Re: Spam Filter.

[Paul Kitchener]

Malcolm McCallum wrote:

Hi everyone. I am curious to know if my actions in regard to Westnet's 
spam filter is the same as everyone else. When I first employed the 
filter I religiously read the 'email' of spams they sent me but as my 
recall rate was virtually nil I now delete the email which shows the 
spam mail I have received without reading it.  :-(  Is  this the a 
common practice?



Hi Mac

I am no longer with Westnet but I remember using the spam filter service.
It is a Sophos product I believe.

I used it pretty much as you do, I would quickly scan down the list to 
look for any familiar names, you know, ones that don't look like Hartog 
D. Pennythrift etc.


I usually only found the odd one from WAMUG really.
The longer I did this the less mistakes it made, quite good I found, but 
certainly not one in a million. More like one in five hundred.

This did not take too long.

Nowadays I'm just using gmail and to my knowledge it's filter hasn't 
made a mistake yet.


HTH

Paul

Re: Spam Filter.

[Steven]

Steve, I don't disagree with your logic, but I have a filter operating and
although I do check the junk mail folder regularly, it can be done at a
convenient time, rather than my inbox alerting me of incoming email every
few minutes and annoying the cr*p outta me.

I use Entourage and employ its junk mail filter on low setting. Works pretty
well.

Cheers, Steven 


On 12/3/07 7:31 PM, "Stephen Chape" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I have considered installing a spam filter also, but I cannot
> understand the point if you still have to go through the emails
> anyway just to make sure it's done the job correctly. Might just as
> well go through them in the Inbox and delete them myself.
> 
> On 12/03/2007, at 1:35 PM, Malcolm McCallum wrote:
> 
>> Hi everyone. I am curious to know if my actions in regard to
>> Westnet's spam filter is the same as everyone else. When I first
>> employed the filter I religiously read the 'email' of spams they
>> sent me but as my recall rate was virtually nil I now delete the
>> email which shows the spam mail I have received without reading
>> it.  :-(  Is  this the a common practice?
>> \
>> Mac
>> Malcolm McCallum
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Skype docmactor
>> 
> Regards,
> Stephen Chape

Re: Spam Filter.

[Stephen Chape]

I have considered installing a spam filter also, but I cannot  
understand the point if you still have to go through the emails  
anyway just to make sure it's done the job correctly. Might just as  
well go through them in the Inbox and delete them myself.


On 12/03/2007, at 1:35 PM, Malcolm McCallum wrote:

Hi everyone. I am curious to know if my actions in regard to  
Westnet's spam filter is the same as everyone else. When I first  
employed the filter I religiously read the 'email' of spams they  
sent me but as my recall rate was virtually nil I now delete the  
email which shows the spam mail I have received without reading  
it.  :-(  Is  this the a common practice?

\
Mac
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Stephen Chape

Re: Spam Filter.

[Malcolm McCallum]

My point Adam,I do not even check apart from an ultra-rapid down the  
list.

Mac
On 12/03/2007, at 4:24 PM, Adam Hewitt wrote:

I am not 100% sure of the SPAM filters currently used by Westnet  
however I am fairly sure that they are the same appliances that are  
used by iiNet. These devices barely even utilize baysian filters  
but use a global network of probes to monitor email traffic  
patterns and can block connections before they even get to the  
email servers based on the IP address the connection is being  
created from. They cost hundreds of thousands of dollars and have a  
false positive rate of under 1 in 1 million emails.


Based on this information I would recommend changing the delivery  
options in your account tools to delete the spam emails before they  
even get to your inbox, that way you aren't paying for spammers to  
use your bandwidth. I have been doing this for roughly a year and I  
am yet to find out that I have missed an email. Lets face it, email  
is not a reliable enough medium where people are using it to the  
point that missing an email would be the end of the world, so even  
if you do miss one email in a million chances are it wont matter.


Adam.

On 12/03/2007, at 1:35 PM, Malcolm McCallum wrote:

Hi everyone. I am curious to know if my actions in regard to  
Westnet's spam filter is the same as everyone else. When I first  
employed the filter I religiously read the 'email' of spams they  
sent me but as my recall rate was virtually nil I now delete the  
email which shows the spam mail I have received without reading  
it.  :-(  Is  this the a common practice?

