RE: Win2K needs visible file extensions
Hmm, I'll give it a go Onno, but I think I'll have the same issue with the Mac files not having file extensions and thus showing up with generic icons under Windows 2k. Cheers, Tobes. -- From: Onno Benschop Sent: Thursday, 6 May 2004 6:14 PM To: WAMUG Mailing List Subject: Re: Win2K needs visible file extensions On Thu, 2004-05-06 at 20:00, Onno Benschop wrote: On Thu, 2004-05-06 at 19:10, Oldham, Toby wrote: Mmm, thanks Rob. Whaddya say Onno, how much would this cost me? I haven't followed the whole tread I think, but are you moving files from OS X to Win and need extensions added to each file name? Replying to myself :-) Yes, that appears to be what you're doing... Any reason you cannot share the files on OSX using Samba, then copy them to the Win2000 server? Onno Benschop Connected via Optus B3 at S28°38'23 - E153°13'27 (Bishop's Creek, NSW) -- ()/)/)()..ASCII for Onno.. |?..EBCDIC for Onno.. --- -. -. --- ..Morse for Onno.. Proudly supported by Skipper Trucks, Highway1, Concept AV, Sony Central, Dalcon ITmaze - ABN: 56 178 057 063 - ph: 04 1219 - onno at itmaze dot com dot au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WAMUG is powered by Stalker CommuniGatePro
Re: Win2K needs visible file extensions
At Fri, May 7, 2004 10:13 am, Oldham, Toby wrote: Hmm, I'll give it a go Onno, but I think I'll have the same issue with the Mac files not having file extensions and thus showing up with generic icons under Windows 2k. Toby, have you had a look at NameCleaner? http://www.sigsoftware.com/namecleaner/index.html There's an OSX and a classic version. Should do what you want for a small ($25US) shareware fee. HTH -- Steve Woods mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Systems Engineer http://www.scibi.com.au SciBi Computing Pty Ltd Ph:0411 258 619 ABN: 19 105 976 654 ACN: 105 976 654
RE: Win2K needs visible file extensions
On Fri, 2004-05-07 at 12:13, Oldham, Toby wrote: Hmm, I'll give it a go Onno, but I think I'll have the same issue with the Mac files not having file extensions and thus showing up with generic icons under Windows 2k. Don't get me wrong, I can write you a script, would take about an hour or so, but if something already exists, why invent the wheel? Cheers, Onno Benschop Connected via Optus B3 at S28°38'23 - E153°13'27 (Bishop's Creek, NSW) -- ()/)/)()..ASCII for Onno.. |?..EBCDIC for Onno.. --- -. -. --- ..Morse for Onno.. Proudly supported by Skipper Trucks, Highway1, Concept AV, Sony Central, Dalcon ITmaze - ABN: 56 178 057 063 - ph: 04 1219 - onno at itmaze dot com dot au
RE: Win2K needs visible file extensions
Ah ... Steve, you're a legend. Quick test run I did looks great. Thanks everyone who assisted - as you said Onno, why re-invent the wheel. :) T. -- From: Steve Woods Sent: Friday, 7 May 2004 10:38 AM To: WAMUG Mailing List Subject: Re: Win2K needs visible file extensions At Fri, May 7, 2004 10:13 am, Oldham, Toby wrote: Hmm, I'll give it a go Onno, but I think I'll have the same issue with the Mac files not having file extensions and thus showing up with generic icons under Windows 2k. Toby, have you had a look at NameCleaner? http://www.sigsoftware.com/namecleaner/index.html There's an OSX and a classic version. Should do what you want for a small ($25US) shareware fee. HTH -- Steve Woods mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Systems Engineer http://www.scibi.com.au SciBi Computing Pty Ltd Ph:0411 258 619 ABN: 19 105 976 654 ACN: 105 976 654 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WAMUG is powered by Stalker CommuniGatePro
Re: Win2K needs visible file extensions
Howdy 'IF' in fact the files now have their extensions (.xxx) and windoze just isn't displaying them: Go to the control panel, open Folder Options, click the View tab, uncheck the 'Hide extensions for known file types' setting. This option persists through all versions of windoze, go figure. I believe this is one of the first things I always perform after an installation. Good Luck Paul PS. While you are there uncheck 'Enable Offline Files' too, painful otherwise.
