Re: Was: Wanted Startup Disk for Apple Iic or e now AppleWorks Startup Program

2004-12-08 Thread Greg Sharp
It took a lot longer to organise than I thought it would, but at last it
appears everything has been sorted out as far as sourcing the required
disks.

I'd like to thank everybody who offered help both on list and privately.

This episode demonstrated one of the great reasons for belonging to a Mac
User Group. In the beginning this invalid pensioner had her AppleWorks
Startup disk destroyed by her grandkids. As a housebound pensioner one of
her only means of entertainment (her old Apple Iic) couldn't be used. She
lives in Sydney and when she called Apple they gave her the phone numbers to
all 3 of the Sydney Mac User Groups.

The first 2 she rang laughed and said no way they would be able to help so
by the time she called the Sydney Mac Users Group which I also run and I
heard her story I wanted to help.

I also run the Australian Mac Users Group (whose aim is to help ALL
Australian Mac User Groups and Mac users) and try to monitor/get involved
with all the various Mac Groups in Australia. This is where WAMUG comes in.
Of all the Australian groups I feel WAMUG has the best email list and a
great membership based on my observations. It may seem strange with me being
in Sydney but WAMUG was my first choice in seeking help.

Despite a number of hick ups I got numerous offers of help. I'd like to
publicly thank James/Hans Kurt, John Weekes, Andrew Nielson for their offers
Kathy Quinlan, Rod, Robert Howells, Peter Hinchcliffe, Reg Whitely, Tom
Lewis, Rod Finlay, Jon Davison for their suggestions (hope I didn't miss
anyone) and James Fraser for eventually copying the disks and contacting the
lady about the disks. The interesting thing is that James Fraser lives in
Tasmania. It's funny that a Sydney Group went to a Western Australian Group
to be helped by a Tasmanian. This whole process shows what can be achieved
when Mac Users get together. It might seem minor to most people but to the
lady involved it was a small miracle.

All the best
Greg Sharp
President/Webmaster
Australian Mac Users Group (AUSMUG)
http://australian.macusersgroup.org



Re: Was: Wanted Startup Disk for Apple Iic or e now AppleworksStartup Program

2004-11-18 Thread Peter Hinchliffe


On 17/11/2004, at 11:17 AM, Greg Sharp wrote:

So what I'm looking for is actually a 5.25 inch Appleworks Program 
Disk on
one side and Appleworks Startup on the other. Reading back to me from 
her

damaged original disk it stated for 2e or 2c ProDOS etc691-007-B

I'm sorry for the inconvenience especially to those who responded on 
and off

list but still hope somebody can help.

Thanks
Greg Sharp



What version of AppleWorks? I think it got to v4, and then went to 3.5 
format because it got too big for floppies.


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Re: Was: Wanted Startup Disk for Apple Iic or e now AppleworksStartup Program

2004-11-18 Thread Robert Howells


o what I'm looking for is actually a 5.25 inch Appleworks Program 
Disk on
one side and Appleworks Startup on the other. Reading back to me from 
her

damaged original disk it stated for 2e or 2c ProDOS etc691-007-B

I'm sorry for the inconvenience especially to those who responded on 
and off

list but still hope somebody can help.

Thanks
Greg Sharp



What version of AppleWorks? I think it got to v4, and then went to 
3.5 format because it got too big for floppies.


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Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services


errr
Was it not Claris works to start with, or were they using the 
Appleworks name before that ?


Think I have a Claris version 2 on 3.5 floppy if that is any help


Bob



Re: Was: Wanted Startup Disk for Apple Iic or e now AppleworksStartup Program

2004-11-18 Thread Rod



On 18/11/04 8:27 AM, Robert Howells [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 o what I'm looking for is actually a 5.25 inch Appleworks Program
 Disk on
 one side and Appleworks Startup on the other. Reading back to me from
 her
 damaged original disk it stated for 2e or 2c ProDOS etc691-007-B
 
 I'm sorry for the inconvenience especially to those who responded on
 and off
 list but still hope somebody can help.
 
 Thanks
 Greg Sharp
 
 
 What version of AppleWorks? I think it got to v4, and then went to
 3.5 format because it got too big for floppies.
 
 --
 Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
 
 errr
 Was it not Claris works to start with, or were they using the
 Appleworks name before that ?
 
 Think I have a Claris version 2 on 3.5 floppy if that is any help
 
 
 Bob


As the Americans like to say, 'Back in the day' before the Mac, the Apple II
series used AppleWorks.  I think once the Mac came on the scene, AppleWorks
may have been spun off into its own division and became Clarisworks.  By the
time version 5 came around, the software had reverted back to Appleworks.
From memory there was a text version for the II c/e series, and a graphic
version for the IIGS.

If I am wrong, can the Apple historians on the list please correct me!

Seeya

Rod!




Re: Was: Wanted Startup Disk for Apple Iic or e now AppleworksStartup Program

2004-11-18 Thread Greg Sharp
I'll have to get back to the lady again to confirm but I have had a number
of offers so I'm sure I should be able to sort this out.

From my reading Appleworks first came out in 1983 and went through many
incarnations eg v1.2, v1.3, v2 . From version 3 Claris was formed to look
after it up until recently when Appleworks went back to Apple's direct
control. I imagine this lady is after one of the version 1 or 2 versions
since I think by v3 it went to 3 1/2 inch disks (though 5.25 inch disks
could be specially ordered) but I could end up being proved wrong.

Unfortunately my first Mac was an LC575. Prior to this I had been using
punch cards on a DEC VAX System. After getting the LC575 I could never face
the thought of going back to anything more primitive. Now days I even find
my G4's struggling to keep up with my needs and will soon have to upgrade a
number of them to G5's. I guess whatever you use comes down to what you want
to do. I run about 13 Macs on my home network and I'm always complaining
about needing more.

