Balasan: Re: [wanita-muslimah] Tirani Dibalik Seni
Pak Ari, Terus dengan begitu apa kita mau mencontoh Jepang, Inggris atau barat yang memang telah gagal dalam masalah moral? Ari Condro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> menulis: Tanggapan ada di bawah. salam, Ari Condro - Original Message - == http://www.hidayatullah.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2913&I temid=1 1. Mereka yang panen uang dari sektor ini jelas tidak peduli sama sekali terhadap dampak buruk yang terjadi: runtuhnya moralitas, meningkatnya kriminalitas, dan maraknya hedonisme. === Ari : Opini kang Syamsudin bertentangan dengan hasil studi di Jepang berikut ini. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pornographic Milton Diamond and Ayako Uchiyama write in "Pornography, Rape and Sex Crimes in Japan" (International Journal of Law and Psychiatry 22(1): 1-22. 1999) [15]: Our findings regarding sex crimes, murder and assault are in keeping with what is also known about general crime rates in Japan regarding burglary, theft and such. 1. Japan has the lowest number of reported rape cases and the highest percentage of arrests and convictions in reported cases of any developed nation. 2. Indeed, Japan is known as one of the safest developed countries for women in the world (Clifford, 1980). (...) === Demikian pula Inggris mempunyai undang-undang anti cabul (Obscene Publications Act) sejak 1857 dan anti pelanggaran seksual (Sexual Offences Act 2003). Perancis mengaturnya dalam undang-undang hukum pidana (pasal 222-32 du code pénal 1994) yang merupakan revisi dari pasal 330 undang-undang sama yang diterbitkan pada 13 Mei 1863. === Ari : Ternyata kebanyakan UU dari negara lain sifatnya membatasiperedaran. jadi yg diatur adalah masalah distribusi, bukan pemaksaan standar moral tertentu. Kebanyakan memberikan batasan 18 tahun. Contoh sebagai berikut. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pornographic a.. Australia : Regulation has increased somewhat under the Howard government, but remains reasonably widely available. See censorship in Australia. X-Rated pornographic videos may be bought and hired in Northern Territory and ACT, and may not contain violence, child sexual abuse or demeaning portrayals (such as bestiality, scat etc). The various states have different laws on pornography, but the edited highlights are that there are numerous adult shops in each state and territory, all of which can sell or rent R-rated material (books, magazines, videos) and many also illegally sell X-rated and RC (refused classification) material openly. Technically it is illegal to sell X-rated material in all states, but it is not illegal to possess X-rated material. b.. Austria: "Youth-imperiling" materials or those which violate human dignity may not be displayed or sold to persons under 18 years of age. Nudity is not assumed as such material. c.. Brazil: Child pornography is a crime. Regular pornography (not involving bestiality/snuff) is legal. Male actors in local movies must wear condoms in penetration scenes. All actors must be 18 or older. When sold at public places, magazine and DVD covers that depict genitalia must be hidden from public view. Any pornography can only be sold to people 18 or older. d.. Bulgaria: Hardcore pornographic material is "not recommended" for distribution to persons under the age of 18. Softcore material is rarely censored, even by the state TV stations. Magazines and pornographic papers have become increasingly available since the fall of communism in the early 1990s. Due to the unstable economy, by the late 1990s only a few publishers remain. e.. Canada: Laws vary from province to province, however sale to persons under 18 (varies by province) is generally prohibited. Most materials are sold in adult stores, despite no specific law controlling the distribution. Canada Customs is empowered to stop the importation of materials prohibited under obscenity laws; many gay and lesbian bookstores have charged that this is applied in a discriminatory way to same-sex pornographic materials. Conversely, some over-the-air television stations (particularly Citytv and TQS) have broadcast softcore pornographic films after midnight. Child pornography is illegal, although a controversial recent Supreme Court of Canada decision on privacy rights significantly impacted government efforts to track and confiscate it. See also Censorship in Canada. f.. People's Republic of China: Recently legalized, adult magazines are sold publicly, although specifics of the regulation is not known. g.. Colombia: Child pornography prohibited under new constitution. Marketing is very strictly regulated. Most materials are sold on the black market. Bogota has at least 300 places where pornography (hardcore) may be legally obtained. h.. Denmark: Ban on pornographic literature was lifted in 1966. In 1969 Denmark was the first country in the world to legalise (hardcore) pornography. i.. France: Extremely violent or graphic pornography is considered X-rated, may be shown only in specific the
