Re: [wanita-muslimah] Re: Fwd: Kecintaan Kepada Rasulullah SAW

[H. M. Nur Abdurrahman]

Caramba, the case is closed
Nohetto
Howgh
HMNA

- Original Message - 
From: "ma_suryawan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 08:02
Subject: [wanita-muslimah] Re: Fwd: Kecintaan Kepada Rasulullah SAW


 Coba ketik atau klik ini dengan LENGKAP, jangan cuma sepotong:
 http://www.aaiil.org/text/books/mga/correctionerrorekghaltikaizala/co
 rrectionerrorekghaltikaizala.shtml

Re: [wanita-muslimah] Re: Fwd: Kecintaan Kepada Rasulullah SAW

[H. M. Nur Abdurrahman]

Kasus Islam Ahmadiyah Lahore saya tutup
HMNA

- Original Message - 
From: "Muhkito Afiff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 02:35
Subject: [wanita-muslimah] Re: Fwd: Kecintaan Kepada Rasulullah SAW


 Kali ini saya hanya ingin memberi sedikit tips mengenai internet link 
sumber. 

[wanita-muslimah] Re: Fwd: Kecintaan Kepada Rasulullah SAW

[ma_suryawan]

HMNA ini tipikal kyai yang gaptek atau bego yach...??? Rasanya sih
bego dalam urusan link ini, sehingga menuduh saya berdusta...dan
yang pasti juara ngeyel dan juara ngabur. Caramba!

Coba ketik atau klik ini dengan LENGKAP, jangan cuma sepotong:
http://www.aaiil.org/text/books/mga/correctionerrorekghaltikaizala/co
rrectionerrorekghaltikaizala.shtml

Kalau gak bisa, coba klik http://www.aaiil.org/ lalu klik BOOKS lalu
cari judul buku "A Correction of an Error"

Nah, kalo udah dapat, silahkan baca tulisan saya di bawah ini...

Kasihan.

Salam,
MAS

--- In wanita-muslimah@yahoogroups.com, "H. M. Nur Abdurrahman"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> :HMNA
> di-down load dar situs =>
>
http://www.aaiil.org/text/books/mga/correctionerrorekghaltikaizala/tr

> Cramba, hayyaaa, Betul-betul MAS pendusta, mana dari yang saya
down load
> dari situs Ahmadiyah Lahore itu yang menyatakan MGH itu nabi dan
rasul?
> mana? mana? na? na? na?
> Kasus Ahmdiyah Lahore ditutup tup, tup, tup.
> Nohetto
> Howgh.

#

Oh, oh jangan ngabur HMNA...

Oh, oh, ternyata lagi-lagi HMNA cuma sanggup menghadirkan cerita, ya
sekedar cerita...tidak ada bukti kebenaran omongan kawan Anda itu.

Nah, sekarang saya berikan bukti dari situs resmi Ahmadiyah Lahore
dimana Hz. Mirza Ghulam Ahmad a.s. dengan jelas mengatakan bahwa
dirinya adalah nabi dan rasul. Lihat di:
http://www.aaiil.org/text/books/mga/correctionerrorekghaltikaizala/tr
anslationcorrectionerror.shtml

Mirza Ghulam Ahmad menjelaskan dalam buku Ek Ghalati Ka Izala:

"Some people in our Movement who are not well-acquainted with my
claim and the arguments relating to it --- not having had the
occasion to study my books carefully, nor having stayed in my
company for a sufficient length of time to complete their knowledge -
-- in some instances in response to an objection of the opponents
give a reply which is entirely against facts. So, despite being on
the side of truth, they have to face embarrassment.

Thus it happened a few days ago that a person faced from an opponent
the objection that "the man whose pledge you have taken claims to be
a prophet (nabi) and a messenger (rasul)". This was answered by only
a denial, while such an answer is not correct. The fact is that the
holy revelation of God Almighty which descends upon me contains
words such as rasul, mursal and nabi, not once but hundreds of
times. So how can the reply be correct that such words are not
present? In fact, at this time these words occur more clearly and
explicitly than in the earlier days. And in the Barahin Ahmadiyya
too, published 22 years ago, these words are not few.

