Whilst I agree with all the points regarding the cost/benefit of membership, one of the points Adrian made was regarding attending flesh ware, face to face, meetings, BBQ's etc., and forgive my assumption Adrian, I think you feel that a discounted membership should be given to people who don't want to join in with the face to face meetings. I see the opposite.
If I recall correctly, the results of the survey indicated that the majority of WAMUG list members did not attend face to face meetings, me included. For me, WAMUG IS the mailing list, and $30 is a pretty reasonable fee. There could be gold coin donation for face to face meetings help cover costs of the bikkies. :-) Tim Sent from my iPad On 10/06/2012, at 2:32 PM, Julie Bedford <jew...@iinet.net.au> wrote: > I also agree with you Daniel. In fact, I don't think Ronni should be > paying a cent. > > Jewels > On 10/06/2012, at 1:57 PM, Stephen Chape wrote: > >> I am with you Daniel. >> PS: When does the year expire for WAMUG ? >> >> On 10/06/2012, at 1:46 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote: >> >>> Hi Adrian >>> >>> I can't speak for the committee, but personally I think the set up >>> is actually pretty good for what is actually "supplied" for the >>> WAMUG list. >>> They have two paid fees, the $30 member's fee and the $120 >>> "corporate" fee. >>> And I personally think the $30 is a bargain! Considering the >>> ongoing running costs to keep everything going from hosting, domain >>> name fees, server maintenance, list maintenance, support etc, let >>> alone all the free given time that the Committee itself puts in for >>> no reimbursement to keep it all running. >>> I doubt you'd find anywhere these days where $30 goes that far. >>> If you call Apple themselves for non Applecare queries, or a one >>> off query you're looking at $99 per incident! Even most places will >>> charge for email or phone support on a one off basis. >>> There's very little these days for free given the cost of living, >>> overheads and every day expenses. It's the nature of the world >>> today unfortunately. >>> I know even Ronni pays her $30/year membership and i think she's >>> asked one query the whole time she's been on list!! lol :o) So >>> she's really paying to give the support! lol ;o) >>> >>> I personally feel that just having the two fees is a lot easier to >>> look after and just makes it more simple given the nature of the >>> mailing list. And as mentioned, this really isn't that much for the >>> amount of help that is received. Realistically I don't think much >>> of the costings are used for non meeting attendees, well bar the >>> new indemnity insurance required unfortunately that WAMUG now >>> requires. >>> >>> Just my take on it. :o) >>> >>> Kind regards >>> Daniel >>> >>> *All comments mentioned above are solely the views of me and are >>> meant in an informative nature from my view point :o) Etc etc legal >>> stuff, etc etc,… ;o) >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone 4s >>> >>> --- >>> Daniel Kerr >>> MacWizardry >>> >>> Phone: 0414 795 960 >>> Email: <daniel AT macwizardry.com.au> >>> Web: <http://www.macwizardry.com.au> >>> >>> >>> **For everything Apple** >>> >>> On 09/06/2012, at 10:14 AM, iCloud wrote: >>> >>>> Good morning all, >>>> >>>> For some time now I have wondering if the committee has given any >>>> thought to having an associate membership (for the want of a >>>> better term) with a reduced fee that would allow elder members >>>> i.e. pensioners and others on a fixed income or even those in more >>>> remote areas, to seek occasional assistance, I don't think there >>>> would be many, if any, that would begrudge paying a fee for the >>>> amazing help that is so often forthcoming on the list. I also >>>> think another point that may be worth considering is that many of >>>> the aforementioned are not able to attend the groups meetings or >>>> functions either at all or even occasionally. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> >>>> Adrian >>>> >>>> adrianske...@me.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 06/06/2012, at 11:39 AM, WAMUG announcements wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Wamuggers, >>>>> >>>>> After surveying the mailing list and discussing the matter at a >>>>> meeting, we have decided that as of the 1st July 2012, only WAMUG >>>>> members will be able to post to the WAMUG mailing list. Everyone >>>>> will still be able to read the list, but posting a question or a >>>>> response will require that you be a paid-up WAMUG member or a >>>>> life member. As most regular users of our list are already WAMUG >>>>> members in any case, most of you will not notice any change. >>>>> >>>>> The move was a frequent suggestion of those who responded to our >>>>> survey and is part of the drive to give value to those who pay >>>>> the WAMUG subscription. Subscription is currently set at $30 per >>>>> year. As a non-profit organization, subscriptions are used to pay >>>>> for our web hosting, rental of venues and insurance for meetings, >>>>> and generally to keep WAMUG running. >>>>> >>>>> If you are not currently a WAMUG member please pay your >>>>> subscription by the 1st of July if you wish to continue posting >>>>> to our list and to receive many other great member benefits that >>>>> we will be announcing soon. Details on how to join are available >>>>> at this link: >>>>> >>>>> http://www.wamug.org.au/join/ >>>>> >>>>> We have some exciting changes planned for this year and hope for >>>>> your continued support of WAMUG. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> WAMUG Committee >>>>> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >>>>> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >>>>> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >>>>> Settings & Unsubscribe - >>>>> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug >>>>>> >>>> >>>> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >>>> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >>>> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >>>> Settings & Unsubscribe - >>>> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug >>>>> >>> >>> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >>> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >>> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >>> Settings & Unsubscribe - >>> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug >>>> >> >> >> Regards, >> Stephen Chape >> >> >> >> >> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >> Settings & Unsubscribe - >> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug >>> > > -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- > Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> > Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> > Settings & Unsubscribe - > <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> Settings & Unsubscribe - <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug>
