[wdvltalk] Re: FW: centering a page

2003-03-08 Thread K. F. Wu
How about putting  around the master ?

At 02:47 PM 3/8/2003, you wrote:


Jim,

I am returning this to the list, so in case some one else might help...I
didn't realize with the last message you had gone offlist.
Yeah, if I wrap it in a table, all is well; but what I failed to mention
(sorry) was that I was explicitly trying to NOT use tables. Everyone keeps
talking about this "table-less design crap" so I thought I'd give it a try.
This is for a personal fun page, so it doesn't have to be real
cross-browser, but I just wanted to give DIVs as layout a try.
Any other ideas? Anyone? CSS gurus?

(example of problem is at web address below)

J.R.



Thanks for your response.

I did put it up so you can see.

Start at http://64.37.97.190/center.html

Thanks,

J.R.
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hey there JR had to be something simple like this:
wrap the whole darn thing into a table and align='center' the table!  see if
that works. my 'puter is at 800 x 600 so i can't view it bigger (without all
my desktop icons re-arranging, lol). but it looks like it's working.
see ex. attached.   hope that works!
~Jim


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[wdvltalk] Re: FW: centering a page

2003-03-08 Thread Amanda Birmingham
Hi,
Horizontal centering can be done purely with CSS.  Check out 
http://bluerobot.com/web/layouts/ and read the  "Related Info at BlueRobot" 
snippet at the bottom of the page ... it has links to two methods.

HTH,
Amanda Birmingham
Web Application Developer
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[wdvltalk] Re: FW: centering a page

2003-03-08 Thread J.R. Pitts
Thanks Amanda, but it didn't work. I tried both methods, and several
combinations and permutations thereof.
No dice.

Hopefully someone will be able to help.

http://64.37.97.190/center.html

J.R.

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Hi,
Horizontal centering can be done purely with CSS.  Check out
http://bluerobot.com/web/layouts/ and read the  "Related Info at BlueRobot"
snippet at the bottom of the page ... it has links to two methods.

HTH,
Amanda Birmingham
Web Application Developer


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[wdvltalk] Re: FW: centering a page

2003-03-08 Thread Amanda Birmingham
J.R.,
When I downloaded your page & stylesheet to my machine and set it up with 
the auto-width margins centering, it seems to works fine (IE 6 on 
Win2k).  I did have to change the example's width and id specified for the 
main container element to match those of your page; all I did was replace 
the body and FullContainer formatting in your stylesheet with

body {
margin:50px 0px; padding:0px;
text-align:center;
}
#FullContainer {
width:700px;
margin:0px auto;
text-align:left;
padding:15px;
}
Let me know if you want me to send you a screenshot.  What browser are you 
testing on?

Amanda

At 11:03 PM 3/8/2003 -0500, you wrote:

Thanks Amanda, but it didn't work. I tried both methods, and several
combinations and permutations thereof.
No dice.
Hopefully someone will be able to help.

http://64.37.97.190/center.html

J.R.

-Original Message-
From: Amanda Birmingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 6:33 PM
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Subject: [wdvltalk] Re: FW: centering a page
Hi,
Horizontal centering can be done purely with CSS.  Check out
http://bluerobot.com/web/layouts/ and read the  "Related Info at BlueRobot"
snippet at the bottom of the page ... it has links to two methods.
HTH,
Amanda Birmingham
Web Application Developer


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[wdvltalk] Re: FW: centering a page

2003-03-09 Thread J.R. Pitts
I went back and tried it again, and it works on my test case (don't know
what I screwed up before.)

Thanks,

J.R.

PS...I still don't think I'll be using CSS for layout on client sites very
soon. Still too unpredictable.

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Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 11:25 PM
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J.R.,
When I downloaded your page & stylesheet to my machine and set it up with
the auto-width margins centering, it seems to works fine (IE 6 on
Win2k).  I did have to change the example's width and id specified for the
main container element to match those of your page; all I did was replace
the body and FullContainer formatting in your stylesheet with

body {
 margin:50px 0px; padding:0px;
 text-align:center;
 }

#FullContainer {
 width:700px;
 margin:0px auto;
 text-align:left;
 padding:15px;
 }

Let me know if you want me to send you a screenshot.  What browser are you
testing on?

Amanda


At 11:03 PM 3/8/2003 -0500, you wrote:

>Thanks Amanda, but it didn't work. I tried both methods, and several
>combinations and permutations thereof.
>No dice.
>
>Hopefully someone will be able to help.
>
>http://64.37.97.190/center.html
>
>J.R.
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Amanda Birmingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 6:33 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: [wdvltalk] Re: FW: centering a page
>
>
>Hi,
>Horizontal centering can be done purely with CSS.  Check out
>http://bluerobot.com/web/layouts/ and read the  "Related Info at BlueRobot"
>snippet at the bottom of the page ... it has links to two methods.
>
>HTH,
>Amanda Birmingham
>Web Application Developer


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[wdvltalk] Re: FW: centering a page

2003-03-09 Thread Jan Major
J.R.
This seems to work for me using your style2.css and
I just slightly modified your center.html page:
css centering 2

<br>
<!--<br>
a {color: blue;<br>
	text-decoration: underline;<br>
	}<br>
--><br>



This looks right iff (that's if and only if for you non-mathers out 
there; kinda like an "exclusive if"? anyway) you are viewing it at 
about a 1024px width. That's because the DIVs have had 75px added to 
the left. There should be someway to center the original in all instances without it coming out 
like this.



   This is a banner

   some menu buttons 

  
   info card 
   some left thing 
   the content area 





Jan
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J.R. Pitts wrote:
Thanks Amanda, but it didn't work. I tried both methods, and several
combinations and permutations thereof.
No dice.
Hopefully someone will be able to help.

http://64.37.97.190/center.html

J.R.

-Original Message-
From: Amanda Birmingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 6:33 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [wdvltalk] Re: FW: centering a page
Hi,
Horizontal centering can be done purely with CSS.  Check out
http://bluerobot.com/web/layouts/ and read the  "Related Info at BlueRobot"
snippet at the bottom of the page ... it has links to two methods.
HTH,
Amanda Birmingham
Web Application Developer
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[wdvltalk] Re: FW: centering a page

2003-03-10 Thread Furry, Tim
J.R. wrote:
I went back and tried it again, and it works on my test case (don't know
what I screwed up before.)

Tim sez:
One thing I've learned to do, since I usually test with IE first, is to
do the "Tools / Internet Options / General / Delete Temporary Internet
files" quite often - sometimes with every code change.  Even with ASP
pages, if I make changes in the associated .css files, the browser cache
doesn't recognize the changes and loads up the old stuff rather than
pull down the new versions.

MANY times I've tweaked and tweaked code to no avail only to find out
the real problem was the browser caching rather than my code being
broken.  It bites.  :-)  I know, I know...I could probably turn it
off...but it lets me see what other people are experiencing, and I do
lean on the cache for some of our images.

Tim
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