Re: silverlight?

2011-03-27 Thread Peter Hinchliffe


On 26/03/2011, at 4:13 PM, cm wrote:

> 
> Hi Pedro,
> 
> In addition to what Daniel said, Silverlight is Microsofts attempt to 
> replicate Adobe Flash. It copies most of the functionality of Flash and works 
> in a similar fashion. As usual it is Microsofts attempt to enter an existing 
> market by plagiarising the market leader.
> 
> Microsoft itself has indicated that they are moving to HTML 5, so the years 
> of Silverlight may be numbered.
> 
> Cheers,
> Carlo
> 

There's another aspect to Silverlight which has not been mentioned, which is 
that of DRM (Digital Rights Management, or copy-protection). I do know (because 
they say so in their FAQ) that Foxtel uses the DRM facilities in the Windows 
implementation of Silverlight to protect the content downloaded by their 
(Windows-only) desktop application, and use it as an excuse for not providing a 
Mac version (their recommended solution being to use Parallels, VM Ware, etc) 
because they say the DRM stuff is not present in the Mac version of 
Silverlight. It's just possible that Channel 9 are using the same rationale, 
just not as restrictively.

Perhaps someone more knowledgeable can shed some more light on this.


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Re: silverlight?

2011-03-26 Thread Pedro

Cheers Daniel  

I will give it a go

Pedro

Another iPhone production

On 26/03/2011, at 17:22, Daniel Kerr  wrote:

> 
> Hi Pedro
> 
> No problems at all with installing Silverlight. I've done it quite a bit
> with newer installs I've done for clients. All works well.
> 
> Kind Regards
> Daniel
> 
> 
> On 26/3/11 4:32 PM, "Pedro"  wrote:
> 
>> Thank you everyone for your prompt answers...
>> 
>> When Daniel set up the iMac for Ali I remember he installed VLC for just such
>> an occasion , however the site is telling me we need
>> a more up to date version of silverlight to view the programme.
>> 
>> Is there any problem with updating to the newer version of silverlight( which
>> I don't I have installed in the first place) or is there a
>> work around
>> 
>> cheers
>> 
>> Pedro
>> 
>> On 26/03/2011, at 4:13 PM, cm wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi Pedro,
>>> 
>>> In addition to what Daniel said, Silverlight is Microsofts attempt to
>>> replicate Adobe Flash. It copies most of the functionality of Flash and 
>>> works
>>> in a similar fashion. As usual it is Microsofts attempt to enter an existing
>>> market by plagiarising the market leader.
>>> 
>>> Microsoft itself has indicated that they are moving to HTML 5, so the years
>>> of Silverlight may be numbered.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Carlo
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 2011-03-26, at 16:06, Daniel Kerr wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Pedro
>>>> 
>>>> <http://www.microsoft.com/silverlight/>
>>>> 
>>>> Basically it's another form of video content/player. Much like QuickTime,
>>>> Real Player, VLC, Flip4Mac/Windows Media Player, Perian, Flash, etc etc 
>>>> etc.
>>>> I could keep going but that sort gives the point,..lol.
>>>> 
>>>> The reason you need it is that the Channel 9 site probably uses their
>>>> content to display the video.
>>>> 
>>>> One of the fun things with video and web content. So many different 
>>>> versions
>>>> around, and players to match.
>>>> 
>>>> The main ones I always recommend to clients are the above listed ones I
>>>> mentioned. 
>>>> To me these ones give the "Swiss Army Knife approach". If you have all 
>>>> those
>>>> players, you've got your bases covered for whatever content you come 
>>>> across.
>>>> (hopefully)
>>>> 
>>>> On new setups I do for clients I recommend (and install if the want) the
>>>> above as it makes their life easier then trying to hunt around and find all
>>>> the players ;)
>>>> 
>>>> Hope that helps.
>>>> 
>>>> Kind Regards
>>>> Daniel
>>>> 
>>>> On 26/3/11 3:58 PM, "Pedro"  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Afternoon all
>>>>> 
>>>>> Can anyone tell what is Microsoft silverlight and why am I required to
>>>>> install
>>>>> it just to watch
>>>>> one of my favourite shows from Ch 9
>>>>> 
>>>>> cheers
>>>>> 
>>>>> Pedro
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 15" MacBookPro 2.66 GHz Core i7
>>>>> 4  GB/1067   MHz  500GB
>>>>> OS X   10.6.7   Snow Leopard
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: silverlight?

