RE: [wdvltalk] Dreamweaver update
-Original Message- From: Portman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 4:15 PM To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com Subject: Re: [wdvltalk] Dreamweaver update Hi Drew, The widths have been changed in the code. That is what is so frustrating. If you right click on the home page you can see the code has been altered to allow the different widths of the new tabs. The code is: === That is your problem -- you've changed the widths of the columns. You can combine columns but you can't simply alter the widths. Here's what I mean. The first row is your spacer gif -- this sets the widths for all the columns in the table. The second is the widths for your tabs. You'll see that they don't match. In the second code sample. I've changed them to match. I don't have the images included in the examples but if you paste these samples into a demo page which can access the images, you'll see what I mean. Your current code with the spacer given greater height so you can see it. I've stripped out the mouse over for brevity and because the code keep throwing errors. Look at the cell alignment between the two rows. http://www.goldtech2000.com/goldtech/index.html";> http://www.goldtech2000.com/network/index.html";> http://www.goldtech2000.com/structured_cabling/index.html";> http://www.goldtech2000.com/telecom/index.html";> http://www.goldtech2000.com/staff_augmentation/index.html";> http://www.goldtech2000.com/contact/index.html";> Now look at the revised code. The cell widths are consistent between rows. I found the visual problems cleared completely doing it this way. http://www.goldtech2000.com/goldtech/index.html"; > http://www.goldtech2000.com/network/index.html"; > http://www.goldtech2000.com/structured_cabling/index.html"; > http://www.goldtech2000.com/telecom/index.html"; > http://www.goldtech2000.com/staff_augmentation/index.html"; > http://www.goldtech2000.com/contact/index.html";> I think my quick edits have preserved your file structure so you should actually see the images not just the cell outlines. drew The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
Re: [wdvltalk] Dreamweaver update
Thanks Jan. I will check it out. Riva jdmajor wrote: Riva Checking quickly, I have some help (hopefully), Check out the javascript = fw_menu.js that script sets up the page menu. There is the code that plays the flash file: goldtech.swf All of the other pages for the menu links are stored in their respective files, About Boldtech (index.html), Network/Management Services (index.html), etc. hth Jan The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
Re: [wdvltalk] Dreamweaver update
Hi Drew, The widths have been changed in the code. That is what is so frustrating. If you right click on the home page you can see the code has been altered to allow the different widths of the new tabs. The code is: http://www.goldtech2000.com/goldtech/index.html"; onMouseOut="MM_nbGroup('out');FW_startTimeout();" onMouseOver="window.FW_showMenu(window.fw_menu_0,10,120);MM_nbGroup('over','btn_ag','../btn_ag_f2.gif','../btn_ag_f4.gif',1)" onClick="MM_nbGroup('down','navbar1','btn_ag','../btn_ag_f3.gif',1)" > http://www.goldtech2000.com/network/index.html"; onMouseOut="MM_nbGroup('out');FW_startTimeout();" onMouseOver="window.FW_showMenu(window.fw_menu_1,130,120);MM_nbGroup('over','btn_nt','../btn_nt_f2.gif','../btn_nt_f4.gif',1)" onClick="MM_nbGroup('down','navbar1','btn_nt','../btn_nt_f3.gif',1)" > http://www.goldtech2000.com/structured_cabling/index.html"; onMouseOut="MM_nbGroup('out');FW_startTimeout();" onMouseOver="window.FW_showMenu(window.fw_menu_2,250,120);MM_nbGroup('over','btn_sc','../btn_sc_f2.gif','../btn_sc_f4.gif',1)" onClick="MM_nbGroup('down','navbar1','btn_sc','../btn_sc_f3.gif',1)" > http://www.goldtech2000.com/telecom/index.html"; onMouseOut="MM_nbGroup('out');" onMouseOver="MM_nbGroup('over','btn_tt','../btn_tt_f2.gif','../btn_tt_f4.gif',1)" onClick="MM_nbGroup('down','navbar1','btn_tt','../btn_tt_f3.gif',1)" > http://www.goldtech2000.com/staff_augmentation/index.html"; onMouseOut="MM_nbGroup('out');" onMouseOver="MM_nbGroup('over','btn_sa','../btn_sa_f2.gif','../btn_sa_f4.gif',1)" onClick="MM_nbGroup('down','navbar1','btn_sa','../btn_sa_f3.gif',1)" > http://www.goldtech2000.com/contact/index.html"; onMouseOut="MM_nbGroup('out');" onMouseOver="MM_nbGroup('over','btn_cu','../btn_cu_f2.gif','../btn_cu_f4.gif',1)" onClick="MM_nbGroup('down','navbar1','btn_cu','../btn_cu_f3.gif',1)" > As you can see in red, the widths have been changed and the spacer.gif has been put at the end of the tabs instead of at the beginning. Why is this not showing up?? Riva Trusz, Andrew wrote: The "contact us" is squished. To fix it you have to widen it back to 120 and add the index_r2_c8.gif before the "About" tab. Your spacer widths and the widths of the tabs are out of whack. To see what I mean, comment out the main image, expand the spacer height to "10" and put a border around the table. You'll see that the cell widths do not match. I adjusted the images widths to match the spacers and that fixed it. You will have to adjust the main image width since the tabs now extend beyond it. It may be possible to adjust the spacers to match the tabs. Didn't try that. But you do have to widen the "contact us" to 120 in either case so you can see the text clearly. drew The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
