Re: [web2py] Re: Cookbook - No indentation ??
The problem still exists, here in 2014! It is broader than just MOBI format -- it also makes EPUB book listings (at least Python ones) useless. BUT -- it only affects one publisher I have found so far -- Packt Publishing. Sadly I will be crossing them off my list of suitable purveyors of ebooks because (a) they have known about the problem for years, and (b) they do not care enough to fix it. I'm tempted to request a refund for every Python book I have bought from them -- about 6 or 7 so far. It is not ok to just download the listings as I often read these books on long flights and it's not possible to fire up the computer and get the listing, or even follow along. It really is not a substitute, and I would add demerits to any book author who says its acceptable. -- Joe B. On Saturday, March 17, 2012 11:34:56 AM UTC-7, Jonathan Lundell wrote: On Mar 17, 2012, at 11:22 AM, Marcello wrote: I screwed with nobody. I just pointed a fact. I have many Python eBooks(ePub) and ALL of them have NO formatting or indentation problem. Even Kindle has no indentation problem in all of my Python books. True; I've got plenty of tech books, both ePub and mobi, that handle indentation just fine. Marcello On Saturday, March 17, 2012 3:04:58 PM UTC-3, AngeloC wrote: Kindle and other ebook readers that doesn't support pdf are useless for viewing technical documents because text is reflowable, always. So blanks are removed and text is full aligned. Please don't screw with packtpub, amazon or others, is a common problem with all reflowable mobile formats. I have an ebook reader that supports all mobile formats (BeBook One) and pdf (non digital editions) is the only readable format for tech documents. I read always on my bebook one! Publishers never says that, because they will not sell technical ebooks anymore! -- Resources: - http://web2py.com - http://web2py.com/book (Documentation) - http://github.com/web2py/web2py (Source code) - https://code.google.com/p/web2py/issues/list (Report Issues) --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups web2py-users group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [web2py] Re: Cookbook - No indentation ??
Has a solution been found to get this in an ebook format with the correct indentation? On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Jonathan Lundell jlund...@pobox.comwrote: On Mar 17, 2012, at 11:22 AM, Marcello wrote: I screwed with nobody. I just pointed a fact. I have many Python eBooks(ePub) and ALL of them have NO formatting or indentation problem. Even Kindle has no indentation problem in all of my Python books. True; I've got plenty of tech books, both ePub and mobi, that handle indentation just fine. Marcello On Saturday, March 17, 2012 3:04:58 PM UTC-3, AngeloC wrote: Kindle and other ebook readers that doesn't support pdf are useless for viewing technical documents because text is reflowable, always. So blanks are removed and text is full aligned. Please don't screw with packtpub, amazon or others, is a common problem with all reflowable mobile formats. I have an ebook reader that supports all mobile formats (BeBook One) and pdf (non digital editions) is the only readable format for tech documents. I read always on my bebook one! Publishers never says that, because they will not sell technical ebooks anymore!
[web2py] Re: Cookbook - No indentation ??
Hello, I contacted Packt about this problem. They admitted a problem with Kindle format (MOBI). They were very nice and gave me access to ePub and PDF format. But I noticed that ePub has the same formatting problem as MOBI. The only format that is OK is PDF So.. if you want this book, know that the only one that is OK is PDF Thanks, Marcello On Thursday, March 15, 2012 8:11:34 PM UTC-3, Monte Milanuk wrote: On Thu, 15 Mar 2012 12:32:14 -0700, Marcello wrote: I bought mine from Amazon... don't know if I have access to that But my interest in the moment is not run code. I want to read the book And read the code without indentation is almost impossible... If my book is correct, it is almost useless.
Re: [web2py] Re: Cookbook - No indentation ??
The PDF is not perfect, but is OK. Somethings are indented that shouldn't be so you really have to understand the code to be able to figure it out. The best option is to download the source code to learn from. On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 7:24 AM, Marcello parro...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I contacted Packt about this problem. They admitted a problem with Kindle format (MOBI). They were very nice and gave me access to ePub and PDF format. But I noticed that ePub has the same formatting problem as MOBI. The only format that is OK is PDF So.. if you want this book, know that the only one that is OK is PDF Thanks, Marcello On Thursday, March 15, 2012 8:11:34 PM UTC-3, Monte Milanuk wrote: On Thu, 15 Mar 2012 12:32:14 -0700, Marcello wrote: I bought mine from Amazon... don't know if I have access to that But my interest in the moment is not run code. I want to read the book And read the code without indentation is almost impossible... If my book is correct, it is almost useless. -- -- Regards, Bruce Wade http://ca.linkedin.com/in/brucelwade http://www.wadecybertech.com http://www.warplydesigned.com http://www.fitnessfriendsfinder.com
Re: [web2py] Re: Cookbook - No indentation ??
