[wdvltalk] Re: an input puzzle - html/php

2004-03-23 Thread Smile-Poet
 Smile-Poet wrote:
  In the book I am trying to 'learn and make' from this is an input line
from
  a sign up form.
 
  td  align=left valign=topinput id=last_name name=last_name
  type=text value=?=$_POST['last_name'];? //td
 

 I do the same thing. When the form is displayed initially, with a simple
 link to the script, there are no values in the $_POST array so
 $_POST['last_name]' is blank and the result is value=

 When someone fills in the form and posts it back to the script
 $_POST['last_name'] may have a value. The script should do some error
 checking for missing input (or whatever else it requires). If something
 is wrong then the form will be redisplayed but with the user's input for
 last_name and the other fields echoed. This is much better than the
 usual instructions to 'go back and complete the form'.

 Does that make sense?

 Sheila
 --

Sheila,

The problem is that this (the 'value=' ' entry) appears on the form:

?=$_POST['last_name'];?

and similar entries in the other input windows.   These do not clear and
have to be deleted when the requested detail is being inserted.

The script does what you describe and returns the form with a message
specifying where the fresh entry needs to be made.But can this be
achieved only with the little piece of script turning up on the form when
first called?   And having to be deleted?   In the book the fields are shown
blank, but I cannot see anything that I am not copying as instructed.

And, although the form code has this

input name=req type=hidden  id=req value=process 

and the script has this

switch ($_REQUEST['req']) {

I get an error message that 'req' is not defined.I mention it because it
seems possible the two problems are connected.

Joseph


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[wdvltalk] Re: an input puzzle - html/php

2004-03-23 Thread Bj
- Original Message - 
From: Smile-Poet

 The problem is that this (the 'value=' ' entry) appears on the form:

 ?=$_POST['last_name'];?

This means php isn't seeing the page before it's sent to the browser.

I bet you are running this on your local PC.  And I bet you are
double-clicking the shortcut to open it, or just putting the page address
into the browser (file://C:/pages/mypage.htm style of thing), or smething
instead of browsing http://localhost/mypage.htm, so that when it first shows
up it isn't getting processed by the Web server and therefore the php is
being seen and displayed by the browser instead of being processed by php.

 And, although the form code has this

 input name=req type=hidden  id=req value=process 

 and the script has this

 switch ($_REQUEST['req']) {

 I get an error message that 'req' is not defined.

Looks to me like a dumb mistake by the script author proving (s)he never
tested it after writing it..  Should be $_POST['req'] - there is no REQUEST
set of variables in php.


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[wdvltalk] Re: an input puzzle - html/php

2004-03-23 Thread Sheila Fenelon
Bj wrote:
- Original Message - 
From: Smile-Poet


The problem is that this (the 'value=' ' entry) appears on the form:

?=$_POST['last_name'];?


This means php isn't seeing the page before it's sent to the browser.

I bet you are running this on your local PC.  And I bet you are
double-clicking the shortcut to open it, or just putting the page address
into the browser (file://C:/pages/mypage.htm style of thing), or smething
instead of browsing http://localhost/mypage.htm, so that when it first shows
up it isn't getting processed by the Web server and therefore the php is
being seen and displayed by the browser instead of being processed by php.
The pages need to be .php not .htm in order to be processed by the PHP 
interpreter.


And, although the form code has this

input name=req type=hidden  id=req value=process 

and the script has this

switch ($_REQUEST['req']) {

I get an error message that 'req' is not defined.


Looks to me like a dumb mistake by the script author proving (s)he never
tested it after writing it..  Should be $_POST['req'] - there is no REQUEST
set of variables in php.
$_REQUEST does exist.
http://www.php.net/manual/en/reserved.variables.php#reserved.variables.request
The script is complaining about $_REQUEST['req'] which does not exist 
the first time through unless you add it to the URL:

   http://localhost/mypage.php?req=somevalue

That's not the best solution. Better would be to test if 
$_REQUEST['req'] exists and assign a value to a variable based on the 
result.

   if (isset($_REQUEST['req']) {
  $myRequest = $_REQUEST['req'];
   } else {
  $myRequest = 'somevalue';
   }
Then change the switch variable

   switch ($myRequest) {

Note that 'somevalue' needs to be the actual value needed to make the 
form display empty.

