Re: [web2py] Re: Mobile and Tablets detection
Hi I am having trouble with detecting a mobile user when emulating an iPhone (or any of the mobile devices) in the desktop version of Chrome. Edge seems to work fine. *request.user_agent() * gives me: , 'os': , 'bot': False, 'browser': , 'is_mobile': *False*, 'is_tablet': False}> *request.env.http_user_agent *gives me: 'Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; CPU iPhone OS 10_3_1 like Mac OS X) AppleWebKit/603.1.30 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/10.0 Mobile/14E304 Safari/602.1' Is there any trick to getting that emulation working correctly in Chrome? Andrew FYI, this is what I get when using the emulation in Edge request.user_agent() , 'os': , 'bot': False, 'dist': , 'browser': , 'is_mobile': True, 'is_tablet': False}> request.env.http_user_agent 'Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; CPU iPhone OS 13_2_3 like Mac OS X) AppleWebKit/605.1.15 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/13.0.3 Mobile/15E148 Safari/604.1 Edg/85.0.4183.121' On Sunday, 21 July 2013 at 21:22:52 UTC+10 LightDot wrote: > A quick look at WURFL - looks fine, except for the license which might be > problematic for some projects - AGPL v3. They offer commercial licenses > too, which might solve the problem for some. > > Regards, > Ales > > On Saturday, July 20, 2013 6:14:17 PM UTC+2, Christian Foster Howes wrote: >> >> is the WURFL library of devices more or less complete then the mobile >> browser list? http://wurfl.sourceforge.net/ I used the WURFL 5-6 years >> ago and found it to be the most complete open-source list at the time. >> >> On Wednesday, July 17, 2013 11:57:28 PM UTC-7, AngeloC wrote: >>> >>> Hi Marcio, >>> >>> I'm planning to grow the supported mobile devices list in web2py, but >>> the support right now is fairly extensive. >>> I got the user agent strings here >>> http://www.useragentstring.com/pages/Mobile%20Browserlist/ and added at >>> least one of the devices for each family to the unit test of >>> gluon/contrib/user_agent_parser.py . >>> >>> That class right now could discriminate between phone and tablets, so I >>> think you can't find somany differences with http://mobiledetect.net/ . >>> >>> Sincerly, >>> Angelo >>> >>> -- >>> Profile: http://it.linkedin.com/in/compagnucciangelo >>> >> -- Resources: - http://web2py.com - http://web2py.com/book (Documentation) - http://github.com/web2py/web2py (Source code) - https://code.google.com/p/web2py/issues/list (Report Issues) --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "web2py-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/web2py/ce5b3f1b-2932-4a30-ae71-634800c1cb35n%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [web2py] Re: Mobile and Tablets detection
A quick look at WURFL - looks fine, except for the license which might be problematic for some projects - AGPL v3. They offer commercial licenses too, which might solve the problem for some. Regards, Ales On Saturday, July 20, 2013 6:14:17 PM UTC+2, Christian Foster Howes wrote: is the WURFL library of devices more or less complete then the mobile browser list? http://wurfl.sourceforge.net/ I used the WURFL 5-6 years ago and found it to be the most complete open-source list at the time. On Wednesday, July 17, 2013 11:57:28 PM UTC-7, AngeloC wrote: Hi Marcio, I'm planning to grow the supported mobile devices list in web2py, but the support right now is fairly extensive. I got the user agent strings here http://www.useragentstring.com/pages/Mobile%20Browserlist/ and added at least one of the devices for each family to the unit test of gluon/contrib/user_agent_parser.py . That class right now could discriminate between phone and tablets, so I think you can't find somany differences with http://mobiledetect.net/ . Sincerly, Angelo -- Profile: http://it.linkedin.com/in/compagnucciangelo -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups web2py-users group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [web2py] Re: Mobile and Tablets detection
is the WURFL library of devices more or less complete then the mobile browser list? http://wurfl.sourceforge.net/ I used the WURFL 5-6 years ago and found it to be the most complete open-source list at the time. On Wednesday, July 17, 2013 11:57:28 PM UTC-7, AngeloC wrote: Hi Marcio, I'm planning to grow the supported mobile devices list in web2py, but the support right now is fairly extensive. I got the user agent strings here http://www.useragentstring.com/pages/Mobile%20Browserlist/ and added at least one of the devices for each family to the unit test of gluon/contrib/user_agent_parser.py . That class right now could discriminate between phone and tablets, so I think you can't find somany differences with http://mobiledetect.net/ . Sincerly, Angelo -- Profile: http://it.linkedin.com/in/compagnucciangelo -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups web2py-users group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[web2py] Re: Mobile and Tablets detection
I have no idea how complete WURFL is but it it seems that request.user_agent() will do the job. Regards. -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups web2py-users group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[web2py] Re: Mobile and Tablets detection
