[web2py] Re: Massimo for President!
Massimo is already our President. Guido would make a good Prime Minister -- Resources: - http://web2py.com - http://web2py.com/book (Documentation) - http://github.com/web2py/web2py (Source code) - https://code.google.com/p/web2py/issues/list (Report Issues) --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "web2py-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[web2py] Re: Massimo for President!
lol. I will vote for him. On Friday, February 26, 2016 at 9:35:18 AM UTC-5, Massimo Di Pierro wrote: > > They misspelled Guido's last name. I swear I said it correctly. > > On Friday, 26 February 2016 02:27:05 UTC-6, Nico Zanferrari wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> I've found this article this morning: >> http://www.corrierecomunicazioni.it/it-world/39758_coding-cosi-funziona-il-mio-programma-che-mette-il-turbo-a-python.htm >> It's an Italian interview to Massimo - with a bad title but still worth >> reading. >> >> Congratulations! Bravo! >> >> >> -- Resources: - http://web2py.com - http://web2py.com/book (Documentation) - http://github.com/web2py/web2py (Source code) - https://code.google.com/p/web2py/issues/list (Report Issues) --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "web2py-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[web2py] Re: Massimo for President!
They misspelled Guido's last name. I swear I said it correctly. On Friday, 26 February 2016 02:27:05 UTC-6, Nico Zanferrari wrote: > > Hi all, > > I've found this article this morning: > http://www.corrierecomunicazioni.it/it-world/39758_coding-cosi-funziona-il-mio-programma-che-mette-il-turbo-a-python.htm > It's an Italian interview to Massimo - with a bad title but still worth > reading. > > Congratulations! Bravo! > > > -- Resources: - http://web2py.com - http://web2py.com/book (Documentation) - http://github.com/web2py/web2py (Source code) - https://code.google.com/p/web2py/issues/list (Report Issues) --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "web2py-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[web2py] Re: Massimo for President!
thank you for sharing Le vendredi 26 février 2016 09:27:05 UTC+1, Nico Zanferrari a écrit : > > Hi all, > > I've found this article this morning: > http://www.corrierecomunicazioni.it/it-world/39758_coding-cosi-funziona-il-mio-programma-che-mette-il-turbo-a-python.htm > It's an Italian interview to Massimo - with a bad title but still worth > reading. > > Congratulations! Bravo! > > > -- Resources: - http://web2py.com - http://web2py.com/book (Documentation) - http://github.com/web2py/web2py (Source code) - https://code.google.com/p/web2py/issues/list (Report Issues) --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "web2py-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [web2py] Re: Massimo
Hatsoff to Massimo for all continuous help !! On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 9:28 PM, Chris May chrisma...@gmail.com wrote: I second that! We are truly blessed to have so many great, patient and available contributors to the code and the community! Anthony, do you have the book memorized yet? :D
[web2py] Re: Massimo
I second that! We are truly blessed to have so many great, patient and available contributors to the code and the community! Anthony, do you have the book memorized yet? :D
Re: [web2py] Re: Massimo
Programmers don't get the glory they deserve, http://goo.gl/yRJbR. On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 12:34 PM, Vineet vineet.deod...@gmail.com wrote: Oops. Inadvertently, I did not mention about the other contributors in my OP! Anthony's ( of course, the other members') replies have been very useful to me.
[web2py] Re: Massimo
My compliments as well to both Massimo and all contributors. Keep up the good work guys! Thodoris On Dec 7, 9:08 am, chandrakant kumar k.03chan...@gmail.com wrote: Programmers don't get the glory they deserve,http://goo.gl/yRJbR. On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 12:34 PM, Vineet vineet.deod...@gmail.com wrote: Oops. Inadvertently, I did not mention about the other contributors in my OP! Anthony's ( of course, the other members') replies have been very useful to me.
