RE: [wdvltalk] Dreamweaver update

2005-04-07 Thread Trusz, Andrew
 

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Hi Drew,

The widths have been changed in the code.  That is what is so frustrating.
If you right click on the home page you can see the code has been altered to
allow the different widths of the new tabs.  The code is:

===
That is your problem -- you've changed the widths of the columns. You can
combine columns but you can't simply alter the widths. Here's what I mean.
The first row is your spacer gif -- this sets the widths for all the columns
in the table. The second is the widths for your tabs. You'll see that they
don't match. In the second code sample. I've changed them to match. I don't
have the images included in the examples but if you paste these samples into
a demo page which can access the images, you'll see what I mean.

Your current code with the spacer given greater height so you can see it.
I've stripped out the mouse over for brevity and because the code keep
throwing errors. Look at the cell alignment between the two rows.






















  

 

http://www.goldtech2000.com/goldtech/index.html";>

http://www.goldtech2000.com/network/index.html";>

http://www.goldtech2000.com/structured_cabling/index.html";>

http://www.goldtech2000.com/telecom/index.html";>

http://www.goldtech2000.com/staff_augmentation/index.html";>

http://www.goldtech2000.com/contact/index.html";>






  



Now look at the revised code. The cell widths are consistent between rows. I
found the visual problems cleared completely doing it this way. 























  
 

http://www.goldtech2000.com/goldtech/index.html"; >

http://www.goldtech2000.com/network/index.html"; >

http://www.goldtech2000.com/structured_cabling/index.html";
>

http://www.goldtech2000.com/telecom/index.html"; >

http://www.goldtech2000.com/staff_augmentation/index.html";
>

http://www.goldtech2000.com/contact/index.html";>





  


I think my quick edits have preserved your file structure so you should
actually see the images not  just the cell outlines.

drew


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Re: [wdvltalk] Dreamweaver update

2005-04-05 Thread Portman
Thanks Jan.  I will check it out.
Riva
jdmajor wrote:
Riva
Checking quickly, I have some help (hopefully), Check out the 
javascript = fw_menu.js that script sets up the page menu. There is 
the code that plays the flash file: goldtech.swf All of the other 
pages for the menu links are stored in their respective files, About 
Boldtech (index.html), Network/Management Services (index.html), etc.

hth
Jan

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Re: [wdvltalk] Dreamweaver update

2005-04-05 Thread Portman
Hi Drew,
The widths have been changed in the code.  That is what is so 
frustrating.  If you right click on the home page you can see the code 
has been altered to allow the different widths of the new tabs.  The 
code is:


   http://www.goldtech2000.com/goldtech/index.html"; 
onMouseOut="MM_nbGroup('out');FW_startTimeout();"  
onMouseOver="window.FW_showMenu(window.fw_menu_0,10,120);MM_nbGroup('over','btn_ag','../btn_ag_f2.gif','../btn_ag_f4.gif',1)"  
onClick="MM_nbGroup('down','navbar1','btn_ag','../btn_ag_f3.gif',1)" 
>

   http://www.goldtech2000.com/network/index.html"; 
onMouseOut="MM_nbGroup('out');FW_startTimeout();"  
onMouseOver="window.FW_showMenu(window.fw_menu_1,130,120);MM_nbGroup('over','btn_nt','../btn_nt_f2.gif','../btn_nt_f4.gif',1)"  
onClick="MM_nbGroup('down','navbar1','btn_nt','../btn_nt_f3.gif',1)" 
>

   http://www.goldtech2000.com/structured_cabling/index.html"; 
onMouseOut="MM_nbGroup('out');FW_startTimeout();"  
onMouseOver="window.FW_showMenu(window.fw_menu_2,250,120);MM_nbGroup('over','btn_sc','../btn_sc_f2.gif','../btn_sc_f4.gif',1)"  
onClick="MM_nbGroup('down','navbar1','btn_sc','../btn_sc_f3.gif',1)" 
>

   http://www.goldtech2000.com/telecom/index.html"; 
onMouseOut="MM_nbGroup('out');"  
onMouseOver="MM_nbGroup('over','btn_tt','../btn_tt_f2.gif','../btn_tt_f4.gif',1)"  
onClick="MM_nbGroup('down','navbar1','btn_tt','../btn_tt_f3.gif',1)" 
>

   http://www.goldtech2000.com/staff_augmentation/index.html"; 
onMouseOut="MM_nbGroup('out');"  
onMouseOver="MM_nbGroup('over','btn_sa','../btn_sa_f2.gif','../btn_sa_f4.gif',1)"  
onClick="MM_nbGroup('down','navbar1','btn_sa','../btn_sa_f3.gif',1)" 
>

   http://www.goldtech2000.com/contact/index.html"; 
onMouseOut="MM_nbGroup('out');"  
onMouseOver="MM_nbGroup('over','btn_cu','../btn_cu_f2.gif','../btn_cu_f4.gif',1)"  
onClick="MM_nbGroup('down','navbar1','btn_cu','../btn_cu_f3.gif',1)" 
>

   
   
   
 
As you can see in red, the widths have been changed and the spacer.gif 
has been put at the end of the tabs instead of at the beginning.  Why is 
this not showing up??

