[Web-SIG] Web Framework

2009-10-05 Thread Omar Munk
Hello

I'm Pynthon and I'm 14 years old. I'm coming from Holland so my English
isn't very good. I'm looking for a good Python webframework. I liked Web2Py
but it always can be better. I don't need a full admin app included. I just
want to code it in my text editor just like PHP. Do you guys know a
framework with:


   - A good documentation.
   - Not to overkill like Django
   - Easy and simple
   - Just something like PHP but without the dirty style.
   - I like Karrigell but it looks like it's dead do you know a clone of it?
   - Not need a VPS to host it, just a server that has Python.

I know it's almost impposbile but I seached everywhere! And creating your
own is that hard?

Thanks,
Pynthon
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Re: [Web-SIG] Web Framework

2009-10-05 Thread Henry Precheur
On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 09:30:26AM -0700, Omar Munk wrote:
- A good documentation.
- Not to overkill like Django
- Easy and simple
- Just something like PHP but without the dirty style.
- I like Karrigell but it looks like it's dead do you know a clone of it?
- Not need a VPS to host it, just a server that has Python.

I would still recommend Django. I think it's the best web-framework if
you are beginning. It's not like PHP, but I don't know of anything like
PHP in Python.

 And creating your own is that hard?

Yes, it's hard, especially if you are new to web development.

Cheers,

-- 
  Henry Pr?cheur
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Re: [Web-SIG] Web Framework

2009-10-05 Thread Massimo Di Pierro

Have you looked into T3?

http://www.vimeo.com/2462041
http://web2py.appspot.com/t3/default/wiki/main

If you know web2py it is based on it and uses the same syntax.
This is an old app, to be considered experimental and we working on a  
new/improved version for it.


https://launchpad.net/t4

Still it may be close to what you are looking for.

Massimo




On May 31, 2009, at 11:30 AM, Omar Munk wrote:


Hello

I'm Pynthon and I'm 14 years old. I'm coming from Holland so my  
English isn't very good. I'm looking for a good Python webframework.  
I liked Web2Py but it always can be better. I don't need a full  
admin app included. I just want to code it in my text editor just  
like PHP. Do you guys know a framework with:


A good documentation.
Not to overkill like Django
Easy and simple
Just something like PHP but without the dirty style.
I like Karrigell but it looks like it's dead do you know a clone of  
it?

Not need a VPS to host it, just a server that has Python.
I know it's almost impposbile but I seached everywhere! And creating  
your own is that hard?


Thanks,
Pynthon

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Re: [Web-SIG] Web Framework

2009-10-05 Thread Jim Fulton
On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Omar Munk omar.webs...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello

 I'm Pynthon and I'm 14 years old. I'm coming from Holland so my English
 isn't very good. I'm looking for a good Python webframework. I liked Web2Py
 but it always can be better. I don't need a full admin app included. I just
 want to code it in my text editor just like PHP. Do you guys know a
 framework with:

 A good documentation.
 Not to overkill like Django
 Easy and simple
 Just something like PHP but without the dirty style.
 I like Karrigell but it looks like it's dead do you know a clone of it?
 Not need a VPS to host it, just a server that has Python.

 I know it's almost impposbile but I seached everywhere! And creating your
 own is that hard?

Bobo's main goal is simplicity:

  http://bobo.digicool.com/

Jim

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Re: [Web-SIG] Web Framework

2009-10-05 Thread Massimo Di Pierro

Hey, this is more complex than web2py:

@bobo.query('/')
def hello():
return Hello world!

In web2py you do not need the first line. ;-)

Massimo

On Oct 5, 2009, at 11:35 AM, Jim Fulton wrote:

On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Omar Munk omar.webs...@gmail.com  
wrote:

Hello

I'm Pynthon and I'm 14 years old. I'm coming from Holland so my  
English
isn't very good. I'm looking for a good Python webframework. I  
liked Web2Py
but it always can be better. I don't need a full admin app  
included. I just

want to code it in my text editor just like PHP. Do you guys know a
framework with:

A good documentation.
Not to overkill like Django
Easy and simple
Just something like PHP but without the dirty style.
I like Karrigell but it looks like it's dead do you know a clone of  
it?

Not need a VPS to host it, just a server that has Python.

I know it's almost impposbile but I seached everywhere! And  
creating your

own is that hard?


Bobo's main goal is simplicity:

 http://bobo.digicool.com/

Jim

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Re: [Web-SIG] Web Framework

2009-10-05 Thread Aaron Watters


--- On Sun, 5/31/09, Omar Munk omar.webs...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Omar Munk omar.webs...@gmail.com
 Subject: [Web-SIG] Web Framework
 To: web-sig@python.org
 Date: Sunday, May 31, 2009, 12:30 PM
 Hello
 A good documentation.
 Not to overkill like
 Django
 Easy and simple
 Just something like
 PHP but without the dirty style.
 I like Karrigell
 but it looks like it's dead do you know a clone of
 it?

Hi Omar.  Please have a look at WHIFF.
It has a lot of PHP-like features, but it's better :).

Please let me know what you think of it.
I'd be especially interested if you find
the documentation hard to understand --
please let me know where you got confused or
whatever.  Thanks.

http://aaron.oirt.rutgers.edu/myapp/docs/W.intro

By the way I agree that PHP is ugly and most
Python frameworks are too complicated.  I also
think the only reason PHP is so popular is
because there was never an appropriate Python
based alternative for the kinds of things
people like to do with PHP.  This is the vacuum
I'm trying to fill with WHIFF.

  -- Aaron Watters

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