Re: [web2py] Re: Massimo
Yep, Anthony is a great teacher, his responds are very detailed and careful, sometimes I would tell newbies go read the book, but he has patience to respond or to point to a good answer
Re: [web2py] Re: Massimo
Am not sure where Yarko is now-a-days, but he used to provide replies in a manner that not only provided answers you were looking for but made you rethink the problem itself. I have his replies stored. Anthony is active both here and in stackoverflow. I can't even keep up here. And one time, Massimo replied for one of the queries, I don't want to beat django, I want to beat IBM consulting. Man...thats vision. I hope this community not only brings out a fantastic framework but practical business model too. Regards, Joseph
[web2py] Re: Massimo
Big thanks to Anthony, Bruno and other contributors for helping newbies like me understand how web2py works better! On Dec 7, 9:33 am, villas villa...@gmail.com wrote: You are right, this list must be one of the very best, and in addition to Massimo, there are some other great contributors. Amongst the many valuable messages that I read here, I wonder whether I might also single out Anthony's posts too - his answers to everyone's questions are really so helpful and well written. Thanks guys!
[web2py] Re: Massimo
On Dec 6, 10:32 am, Vineet vineet.deod...@gmail.com wrote: This thread is not for asking any question. I was wondering how Massimo manages to find time for reading this entire list answering the queries (sometimes, a detailed reply also, if required). I understand that he is a very busy person himself, and web2py is not directly serving him bread butter. Nothing personal, but I observe that Allan Jardine (of dataTables.net) answers only those questions for which the OP donates him money. Of course, that may also be fair. I think he smarter than me. ;-)
[web2py] Re: Massimo
On Dec 7, 12:32 am, Vineet vineet.deod...@gmail.com wrote: This thread is not for asking any question. I was wondering how Massimo manages to find time for reading this entire list answering the queries (sometimes, a detailed reply also, if required). I understand that he is a very busy person himself, and web2py is not directly serving him bread butter. It is magic like this that drew me to web2py. Web2py of course is an excellent framework. And Massimo's passion is amazing.
[web2py] Re: Massimo
You are right, this list must be one of the very best, and in addition to Massimo, there are some other great contributors. Amongst the many valuable messages that I read here, I wonder whether I might also single out Anthony's posts too - his answers to everyone's questions are really so helpful and well written. Thanks guys!
[web2py] Re: Massimo
You are welcome. And thanks a lot -- I appreciate the compliment. Anthony On Tuesday, December 6, 2011 8:33:03 PM UTC-5, villas wrote: You are right, this list must be one of the very best, and in addition to Massimo, there are some other great contributors. Amongst the many valuable messages that I read here, I wonder whether I might also single out Anthony's posts too - his answers to everyone's questions are really so helpful and well written. Thanks guys!
[web2py] Re: Massimo
Oops. How I did not mention about the other contributors ! Anthony's ( of course, the other members') replies have been very useful to me. Earlier, I had opted for TurboGears. No doubt, although it's a good web framework, but it's too complex lot many dependencies. Web2py stands out clear in terms of simplicity, flexibility, and this amazingly helpful list Thanks to all the supporting members. Vineet On Dec 7, 7:27 am, Anthony abasta...@gmail.com wrote: You are welcome. And thanks a lot -- I appreciate the compliment. Anthony On Tuesday, December 6, 2011 8:33:03 PM UTC-5, villas wrote: You are right, this list must be one of the very best, and in addition to Massimo, there are some other great contributors. Amongst the many valuable messages that I read here, I wonder whether I might also single out Anthony's posts too - his answers to everyone's questions are really so helpful and well written. Thanks guys!