RE: [wdvltalk] Dreamweaver update
-Original Message- From: Portman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:46 AM To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com Subject: Re: [wdvltalk] Dreamweaver update One option I do have is to write to the original designer - at the risk of looking like I don't know what I am doing . . . ?? == Got it! It's cell widths. The "contact us" is squished. To fix it you have to widen it back to 120 and add the index_r2_c8.gif before the "About" tab. Your spacer widths and the widths of the tabs are out of whack. To see what I mean, comment out the main image, expand the spacer height to "10" and put a border around the table. You'll see that the cell widths do not match. I adjusted the images widths to match the spacers and that fixed it. You will have to adjust the main image width since the tabs now extend beyond it. It may be possible to adjust the spacers to match the tabs. Didn't try that. But you do have to widen the "contact us" to 120 in either case so you can see the text clearly. drew The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
Re: [wdvltalk] Dreamweaver update
Riva Checking quickly, I have some help (hopefully), Check out the javascript = fw_menu.js that script sets up the page menu. There is the code that plays the flash file: goldtech.swf All of the other pages for the menu links are stored in their respective files, About Boldtech (index.html), Network/Management Services (index.html), etc. hth Jan Portman wrote: Hi Mark, Yes, I can access the website and all the files, etc. but can't figure out which file opens the website. I tried all the versions of index.htm, index.html, etc. in the main directory but none work. When I go to the site in a browser and view the source, I see all the changes I made to the code . . . but the changes don't appear on the page. I would imagine that if the website opened to a page in a different directory it would show in the URL (i.e. www.goldtech2000.com/directory/index.html) I am pulling my hair out over this and the guy wants to know why the tabs on the site are still messed up. Any help would be much appreciated. Riva The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
Re: [wdvltalk] Dreamweaver update
One option I do have is to write to the original designer - at the risk of looking like I don't know what I am doing . . . ?? The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
Re: [wdvltalk] Dreamweaver update
I have changed both and still see no difference. I tried the rename but with no luck either. The only thing I can figure is that the page opens to something and redirects right away to what we see as the home page . . . just a wild guess. Aarrgghhh!! Riva Trusz, Andrew wrote: I think your problem is that there is both an index.htm and an index.html. It looks to me like the index.html is default. In part this is a visual impression and in part it follows logically from each of the tabs having an index.html page associated with it. If you've made your changes to index.htm, they won't show on index.html. Change the extension and it should work fine. Of course you might want to save the original index.html as something else -- just in case. drew The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
RE: [wdvltalk] Dreamweaver update
-Original Message- From: Portman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:11 AM To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com Subject: Re: [wdvltalk] Dreamweaver update Hi Drew, I changed that page and the index.htm page. When I right click on the page I can view the new code I put in but the changes don't show up. If you look at the menu part of it (where the old designer did the rollover menus) I changed the size of the second and last tabs to 160 and 90 resp. (widths.) I have no idea why the display won't follow this. The mmloadMenus are fine. I am simply talking about the "About Goldtech", "Contact Us" etc tabs. Riva P.S. If you look at one of the other pages on the site you will see the correct spacing of the tabs. = I think your problem is that there is both an index.htm and an index.html. It looks to me like the index.html is default. In part this is a visual impression and in part it follows logically from each of the tabs having an index.html page associated with it. If you've made your changes to index.htm, they won't show on index.html. Change the extension and it should work fine. Of course you might want to save the original index.html as something else -- just in case. drew The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
RE: [wdvltalk] Dreamweaver update
-Original Message- From: Portman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:11 AM To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com Subject: Re: [wdvltalk] Dreamweaver update Hi Drew, I changed that page and the index.htm page. When I right click on the page I can view the new code I put in but the changes don't show up. If you look at the menu part of it (where the old designer did the rollover menus) I changed the size of the second and last tabs to 160 and 90 resp. (widths.) I have no idea why the display won't follow this. The mmloadMenus are fine. I am simply talking about the "About Goldtech", "Contact Us" etc tabs. Riva P.S. If you look at one of the other pages on the site you will see the correct spacing of the tabs. Trusz, Andrew wrote: >What changes have you made Riva? Which page? > >The home page is index.html. Go to another page and back button and >you'll see the index.html in the url. > >The menus are set in the mmloadMenus function. Are you changing that? >On which page and to what? > >drew > * The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM * To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with. The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