Kindle and other ebook readers that doesn't support pdf are useless for viewing technical documents because text is reflowable, always. So blanks are removed and text is full aligned. Please don't screw with packtpub, amazon or others, is a common problem with all reflowable mobile formats. I have an ebook reader that supports all mobile formats (BeBook One) and pdf (non digital editions) is the only readable format for tech documents. I read always on my bebook one! Publishers never says that, because they will not sell technical ebooks anymore! 2012/3/17 Bruce Wade bruce.w...@gmail.com The PDF is not perfect, but is OK. Somethings are indented that shouldn't be so you really have to understand the code to be able to figure it out. The best option is to download the source code to learn from. On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 7:24 AM, Marcello parro...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I contacted Packt about this problem. They admitted a problem with Kindle format (MOBI). They were very nice and gave me access to ePub and PDF format. But I noticed that ePub has the same formatting problem as MOBI. The only format that is OK is PDF So.. if you want this book, know that the only one that is OK is PDF Thanks, Marcello On Thursday, March 15, 2012 8:11:34 PM UTC-3, Monte Milanuk wrote: On Thu, 15 Mar 2012 12:32:14 -0700, Marcello wrote: I bought mine from Amazon... don't know if I have access to that But my interest in the moment is not run code. I want to read the book And read the code without indentation is almost impossible... If my book is correct, it is almost useless. -- -- Regards, Bruce Wade http://ca.linkedin.com/in/brucelwade http://www.wadecybertech.com http://www.warplydesigned.com http://www.fitnessfriendsfinder.com -- Profile: http://it.linkedin.com/in/compagnucciangelo
Re: [web2py] Re: Cookbook - No indentation ??
I screwed with nobody. I just pointed a fact. I have many Python eBooks(ePub) and ALL of them have NO formatting or indentation problem. Even Kindle has no indentation problem in all of my Python books. Marcello On Saturday, March 17, 2012 3:04:58 PM UTC-3, AngeloC wrote: Kindle and other ebook readers that doesn't support pdf are useless for viewing technical documents because text is reflowable, always. So blanks are removed and text is full aligned. Please don't screw with packtpub, amazon or others, is a common problem with all reflowable mobile formats. I have an ebook reader that supports all mobile formats (BeBook One) and pdf (non digital editions) is the only readable format for tech documents. I read always on my bebook one! Publishers never says that, because they will not sell technical ebooks anymore!
Re: [web2py] Re: Cookbook - No indentation ??
On Mar 17, 2012, at 11:22 AM, Marcello wrote: I screwed with nobody. I just pointed a fact. I have many Python eBooks(ePub) and ALL of them have NO formatting or indentation problem. Even Kindle has no indentation problem in all of my Python books. True; I've got plenty of tech books, both ePub and mobi, that handle indentation just fine. Marcello On Saturday, March 17, 2012 3:04:58 PM UTC-3, AngeloC wrote: Kindle and other ebook readers that doesn't support pdf are useless for viewing technical documents because text is reflowable, always. So blanks are removed and text is full aligned. Please don't screw with packtpub, amazon or others, is a common problem with all reflowable mobile formats. I have an ebook reader that supports all mobile formats (BeBook One) and pdf (non digital editions) is the only readable format for tech documents. I read always on my bebook one! Publishers never says that, because they will not sell technical ebooks anymore!
[web2py] Re: Cookbook - No indentation ??
For customers, the example source code with standard indentation should be available for download with the book support files: http://www.packtpub.com/support On 15 mar, 15:04, Marcello parro...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I just bought my web2py Application Development Cookbook from Amazon (Kindle version)... I noticed that all python code is not indented Is it ? Ebook or PDF has the same problem ?? Thanks, Marcello
[web2py] Re: Cookbook - No indentation ??
I bought mine from Amazon... don't know if I have access to that But my interest in the moment is not run code. I want to read the book And read the code without indentation is almost impossible... If my book is correct, it is almost useless. On Thursday, March 15, 2012 4:26:24 PM UTC-3, Alan Etkin wrote: For customers, the example source code with standard indentation should be available for download with the book support files: http://www.packtpub.com/support
[web2py] Re: Cookbook - No indentation ??
On Thu, 15 Mar 2012 12:32:14 -0700, Marcello wrote: I bought mine from Amazon... don't know if I have access to that But my interest in the moment is not run code. I want to read the book And read the code without indentation is almost impossible... If my book is correct, it is almost useless. Packt Publishing has an on-going issue in this regard... I'd purchased a couple books from them directly - fairly readable in PDF format, but pretty much useless in Kindle format. I noticed a number of folks over on Amazon who had purchased thru them, where you only get the .mobi format - and are effectively screwed - had the same problem. Having purchased mine directly thru Packt, I could at least read it in PDF format. If you look at any of their books for Python related subjects in Kindle/.mobi format, they are all screwed up. I hounded the CS people about it - took them a long dang time to even respond. They finally offered two other ebooks of my choice as compensation. One of the ones I chose was this web2py cookbook - even with the release date slipping a couple months, and knowing full well it would probably be unusable on a Kindle. Oh, and if you look... I don't think I've ever seen any of their books showing *any* errata listed... To be honest, I was rather surprised to see the Web2Py project working with these folks... I'd hoped maybe a change had occurred and things would be better, but opening the pdf and finding two typos in the first couple pages of the intro cured that idea. Monte