I hope all this makes sense. It would be easier to explain with more of 
the script to look at.

Sheila
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[wdvltalk] Re: an input puzzle - html/php

2004-03-23 Thread Bj
- Original Message - 
From: Sheila Fenelon

  instead of browsing http://localhost/mypage.htm

 The pages need to be .php not .htm in order to be processed
 by the PHP interpreter.

It's true, I make dumb typing mistakes too, and...

  there is no REQUEST set of variables in php.

 $_REQUEST does exist.

http://www.php.net/manual/en/reserved.variables.php#reserved.variables.request

Pants, and after I looked so carefully through my php help file...

Request variables: $_REQUEST
Note: Introduced in 4.1.0. There is no equivalent array in earlier
versions.

Oh well if they're going to keep changing the thing as fast as I learn it...
:-/

Time to download a new .chm file I think
Sorry Joseph


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[wdvltalk] Re: an input puzzle - html/php

2004-03-23 Thread Sheila Fenelon
Bj wrote:
Request variables: $_REQUEST
Note: Introduced in 4.1.0. There is no equivalent array in earlier
versions.
Oh well if they're going to keep changing the thing as fast as I learn it...
:-/
That's one of the annoying thing about learning PHP, it's a moving 
target. Tutorials and books can go out of date quickly.

Sheila

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[wdvltalk] Re: an input puzzle - html/php

2004-03-23 Thread Smile-Poet
Bj wrote

...isn't getting processed by the Web server and therefore the php is
 being seen and displayed by the browser instead of being processed by
php

I am calling the  form directly (though through the server) so you have
sorted that for me  -- thank you.

And the $_REQUEST   --  I had wondered from what I had digested of the
manual on this if that might be so.And changing it to $_POST moves the
errors on a bit;  even  got ZA asking if Apache could send emails.

As you suggest I am wondering, not so much if it was tested, as if it was
rewritten rather than pasted into the book.   I have identified things like
'.' instead of'';' and things like this $_REQUEST which I haven't yet
confidence to challenge.

It is possible that it is an adaptation of a set of scripts he describes
creating for a phone directory site.   If he didn't then test it can be full
of errors of course.

Thanks Bj,

Joseph


 - Original Message - 
 From: Smile-Poet

  The problem is that this (the 'value=' ' entry) appears on the form:
 
  ?=$_POST['last_name'];?

 This means php isn't seeing the page before it's sent to the browser.

 I bet you are running this on your local PC.  And I bet you are
 double-clicking the shortcut to open it, or just putting the page address
 into the browser (file://C:/pages/mypage.htm style of thing), or smething
 instead of browsing http://localhost/mypage.htm, so that when it first
shows
 up it isn't getting processed by the Web server and therefore the php is
 being seen and displayed by the browser instead of being processed by php.

  And, although the form code has this
 
  input name=req type=hidden  id=req value=process 
 
  and the script has this
 
  switch ($_REQUEST['req']) {
 
  I get an error message that 'req' is not defined.

 Looks to me like a dumb mistake by the script author proving (s)he never
 tested it after writing it..  Should be $_POST['req'] - there is no
REQUEST
 set of variables in php.


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[wdvltalk] Re: an input puzzle - html/php

2004-03-23 Thread Smile-Poet
Sheila,

I am at the stage a bit like the nascent swimmer made to take his feet off
the bottom;  I've done that and I still can't swim!   Hope to do better with
this ;-).

First the form.   This will - I haven't got to it - be called by a php
script so the php should be read then.   If not 'I'll be back'.