Thus, in the Divine communications published in Barahin Ahmadiyya,
one revelation from God is as follows: "He it is Who sent His
messenger (rasul) with guidance and the true religion in order to
make it prevail over all other religions" (see p. 498, Barahin
Ahmadiyya). Here, this humble one has been clearly addressed as
rasul. Then after this, in the same book, is the following Divine
revelation regarding myself: "The messenger of God in the mantle of
the prophets" (p. 504). Then quite near this in the same book is the
following revelation: "Muhammad is the messenger of God; those with
him are firm against disbelievers, compassionate among themselves.
(The Holy Quran: 48:29)" In this revelation I have been given the
name 'Muhammad'2 as well as rasul.4 Then there is the following
Divine revelation noted on page 557 of Barahin Ahmadiyya: "A warner
came into the world." Another version of it is: "A prophet (nabi)
came into the world."5 Similarly in many other places in Barahin
Ahmadiyya the word rasul has been applied to this humble one..." (Di
copy paste dari situs resmi Ahmadiyah Lahore)

Dan seterusnya.

Oh, oh, makin kelihatan saja HMNA tidak mengerti apa yang ia dengar
dan ia omongkan, lalu menuduh saya berdusta, padahal dirinya sendiri
yang sering berdusta.

Salam,
MAS

--- In wanita-muslimah@yahoogroups.com, "H. M. Nur Abdurrahman"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Saya sudah forward ini kepada salah seorang sahabat saya penganut
Islam
> Ahmadiyah Lahore, seorang kristolog dan jawabannya sederhana
saja: "Tidak
> ada pengakuan Ghulam Ahmad sebagai nabi dalam tulisan itu, dan
tulisan itu
> wajar sebagai pernyataan seorang 'Mujaddid'. Lain kali kalau
menjumpai
> tulisan, lihat saja, kalau ada pengakuan sebagai nabi, niscaya itu
bukan
> dari Ghulam Ahmad, itu palsu.. Sebagai perbandingan: LAI- Yahya
17:3 Inilah
> hidup yang kekal itu, yaitu bahwa mereka mengenal Engkau, satu-
satunya Allah
> yang benar, dan mengenal Yesus Kristus yang telah Engkau utus. LAI-
Rom 10:9
> Sebab jika kamu mengaku dengan mulutmu, bahwa Yesus adalah Tuhan,
dan
> percaya dalam hatimu, bahwa Allah telah membangkitkan Dia dari
antara orang
> mati, maka kamu akan diselamatkan..LAI- Yahya 17:3 yang menyatakan
Jesus
> hanya sekadar utusan Allah, itu betul-betul dari Jesus, tetapi LAI-
Rom 10:9
> yang menyatakan Jesus adalah Tuhan, itu palsu, bukan perkataan

Re: [wanita-muslimah] Re: Fwd: Kecintaan Kepada Rasulullah SAW

[H. M. Nur Abdurrahman]

MAS berdusta, sebab menurut situs Islam Ahmadiyah Lahore => 
http://www.aaiil.org/text/books/mga/correctionerrorekghaltikaizala/co
The Holy Quran states that prophets appeared among all the nations of the
earth, and so the fact the name of only a few of them are known cannot be
used to argue that prophets have only appeared among one or two nations.
Similarly, the Holy Prophet's hadith proves the coming of mujaddids in all
centuries even though it may not be possible to name them all.
However, many Muslim religious figures in history have claimed to be the
mujaddids of their eras; IN ADDITION, Muslim religious scholars of the past
have described some of their predecessors as mujaddids of their times. In
fact, Shaikh Ahmad of Sirhind, India, is quite commonly known in the Indian
subcontinent simply as Hazrat Mujaddid Alf Thani (mujaddid of the second
thousand - he appeared at the head of the eleventh century hijrah).
>From historical sources the following list of mujaddids may be compiled :
First century: 'Umar ibn 'Abdul 'Aziz.
Second century: Imams Shafi'i and ibn Hanbal.
Third century: Abu Sharah and Ash'ari.
Fourth century: Abu Ubaidullah, Abu Bakr Baqilani.
Fifth century: AI-Ghazali.
Sixth century: Abdul Qadir Jilani.
Seventh century: Ibn Taimiyyah, Muin-ud-Din Chishti.
Eighth century: Ibn Hajar 'Asqalani, Salih ibn 'Umar.
Ninth century: Sayyid Muhammad Jaunpuri.
Tenth century: Imam Suyuti.
Eleventh century: Shaikh Ahmad of Sirhind (India).
Twelfth century: Shah Wali Ullah of Dehli (India).
Thirteenth century: Sayyed Ahmad Barelavi (India).
And, of course, the mujaddid of the fourteenth century of the Hijrah [Muslim
Era] is Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad of Qadian, India (1835-1908), besides whom
no other Muslim has claimed to be a Mujaddid of this century.