\
Mac
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Re: Spam Filter.

[Malcolm McCallum]

I would only find the very,very occasional mistake :-0
Mac
On 12/03/2007, at 2:34 PM, Lloyd White wrote:


Hi Mac,

I use Entourage which has its own spam filter - partially effective  
- and
also have SpamSieve which is far more efficient and dumps it all in  
my Junk

folder.

BUT it makes mistakes and dumps ordinary mail there too. A lot of  
orders for
my book get dumped! I am not sure what triggers it but I have to  
check each

spam or junk before deleting it . Rather defeats the purpose.

Lloyd .





Hi everyone. I am curious to know if my actions in regard to
Westnet's spam filter is the same as everyone else. When I first
employed the filter I religiously read the 'email' of spams they sent
me but as my recall rate was virtually nil I now delete the email
which shows the spam mail I have received without reading it.  :-
(  Is  this the a common practice?
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Re: Spam Filter.

[Adam Hewitt]

I am not 100% sure of the SPAM filters currently used by Westnet  
however I am fairly sure that they are the same appliances that are  
used by iiNet. These devices barely even utilize baysian filters but  
use a global network of probes to monitor email traffic patterns and  
can block connections before they even get to the email servers based  
on the IP address the connection is being created from. They cost  
hundreds of thousands of dollars and have a false positive rate of  
under 1 in 1 million emails.


Based on this information I would recommend changing the delivery  
options in your account tools to delete the spam emails before they  
even get to your inbox, that way you aren't paying for spammers to  
use your bandwidth. I have been doing this for roughly a year and I  
am yet to find out that I have missed an email. Lets face it, email  
is not a reliable enough medium where people are using it to the  
point that missing an email would be the end of the world, so even if  
you do miss one email in a million chances are it wont matter.


Adam.

On 12/03/2007, at 1:35 PM, Malcolm McCallum wrote:

Hi everyone. I am curious to know if my actions in regard to  
Westnet's spam filter is the same as everyone else. When I first  
employed the filter I religiously read the 'email' of spams they  
sent me but as my recall rate was virtually nil I now delete the  
email which shows the spam mail I have received without reading  
it.  :-(  Is  this the a common practice?

\
Mac
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Re: Spam Filter.

[Robert Howells]

On 12/03/2007, at 1:34 PM, Lloyd White wrote:


Hi Mac,

I use Entourage which has its own spam filter - partially effective  
- and
also have SpamSieve which is far more efficient and dumps it all in  
my Junk

folder.

BUT it makes mistakes and dumps ordinary mail there too. A lot of  
orders for
my book get dumped! I am not sure what triggers it but I have to  
check each

spam or junk before deleting it . Rather defeats the purpose.

Lloyd .




Using Mail I employ   " rules "  which have been expanded until they  
catch 95% plus of junk

and direct it into  Junk   mail box .

Mailboxes have been set to show sender , addressee and subject .

Just looking at the Junk mail box index I can pick the odd real  
message and drag to the inbox.


NO need to read the junk , just clear the box with   option Apple J
and an OK .


Bob

Re: Spam Filter.

[Lloyd White]

Hi Mac,

I use Entourage which has its own spam filter - partially effective - and
also have SpamSieve which is far more efficient and dumps it all in my Junk
folder. 

BUT it makes mistakes and dumps ordinary mail there too. A lot of orders for
my book get dumped! I am not sure what triggers it but I have to check each
spam or junk before deleting it . Rather defeats the purpose.

Lloyd .




> Hi everyone. I am curious to know if my actions in regard to
> Westnet's spam filter is the same as everyone else. When I first
> employed the filter I religiously read the 'email' of spams they sent
> me but as my recall rate was virtually nil I now delete the email
> which shows the spam mail I have received without reading it.  :-
> (  Is  this the a common practice?
> \
> Mac
> Malcolm McCallum
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Skype docmactor
> 
> 
> 
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