Riva
Trusz, Andrew wrote:
The "contact us" is squished. To fix it you have to widen it back to 120 and
add the index_r2_c8.gif before the "About" tab. Your spacer widths and the
widths of the tabs are out of whack. To see what I mean, comment out the
main image, expand the spacer height to "10" and put a border around the
table. You'll see that the cell widths do not match. I adjusted the images
widths to match the spacers and that fixed it. You will have to adjust the
main image width since the tabs now extend beyond it. 

It may be possible to adjust the spacers to match the tabs. Didn't try that.
But you do have to widen the "contact us" to 120 in either case so you can
see the text clearly. 

drew

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RE: [wdvltalk] Dreamweaver update

2005-04-05 Thread Trusz, Andrew
 

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Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:46 AM
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Subject: Re: [wdvltalk] Dreamweaver update

One option I do have is to write to the original designer - at the risk of
looking like I don't know what I am doing . . .

??


==
Got it! It's cell widths. 

The "contact us" is squished. To fix it you have to widen it back to 120 and
add the index_r2_c8.gif before the "About" tab. Your spacer widths and the
widths of the tabs are out of whack. To see what I mean, comment out the
main image, expand the spacer height to "10" and put a border around the
table. You'll see that the cell widths do not match. I adjusted the images
widths to match the spacers and that fixed it. You will have to adjust the
main image width since the tabs now extend beyond it. 

It may be possible to adjust the spacers to match the tabs. Didn't try that.
But you do have to widen the "contact us" to 120 in either case so you can
see the text clearly. 

drew

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Re: [wdvltalk] Dreamweaver update

2005-04-05 Thread jdmajor
Riva
Checking quickly, I have some help (hopefully), Check out the javascript 
= fw_menu.js that script sets up the page menu. There is the code that 
plays the flash file: goldtech.swf All of the other pages for the menu 
links are stored in their respective files, About Boldtech (index.html), 
Network/Management Services (index.html), etc.

hth
Jan
Portman wrote:
Hi Mark,
Yes, I can access the website and all the files, etc. but can't figure 
out which file opens the website. I tried all the versions of index.htm, 
index.html, etc. in the main directory but none work. When I go to the 
site in a browser and view the source, I see all the changes I made to 
the code . . . but the changes don't appear on the page. I would imagine 
that if the website opened to a page in a different directory it would 
show in the URL (i.e. www.goldtech2000.com/directory/index.html) I am 
pulling my hair out over this and the guy wants to know why the tabs on 
the site are still messed up.

Any help would be much appreciated.
Riva

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Re: [wdvltalk] Dreamweaver update

2005-04-05 Thread Portman
One option I do have is to write to the original designer - at the risk 
of looking like I don't know what I am doing . . .

??

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Re: [wdvltalk] Dreamweaver update

2005-04-05 Thread Portman
I have changed both and still see no difference.  I tried the rename but 
with no luck either.  The only thing I can figure is that the page opens 
to something and redirects right away to what we see as the home page . 
. .  just a wild guess.

Aarrgghhh!!
Riva
Trusz, Andrew wrote:
I think your problem is that there is both an index.htm and an index.html.
It looks to me like the index.html is default. In part this is a visual
impression and in part it follows logically from each of the tabs having an
index.html page associated with it. If you've made your changes to
index.htm, they won't show on index.html. Change the extension and it should
work fine. Of course you might want to save the original index.html as
something else -- just in case.
drew

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RE: [wdvltalk] Dreamweaver update

2005-04-05 Thread Trusz, Andrew
 

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From: Portman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:11 AM
To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com
Subject: Re: [wdvltalk] Dreamweaver update

Hi Drew,

I changed that page and the index.htm page.  When I right click on the page
I can view the new code I put in but the changes don't show up.  If you look
at the menu part of it (where the old designer did the rollover
menus) I changed the size of the second and last tabs to 160 and 90 resp.
(widths.)  I have no idea why the display won't follow this.

The mmloadMenus are fine.  I am simply talking about the "About Goldtech",
"Contact Us" etc tabs.

Riva
P.S. If you look at one of the other pages on the site you will see the
correct spacing of the tabs.
=

I think your problem is that there is both an index.htm and an index.html.
It looks to me like the index.html is default. In part this is a visual
impression and in part it follows logically from each of the tabs having an
index.html page associated with it. If you've made your changes to
index.htm, they won't show on index.html. Change the extension and it should
work fine. Of course you might want to save the original index.html as
something else -- just in case.

drew

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RE: [wdvltalk] Dreamweaver update

2005-04-05 Thread Trusz, Andrew
 

-Original Message-
From: Portman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:11 AM
To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com
Subject: Re: [wdvltalk] Dreamweaver update

Hi Drew,

I changed that page and the index.htm page.  When I right click on the page
I can view the new code I put in but the changes don't show up.  If you look
at the menu part of it (where the old designer did the rollover
menus) I changed the size of the second and last tabs to 160 and 90 resp.
(widths.)  I have no idea why the display won't follow this.