I follow the principle  of the isset code, but don't yet grasp the code
itself.   I don't know how much of the script to show you, but here is the
first twenty or so lines.   I have already needed to set the top variables
and have now changed the $_REQUEST back for you to see::

?php
include $_SERVER['DOCUMENT_ROOT'].'/layout.php';
   //set some variables
$email_error = false;
$password_error = false;

switch ($_REQUEST['req']) {
  case process : // code to process signup input and place in database

 myheader(Become a member: step 2);

 //Validate all required fields were posted
 if(!$_POST['first_name'] ||
  !$_POST['last_name'] ||
   !$_POST['email_address'] ||
  !$_POST['email_address2'] ||
  !$_POST['username'] ||
  !$_POST['password'] ||
  !$_POST['password2'] ||
  !$_POST['bio']){

  $error = true;
  $errors = h4Form Input Errors:.
/h4\n\n;

if (!$_POST['first_name']) {
  $errors .= Missing first Name\n;
}
if (!$_POST['last_name']) {
   $errors .= Missing Last Name\n;
}

I also came across the point that use of $_REQUEST has security issues, but
imagine that is if it is overused rather than used where it is the best
option.

Joseph

 Bj wrote:
  - Original Message - 
  From: Smile-Poet
 
 
 The problem is that this (the 'value=' ' entry) appears on the form:
 
 ?=$_POST['last_name'];?
 
 
  This means php isn't seeing the page before it's sent to the browser.
 
  I bet you are running this on your local PC.  And I bet you are
  double-clicking the shortcut to open it, or just putting the page
address
  into the browser (file://C:/pages/mypage.htm style of thing), or
smething
  instead of browsing http://localhost/mypage.htm, so that when it first
shows
  up it isn't getting processed by the Web server and therefore the php is
  being seen and displayed by the browser instead of being processed by
php.
 

 The pages need to be .php not .htm in order to be processed by the PHP
 interpreter.

 
 And, although the form code has this
 
 input name=req type=hidden  id=req value=process 
 
 and the script has this
 
 switch ($_REQUEST['req']) {
 
 I get an error message that 'req' is not defined.
 
 
  Looks to me like a dumb mistake by the script author proving (s)he never
  tested it after writing it..  Should be $_POST['req'] - there is no
REQUEST
  set of variables in php.
 

 $_REQUEST does exist.

http://www.php.net/manual/en/reserved.variables.php#reserved.variables.request

 The script is complaining about $_REQUEST['req'] which does not exist
 the first time through unless you add it to the URL:

 http://localhost/mypage.php?req=somevalue

 That's not the best solution. Better would be to test if
 $_REQUEST['req'] exists and assign a value to a variable based on the
 result.

 if (isset($_REQUEST['req']) {
$myRequest = $_REQUEST['req'];
 } else {
$myRequest = 'somevalue';
 }

 Then change the switch variable

 switch ($myRequest) {

 Note that 'somevalue' needs to be the actual value needed to make the
 form display empty.

 I hope all this makes sense. It would be easier to explain with more of
 the script to look at.


 Sheila


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[wdvltalk] Re: an input puzzle - html/php

2004-03-23 Thread Smile-Poet
 Time to download a new .chm file I think
 Sorry Joseph


New or old it is still mostly Greek to me :-o.   My copy is the up to date
one and there certainly is a lot about changes.   If I understand rightly
the objective is to make this do the job any other script can do, but in
plainer English.   And the changes are going to come thick and fast.

I certainly do not think I would even have attempted anything more
difficult.   And I am trying to run (limp haltingly) before I can walk.   I
find your advice very helpful, and even if there is error the discussion of
it brings clarity.   As I am not at a class I find these discussions a
refreshing aid to learning.

And a proof that some at least of my fog may be forgiven.

Joseph


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[wdvltalk] PDF list(s)?

2004-03-23 Thread Krawec, Mark
Hi the list

Does anybody know of a PDF discussion list where I could float a printing
question?  I'm getting no satisfaction from Google, AllTheWeb, or Adobe's
(fairly user-hostile) fora.

thanks
Mark

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[wdvltalk] Re: PDF list(s)?

2004-03-23 Thread Mark Groen
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Subject: [wdvltalk] PDF list(s)?


 Does anybody know of a PDF discussion list where I could float a
printing
 question?  I'm getting no satisfaction from Google, AllTheWeb, or
Adobe's
 (fairly user-hostile) fora.

Probably someone on this list has an answer, question?

cheers,

   Mark


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[wdvltalk] Re: PDF list(s)?