[web2py] Re: Massimo
Oops. Inadvertently, I did not mention about the other contributors in my OP! Anthony's ( of course, the other members') replies have been very useful to me. Earlier, I had opted for TurboGears. No doubt, although it's a good web framework, but it's too complex lot many dependencies. Web2py stands out clear in terms of simplicity, flexibility, and this amazingly helpful list Thanks to all the supporting members. Vineet On Dec 7, 7:27 am, Anthony abasta...@gmail.com wrote: You are welcome. And thanks a lot -- I appreciate the compliment. Anthony On Tuesday, December 6, 2011 8:33:03 PM UTC-5, villas wrote: You are right, this list must be one of the very best, and in addition to Massimo, there are some other great contributors. Amongst the many valuable messages that I read here, I wonder whether I might also single out Anthony's posts too - his answers to everyone's questions are really so helpful and well written. Thanks guys!
[web2py] Re: Massimo Di Pierro talks about web2py on FLOSS Weekly
I will think about making it open source in the future. The problem is a) It is my first python and web2py project, so the coding is not always as clean as an experienced python programmer would produce. Secondly a music download store is not close to a generic ecommerce store. When I have some more time I can maybe tidy up the code and make it an open source music download project. This week I wrote a picture gallery for my sister in law. I had previously written it in net objects fusion with the idea that she would be able to modify it. It proved much to complex so I have to add each picture for her. By rewriting in with web2py, which took perhaps half a day, she can now manage it herself. In the near future I will add this as an appliance. The one there is very incomplete and more javascript than web2py. Peter On Oct 29, 7:26 am, Gour g...@atmarama.net wrote: On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 14:48:52 -0700 (PDT) peter peterchutchin...@gmail.com wrote: I have just written an ecommerce site in web2py. ukjazz.net. [...] So I think that web2py is well suited to ecommerce. Do you plan to open-source your project? I'd like that we have some standard components in the web2py arena...e.g. Massimo said that IP is 'defacto standard' for cms/blog. Considering that it would be nice to have extra modules which could be plugged in IP to handle ecommerce etc. Finally, the name of IP resembles WP, so why not having such a ecosystem developed around it? The biggest problem is that the most useful things are not yet documented at all. However I would much rather use them undocumented than have to wait until they are fully tested and documented. In my case, I'm not full time developer and by using PHP CMS-es like WP, one can build a site using available components (plugins themes) which can be tweaked further or by adding extra functionality (writing plugin), so having some established components would have to quickly build sites not having to start from the scratch. I believe that Massimo's endeavour to iron out the 'appliances' is going in this direction. Of course, I understand that Web2py is not CMS/blogging platform, but framework, but having stable CMS/blog/ecommerce would bring many new people to web2py... Sincerely, Gour -- Those who are on this path are resolute in purpose, and their aim is one. O beloved child of the Kurus, the intelligence of those who are irresolute is many-branched. http://atmarama.net| Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: 52B5C810 signature.asc 1KViewDownload
[web2py] Re: Massimo Di Pierro talks about web2py on FLOSS Weekly
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 14:48:52 -0700 (PDT) peter peterchutchin...@gmail.com wrote: I have just written an ecommerce site in web2py. ukjazz.net. [...] So I think that web2py is well suited to ecommerce. Do you plan to open-source your project? I'd like that we have some standard components in the web2py arena...e.g. Massimo said that IP is 'defacto standard' for cms/blog. Considering that it would be nice to have extra modules which could be plugged in IP to handle ecommerce etc. Finally, the name of IP resembles WP, so why not having such a ecosystem developed around it? The biggest problem is that the most useful things are not yet documented at all. However I would much rather use them undocumented than have to wait until they are fully tested and documented. In my case, I'm not full time developer and by using PHP CMS-es like WP, one can build a site using available components (plugins themes) which can be tweaked further or by adding extra functionality (writing plugin), so having some established components would