Re: [wanita-muslimah] Tirani Dibalik Seni
Prostitusi dibalik "seni" Ari Condro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Tanggapan ada di bawah. salam, Ari Condro - Original Message - == http://www.hidayatullah.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2913&I temid=1 1. Mereka yang panen uang dari sektor ini jelas tidak peduli sama sekali terhadap dampak buruk yang terjadi: runtuhnya moralitas, meningkatnya kriminalitas, dan maraknya hedonisme. === Ari : Opini kang Syamsudin bertentangan dengan hasil studi di Jepang berikut ini. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pornographic Milton Diamond and Ayako Uchiyama write in "Pornography, Rape and Sex Crimes in Japan" (International Journal of Law and Psychiatry 22(1): 1-22. 1999) [15]: Our findings regarding sex crimes, murder and assault are in keeping with what is also known about general crime rates in Japan regarding burglary, theft and such. 1. Japan has the lowest number of reported rape cases and the highest percentage of arrests and convictions in reported cases of any developed nation. 2. Indeed, Japan is known as one of the safest developed countries for women in the world (Clifford, 1980). (...) === Demikian pula Inggris mempunyai undang-undang anti cabul (Obscene Publications Act) sejak 1857 dan anti pelanggaran seksual (Sexual Offences Act 2003). Perancis mengaturnya dalam undang-undang hukum pidana (pasal 222-32 du code pénal 1994) yang merupakan revisi dari pasal 330 undang-undang sama yang diterbitkan pada 13 Mei 1863. === Ari : Ternyata kebanyakan UU dari negara lain sifatnya membatasiperedaran. jadi yg diatur adalah masalah distribusi, bukan pemaksaan standar moral tertentu. Kebanyakan memberikan batasan 18 tahun. Contoh sebagai berikut. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pornographic a.. Australia : Regulation has increased somewhat under the Howard government, but remains reasonably widely available. See censorship in Australia. X-Rated pornographic videos may be bought and hired in Northern Territory and ACT, and may not contain violence, child sexual abuse or demeaning portrayals (such as bestiality, scat etc). The various states have different laws on pornography, but the edited highlights are that there are numerous adult shops in each state and territory, all of which can sell or rent R-rated material (books, magazines, videos) and many also illegally sell X-rated and RC (refused classification) material openly. Technically it is illegal to sell X-rated material in all states, but it is not illegal to possess X-rated material. b.. Austria: "Youth-imperiling" materials or those which violate human dignity may not be displayed or sold to persons under 18 years of age. Nudity is not assumed as such material. c.. Brazil: Child pornography is a crime. Regular pornography (not involving bestiality/snuff) is legal. Male actors in local movies must wear condoms in penetration scenes. All actors must be 18 or older. When sold at public places, magazine and DVD covers that depict genitalia must be hidden from public view. Any pornography can only be sold to people 18 or older. d.. Bulgaria: Hardcore pornographic material is "not recommended" for distribution to persons under the age of 18. Softcore material is rarely censored, even by the state TV stations. Magazines and pornographic papers have become increasingly available since the fall of communism in the early 1990s. Due to the unstable economy, by the late 1990s only a few publishers remain. e.. Canada: Laws vary from province to province, however sale to persons under 18 (varies by province) is generally prohibited. Most materials are sold in adult stores, despite no specific law controlling the distribution. Canada Customs is empowered to stop the importation of materials prohibited under obscenity laws; many gay and lesbian bookstores have charged that this is applied in a discriminatory way to same-sex pornographic materials. Conversely, some over-the-air television stations (particularly Citytv and TQS) have broadcast softcore pornographic films after midnight. Child pornography is illegal, although a controversial recent Supreme Court of Canada decision on privacy rights significantly impacted government efforts to track and confiscate it. See also Censorship in Canada. f.. People's Republic of China: Recently legalized, adult magazines are sold publicly, although specifics of the regulation is not known. g.. Colombia: Child pornography prohibited under new constitution. Marketing is very strictly regulated. Most materials are sold on the black market. Bogota has at least 300 places where pornography (hardcore) may be legally obtained. h.. Denmark: Ban on pornographic literature was lifted in 1966. In 1969 Denmark was the first country in the world to legalise (hardcore) pornography. i.. France: Extremely violent or graphic pornography is considered X-rated, may be shown only in specific theaters, and may not be displayed to minors. Incurs special taxes on revenue (33% for X