"We believe in the five pillars of Islam ... We believe that there is no god
besides God, and that Muhammad is His Messenger and the last of the
prophets. We believe that whoever adds to, or detracts from, the Islamic
Shari'ah even one whit, is excluded from Islam. And we instruct our
community that they believe in laa ilaaha ill-Allah Muhammadur rasul Allah;
and they consider as their duties salaat [prayer], saum [fasting], zakaat
[charity], hajj [pilgrimage], and other obligations imposed by God and His
Prophet, and act according to Islam. It is incumbent to believe in all those
things which, according to the ijmaa' [unanimity] of the Ahl-Sunnah (i.e.,
the orthodox), constitute Islam" (Ayyam Sulh).
Thus, by the grace of Allah, not only are we Muslims, but we are also the
only group dedicated purely to the propagation of Islam.

Cramba, hayyaaa, Betul-betul MAS pendusta, mana dari yang saya down load
dari situs Ahmadiyah Lahore itu yang menyatakan MGH itu nabi dan rasul?
mana? mana? na? na? na?
Kasus Ahmdiyah Lahore ditutup tup, tup, tup.
Nohetto
Howgh.
HMNA

##



- Original Message - 
From: "ma_suryawan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 22:49
Subject: [wanita-muslimah] Re: Fwd: Kecintaan Kepada Rasulullah SAW


Nah, sekarang saya berikan bukti dari situs resmi Ahmadiyah Lahore dimana 
Hz. Mirza Ghulam Ahmad a.s. dengan jelas mengatakan bahwa dirinya adalah 
nabi dan rasul. Lihat di: 
http://www.aaiil.org/text/books/mga/correctionerrorekghaltikaizala/tr

[wanita-muslimah] Re: Fwd: Kecintaan Kepada Rasulullah SAW

[Muhkito Afiff]

Kali ini saya hanya ingin memberi sedikit tips mengenai internet link 
sumber.

Sering sekali link sumber yang kita copy-paste sangat panjang dan 
terpotong jika kita kirimkan, sehingga menyulitkan pembaca yang ingin 
membuka link tersebut. Tidak semua pembaca mengerti bagaimana 
menyambung link yang patah tersebut.

Ada solusi yang mudah, yaitu dengan bantuan 

Sebagai contoh link yang Pak MA Suryawan beri yaitu
. Panjangnya 103 karakter, 
panjang sekali bukan?

Pak MA Suryawan bisa copy dan pastekan link tadi ke dalam
isian form di  tersebut, tinyurl akan 
menghasilkan link baru, yaitu: 
Panjang url kali ini hanya 25 karakter.

Selamat mencoba.

Untuk Pak MA Suryawan dan abah HMNA selamat berdiskusi dan tetap 
sabar dan berkepala dingin ya.


salam,

muhkito

--- In wanita-muslimah@yahoogroups.com, 
"ma_suryawan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> HMNA ini tipikal kyai yang gaptek atau bego yach...??? Rasanya sih 
> bego dalam urusan link ini, sehingga menuduh saya berdusta...dan 
> yang pasti juara ngeyel dan juara ngabur. Caramba!
> 
> Coba ketik atau klik ini dengan LENGKAP, jangan cuma sepotong: 
> http://www.aaiil.org/text/books/mga/correctionerrorekghaltikaizala/
co
> rrectionerrorekghaltikaizala.shtml
> 
> Kalau gak bisa, coba klik http://www.aaiil.org/ lalu klik BOOKS 
lalu 
> cari judul buku "A Correction of an Error"
> 
> Nah, kalo udah dapat, silahkan baca tulisan saya di bawah ini...
> 
> Kasihan.
> 
> Salam,
> MAS
> 