have to quickly build sites not having to start from the scratch. I believe that Massimo's endeavour to iron out the 'appliances' is going in this direction. Of course, I understand that Web2py is not CMS/blogging platform, but framework, but having stable CMS/blog/ecommerce would bring many new people to web2py... Sincerely, Gour -- Those who are on this path are resolute in purpose, and their aim is one. O beloved child of the Kurus, the intelligence of those who are irresolute is many-branched. http://atmarama.net | Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: 52B5C810 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[web2py] Re: Massimo Di Pierro talks about web2py on FLOSS Weekly
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 18:06:18 -0400 Justin Heath justin.he...@gmail.com wrote: You can use hg-git to interface with git repos from mercurial. Yeah, I know about it, but wonder if web2py will keep hg mirror as it is now situation with bzr (although the latter is much bigger). Sincerely, Gour -- The senses are so strong and impetuous, O Arjuna, that they forcibly carry away the mind even of a man of discrimination who is endeavoring to control them. http://atmarama.net | Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: 52B5C810 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[web2py] Re: Massimo Di Pierro talks about web2py on FLOSS Weekly
Thanks. Keep up posted on your progress. On Oct 28, 4:48 pm, peter peterchutchin...@gmail.com wrote: I have just written an ecommerce site in web2py. ukjazz.net. At the moment it is in demo form, so you can buy things for free when you click pay now. You will find that then it has things like view downloads, and view order history. It also has a facility for the record labels to look at their sales. I orginally choose Zencart because it was open source (php). It is far too complex, 4000 files! It was a very tricky business modifying it to my needs. I also hated PHP etc. I am expreinced enough at software support to know that launching a site with such a complex software base was creating a rod for my back in the future. I looked around at lots of approaches like Django and ruby for rails etc. I ended up with web2py and python. My main fear was that Web2py looked to good to be true, and I follow the motto 'If something looks too good to be true it probably is too good to be true'. However web2py delivered fantastically. I have a lot of exprience both in academia and outside it. I find that Web2py incorporates a lot of good practice. The end result is extraordinary. The huge complex zencart php program has been replaced by somthing relatively straightforward and elegant. Something so much easier to develop and maintain. Writing it was not a lot more work than modifying zencart to my needs. The actual ecommerce bit was somewhat less than a months work, and remember I started not knowing python and not knowing web2py, so a lot of that was working out how to do things. So I think that web2py is well suited to ecommerce. The book is pretty good, the forum extraordinarily helpful. The rate of development great too. Prior to this project I was very experienced programmer, but had real experience of web programming or SQL. Seeing how horrible web programming can be, Web2py has created a virtual machine on top of the web, and this virtual machine is much nicer to use. It has also sheltered me from having to learn the ugliness of SQL. So thanks to all those involved in this great project. Thanks in particular of course to Massimo. Massimo reminds me of Nikluas Wirth. I used to devlop programs in C and at that time they were very difficult to debug. I then tried Modula 2. When my progams compiled cleanly they usually worked straight away. The elegance of Modula 2 is similar to me the elgance of Web2py. (This is a double edged compliment as Modula 2 became unsupported due to the arrival of ADA and C++, a fate it did not deserve). I was a programmer before I became a lecturer. Lecturing on programming made me understand programming a lot better. Both Niklaus and Massimo encompassed that kind of learning in better tools which incorporate good practice. It is extraodinary the critisism that Massimo gets from some quarters because he has made a very large number of very wise choices in the design of Web2py. The simplicity of the solutions do not always meke this clear. The team also manage a rather extraodinary feat in both keeping Web2py kind of stable and yet developing at a rate at the same time. The biggest problem is that the most useful things are not yet documented at all. However I would much rather use them undocumented than have to wait until they are fully tested and documented. Peter On Oct 28, 9:21 pm, Gour g...