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Hi the list

Does anybody know of a PDF discussion list where I could float a
printing
question?  I'm getting no satisfaction from Google, AllTheWeb, or
Adobe's
(fairly user-hostile) fora.

thanks
Mark

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[wdvltalk] Body of an e-mail?

2004-03-23 Thread mrport
Hi all,

I am doing a website for a local caterer.  She wants people to have the
option of looking at the menu online and then either faxing, e-mailing or
calling in what they want.  My question is about the e-mail - is there
some way to get the person's order in the body of the e-mail so that they
don't have to retype what they want??

TIA,
Riva


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Certified Webdesigner
Star Quality Designs
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[wdvltalk] Re: Body of an e-mail?

2004-03-23 Thread Bj
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 My question is about the e-mail - is there some way
 to get the person's order in the body of the e-mail so
 that they don't have to retype what they want??

If you mean - take what they picked from an online form and email it to the
business, you could by huge ingenuity do it through Javascript and a mailto:
link but it's far easier if you have CGI on the server.  Most ISPs even if
they don't let you write your own scripts offer a cgi script called formmail
that lest you take information the client enters in a form and email that
info to a selected address.  But this is a bit clumsy and the best way to do
it is scripting with Perl, ASP or php.

If you mean - can the business take the email the customer sent and use it
as data input then that's possible too, if the email is generated from the
Web page by a script so it's in a standard format.

So... how about some clarification of what you want to achieve, and what
facilities and skills you have to work with?  (Can you program in Perl. ASP
or php, if not does the hosting company offer formmail?)


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[wdvltalk] Re: Body of an e-mail?

2004-03-23 Thread mrport
Actually, it hit me after I sent the e-mail that I can just add
checkboxes and a form in the code so people can just check what they want
and it will be e-mailed to them.  (This is a cheap, quick website - I can
do Perl but figure a quick form from Bravenet.com would do the trick.)

Thank you for replying.
Riva

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 So... how about some clarification of what you want to achieve, and
what facilities and skills you have to work with?  (Can you program in 
 Perl. ASP or php, if not does the hosting company offer formmail?)


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[wdvltalk] CSS text doesn't look consistent

2004-03-23 Thread David Prowak
Hi,

I've got a site I built that has links on the left
hand side that are coded as 
font-size: x-small
in the CSS.

http://www.felicegc.com/

I've had a complaint that from some PCs the text looks
smaller, while on another PC it looks to be the
default size.

What could be causing this?  (Both PCs are using IE 6.
 Also, it looks fine on IE 5.5)

Thanks,
Dave

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[wdvltalk] RE: CSS text doesn't look consistent

2004-03-23 Thread Cheryl D. Wise
Have you looked to see what size the browser uses for its default? When I've
been testing sometimes I forget to return the browser to medium and get
quite a shock when I was testing something that turned out to have a fixed
px/pt size and later open it to a site that uses relative sizing. Suddenly
the text is huge or microscopic.


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-Original Message-
From: David Prowak 

I've got a site I built that has links on the left hand side that are coded
as
font-size: x-small
in the CSS.

http://www.felicegc.com/

I've had a complaint that from some PCs the text looks smaller, while on
another PC it looks to be the default size.

What could be causing this?  (Both PCs are using IE 6.
 Also, it looks fine on IE 5.5)


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[wdvltalk] JavaScript Question

2004-03-23 Thread mrport
Hi all,

I was wondering if there is a way to check if a field in a form has been
left blank and, if it is, not have it appear on the e-mail (that I get
from the form processor.)

For example, my code is:

td width=5%
input type=checkbox name=Butternut Squash Soup
value=Butternut Squash Soup size=2 /
input name=Butternut Squash Soup quantity type=text size=2
maxlength=5 /
/td
td width=23%Butternut Squash/td

I want people to be able to check the checkbox if they want the item and
then put in the quantity in the quantity box.  If they don't check the
box, nothing for that item comes back on the form. When I get the form
back, it has all the quantity items, even if they didn't enter a
quantity.
Am I making any sense?