[wanita-muslimah] Re: Fwd: Kecintaan Kepada Rasulullah SAW

[ma_suryawan]

HMNA ini tipikal kyai yang gaptek atau bego yach...??? Rasanya sih 
bego dalam urusan link ini, sehingga menuduh saya berdusta...dan 
yang pasti juara ngeyel dan juara ngabur. Caramba!

Coba ketik atau klik ini dengan LENGKAP, jangan cuma sepotong: 
http://www.aaiil.org/text/books/mga/correctionerrorekghaltikaizala/co
rrectionerrorekghaltikaizala.shtml

Kalau gak bisa, coba klik http://www.aaiil.org/ lalu klik BOOKS lalu 
cari judul buku "A Correction of an Error"

Nah, kalo udah dapat, silahkan baca tulisan saya di bawah ini...

Kasihan.

Salam,
MAS

--- In wanita-muslimah@yahoogroups.com, "H. M. Nur Abdurrahman" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> MAS ngeyel dan berdusta:
> Nah, sekarang saya berikan bukti dari situs resmi Ahmadiyah Lahore 
dimana 
> Hz. Mirza Ghulam Ahmad a.s. dengan jelas mengatakan bahwa dirinya 
adalah 
> nabi dan rasul. Lihat di: 
> 
http://www.aaiil.org/text/books/mga/correctionerrorekghaltikaizala/tr
> ==
> :HMNA
> di-down load dar situs => 
> 
http://www.aaiil.org/text/books/mga/correctionerrorekghaltikaizala/tr

> Cramba, hayyaaa, Betul-betul MAS pendusta, mana dari yang saya 
down load 
> dari situs Ahmadiyah Lahore itu yang menyatakan MGH itu nabi dan 
rasul? 
> mana? mana? na? na? na?
> Kasus Ahmdiyah Lahore ditutup tup, tup, tup.
> Nohetto
> Howgh.

#

Oh, oh jangan ngabur HMNA...

Oh, oh, ternyata lagi-lagi HMNA cuma sanggup menghadirkan cerita, ya
sekedar cerita...tidak ada bukti kebenaran omongan kawan Anda itu.

Nah, sekarang saya berikan bukti dari situs resmi Ahmadiyah Lahore
dimana Hz. Mirza Ghulam Ahmad a.s. dengan jelas mengatakan bahwa
dirinya adalah nabi dan rasul. Lihat di:
http://www.aaiil.org/text/books/mga/correctionerrorekghaltikaizala/tr
anslationcorrectionerror.shtml

Mirza Ghulam Ahmad menjelaskan dalam buku Ek Ghalati Ka Izala:

"Some people in our Movement who are not well-acquainted with my
claim and the arguments relating to it --- not having had the
occasion to study my books carefully, nor having stayed in my
company for a sufficient length of time to complete their knowledge -
-- in some instances in response to an objection of the opponents
give a reply which is entirely against facts. So, despite being on
the side of truth, they have to face embarrassment.

Thus it happened a few days ago that a person faced from an opponent
the objection that "the man whose pledge you have taken claims to be
a prophet (nabi) and a messenger (rasul)". This was answered by only
a denial, while such an answer is not correct. The fact is that the
holy revelation of God Almighty which descends upon me contains
words such as rasul, mursal and nabi, not once but hundreds of
times. So how can the reply be correct that such words are not
present? In fact, at this time these words occur more clearly and
explicitly than in the earlier days. And in the Barahin Ahmadiyya
too, published 22 years ago, these words are not few.