Re: Win2K needs visible file extensions
There's a Folder feature (tick box, see Properties of Folders) that says show extensions or not Mark S. - Original Message - From: Oldham, Toby [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au Sent: Thursday, 6 May 2004 16:03 Subject: Win2K needs visible file extensions Metadata wil be the death of me yet. Does anyone know (outside of Maclink Plus) if there's a way of re-writing files en masse so they display their file extension? Windows 2000 doesn't recognise the mac files I have without visible file extensions - it gives them a generic windows icon. If a file has a .extension it displays the file correctly, but the freaking thing then has the gall to _hide_ the file extension on the windows box. Talk about two faced. I need the files to display correctly for my users who panic when they can't visuallly recognise their files. Maclink Plus Deluxe can translate files and attach file extensions, but it changes the creation date in doing so, which once again confuses users. Any thoughts, once again, gratefully appreciated. Cheers, Tobes. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WAMUG is powered by Stalker CommuniGatePro
RE: Win2K needs visible file extensions
Mm, Under Windows? There's the option under OS X, but if the file name doesn't already have the extension then nothing is displayed (I'm assuming the MacOS determines what he file is by using some other metadata info). Any MS Word file on my mac with .doc at the end will display correctly with the MS Word icon. Turning on 'show all file extentions' on my mac doesn't create file extensions in the filename if it wasn't already there (as far as I can see anyway - But hey, if I've missed something obvious please let me know :) . It's not that important to see the file extension under Windows, as long as the icon's display correctly. Cheers, Tobes. -- From: Mark Scholmann Reply To: Mark Scholmann Sent: Thursday, 6 May 2004 4:03 PM To: WAMUG Mailing List; Oldham, Toby Subject: Re: Win2K needs visible file extensions There's a Folder feature (tick box, see Properties of Folders) that says show extensions or not Mark S. - Original Message - From: Oldham, Toby [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au Sent: Thursday, 6 May 2004 16:03 Subject: Win2K needs visible file extensions Metadata wil be the death of me yet. Does anyone know (outside of Maclink Plus) if there's a way of re-writing files en masse so they display their file extension? Windows 2000 doesn't recognise the mac files I have without visible file extensions - it gives them a generic windows icon. If a file has a .extension it displays the file correctly, but the freaking thing then has the gall to _hide_ the file extension on the windows box. Talk about two faced. I need the files to display correctly for my users who panic when they can't visuallly recognise their files. Maclink Plus Deluxe can translate files and attach file extensions, but it changes the creation date in doing so, which once again confuses users. Any thoughts, once again, gratefully appreciated. Cheers, Tobes. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WAMUG is powered by Stalker CommuniGatePro
RE: Win2K needs visible file extensions
Hi Rob, that's from Script Menu yeah? Unfortunately, it doesn't read what file extension a file should have, it just allow you to arbitrarily add one of your own. It also doesn't do subfolders. I have to amend 12Gigs worth of files ... it'd take me forever. :) I can't help you with the file types. If you knew the file type, you could get a unix guru to write a grep command too change all files. You could get a programmer type to write something to traverse the folder tree, get the file type from the file's resource fork, look up the equivalent file extension in some sort of table and then add this to the file name. Someone like Onno could do this easily. Rob Cheers, Tobes. -- From: Rob Phillips Sent: Thursday, 6 May 2004 4:29 PM To:Oldham, Toby Subject: RE: Win2K needs visible file extensions I was thinking there must be Applescripts, but I'm not sure where to start looking. :} T. Applications:AppleScript:Example Scripts:Finder Scripts: Add to File Names.scpt Add Prefix-Suffix to File Names This script is designed to add a prefix or suffix to files in the front window of the desktop. If no folder windows are open, the script will effect items on the desktop. At 4:21 PM +0800 6/5/04, Oldham, Toby wrote: If a file has a .extension it displays the file correctly, but the freaking thing then has the gall to _hide_ the file extension on the windows box. Talk about two faced. Sure, you need to change the names of the files first, but once onto Wintel, you can choose whether to see them or not. Rob -- --- Dr Rob Phillips, Senior Lecturer,[EMAIL PROTECTED] Room 4.38 Teaching and Learning Centre, Library North Wing Murdoch University, South St, Murdoch, 6150, Perth, AUS Phone: +61 8 9360 6054 Mobile: 0416 065 054 Chair, 2004 ASCILITE Conference, http://www.ascilite.org.au/conferences/perth04/ --- -- --- Dr Rob Phillips, Senior Lecturer,[EMAIL PROTECTED] Room 4.38 Teaching and Learning Centre, Library North Wing Murdoch University, South St, Murdoch, 6150, Perth, AUS Phone: +61 8 9360 6054 Mobile: 0416 065 054 Chair, 2004 ASCILITE Conference, http://www.ascilite.org.au/conferences/perth04/ ---