TIA,
Riva

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[wdvltalk] Re: CSS text doesn't look consistent

2004-03-23 Thread Jan
David Prowak wrote:
Hi,
I've got a site I built that has links on the left
hand side that are coded as 
font-size: x-small
in the CSS.
http://www.felicegc.com/
I've had a complaint that from some PCs the text looks
smaller, while on another PC it looks to be the
default size.
What could be causing this?  (Both PCs are using IE 6.
 Also, it looks fine on IE 5.5)

Thanks,
Dave
Right away I noticed one of your css classes is incorrect:
.navTable {
color : #66;
font-weight : bold;
; font-size: x-small
}
You have a semi-colon in front of the font-size. It should be:
.navTable { color: #66;
font-weight: bold;
font-size: x-small;   (this ; is optional on the last one)
}
I think that x-small and smaller font sizes are just too difficult 
for many people to read. The text is small using 800x600, but at 
1024x768 the text is too small to read comfortably.

Just my .02

Jan



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[wdvltalk] Re: JavaScript Question

2004-03-23 Thread R'twick Niceorgaw
sure it can be done

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi all,

I was wondering if there is a way to check if a field in a form has been
left blank and, if it is, not have it appear on the e-mail (that I get
from the form processor.)

For example, my code is:

td width=5%
input type=checkbox name=Butternut Squash Soup
value=Butternut Squash Soup size=2 /
input name=Butternut Squash Soup quantity type=text size=2
maxlength=5 /
/td
td width=23%Butternut Squash/td

I want people to be able to check the checkbox if they want the item and
then put in the quantity in the quantity box.  If they don't check the
box, nothing for that item comes back on the form. When I get the form
back, it has all the quantity items, even if they didn't enter a
quantity.
Am I making any sense?
  


do not put spaces in the form element names (name=Butternut_Squash_Soup)
is good.

in the form .. tag add something like onSubmit=validate_form() like

form name=f1 method=post action=your_url onSubmit= return
validate_f1(this);

/form

now somewhere in the head part put something like

script language=javascript
function validate_f1(f) {

if ( !f.Butternut_Squash_Soup.selected)
f.Butternut_Squash_Soup_Quantity.value='';

}

put other form elements that u want to check in this function.

(NOTE this is untested. check a javascript book to get correct syntax)

HTH
R'twick

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[wdvltalk] Re: JavaScript Question

2004-03-23 Thread mrport
Thank you - I will fiddle with this in the morning.

:-)
Riva

On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 23:00:19 -0500 R'twick Niceorgaw
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[wdvltalk] Re: CSS text doesn't look consistent

2004-03-23 Thread Tucson-WebDesign - Al Guevara
AT 1164 by 868, it looks fine.
Al
At 3/23/2004   06:59 PM, you wrote:
Hi,

I've got a site I built that has links on the left
hand side that are coded as
font-size: x-small
in the CSS.
http://www.felicegc.com/

I've had a complaint that from some PCs the text looks
smaller, while on another PC it looks to be the
default size.
What could be cau


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[wdvltalk] RE: CSS text doesn't look consistent

2004-03-23 Thread Tucson-WebDesign - Al Guevara
I thought the IE default size was smaller, not medium?
Al
At 3/23/2004   08:21 PM, you wrote:
Have you looked to see what size the browser uses for its default? When I've
been testing sometimes I forget to return the browser to medium and get
quite a shock when I was testing something that turned out to have a fixed
px/pt size and later open it to a site that uses relative sizing. Suddenly
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-Original Message-
From: David Prowak
I've got a site I built that has links on the left hand side that are coded
as
font-size: x-small
in the CSS.
http://www.felicegc.com/

I've had a complaint that from some PCs the text looks smaller, while on
another PC it looks to be the default size.
What could be causing this?  (Both PCs are using IE 6.
 Also, it looks fine on IE 5.5)
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[wdvltalk] RE: CSS text doesn't look consistent

2004-03-23 Thread Cheryl D. Wise
Medium is the default in IE and all other browsers. However the physical
size of medium varies from browser to browser with Netscape/Mozilla
usually being smaller than IE. 


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-Original Message-
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I thought the IE default size was smaller, not medium?


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