@atmarama.net wrote: On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 17:17:51 -0200 Bruno Rocha rochacbr...@gmail.com wrote: VIDEO:http://twit.tv/show/floss-weekly/188 Watched video today...very nice presentation fo Web2py! One question: Massimo mentioned that web2py is going to move to github soon and I wonder whether one will be able to still use hg to fetch the code? Moreover, what about other projects like Instant Press being hosted at Bitbucket? Few days ago I had to move one SilverStripe site to WP not being able to use IP where some basic things like rendering of unordered lists is not proper (no bullets). Otoh, I really do not want to delve into PHP web programming, and would like to deploy Web2py for all my web needs, so having more web2py stuff under one umbrella (even if it's called github) might be good and would (hopefully) result in better docs as well as quicker fixes for web2py-related projects like Instant Press... One more concern: Massimo answered during the show that Web2py is mostly used in Intranet. so I wonder if there is, in general, enthusiasm withing this community to push out to build Internet sites as well and having CMS/blog/ecommerce modules available or is web2py simply more suitable for the former use-case? Sincerely, Gour -- One who restrains his senses, keeping them under full control, and fixes his consciousness upon Me, is known as a man of steady intelligence. http://atmarama.net|Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: 52B5C810 signature.asc 1KViewDownload
[web2py] Re: Massimo Di Pierro talks about web2py on FLOSS Weekly
On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 17:17:51 -0200 Bruno Rocha rochacbr...@gmail.com wrote: VIDEO: http://twit.tv/show/floss-weekly/188 Watched video today...very nice presentation fo Web2py! One question: Massimo mentioned that web2py is going to move to github soon and I wonder whether one will be able to still use hg to fetch the code? Moreover, what about other projects like Instant Press being hosted at Bitbucket? Few days ago I had to move one SilverStripe site to WP not being able to use IP where some basic things like rendering of unordered lists is not proper (no bullets). Otoh, I really do not want to delve into PHP web programming, and would like to deploy Web2py for all my web needs, so having more web2py stuff under one umbrella (even if it's called github) might be good and would (hopefully) result in better docs as well as quicker fixes for web2py-related projects like Instant Press... One more concern: Massimo answered during the show that Web2py is mostly used in Intranet. so I wonder if there is, in general, enthusiasm withing this community to push out to build Internet sites as well and having CMS/blog/ecommerce modules available or is web2py simply more suitable for the former use-case? Sincerely, Gour -- One who restrains his senses, keeping them under full control, and fixes his consciousness upon Me, is known as a man of steady intelligence. http://atmarama.net | Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: 52B5C810 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[web2py] Re: Massimo Di Pierro talks about web2py on FLOSS Weekly
I have just written an ecommerce site in web2py. ukjazz.net. At the moment it is in demo form, so you can buy things for free when you click pay now. You will find that then it has things like view downloads, and view order history. It also has a facility for the record labels to look at their sales. I orginally choose Zencart because it was open source (php). It is far too complex, 4000 files! It was a very tricky business modifying it to my needs. I also hated PHP etc. I am expreinced enough at software support to know that launching a site with such a complex software base was creating a rod for my back in the future. I looked around at lots of approaches like Django and ruby for rails etc. I ended up with web2py and python. My main fear was that Web2py looked to good to be true, and I follow the motto 'If something looks too good to be true it probably is too good to be true'. However web2py delivered fantastically. I have a lot of exprience both in academia and outside it. I find that Web2py incorporates a lot of good practice. The end result is extraordinary. The huge complex zencart php program has been replaced by somthing relatively straightforward and elegant. Something so much easier to develop and maintain. Writing it was not a lot more work than modifying zencart to my needs. The actual ecommerce bit was somewhat less than a months work, and remember I started not knowing python and not knowing web2py, so a lot