2011-03-26 Thread Daniel Kerr

Hi Pedro

No problems at all with installing Silverlight. I've done it quite a bit
with newer installs I've done for clients. All works well.

Kind Regards
Daniel


On 26/3/11 4:32 PM, "Pedro"  wrote:

> Thank you everyone for your prompt answers...
> 
> When Daniel set up the iMac for Ali I remember he installed VLC for just such
> an occasion , however the site is telling me we need
> a more up to date version of silverlight to view the programme.
> 
> Is there any problem with updating to the newer version of silverlight( which
> I don't I have installed in the first place) or is there a
> work around
> 
> cheers
> 
> Pedro
> 
> On 26/03/2011, at 4:13 PM, cm wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Hi Pedro,
>> 
>> In addition to what Daniel said, Silverlight is Microsofts attempt to
>> replicate Adobe Flash. It copies most of the functionality of Flash and works
>> in a similar fashion. As usual it is Microsofts attempt to enter an existing
>> market by plagiarising the market leader.
>> 
>> Microsoft itself has indicated that they are moving to HTML 5, so the years
>> of Silverlight may be numbered.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Carlo
>> 
>> 
>> On 2011-03-26, at 16:06, Daniel Kerr wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi Pedro
>>> 
>>> <http://www.microsoft.com/silverlight/>
>>> 
>>> Basically it's another form of video content/player. Much like QuickTime,
>>> Real Player, VLC, Flip4Mac/Windows Media Player, Perian, Flash, etc etc etc.
>>> I could keep going but that sort gives the point,..lol.
>>> 
>>> The reason you need it is that the Channel 9 site probably uses their
>>> content to display the video.
>>> 
>>> One of the fun things with video and web content. So many different versions
>>> around, and players to match.
>>> 
>>> The main ones I always recommend to clients are the above listed ones I
>>> mentioned. 
>>> To me these ones give the "Swiss Army Knife approach". If you have all those
>>> players, you've got your bases covered for whatever content you come across.
>>> (hopefully)
>>> 
>>> On new setups I do for clients I recommend (and install if the want) the
>>> above as it makes their life easier then trying to hunt around and find all
>>> the players ;)
>>> 
>>> Hope that helps.
>>> 
>>> Kind Regards
>>> Daniel
>>> 
>>> On 26/3/11 3:58 PM, "Pedro"  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Afternoon all
>>>> 
>>>> Can anyone tell what is Microsoft silverlight and why am I required to
>>>> install
>>>> it just to watch
>>>> one of my favourite shows from Ch 9
>>>> 
>>>> cheers
>>>> 
>>>> Pedro
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 15" MacBookPro 2.66 GHz Core i7
>>>> 4  GB/1067   MHz  500GB
>>>> OS X   10.6.7   Snow Leopard
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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Re: silverlight?

2011-03-26 Thread Pedro
Thank you everyone for your prompt answers...

When Daniel set up the iMac for Ali I remember he installed VLC for just such 
an occasion , however the site is telling me we need
a more up to date version of silverlight to view the programme.

Is there any problem with updating to the newer version of silverlight( which I 
don't I have installed in the first place) or is there a
work around

cheers

Pedro

On 26/03/2011, at 4:13 PM, cm wrote:

> 
> Hi Pedro,
> 
> In addition to what Daniel said, Silverlight is Microsofts attempt to 
> replicate Adobe Flash. It copies most of the functionality of Flash and works 
> in a similar fashion. As usual it is Microsofts attempt to enter an existing 
> market by plagiarising the market leader.
> 
> Microsoft itself has indicated that they are moving to HTML 5, so the years 
> of Silverlight may be numbered.
> 
> Cheers,
> Carlo
> 
> 
> On 2011-03-26, at 16:06, Daniel Kerr wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Hi Pedro
>> 
>> <http://www.microsoft.com/silverlight/>
>> 
>> Basically it's another form of video content/player. Much like QuickTime,
>> Real Player, VLC, Flip4Mac/Windows Media Player, Perian, Flash, etc etc etc.
>> I could keep going but that sort gives the point,..lol.
>> 
>> The reason you need it is that the Channel 9 site probably uses their
>> content to display the video.
>> 
>> One of the fun things with video and web content. So many different versions
>> around, and players to match.
>> 
>> The main ones I always recommend to clients are the above listed ones I
>> mentioned. 
>> To me these ones give the "Swiss Army Knife approach". If you have all those
>> players, you've got your bases covered for whatever content you come across.
>> (hopefully)
>> 
>> On new setups I do for clients I recommend (and install if the want) the
>> above as it makes their life easier then trying to hunt around and find all
>> the players ;)
>> 
>> Hope that helps.
>> 
>> Kind Regards
>> Daniel
>> 
>> On 26/3/11 3:58 PM, "Pedro"  wrote:
>> 
>>> Afternoon all
>>> 
>>> Can anyone tell what is Microsoft silverlight and why am I required to 
>>> install
>>> it just to watch 
>>> one of my favourite shows from Ch 9
>>> 
>>> cheers
>>> 
>>> Pedro
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 15" MacBookPro 2.66 GHz Core i7
>>> 4  GB/1067   MHz  500GB
>>> OS X   10.6.7   Snow Leopard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
> 






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Re: silverlight?

2011-03-26 Thread Daniel Kerr

Microsoft plagiarise content and what others do?
Surely you jest sir??? :o)
Sorry, couldn't resist...lol
I'll go back to hiding under my rock now,.. :o)

Enjoy!

Kind Regards
Daniel


On 26/3/11 4:13 PM, "cm"  wrote:

> 
> Hi Pedro,
> 
> In addition to what Daniel said, Silverlight is Microsofts attempt to
> replicate Adobe Flash. It copies most of the functionality of Flash and works
> in a similar fashion. As usual it is Microsofts attempt to enter an existing
> market by plagiarising the market leader.
> 
> Microsoft itself has indicated that they are moving to HTML 5, so the years of
> Silverlight may be numbered.
> 
> Cheers,
> Carlo
> 
> 
> On 2011-03-26, at 16:06, Daniel Kerr wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Hi Pedro
>> 
>> <http://www.microsoft.com/silverlight/>
>> 
>> Basically it's another form of video content/player. Much like QuickTime,
>> Real Player, VLC, Flip4Mac/Windows Media Player, Perian, Flash, etc etc etc.
>> I could keep going but that sort gives the point,..lol.
>> 
>> The reason you need it is that the Channel 9 site probably uses their
>> content to display the video.
>> 
>> One of the fun things with video and web content. So many different versions
>> around, and players to match.
>> 
>> The main ones I always recommend to clients are the above listed ones I
>> mentioned. 
>> To me these ones give the "Swiss Army Knife approach". If you have all those
>> players, you've got your bases covered for whatever content you come across.
>> (hopefully)
>> 
>> On new setups I do for clients I recommend (and install if the want) the
>> above as it makes their life easier then trying to hunt around and find all
>> the players ;)
>> 
>> Hope that helps.
>> 
>> Kind Regards
>> Daniel
>> 
>> On 26/3/11 3:58 PM, "Pedro"  wrote:
>> 
>>> Afternoon all
>>> 
>>> Can anyone tell what is Microsoft silverlight and why am I required to
>>> install
>>> it just to watch
>>> one of my favourite shows from Ch 9
>>> 
>>> cheers
>>> 
>>> Pedro
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 15" MacBookPro 2.66 GHz Core i7
>>> 4  GB/1067   MHz  500GB
>>> OS X   10.6.7   Snow Leopard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: silverlight?

