUG members will be able to 
> post to the WAMUG mailing list. Everyone will still be able to read the list, 
> but posting a question or a response will require that you be a paid-up WAMUG 
> member or a life member. As most regular users of our list are already WAMUG 
> members in any case, most of you will not notice any change.
> 
> The move was a frequent suggestion of those who responded to our survey and 
> is part of the drive to give value to those who pay the WAMUG subscription. 
> Subscription is currently set at $30 per year. As a non-profit organization, 
> subscriptions are used to pay for our web hosting, rental of venues and 
> insurance for meetings, and generally to keep WAMUG running.
> 
> If you are not currently a WAMUG member please pay your subscription by the 
> 1st of July if you wish to continue posting to our list and to receive many 
> other great member benefits that we will be announcing soon. Details on how 
> to join are available at this link:
> 
> http://www.wamug.org.au/join/
> 
> We have some exciting changes planned for this year and hope for your 
> continued support of WAMUG.
> 
> Thanks,
> WAMUG Committee
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[Susan Hastings]

Good idea, and it prompted me to immediately pay my subs as well.

On 06/06/2012, at 11:39 AM, WAMUG announcements wrote:

> Hi Wamuggers,
> 
> After surveying the mailing list and discussing the matter at a meeting, we 
> have decided that as of the 1st July 2012, only WAMUG members will be able to 
> post to the WAMUG mailing list. Everyone will still be able to read the list, 
> but posting a question or a response will require that you be a paid-up WAMUG 
> member or a life member. As most regular users of our list are already WAMUG 
> members in any case, most of you will not notice any change.
> 
> The move was a frequent suggestion of those who responded to our survey and 
> is part of the drive to give value to those who pay the WAMUG subscription. 
> Subscription is currently set at $30 per year. As a non-profit organization, 
> subscriptions are used to pay for our web hosting, rental of venues and 
> insurance for meetings, and generally to keep WAMUG running.
> 
> If you are not currently a WAMUG member please pay your subscription by the 
> 1st of July if you wish to continue posting to our list and to receive many 
> other great member benefits that we will be announcing soon. Details on how 
> to join are available at this link:
> 
> http://www.wamug.org.au/join/
> 
> We have some exciting changes planned for this year and hope for your 
> continued support of WAMUG.
> 
> Thanks,
> WAMUG Committee
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[Mike Murray]

Good idea
Mike

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On 06/06/2012, at 11:39 AM, WAMUG announcements wrote:

> Hi Wamuggers,
> 
> After surveying the mailing list and discussing the matter at a meeting, we 
> have decided that as of the 1st July 2012, only WAMUG members will be able to 
> post to the WAMUG mailing list. 


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