of that was working out how to do things. So I think that web2py is well suited to ecommerce. The book is pretty good, the forum extraordinarily helpful. The rate of development great too. Prior to this project I was very experienced programmer, but had real experience of web programming or SQL. Seeing how horrible web programming can be, Web2py has created a virtual machine on top of the web, and this virtual machine is much nicer to use. It has also sheltered me from having to learn the ugliness of SQL. So thanks to all those involved in this great project. Thanks in particular of course to Massimo. Massimo reminds me of Nikluas Wirth. I used to devlop programs in C and at that time they were very difficult to debug. I then tried Modula 2. When my progams compiled cleanly they usually worked straight away. The elegance of Modula 2 is similar to me the elgance of Web2py. (This is a double edged compliment as Modula 2 became unsupported due to the arrival of ADA and C++, a fate it did not deserve). I was a programmer before I became a lecturer. Lecturing on programming made me understand programming a lot better. Both Niklaus and Massimo encompassed that kind of learning in better tools which incorporate good practice. It is extraodinary the critisism that Massimo gets from some quarters because he has made a very large number of very wise choices in the design of Web2py. The simplicity of the solutions do not always meke this clear. The team also manage a rather extraodinary feat in both keeping Web2py kind of stable and yet developing at a rate at the same time. The biggest problem is that the most useful things are not yet documented at all. However I would much rather use them undocumented than have to wait until they are fully tested and documented. Peter On Oct 28, 9:21 pm, Gour g...@atmarama.net wrote: On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 17:17:51 -0200 Bruno Rocha rochacbr...@gmail.com wrote: VIDEO:http://twit.tv/show/floss-weekly/188 Watched video today...very nice presentation fo Web2py! One question: Massimo mentioned that web2py is going to move to github soon and I wonder whether one will be able to still use hg to fetch the code? Moreover, what about other projects like Instant Press being hosted at Bitbucket? Few days ago I had to move one SilverStripe site to WP not being able to use IP where some basic things like rendering of unordered lists is not proper (no bullets). Otoh, I really do not want to delve into PHP web programming, and would like to deploy Web2py for all my web needs, so having more web2py stuff under one umbrella (even if it's called github) might be good and would (hopefully) result in better docs as well as quicker fixes for web2py-related projects like Instant Press... One more concern: Massimo answered during the show that Web2py is mostly used in Intranet. so I wonder if there is, in general, enthusiasm withing this community to push out to build Internet sites as well and having CMS/blog/ecommerce modules available or is web2py simply more suitable for the former use-case? Sincerely, Gour -- One who restrains his senses, keeping them under full control, and fixes his consciousness upon Me, is known as a man of steady intelligence. http://atmarama.net| Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: 52B5C810 signature.asc 1KViewDownload
Re: [web2py] Re: Massimo Di Pierro talks about web2py on FLOSS Weekly
You can use hg-git to interface with git repos from mercurial. http://hg-git.github.com/ On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Gour g...@atmarama.net wrote: On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 17:17:51 -0200 Bruno Rocha rochacbr...@gmail.com wrote: VIDEO: http://twit.tv/show/floss-weekly/188 Watched video today...very nice presentation fo Web2py! One question: Massimo mentioned that web2py is going to move to github soon and I wonder whether one will be able to still use hg to fetch the code? Moreover, what about other projects like Instant Press being hosted at Bitbucket? Few days ago I had to move one SilverStripe site to WP not being able to use IP where some basic things like rendering of unordered lists is not proper (no bullets). Otoh, I really do not want to delve into PHP web programming, and would like to deploy Web2py for all my web needs, so having more web2py stuff under one umbrella (even if it's called github) might be good and would (hopefully) result in better docs as well as quicker fixes for web2py-related projects like Instant Press... One more concern: Massimo answered during the show that Web2py is mostly used in Intranet. so I wonder if there is, in general, enthusiasm withing this community to push out to build Internet sites as well and having CMS/blog/ecommerce modules available or is web2py simply more suitable for the former use-case? Sincerely, Gour -- One who restrains his senses, keeping them under full control, and fixes his consciousness upon Me, is known as a man of steady intelligence. http://atmarama.net | Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: 52B5C810