2011-03-26 Thread cm

Hi Pedro,

In addition to what Daniel said, Silverlight is Microsofts attempt to replicate 
Adobe Flash. It copies most of the functionality of Flash and works in a 
similar fashion. As usual it is Microsofts attempt to enter an existing market 
by plagiarising the market leader.

Microsoft itself has indicated that they are moving to HTML 5, so the years of 
Silverlight may be numbered.

Cheers,
Carlo


On 2011-03-26, at 16:06, Daniel Kerr wrote:

> 
> Hi Pedro
> 
> <http://www.microsoft.com/silverlight/>
> 
> Basically it's another form of video content/player. Much like QuickTime,
> Real Player, VLC, Flip4Mac/Windows Media Player, Perian, Flash, etc etc etc.
> I could keep going but that sort gives the point,..lol.
> 
> The reason you need it is that the Channel 9 site probably uses their
> content to display the video.
> 
> One of the fun things with video and web content. So many different versions
> around, and players to match.
> 
> The main ones I always recommend to clients are the above listed ones I
> mentioned. 
> To me these ones give the "Swiss Army Knife approach". If you have all those
> players, you've got your bases covered for whatever content you come across.
> (hopefully)
> 
> On new setups I do for clients I recommend (and install if the want) the
> above as it makes their life easier then trying to hunt around and find all
> the players ;)
> 
> Hope that helps.
> 
> Kind Regards
> Daniel
> 
> On 26/3/11 3:58 PM, "Pedro"  wrote:
> 
>> Afternoon all
>> 
>> Can anyone tell what is Microsoft silverlight and why am I required to 
>> install
>> it just to watch 
>> one of my favourite shows from Ch 9
>> 
>> cheers
>> 
>> Pedro
>> 
>> 
>> 15" MacBookPro 2.66 GHz Core i7
>> 4  GB/1067   MHz  500GB
>> OS X   10.6.7   Snow Leopard
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: silverlight?

2011-03-26 Thread Derek Perry
Microsoft Silverlight powers engaging, interactive user experiences wherever 
the web works.
Silverlight is a powerful development platform for creating rich media 
applications and business applications for the Web, desktop, and mobile devices.

Silverlight is a free plug-in powered by the .NET framework that is compatible 
across multiple browsers, devices and operating systems to bring a new level of 
interactivity wherever the Web works. With support for advanced data 
integration, multithreading, HD video using IIS Smooth Streaming, and built in 
content protection, Silverlight enables online and offline applications for a 
broad range of business and consumer scenarios.

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  Afternoon all


  Can anyone tell what is Microsoft silverlight and why am I required to 
install it just to watch 
  one of my favourite shows from Ch 9


  cheers


  Pedro




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Re: silverlight?

2011-03-26 Thread Daniel Kerr

Hi Pedro

<http://www.microsoft.com/silverlight/>

Basically it's another form of video content/player. Much like QuickTime,
Real Player, VLC, Flip4Mac/Windows Media Player, Perian, Flash, etc etc etc.
I could keep going but that sort gives the point,..lol.

The reason you need it is that the Channel 9 site probably uses their
content to display the video.

One of the fun things with video and web content. So many different versions
around, and players to match.

The main ones I always recommend to clients are the above listed ones I
mentioned. 
To me these ones give the "Swiss Army Knife approach". If you have all those
players, you've got your bases covered for whatever content you come across.
(hopefully)

On new setups I do for clients I recommend (and install if the want) the
above as it makes their life easier then trying to hunt around and find all
the players ;)

Hope that helps.

Kind Regards
Daniel

On 26/3/11 3:58 PM, "Pedro"  wrote:

> Afternoon all
> 
> Can anyone tell what is Microsoft silverlight and why am I required to install
> it just to watch 
> one of my favourite shows from Ch 9
> 
> cheers
> 
> Pedro
> 
> 
> 15" MacBookPro 2.66 GHz Core i7
> 4  GB/1067   MHz  500GB
> OS X   10.6.7   Snow Leopard
> 
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> 
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silverlight?

2011-03-26 Thread Pedro
Afternoon allCan anyone tell what is Microsoft silverlight and why am I required to install it just to watch one of my favourite shows from Ch 9cheersPedro
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