Thus, in the Divine communications published in Barahin Ahmadiyya,
one revelation from God is as follows: "He it is Who sent His
messenger (rasul) with guidance and the true religion in order to
make it prevail over all other religions" (see p. 498, Barahin
Ahmadiyya). Here, this humble one has been clearly addressed as
rasul. Then after this, in the same book, is the following Divine
revelation regarding myself: "The messenger of God in the mantle of
the prophets" (p. 504). Then quite near this in the same book is the
following revelation: "Muhammad is the messenger of God; those with
him are firm against disbelievers, compassionate among themselves.
(The Holy Quran: 48:29)" In this revelation I have been given the
name 'Muhammad'2 as well as rasul.4 Then there is the following
Divine revelation noted on page 557 of Barahin Ahmadiyya: "A warner
came into the world." Another version of it is: "A prophet (nabi)
came into the world."5 Similarly in many other places in Barahin
Ahmadiyya the word rasul has been applied to this humble one..." (Di
copy paste dari situs resmi Ahmadiyah Lahore)

Dan seterusnya.

Oh, oh, makin kelihatan saja HMNA tidak mengerti apa yang ia dengar
dan ia omongkan, lalu menuduh saya berdusta, padahal dirinya sendiri
yang sering berdusta.

Salam,
MAS


--- In wanita-muslimah@yahoogroups.com, "H. M. Nur Abdurrahman"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> MAS ngeyel lagi:
> Nah, sekarang saya berikan bukti dari situs resmi Ahmadiyah Lahore
> dimana Hz. Mirza Ghulam Ahmad a.s. dengan jelas mengatakan bahwa
> dirinya adalah nabi dan rasul. Lihat di:
> 
http://www.aaiil.org/text/books/mga/correctionerrorekghaltikaizala/tr
> ---
-
> HMNA:
> Berikut yang saya down load dari situs Ahmadiyah Lahore =>
>
http://www.aaiil.org/text/books/mga/correctionerrorekghaltikaizala/tr
Tidak
> ada disitu claim bahwa MGA adalah nabi dan rasul. Jadi ternyata MAS
bukan
> ngeyel saja tetapi pendusta.

Re: [wanita-muslimah] Re: Fwd: Kecintaan Kepada Rasulullah SAW

[H. M. Nur Abdurrahman]

MAS ngeyel dan berdusta:
Nah, sekarang saya berikan bukti dari situs resmi Ahmadiyah Lahore dimana 
Hz. Mirza Ghulam Ahmad a.s. dengan jelas mengatakan bahwa dirinya adalah 
nabi dan rasul. Lihat di: 
http://www.aaiil.org/text/books/mga/correctionerrorekghaltikaizala/tr
==
:HMNA
di-down load dar situs => 
http://www.aaiil.org/text/books/mga/correctionerrorekghaltikaizala/tr
The Lahore Ahmadiyya Movement for the Propagation of Islam (A.A.I.I.L. -
Ahmadiyya Anjuman Isha'at-e-Islam Lahore)

The Holy Quran states that prophets appeared among all the nations of the
earth, and so the fact the name of only a few of them are known cannot be
used to argue that prophets have only appeared among one or two nations.
Similarly, the Holy Prophet's hadith proves the coming of mujaddids in all
centuries even though it may not be possible to name them all.
However, many Muslim religious figures in history have claimed to be the
mujaddids of their eras; IN ADDITION, Muslim religious scholars of the past
have described some of their predecessors as mujaddids of their times. In
fact, Shaikh Ahmad of Sirhind, India, is quite commonly known in the Indian
subcontinent simply as Hazrat Mujaddid Alf Thani (mujaddid of the second
thousand - he appeared at the head of the eleventh century hijrah).
>From historical sources the following list of mujaddids may be compiled :
First century: 'Umar ibn 'Abdul 'Aziz.
Second century: Imams Shafi'i and ibn Hanbal.
Third century: Abu Sharah and Ash'ari.
Fourth century: Abu Ubaidullah, Abu Bakr Baqilani.
Fifth century: AI-Ghazali.
Sixth century: Abdul Qadir Jilani.
Seventh century: Ibn Taimiyyah, Muin-ud-Din Chishti.
Eighth century: Ibn Hajar 'Asqalani, Salih ibn 'Umar.
Ninth century: Sayyid Muhammad Jaunpuri.
Tenth century: Imam Suyuti.
Eleventh century: Shaikh Ahmad of Sirhind (India).
Twelfth century: Shah Wali Ullah of Dehli (India).
Thirteenth century: Sayyed Ahmad Barelavi (India).
And, of course, the mujaddid of the fourteenth century of the Hijrah [Muslim
Era] is Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad of Qadian, India (1835-1908), besides whom
no other Muslim has claimed to be a Mujaddid of this century.