Thanks
Greg Sharp


On 18/11/04 11:54 AM, Rod [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 As the Americans like to say, 'Back in the day' before the Mac, the Apple II
 series used AppleWorks.  I think once the Mac came on the scene, AppleWorks
 may have been spun off into its own division and became Clarisworks.  By the
 time version 5 came around, the software had reverted back to Appleworks.
 From memory there was a text version for the II c/e series, and a graphic
 version for the IIGS.
 
 If I am wrong, can the Apple historians on the list please correct me!
 
 Seeya
 
 Rod!



Re: Was: Wanted Startup Disk for Apple Iic or e nowAppleworksStartup Program

2004-11-18 Thread Kathy Quinlan

Greg Sharp wrote:



Unfortunately my first Mac was an LC575. Prior to this I had been using
punch cards on a DEC VAX System. After getting the LC575 I could never face
the thought of going back to anything more primitive. Now days I even find
my G4's struggling to keep up with my needs and will soon have to upgrade a
number of them to G5's. I guess whatever you use comes down to what you want
to do. I run about 13 Macs on my home network and I'm always complaining
about needing more.

Thanks
Greg Sharp


Hey Greg somewhere I have a punch card reader and writter (punch 
machine) that uses RS-422 that I used to run on my LC :) Great for nerd 
get togethers ;)


I know the feeling re lack of computers, I have 20 here atm on the 
network and I just can never find what I want (I have one drive on each 
PC mapped to one unix server then all the other drives mapped under that 
shared directory, had to take this route as I was running out of drive 
letters in M$ winblows :(


Regards,

Kat.


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Re: Wanted Startup Disk for Apple Iic or e

2004-11-17 Thread Rod
On 16/11/04 11:21 PM, Rob Findlay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I bet Computer Trade Centre in Walcott St have one. Anthony there has a
 startup disk for every Mac ever made I think. 9271 0166.
 Rob
 

I know who definitely has one - Peter Hinchcliffe!  I'm sure I saw one
amongst the extra Apple II stuff I put in his IIG collection.

Seeya

Rod!




Was: Wanted Startup Disk for Apple Iic or e now Appleworks Startup Program

2004-11-17 Thread Greg Sharp
I'm sorry for all the hassle everyone but can you please IGNORE my previous
posts.

I got back to the lady and queried her over a point raised by someone on the
lists where it was suggested doesn't she mean AppleWorks Startup  with
Appleworks program on other side not System Startup since she claims it's a
double sided disk because the System Disk is only single sided.

Sure enough she had given me the wrong info.

So what I'm looking for is actually a 5.25 inch Appleworks Program Disk on
one side and Appleworks Startup on the other. Reading back to me from her
damaged original disk it stated for 2e or 2c ProDOS etc691-007-B

I'm sorry for the inconvenience especially to those who responded on and off
list but still hope somebody can help.

Thanks
Greg Sharp



Re: Wanted Startup Disk for Apple Iic or e

2004-11-16 Thread Tom Lewis
Actually one can get such things in the NT too - that being a liberated
Territory too.;)

Have you tried school computing teachers?  When I was in charge of a Mac
school network we had whole heaps of stuff like that stored away...

Tom Lewis
Canberra









Re: Wanted Startup Disk for Apple Iic or e

2004-11-16 Thread Kathy Quinlan

Tom Lewis wrote:


Actually one can get such things in the NT too - that being a liberated
Territory too.;)

Have you tried school computing teachers?  When I was in charge of a Mac
school network we had whole heaps of stuff like that stored away...

Tom Lewis
Canberra


Hey tom you seem to move around a bit mate ;)

Well if I am reading correct, are we talking of the IIE as in the all in 
one keyboard and cpu box with a green mono monitor ?


If so try saintbridgids college in Lesmurdie, they MAY still have a boot 
disk, I know in the mid 90's they were still running the IIE's


Regards,

Kat.
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Re: Wanted Startup Disk for Apple Iic or e

2004-11-16 Thread Rob Findlay
I bet Computer Trade Centre in Walcott St have one. Anthony there has a
startup disk for every Mac ever made I think. 9271 0166.
Rob




Re: Wanted Startup Disk for Apple Iic or e

2004-11-15 Thread Greg Sharp
I feel a right goose. I've cleaned up the subject line. Teach me to make
posts while watching Futurama.

All the best
Greg Sharp

On 15/11/04 10:01 AM, Rod [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I think you kinda missed the point on Andrew's post Greg.  Have another look
 at your subject line..



Re: Wanted Startup Disk for Apple Iic or e

2004-11-15 Thread Reg Whitely

So Greg

You've cleaned up the subject line and got even less response? What do 
you need to do now to get your answer?  ;-))


 I used to teach kids with a BBC Acorn Model A with a 5.25 floppy 
drive, back when floppy meant floppy. We plugged a Commstar 
communications chip into it and logged in to Telecom's Viatel to do 
PEAC studies. Of course the Model A didn't have the chips in it to 
connect to the phone connection (First Nice Modem - 200 baud) and it 
took me all weekend trying and retrying all the settings to realise it 
wouldn't do it - so it was sent off to Perth from sunny little 
Burracoppin to have its right hemisphere installed. Wow, that was in 
1985!


Regards

Reg

On 15 Nov 2004, at 5:36pm, Greg Sharp wrote:

I feel a right goose. I've cleaned up the subject line. Teach me to 
make

posts while watching Futurama.

All the best
Greg Sharp

On 15/11/04 10:01 AM, Rod [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I think you kinda missed the point on Andrew's post Greg.  Have 
another look

at your subject line..



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