RE: [wdvltalk] Picture question

2007-01-31 Thread Cheryl Wise
SwishMas has a much, much lower learning curve than Flash but I would be doing 
my best to talk any client of mine out of a Flash website. Using Flash for 
extra bits is one thing but a full Flash site unless they are willing to pay 
for full accessible Flash (something that has a much steeper learning curve and 
I'm not sure is even possible with SwishMax) since otherwise too many people 
and most search engines will not be able to use the site at all.

Usually mentioning that Google can't follow links in Flash files without the 
considerable extra expense of accessible Flash usually stops the idea of an all 
Flash site in its tracks.

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-Original Message-
From: Hoenig, Robert 

Has anyone had experience using SwishMax for creating flash files?  I've got a 
couple clients looking for flash websites but I don't have the money or the 
knowledge to buy flash.  As much as I want to learn it I don't have the time.  
Any recommendations on SwishMax or any other Flash creation utility would be 
great.


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Re: [wdvltalk] Picture question

2007-01-31 Thread Hoenig, Robert
Has anyone had experience using SwishMax for creating flash files?  I've got a 
couple clients looking for flash websites but I don't have the money or the 
knowledge to buy flash.  As much as I want to learn it I don't have the time.  
Any recommendations on SwishMax or any other Flash creation utility would be 
great.

thanks
robert

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RE: [wdvltalk] Picture question

2007-01-31 Thread Cheryl Wise
Sunshine - you have sunshine? I'm so jealous. I'm trying to decide if I want
to put on some boots and head off to Starbucsk (I'd rather head to the pub
but then I really would not get any work done) or throw some logs I the
fireplace and move over near it.

BTW, its good to see you posting again.

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-Original Message-
From: Franni Vincent 

I've just paid the taxman & delivered all the damn forms - yes it's 
that time of year here, and I'm going to reward myself by taking the 
rest of the afternoon off & taking the dogs out for a run... well, 
the dogs will be running, I will be  wandering along behind enjoying 
the sunshine.


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Re: [wdvltalk] Picture question

2007-01-31 Thread Franni Vincent


I guess there's little you can do about the decor in the view of the 
restaurant, talk about 'busy'... but one thing I can suggect is 
blowing the dust off the photos before you scan, plus taking some 
glass/window cleaner on a soft cloth & polishing the scanner bed. 
Both will help leave you much less to do in cleaning up the 
background!  I do think rescanning at a higher res will help...


The cake - I don't know what other people think, but I'd suggest 
first getting rid of whatever is in the left hand background, it's a 
very quick job with clone tool/airbrush in photoshop, so it should be 
in your graphics package too & if the client's willing, cropping & 
axing the satellite cakes - another good reason for rescanning at 
higher res to give yourself some wiggle room . Then you really 
need to adjust the levels so you can actually see the midtones in the 
yellow flowers properly & the texture & shadows on the icing - at the 
moment they're completely washed out, & just doing this will improve 
the picture hugely. Give it a go! Then we're onto 
sharpening/blurringat the moment the focus is on the fabric in 
front of the cake, rather than the cake so I'd say a little of both 
necessary to bring up what you want the spotlight on BUT - All this 
of course is down to the photographs you've been given, and 
chargeable to the client because you can spend a LONG time on 
this. I reckon if they won't pay, then better scanning is the most 
they can expect of you - better advise them to get a good photograph 
taken.  It might pay you to team up with a good local photographer 
whose work you could recommend in future?


I've just paid the taxman & delivered all the damn forms - yes it's 
that time of year here, and I'm going to reward myself by taking the 
rest of the afternoon off & taking the dogs out for a run... well, 
the dogs will be running, I will be  wandering along behind enjoying 
the sunshine.


Franni

Okay. I posted the pics online here: 
http://www.starqualitydesigns.com/testpics.htm. I put the actual 
sized pictures below with smaller versions on top so you can see 
what I am aiming for. I realize that I need to clean up the 
background in them but any other feedback would be appreciated.


Thanks,
Riva

Franni Vincent wrote:

hi Riva,
If you have the original photos, you shouldn't have a problem - no, 
scratch that, your ONLY prob should be the quality of the 
photos I recall only too clearly having to remove in photoshop 
the litter which a client was too stupid/idle to sweep away before 
taking the photo (unfortunately couldn't fix the faces of his 
sales staff!)
But as someone (ross?) said earlier, scanning the originals at a 
higher resolution's going to be your best bet. Why don't you upload 
one & give us the URL so we can have a look at it?



Franni


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Re: [wdvltalk] Picture question

2007-01-30 Thread Portman
Okay. I posted the pics online here: 
http://www.starqualitydesigns.com/testpics.htm. I put the actual sized 
pictures below with smaller versions on top so you can see what I am 
aiming for. I realize that I need to clean up the background in them but 
any other feedback would be appreciated.