[web2py] Re: Massimo Di Pierro talks about web2py on FLOSS Weekly
On Friday, October 28, 2011 4:21:30 PM UTC-4, Gour wrote: One more concern: Massimo answered during the show that Web2py is mostly used in Intranet. so I wonder if there is, in general, enthusiasm withing this community to push out to build Internet sites as well and having CMS/blog/ecommerce modules available or is web2py simply more suitable for the former use-case? There's no reason in principle not to use web2py for public websites, and obviously many people have (http://www.web2py.com/poweredby). Though most of those sites probably don't get particularly high traffic and aren't well known, there are some nice examples in that list. Anthony
Re: [web2py] Re: Massimo Di Pierro talks about web2py on FLOSS Weekly
Excellent testimony, you could prepare an academic version to incorporate the library of examples of web2py. Ovidio Marinho Falcao Neto Web Developer ovidio...@gmail.com ovidiomari...@itjp.net.br ITJP - itjp.net.br 83 8826 9088 - Oi 83 9334 0266 - Claro Brasil 2011/10/28 peter peterchutchin...@gmail.com I have just written an ecommerce site in web2py. ukjazz.net. At the moment it is in demo form, so you can buy things for free when you click pay now. You will find that then it has things like view downloads, and view order history. It also has a facility for the record labels to look at their sales. I orginally choose Zencart because it was open source (php). It is far too complex, 4000 files! It was a very tricky business modifying it to my needs. I also hated PHP etc. I am expreinced enough at software support to know that launching a site with such a complex software base was creating a rod for my back in the future. I looked around at lots of approaches like Django and ruby for rails etc. I ended up with web2py and python. My main fear was that Web2py looked to good to be true, and I follow the motto 'If something looks too good to be true it probably is too good to be true'. However web2py delivered fantastically. I have a lot of exprience both in academia and outside it. I find that Web2py incorporates a lot of good practice. The end result is extraordinary. The huge complex zencart php program has been replaced by somthing relatively straightforward and elegant. Something so much easier to develop and maintain. Writing it was not a lot more work than modifying zencart to my needs. The actual ecommerce bit was somewhat less than a months work, and remember I started not knowing python and not knowing web2py, so a lot of that was working out how to do things. So I think that web2py is well suited to ecommerce. The book is pretty good, the forum extraordinarily helpful. The rate of development great too. Prior to this project I was very experienced programmer, but had real experience of web programming or SQL. Seeing how horrible web programming can be, Web2py has created a virtual machine on top of the web, and this virtual machine is much nicer to use. It has also sheltered me from having to learn the ugliness of SQL. So thanks to all those involved in this great project. Thanks in particular of course to Massimo. Massimo reminds me of Nikluas Wirth. I used to devlop programs in C and at that time they were very difficult to debug. I then tried Modula 2. When my progams compiled cleanly they usually worked straight away. The elegance of Modula 2 is similar to me the elgance of Web2py. (This is a double edged compliment as Modula 2 became unsupported due to the arrival of ADA and C++, a fate it did not deserve). I was a programmer before I became a lecturer. Lecturing on programming made me understand programming a lot better. Both Niklaus and Massimo encompassed that kind of learning in better tools which incorporate good practice. It is extraodinary the critisism that Massimo gets from some quarters because he has made a very large number of very wise choices in the design of Web2py. The simplicity of the solutions do not always meke this clear. The team also manage a rather extraodinary feat in both keeping Web2py kind of stable and yet developing at a rate at the same time. The biggest problem is that the most useful things are not yet documented at all. However I would much rather use them undocumented than have to wait until they are fully tested and documented. Peter On Oct 28, 9:21 pm, Gour g...