RE: Win2K needs visible file extensions
Mmm, thanks Rob. Whaddya say Onno, how much would this cost me? Cheers, Tobes. -- From: Rob Phillips Sent: Thursday, 6 May 2004 4:53 PM To: WAMUG Mailing List Subject: Re: Win2K needs visible file extensions Hi Rob, that's from Script Menu yeah? Unfortunately, it doesn't read what file extension a file should have, it just allow you to arbitrarily add one of your own. It also doesn't do subfolders. I have to amend 12Gigs worth of files ... it'd take me forever. :) I can't help you with the file types. If you knew the file type, you could get a unix guru to write a grep command too change all files. You could get a programmer type to write something to traverse the folder tree, get the file type from the file's resource fork, look up the equivalent file extension in some sort of table and then add this to the file name. Someone like Onno could do this easily. Rob Cheers, Tobes. -- From: Rob Phillips Sent: Thursday, 6 May 2004 4:29 PM To: Oldham, Toby Subject: RE: Win2K needs visible file extensions I was thinking there must be Applescripts, but I'm not sure where to start looking. :} T. Applications:AppleScript:Example Scripts:Finder Scripts: Add to File Names.scpt Add Prefix-Suffix to File Names This script is designed to add a prefix or suffix to files in the front window of the desktop. If no folder windows are open, the script will effect items on the desktop. At 4:21 PM +0800 6/5/04, Oldham, Toby wrote: If a file has a .extension it displays the file correctly, but the freaking thing then has the gall to _hide_ the file extension on the windows box. Talk about two faced. Sure, you need to change the names of the files first, but once onto Wintel, you can choose whether to see them or not. Rob -- --- Dr Rob Phillips, Senior Lecturer,[EMAIL PROTECTED] Room 4.38 Teaching and Learning Centre, Library North Wing Murdoch University, South St, Murdoch, 6150, Perth, AUS Phone: +61 8 9360 6054 Mobile: 0416 065 054 Chair, 2004 ASCILITE Conference, http://www.ascilite.org.au/conferences/perth04/ --- -- --- Dr Rob Phillips, Senior Lecturer,[EMAIL PROTECTED] Room 4.38 Teaching and Learning Centre, Library North Wing Murdoch University, South St, Murdoch, 6150, Perth, AUS Phone: +61 8 9360 6054Mobile: 0416 065 054 Chair, 2004 ASCILITE Conference, http://www.ascilite.org.au/conferences/perth04/ --- -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WAMUG is powered by Stalker CommuniGatePro
Re: Win2K needs visible file extensions
On Thu, 2004-05-06 at 19:10, Oldham, Toby wrote: Mmm, thanks Rob. Whaddya say Onno, how much would this cost me? I haven't followed the whole tread I think, but are you moving files from OS X to Win and need extensions added to each file name? Onno Benschop Connected via Optus B3 at S28°38'23 - E153°13'27 (Bishop's Creek, NSW) -- ()/)/)()..ASCII for Onno.. |?..EBCDIC for Onno.. --- -. -. --- ..Morse for Onno.. Proudly supported by Skipper Trucks, Highway1, Concept AV, Sony Central, Dalcon ITmaze - ABN: 56 178 057 063 - ph: 04 1219 - onno at itmaze dot com dot au
Re: Win2K needs visible file extensions
On Thu, 2004-05-06 at 20:00, Onno Benschop wrote: On Thu, 2004-05-06 at 19:10, Oldham, Toby wrote: Mmm, thanks Rob. Whaddya say Onno, how much would this cost me? I haven't followed the whole tread I think, but are you moving files from OS X to Win and need extensions added to each file name? Replying to myself :-) Yes, that appears to be what you're doing... Any reason you cannot share the files on OSX using Samba, then copy them to the Win2000 server? Onno Benschop Connected via Optus B3 at S28°38'23 - E153°13'27 (Bishop's Creek, NSW) -- ()/)/)()..ASCII for Onno.. |?..EBCDIC for Onno.. --- -. -. --- ..Morse for Onno.. Proudly supported by Skipper Trucks, Highway1, Concept AV, Sony Central, Dalcon ITmaze - ABN: 56 178 057 063 - ph: 04 1219 - onno at itmaze dot com dot au
Re: Win2K needs visible file extensions
On Thu, 2004-05-06 at 16:21, Oldham, Toby wrote: Mm, Under Windows? There's the option under OS X, but if the file name doesn't already have the extension then nothing is displayed (I'm assuming the MacOS determines what he file is by using some other metadata info). Under Windows, you can enable the display of file extensions from one of the menus available from an open folder window. I think it's folder options in the View menu, then there's a set of radio buttons hide all extensions, hide extensions of known file types or show all extensions - something like that. Sorry for the fuzzy instructions - I don't use Windows reguarly, and all the systems I do use have had that option set for so long I can hardly remember how to change it. Craig Ringer