The mmloadMenus are fine.  I am simply talking about the "About Goldtech",
"Contact Us" etc tabs.

Riva
P.S. If you look at one of the other pages on the site you will see the
correct spacing of the tabs.

Trusz, Andrew wrote:

>What changes have you made Riva? Which page?
>
>The home page is index.html. Go to another page and back button and 
>you'll see the index.html in the url.
>
>The menus are set in the mmloadMenus function. Are you changing that? 
>On which page and to what?
>
>drew
>


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Re: [wdvltalk] Dreamweaver update

2005-04-05 Thread Portman
Hi Drew,
I changed that page and the index.htm page.  When I right click on the 
page I can view the new code I put in but the changes don't show up.  If 
you look at the menu part of it (where the old designer did the rollover 
menus) I changed the size of the second and last tabs to 160 and 90 
resp. (widths.)  I have no idea why the display won't follow this.

The mmloadMenus are fine.  I am simply talking about the "About 
Goldtech", "Contact Us" etc tabs.

Riva
P.S. If you look at one of the other pages on the site you will see the 
correct spacing of the tabs.

Trusz, Andrew wrote:
What changes have you made Riva? Which page?
The home page is index.html. Go to another page and back button and you'll
see the index.html in the url. 

The menus are set in the mmloadMenus function. Are you changing that? On
which page and to what?
drew

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RE: [wdvltalk] Dreamweaver update

2005-04-05 Thread Trusz, Andrew
 

-Original Message-
From: Portman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 1:52 AM
To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com
Subject: Re: [wdvltalk] Dreamweaver update

Hi Mark,

Yes, I can access the website and all the files, etc. but can't figure out
which file opens the website. I tried all the versions of index.htm,
index.html, etc. in the main directory but none work. When I go to the site
in a browser and view the source, I see all the changes I made to the code .
. . but the changes don't appear on the page. I would imagine that if the
website opened to a page in a different directory it would show in the URL
(i.e. www.goldtech2000.com/directory/index.html) I am pulling my hair out
over this and the guy wants to know why the tabs on the site are still
messed up.

Any help would be much appreciated.

Riva

==

What changes have you made Riva? Which page?

The home page is index.html. Go to another page and back button and you'll
see the index.html in the url. 

The menus are set in the mmloadMenus function. Are you changing that? On
which page and to what?

drew

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Re: [wdvltalk] Dreamweaver update

2005-04-04 Thread Portman
Thanks.  I will check out the link.  The Ctrl-F5 does not change anything.
:-)
Riva
Mark Groen wrote:
Sounds like your ISP is caching pages for you, here's the low down:
http://www.sitepoint.com/article/cache-or-check/3
Also, I'm sure you have told your client, but have him do a "hard
refresh" (Windows) Ctrl F5 and see if that helps maybe.
cheers,
  Mark

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Re: [wdvltalk] Dreamweaver update

2005-04-04 Thread Mark Groen
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To: 
Sent: April 4, 2005 10:51 PM
Subject: Re: [wdvltalk] Dreamweaver update


> the code . . . but the changes don't appear on the page. I would
imagine
> that if the website opened to a page in a different directory it
would
> show in the URL (i.e. www.goldtech2000.com/directory/index.html) I
am
> pulling my hair out over this and the guy wants to know why the
tabs on
> the site are still messed up.

Sounds like your ISP is caching pages for you, here's the low down:

http://www.sitepoint.com/article/cache-or-check/3

Also, I'm sure you have told your client, but have him do a "hard
refresh" (Windows) Ctrl F5 and see if that helps maybe.

cheers,

   Mark



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Re: [wdvltalk] Dreamweaver update

2005-04-04 Thread Portman
Hi Mark,
Yes, I can access the website and all the files, etc. but can't figure 
out which file opens the website. I tried all the versions of index.htm, 
index.html, etc. in the main directory but none work. When I go to the 
site in a browser and view the source, I see all the changes I made to 
the code . . . but the changes don't appear on the page. I would imagine 
that if the website opened to a page in a different directory it would 
show in the URL (i.e. www.goldtech2000.com/directory/index.html) I am 
pulling my hair out over this and the guy wants to know why the tabs on 
the site are still messed up.

Any help would be much appreciated.
Riva
Mark Groen wrote:
O.K.  I got Dreamweaver to work but still can't update the home
   

page . . .
What stage are you at Riva? Can like you can see the directories on
the live web server now?
cheers,
  Mark

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Re: [wdvltalk] Dreamweaver update

2005-04-04 Thread Mark Groen
> O.K.  I got Dreamweaver to work but still can't update the home
page . . .

What stage are you at Riva? Can like you can see the directories on
the live web server now?

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   Mark




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