"We believe in the five pillars of Islam ... We believe that there is no god
besides God, and that Muhammad is His Messenger and the last of the
prophets. We believe that whoever adds to, or detracts from, the Islamic
Shari'ah even one whit, is excluded from Islam. And we instruct our
community that they believe in laa ilaaha ill-Allah Muhammadur rasul Allah;
and they consider as their duties salaat [prayer], saum [fasting], zakaat
[charity], hajj [pilgrimage], and other obligations imposed by God and His
Prophet, and act according to Islam. It is incumbent to believe in all those
things which, according to the ijmaa' [unanimity] of the Ahl-Sunnah (i.e.,
the orthodox), constitute Islam" (Ayyam Sulh).
Thus, by the grace of Allah, not only are we Muslims, but we are also the
only group dedicated purely to the propagation of Islam.

Cramba, hayyaaa, Betul-betul MAS pendusta, mana dari yang saya down load 
dari situs Ahmadiyah Lahore itu yang menyatakan MGH itu nabi dan rasul? 
mana? mana? na? na? na?
Kasus Ahmdiyah Lahore ditutup tup, tup, tup.
Nohetto
Howgh.

##


- Original Message - 
From: "ma_suryawan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 22:11
Subject: [wanita-muslimah] Re: Fwd: Kecintaan Kepada Rasulullah SAW


> Oh, oh jangan ngabur HMNA...
>
> Oh, oh, ternyata lagi-lagi HMNA cuma sanggup menghadirkan cerita, ya
> sekedar cerita...tidak ada bukti kebenaran omongan kawan Anda itu.
>
> Nah, sekarang saya berikan bukti dari situs resmi Ahmadiyah Lahore
> dimana Hz. Mirza Ghulam Ahmad a.s. dengan jelas mengatakan bahwa
> dirinya adalah nabi dan rasul. Lihat di:
> http://www.aaiil.org/text/books/mga/correctionerrorekghaltikaizala/tr
> anslationcorrectionerror.shtml 

[wanita-muslimah] Re: Fwd: Kecintaan Kepada Rasulullah SAW

[ma_suryawan]

Oh, oh jangan ngabur HMNA...

Oh, oh, ternyata lagi-lagi HMNA cuma sanggup menghadirkan cerita, ya
sekedar cerita...tidak ada bukti kebenaran omongan kawan Anda itu. 

Nah, sekarang saya berikan bukti dari situs resmi Ahmadiyah Lahore
dimana Hz. Mirza Ghulam Ahmad a.s. dengan jelas mengatakan bahwa
dirinya adalah nabi dan rasul. Lihat di:
http://www.aaiil.org/text/books/mga/correctionerrorekghaltikaizala/tr
anslationcorrectionerror.shtml

Mirza Ghulam Ahmad menjelaskan dalam buku Ek Ghalati Ka Izala:

"Some people in our Movement who are not well-acquainted with my
claim and the arguments relating to it --- not having had the
occasion to study my books carefully, nor having stayed in my
company for a sufficient length of time to complete their knowledge -
-- in some instances in response to an objection of the opponents
give a reply which is entirely against facts. So, despite being on
the side of truth, they have to face embarrassment.

Thus it happened a few days ago that a person faced from an opponent
the objection that "the man whose pledge you have taken claims to be
a prophet (nabi) and a messenger (rasul)". This was answered by only
a denial, while such an answer is not correct. The fact is that the
holy revelation of God Almighty which descends upon me contains
words such as rasul, mursal and nabi, not once but hundreds of
times. So how can the reply be correct that such words are not
present? In fact, at this time these words occur more clearly and
explicitly than in the earlier days. And in the Barahin Ahmadiyya
too, published 22 years ago, these words are not few.