Thanks,
Riva

Franni Vincent wrote:

hi Riva,
If you have the original photos, you shouldn't have a problem - no, 
scratch that, your ONLY prob should be the quality of the photos I 
recall only too clearly having to remove in photoshop the litter which 
a client was too stupid/idle to sweep away before taking the photo 
(unfortunately couldn't fix the faces of his sales staff!)
But as someone (ross?) said earlier, scanning the originals at a 
higher resolution's going to be your best bet. Why don't you upload 
one & give us the URL so we can have a look at it?



Franni


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Re: [wdvltalk] Picture question

2007-01-30 Thread Franni Vincent

hi Riva,
If you have the original photos, you shouldn't have a problem - no, 
scratch that, your ONLY prob should be the quality of the photos 
I recall only too clearly having to remove in photoshop the litter 
which a client was too stupid/idle to sweep away before taking the 
photo (unfortunately couldn't fix the faces of his sales staff!)
But as someone (ross?) said earlier, scanning the originals at a 
higher resolution's going to be your best bet. Why don't you upload 
one & give us the URL so we can have a look at it?



Franni



Hi Franni,

I was given some photographs - some of them have two or more 
pictures per page. I am going to try scanning in again and then 
downsizing (if they are bigger). If not, I am not sure what to do.


Thanks,
Riva



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Re: [wdvltalk] Picture question

2007-01-30 Thread Portman

Hi Franni,

I was given some photographs - some of them have two or more pictures 
per page. I am going to try scanning in again and then downsizing (if 
they are bigger). If not, I am not sure what to do.


Thanks,
Riva

Franni Vincent wrote:
Try resizing again but saving in the highest quality (ie least 
compression) jpg?


A thought - You can size *down* to 2100 x 1500 pixels if you have 
original images larger than this, but it's just about impossible to 
size up & get something that's decent quality. What were you given to 
work with?



Franni


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Re: [wdvltalk] Picture question

2007-01-30 Thread Franni Vincent

Hi all,

A client of mine is doing a promo and asked me to get the digital 
part ready for her. They want 1 - 3 pictures in jpeg format, 5 x 7 x 
300dpi. I chose pictures, resized them to 5 x 7 inches and 300 dpi 
but got a message that they were very contrasty and pixelated - any 
ideas as to what I am doing wrong? (I am using GIMP.)


Thanks,
Riva

Try resizing again but saving in the highest quality (ie least 
compression) jpg?


A thought - You can size *down* to 2100 x 1500 pixels if you have 
original images larger than this, but it's just about impossible to 
size up & get something that's decent quality. What were you given to 
work with?



Franni

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Re: [wdvltalk] Picture question

2007-01-30 Thread Portman

Thank you! I appreciate the help.

Riva

Ross Clutterbuck wrote:

If the images are pixelated it's more than likely you've had to scale up the
images to get them that big - what was your original source? Digital cameras
don't shoot as big as 5" x 7" 300dpi so you've pretty much doubled (or even
tripled) the size of the file to fit the dimensions, which will cause
horrible pixelation and distortion.

Try doing things the old fashioned way - print the images out at their
native size on good quality paper and settings then scan them in at 600dpi.
You should then have enough material to work with the then *shrink* the
images to your required size, which will maintain quality and get rid of
most of the Moiré patterns you'll get with high-res scanning (although it's
advisable to do that clean-up before you shrink).

Can't offer any specific advice with GIMP though as I'm a Photoshop boy all
round...always worth the money.

MOU


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RE: [wdvltalk] Picture question

2007-01-30 Thread Ross Clutterbuck
If the images are pixelated it's more than likely you've had to scale up the
images to get them that big - what was your original source? Digital cameras
don't shoot as big as 5" x 7" 300dpi so you've pretty much doubled (or even
tripled) the size of the file to fit the dimensions, which will cause
horrible pixelation and distortion.

Try doing things the old fashioned way - print the images out at their
native size on good quality paper and settings then scan them in at 600dpi.
You should then have enough material to work with the then *shrink* the
images to your required size, which will maintain quality and get rid of
most of the Moiré patterns you'll get with high-res scanning (although it's
advisable to do that clean-up before you shrink).

Can't offer any specific advice with GIMP though as I'm a Photoshop boy all
round...always worth the money.

MOU





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[wdvltalk] Picture question

2007-01-30 Thread Portman

Hi all,

A client of mine is doing a promo and asked me to get the digital part 
ready for her. They want 1 - 3 pictures in jpeg format, 5 x 7 x 300dpi. 
I chose pictures, resized them to 5 x 7 inches and 300 dpi but got a 
message that they were very contrasty and pixelated - any ideas as to 
what I am doing wrong? (I am using GIMP.)


Thanks,
Riva

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