RE: [wanita-muslimah] Tirani Dibalik Seni
> http://www.hidayatullah.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2913&Itemid=1 > > > "Tirani Dibalik Seni" > > Kamis, 23 Maret 2006 > > //Kaum feminis Barat sangat mengecam pornografi > bahkan tergabung dalam > Women Against Pornography (WAP). Kaum feminis > Indonesia sebaliknya. > Malah menganggap mengekang perempuan dan seni// > > Oleh: Syamsuddin Arif *) --- cut --- > Tak kalah anehnya reaksi kaum feminis Indonesia > dalam kontroversi ini. > Aneh, karena mereka ikut-ikutan menolak draf > undang-undang tersebut > dengan dalih membela kaum perempuan. Sementara kita > ketahui aktivis > perempuan di banyak negara justru sangat anti dan > mengecam > habis-habisan segala bentuk pornografi karena > dianggap menghina > perempuan. Sebutlah misalnya Andrea Dworkin, Susan > Brownmiller, Diana > Russell, Catherine MacKinnon, Dorchen Leidholdt dan > lain-lain yang > tergabung dalam Women Against Pornography (WAP) dan > National > Organization for Women (NOW) di Amerika, atau Alice > Schwarzer, Lore > Maria Peschel, dan Sabine Leutheusser dari Bonner > Frauenbündnis, Jerman. wuih Alice Schwarzer, Lore Maria Peschel dan Sabine Leutheusser pasti akan protes lho kalau nama mereka dikutip untuk memperkuat argumentasi pro-RUU APP. Ya, mereka sangat anti-pornografi, tetapi mereka pasti juga sangat anti RUU APP itu. Justru karena RUU APP itu tidak membedakan antara "pornografi" dan "tubuh perempuan". Herannya, di sini seorang tokoh aliran fundamentalisme (? cmiiw) Islam kok mengutip nama Alice Schwarzer untuk memperkuat argumentasinya... fyi Alice Schwarzer akhir2 ini di Jerman terkenal semakin anti-Islam, memukul rata jilbab = opresi totaliter terhadap perempuan, sama seperti Syamsuddin Arif memukul rata dalam memandang tubuh perempuan dan masalah pornografi, tak bisa membedakan antara porno, cabul dan erotik... Sedih juga melihat cara argumentasi ini, apalagi oleh seorang kandidat Dr. kedua... selektif dan manipulatif sekali dalam mengutip nama orang lain... para pembaca kan pasti tidak tahu posisi Alice Schwarzer yang sebenarnya... malah mereka dibuat berpikir ini feminis Barat semua pro RUU APP, sedangkan feminis Indonesia kok anti... padahal feminis Barat sama dengan feminis Indonesia pada umumnya anti-pornografi, tetapi jelas tidak anti-seni, seni dalam definisi Barat, dan anti-tubuh perempuan. Btw, menggunakan istilah "aurat" dalam membicarakan pornografi mungkin juga terlalu multitafsir sehingga membingungkan... soalnya kalau "aurat" yang tidak boleh diperlihatkan, berarti foto portrait perempuan tanpa jilbab bisa dianggap termasuk pornografi juga? kan auratnya (rambutnya) jelas sekali kelihatan? Bisa membuat laki2 birahi melihat keindahan rambut itu? > Akhirnya mari kita kembalikan masalah > pornografi-pornoaksi ini kepada > hati nurani dan rasa tanggung-jawab kita terhadap > masa depan bangsa. > Tanpa disadari bangsa yang tunduk kepada tirani hawa > nafsu sebenarnya > tengah melakukan proses bunuh diri. setuju... :) jangan mengalah terhadap tirani hawa nafsu paranoid yang mau eliminir daya tarik dan sensualitas tubuh kita yang diciptakan oleh Yang Maha Esa... mbok belajar menghadapinya secara dewasa dan civilized... jangan tunduk pada hawa nafsu main asal melarang dan suruh serba menutupi/menghilang... semakin dilarang, semakin dasyhat godaannya... semakin panik juga... semakin terjebat dalam dinamika bunuh diri dalam melawan "godaan" - bunuh diri secara psikologis, sosial dan kultural. The unconscious dream of the fundamentalists: there is nothing left but the desert, the sky and GOD's WORD. Peace on Earth, no more messy and ambiguous human conditions like different opinions or sexual attraction left to deal with... Sedihnya kalau orang yang sudah lama (?) tinggal dan belajar di Barat, malah sudah program doktor kedua, tapi etika argumentasinya dengan menyebut pendapat orang lain kok manipulatif ya... menyesatkan pembacanya... :( Yang jelas pemahaman Alice Schwarzer cs tentang "pornografi" sangat berbeda dengan "pornografi" dan "pornoaksi" yang dimaksud oleh Syamsuddin Arif. salam, Ni Londo = > Penulis adalah peneliti pada Institute for the Studi > of Islamic > Thought and Civilization (INSISTS). Kini menempuh > program doktor > keduanya di Universitas Frankfurt, Jerman. Tulisan > ini dimuat di > www.hidayatullah.com > ___ Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http://messenger.yahoo.de Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/aYWolB/TM ~-> Milis Wanita Muslimah Membangun citra wanita muslimah dalam diri, keluarga, maupun masyarakat. Situs Web: http://www.wanita-muslimah.com ARSIP DISKUSI