@atmarama.net wrote: On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 17:17:51 -0200 Bruno Rocha rochacbr...@gmail.com wrote: VIDEO:http://twit.tv/show/floss-weekly/188 Watched video today...very nice presentation fo Web2py! One question: Massimo mentioned that web2py is going to move to github soon and I wonder whether one will be able to still use hg to fetch the code? Moreover, what about other projects like Instant Press being hosted at Bitbucket? Few days ago I had to move one SilverStripe site to WP not being able to use IP where some basic things like rendering of unordered lists is not proper (no bullets). Otoh, I really do not want to delve into PHP web programming, and would like to deploy Web2py for all my web needs, so having more web2py stuff under one umbrella (even if it's called github) might be good and would (hopefully) result in better docs as well as quicker fixes for web2py-related projects like Instant Press... One more concern: Massimo answered during the show that Web2py is mostly used in Intranet. so I wonder if there is, in general, enthusiasm withing this community to push out to build Internet sites as well and having CMS/blog/ecommerce modules
[web2py] Re: Massimo Di Pierro talks about web2py on FLOSS Weekly
Very cool. I especially enjoyed the tactful handling of web2py's criticisms amongst the Python community as well as the fascinating physics tangent. M lattice quantum chromodynamics. May this bring even more attention to web2py. David On Oct 26, 3:17 pm, Bruno Rocha rochacbr...@gmail.com wrote: Massimo Di Pierro talks about web2py on FLOSS Weekly AUDIO:http://twit.cachefly.net/floss0188.mp3 VIDEO:http://twit.tv/show/floss-weekly/188 -- Bruno Rocha [http://rochacbruno.com.br]
[web2py] Re: Massimo: What is happening with Wiki Plugin
what database? On May 10, 6:22 pm, Oscar oscar.m...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Massimo, I´m using your plugin_wiki for build a Wiki, so I had found a lot of issues, I don´t know if these are bugs or a simple messed up plugin_wiki installation. Before describe my problem I must state that all DB are set as migrate_enabled=False I had created some pages in the Wiki, after few days I wanted to erase some pages, but it can't. Web2Py returns the following error: Traceback (most recent call last):\n File /home/dotcloud/current/ gluon/restricted.py, line 181, in restricted\n exec ccode in environment\n File /home/dotcloud/ec5e653/applications/init/ controllers/plugin_wiki.py, line 324, in module\n File /home/ dotcloud/current/gluon/globals.py, line 133, in lambda\n self._caller = lambda f: f()\n File /home/dotcloud/current/gluon/ tools.py, line 2302, in f\n return action(*a, **b)\n File /home/ dotcloud/ec5e653/applications/init/controllers/plugin_wiki.py, line 72, in page_edit\n next=URL(r=request,f=\'page\',args=request.args)) \n File /home/dotcloud/current/gluon/tools.py, line 2915, in update \n callback(onaccept,form,table._tablename)\n File /home/dotcloud/ current/gluon/tools.py, line 53, in callback\n [action(form) for action in actions]\n File /home/dotcloud/current/gluon/tools.py, line 2809, in archive\n id = archive_table.insert(**new_record)\n File /home/dotcloud/current/gluon/dal.py, line 4487, in insert\n return self._db._adapter.insert(self,self._listify(fields))\n File / home/dotcloud/current/gluon/dal.py, line 772, in insert\n raise e \nIntegrityError: insert or update on table plugin_wiki_page_archive violates foreign key constraint plugin_wiki_page_archive_current_record_fkey\nDETAIL: Key (current_record)=(40) is not present in table plugin_wiki_page.\n\n' p4724 I checked the plugin_wiki_page table and all looks fine. If you can give me some lights about this issue it will be apreciated. Oscar.
[web2py] Re: @Massimo: email notification on documentation User Comments additions
Good point. I will look into ti. should not be difficult but I am swamped at the moment. If it does not get done in one week, please remind me personally. Massimo On Oct 3, 2:20 pm, cjrh caleb.hatti...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Massimo Is it possible for you to set something up so that I can be notified by email whenever a visitor to the web2py book leaves a User Comment? Frequently, these comments point out errors in the documentation. I would like to fix errors faster, but I don't get around to check the all comments often enough. While we're at it, if anyone else is willing to email documentation bugs to me directly, that's fine too, and I'll try to fix them as soon as possible, time permitting. IMO, Documentation bugs also includes passages that are more difficult to understand than they might need to be.