Thus, in the Divine communications published in Barahin Ahmadiyya,
one revelation from God is as follows: "He it is Who sent His
messenger (rasul) with guidance and the true religion in order to
make it prevail over all other religions" (see p. 498, Barahin
Ahmadiyya). Here, this humble one has been clearly addressed as
rasul. Then after this, in the same book, is the following Divine
revelation regarding myself: "The messenger of God in the mantle of
the prophets" (p. 504). Then quite near this in the same book is the
following revelation: "Muhammad is the messenger of God; those with
him are firm against disbelievers, compassionate among themselves.
(The Holy Quran: 48:29)" In this revelation I have been given the
name 'Muhammad'2 as well as rasul.4 Then there is the following
Divine revelation noted on page 557 of Barahin Ahmadiyya: "A warner
came into the world." Another version of it is: "A prophet (nabi)
came into the world."5 Similarly in many other places in Barahin
Ahmadiyya the word rasul has been applied to this humble one..." (Di 
copy paste dari situs resmi Ahmadiyah Lahore)

Dan seterusnya.

Oh, oh, makin kelihatan saja HMNA tidak mengerti apa yang ia dengar
dan ia omongkan, lalu menuduh saya berdusta, padahal dirinya sendiri 
yang sering berdusta.

Salam,
MAS


--- In wanita-muslimah@yahoogroups.com, "H. M. Nur Abdurrahman" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> MAS ngeyel lagi:
> Nah, sekarang saya berikan bukti dari situs resmi Ahmadiyah Lahore
> dimana Hz. Mirza Ghulam Ahmad a.s. dengan jelas mengatakan bahwa
> dirinya adalah nabi dan rasul. Lihat di:
> http://www.aaiil.org/text/books/mga/correctionerrorekghaltikaizala/tr
> 
> HMNA:
> Berikut yang saya down load dari situs Ahmadiyah Lahore => 
> 
http://www.aaiil.org/text/books/mga/correctionerrorekghaltikaizala/tr 
Tidak 
> ada disitu claim bahwa MGA adalah nabi dan rasul. Jadi ternyata MAS 
bukan 
> ngeyel saja tetapi pendusta. 

Re: [wanita-muslimah] Re: Fwd: Kecintaan Kepada Rasulullah SAW

[H. M. Nur Abdurrahman]

MAS ngeyel lagi:
Nah, sekarang saya berikan bukti dari situs resmi Ahmadiyah Lahore
dimana Hz. Mirza Ghulam Ahmad a.s. dengan jelas mengatakan bahwa
dirinya adalah nabi dan rasul. Lihat di:
http://www.aaiil.org/text/books/mga/correctionerrorekghaltikaizala/tr

HMNA:
Berikut yang saya down load dari situs Ahmadiyah Lahore => 
http://www.aaiil.org/text/books/mga/correctionerrorekghaltikaizala/tr Tidak 
ada disitu claim bahwa MGA adalah nabi dan rasul. Jadi ternyata MAS bukan 
ngeyel saja tetapi pendusta. Para netters anggota milis WM silakan baca yang 
saya down load tsb:

The Lahore Ahmadiyya Movement for the Propagation of Islam (A.A.I.I.L. - 
Ahmadiyya Anjuman Isha'at-e-Islam Lahore)