Re: [wdvltalk] Dreamweaver update
Hi Drew, I changed that page and the index.htm page. When I right click on the page I can view the new code I put in but the changes don't show up. If you look at the menu part of it (where the old designer did the rollover menus) I changed the size of the second and last tabs to 160 and 90 resp. (widths.) I have no idea why the display won't follow this. The mmloadMenus are fine. I am simply talking about the "About Goldtech", "Contact Us" etc tabs. Riva P.S. If you look at one of the other pages on the site you will see the correct spacing of the tabs. Trusz, Andrew wrote: What changes have you made Riva? Which page? The home page is index.html. Go to another page and back button and you'll see the index.html in the url. The menus are set in the mmloadMenus function. Are you changing that? On which page and to what? drew The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
RE: [wdvltalk] Dreamweaver update
-Original Message- From: Portman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 1:52 AM To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com Subject: Re: [wdvltalk] Dreamweaver update Hi Mark, Yes, I can access the website and all the files, etc. but can't figure out which file opens the website. I tried all the versions of index.htm, index.html, etc. in the main directory but none work. When I go to the site in a browser and view the source, I see all the changes I made to the code . . . but the changes don't appear on the page. I would imagine that if the website opened to a page in a different directory it would show in the URL (i.e. www.goldtech2000.com/directory/index.html) I am pulling my hair out over this and the guy wants to know why the tabs on the site are still messed up. Any help would be much appreciated. Riva == What changes have you made Riva? Which page? The home page is index.html. Go to another page and back button and you'll see the index.html in the url. The menus are set in the mmloadMenus function. Are you changing that? On which page and to what? drew The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
Re: [wdvltalk] Dreamweaver update
Thanks. I will check out the link. The Ctrl-F5 does not change anything. :-) Riva Mark Groen wrote: Sounds like your ISP is caching pages for you, here's the low down: http://www.sitepoint.com/article/cache-or-check/3 Also, I'm sure you have told your client, but have him do a "hard refresh" (Windows) Ctrl F5 and see if that helps maybe. cheers, Mark • The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM • To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
Re: [wdvltalk] Dreamweaver update
- Original Message - From: "Portman" <> To: Sent: April 4, 2005 10:51 PM Subject: Re: [wdvltalk] Dreamweaver update > the code . . . but the changes don't appear on the page. I would imagine > that if the website opened to a page in a different directory it would > show in the URL (i.e. www.goldtech2000.com/directory/index.html) I am > pulling my hair out over this and the guy wants to know why the tabs on > the site are still messed up. Sounds like your ISP is caching pages for you, here's the low down: http://www.sitepoint.com/article/cache-or-check/3 Also, I'm sure you have told your client, but have him do a "hard refresh" (Windows) Ctrl F5 and see if that helps maybe. cheers, Mark • The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM • To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
Re: [wdvltalk] Dreamweaver update
Hi Mark, Yes, I can access the website and all the files, etc. but can't figure out which file opens the website. I tried all the versions of index.htm, index.html, etc. in the main directory but none work. When I go to the site in a browser and view the source, I see all the changes I made to the code . . . but the changes don't appear on the page. I would imagine that if the website opened to a page in a different directory it would show in the URL (i.e. www.goldtech2000.com/directory/index.html) I am pulling my hair out over this and the guy wants to know why the tabs on the site are still messed up. Any help would be much appreciated. Riva Mark Groen wrote: O.K. I got Dreamweaver to work but still can't update the home page . . . What stage are you at Riva? Can like you can see the directories on the live web server now? cheers, Mark • The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM • To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with. • The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM • To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
Re: [wdvltalk] Dreamweaver update
> O.K. I got Dreamweaver to work but still can't update the home page . . . What stage are you at Riva? Can like you can see the directories on the live web server now? cheers, Mark The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.