The Holy Quran states that prophets appeared among all the nations of the 
earth, and so the fact the name of only a few of them are known cannot be 
used to argue that prophets have only appeared among one or two nations. 
Similarly, the Holy Prophet's hadith proves the coming of mujaddids in all 
centuries even though it may not be possible to name them all.
However, many Muslim religious figures in history have claimed to be the 
mujaddids of their eras; IN ADDITION, Muslim religious scholars of the past 
have described some of their predecessors as mujaddids of their times. In 
fact, Shaikh Ahmad of Sirhind, India, is quite commonly known in the Indian 
subcontinent simply as Hazrat Mujaddid Alf Thani (mujaddid of the second 
thousand - he appeared at the head of the eleventh century hijrah).
>From historical sources the following list of mujaddids may be compiled :
First century: 'Umar ibn 'Abdul 'Aziz.
Second century: Imams Shafi'i and ibn Hanbal.
Third century: Abu Sharah and Ash'ari.
Fourth century: Abu Ubaidullah, Abu Bakr Baqilani.
Fifth century: AI-Ghazali.
Sixth century: Abdul Qadir Jilani.
Seventh century: Ibn Taimiyyah, Muin-ud-Din Chishti.
Eighth century: Ibn Hajar 'Asqalani, Salih ibn 'Umar.
Ninth century: Sayyid Muhammad Jaunpuri.
Tenth century: Imam Suyuti.
Eleventh century: Shaikh Ahmad of Sirhind (India).
Twelfth century: Shah Wali Ullah of Dehli (India).
Thirteenth century: Sayyed Ahmad Barelavi (India).
And, of course, the mujaddid of the fourteenth century of the Hijrah [Muslim 
Era] is Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad of Qadian, India (1835-1908), besides whom 
no other Muslim has claimed to be a Mujaddid of this century.

"We believe in the five pillars of Islam ... We believe that there is no god 
besides God, and that Muhammad is His Messenger and the last of the 
prophets. We believe that whoever adds to, or detracts from, the Islamic 
Shari'ah even one whit, is excluded from Islam. And we instruct our 
community that they believe in laa ilaaha ill-Allah Muhammadur rasul Allah; 
and they consider as their duties salaat [prayer], saum [fasting], zakaat 
[charity], hajj [pilgrimage], and other obligations imposed by God and His 
Prophet, and act according to Islam. It is incumbent to believe in all those 
things which, according to the ijmaa' [unanimity] of the Ahl-Sunnah (i.e., 
the orthodox), constitute Islam" (Ayyam Sulh).
Thus, by the grace of Allah, not only are we Muslims, but we are also the 
only group dedicated purely to the propagation of Islam.

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From: "ma_suryawan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 19:43
Subject: [wanita-muslimah] Re: Fwd: Kecintaan Kepada Rasulullah SAW


Nah, sekarang saya berikan bukti dari situs resmi Ahmadiyah Lahore
dimana Hz. Mirza Ghulam Ahmad a.s. dengan jelas mengatakan bahwa
dirinya adalah nabi dan rasul. Lihat di:
http://www.aaiil.org/text/books/mga/correctionerrorekghaltikaizala/tr
anslationcorrectionerror.shtml 

Re: [wanita-muslimah] Re: Fwd: Kecintaan Kepada Rasulullah SAW

[Awan Biru]

kalau nggak salah lho...
  waktu itu nasehatnya sehubungan dengan one liner comment anda.
  MSA nulis panjang lebar, jadi rada beda...
  Walau biar hemat memang perlu juga untuk dipangkas ekornya
   
  Sebagai penonton dan pembaca, kok sampeyan kelihatan rada rada nafsu, gitu...
  Sorry kalau salah.
  peaceee lah
   
  AB
  
rsa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  jangan lupa pangkas ekornya tu biar ga kepanjangan. ini nerusin saran 
baik dari member milis terhormat ini. kalo saya lupa, tolong ganti 
ingatkan ya ...

salam,
rsa

--- In wanita-muslimah@yahoogroups.com, "ma_suryawan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Saya juga numpang lewat, untuk menampilkan beberapa tulisan bagaimana 
> kecintaan Hz. Mirza Ghulam Ahmad a.s. kepada Rasulullah s.a.w.:
> 
...
> > --- End forwarded message ---
> >
>



 

 
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[wanita-muslimah] Re: Fwd: Kecintaan Kepada Rasulullah SAW

[rsa]

jangan lupa pangkas ekornya tu biar ga kepanjangan. ini nerusin saran 
baik dari member milis terhormat ini. kalo saya lupa, tolong ganti 
ingatkan ya ...

salam,
rsa

--- In wanita-muslimah@yahoogroups.com, "ma_suryawan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Saya juga numpang lewat, untuk menampilkan beberapa tulisan bagaimana 
> kecintaan Hz. Mirza Ghulam Ahmad a.s. kepada Rasulullah s.a.w.:
> 
...
> > --- End forwarded message ---
> >
>