ok, you're fond of that php library. But did you take a closer look to what you have right in web2py using request.user_agent() ? web2py uses gluon/contrib/user_agent_parser.py to fill up those fields and it does the exact same thing! Il giorno giovedì 18 luglio 2013 01:05:11 UTC+2, Marcio Andrey Oliveira ha scritto: Hi. Thank you for replying. I really don't know all user agents and I prefer to rely on a library that automatically detects whether the users is browsing from a regular computer, a mobile or a tablet. The greatest benefit (IMHO) from mobiledetect is that it's regularly updated to incorporate new devices. If you take a look at mobile detect source code you will see that are around 1,300 devices up to now. I thought I could try to convert its code from PHP to python but as I'm not that good on python I wondered if someone in python community have made a similar library / module. Regards. On Wednesday, July 17, 2013 3:12:47 PM UTC-3, Marcio Andrey Oliveira wrote: Hi. I'm wondering whether exists a python project that detect mobiles and tables that be as good and as up to date as http://mobiledetect.net/ Thanks. -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups web2py-users group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [web2py] Re: Mobile and Tablets detection
Hi Marcio, I'm planning to grow the supported mobile devices list in web2py, but the support right now is fairly extensive. I got the user agent strings here http://www.useragentstring.com/pages/Mobile%20Browserlist/ and added at least one of the devices for each family to the unit test of gluon/contrib/user_agent_parser.py . That class right now could discriminate between phone and tablets, so I think you can't find somany differences with http://mobiledetect.net/ . Sincerly, Angelo -- Profile: http://it.linkedin.com/in/compagnucciangelo -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups web2py-users group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [web2py] Re: Mobile and Tablets detection
Niphlod, I'm fairly new to web2py (I'm reading the official book but I'm still on page #160 of 614 pages) and I'm trying to collect the most possible information that I think relevant for what I'm planning to do. Even if I had read entirely book I believe that not all information about web2py will be there. That's why I'm asking. All information I gather will help me decide which framework better fits my needs. I understood from your last email that I could call request.user_agent()and then I should figure out by myself whether it's a mobile user agent or not what I don't think feasible. The mobile detect library has methods like *is_mobile()*, ? and *is_android()* that make life easier. Thank you for taking your time to answer my post. I really appreciate that. Angelo, I'm glad to hear that. Could you please show me a snippet on how to test if a browser is mobile? Thank you a lot. -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups web2py-users group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [web2py] Re: Mobile and Tablets detection
fyi request.user_agent().is_mobile will return false for ipod touch now. On Thursday, July 18, 2013 9:43:10 PM UTC+8, Marcio Andrey Oliveira wrote: Niphlod, I'm fairly new to web2py (I'm reading the official book but I'm still on page #160 of 614 pages) and I'm trying to collect the most possible information that I think relevant for what I'm planning to do. Even if I had read entirely book I believe that not all information about web2py will be there. That's why I'm asking. All information I gather will help me decide which framework better fits my needs. I understood from your last email that I could call request.user_agent()and then I should figure out by myself whether it's a mobile user agent or not what I don't think feasible. The mobile detect library has methods like *is_mobile()*, ? and *is_android()* that make life easier. Thank you for taking your time to answer my post. I really appreciate that. Angelo, I'm glad to hear that. Could you please show me a snippet on how to test if a browser is mobile? Thank you a lot. -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups web2py-users group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[web2py] Re: Mobile and Tablets detection
vince, thank you for answering me. Regards. On Wednesday, July 17, 2013 3:12:47 PM UTC-3, Marcio Andrey Oliveira wrote: Hi. I'm wondering whether exists a python project that detect mobiles and tables that be as good and as up to date as http://mobiledetect.net/ Thanks. -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups web2py-users group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [web2py] Re: Mobile and Tablets detection
I get the tell me more argument, but if you fire up web2py and just try it, you'll find those things on your own if you just use request.user_agent(). You can even find out that the scaffolding application make use of this by default inspecting request.user_agent().is_mobile flag to render a mobile-compatible menu out based on user_agent parsing. Yep, it may be not updated in a while, but that can be easily fixed as @angelo said already in a previous post. On Thursday, July 18, 2013 3:43:10 PM UTC+2, Marcio Andrey Oliveira wrote: Niphlod, I'm fairly new to web2py (I'm reading the official book but I'm still on page #160 of 614 pages) and I'm trying to collect the most possible information that I think relevant for what I'm planning to do. Even if I had read entirely book I believe that not all information about web2py will be there. That's why I'm asking. All information I gather will help me decide which framework better fits my needs. I understood from your last email that I could call request.user_agent()and then I should figure out by myself whether it's a mobile user agent or not what I don't think feasible. The mobile detect library has methods like *is_mobile()*, ? and *is_android()* that make life easier. Thank you for taking your time to answer my post. I really appreciate that. Angelo, I'm glad to hear that. Could you please show me a snippet on how to test if a browser is mobile? Thank you a lot. -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups web2py-users group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[web2py] Re: Mobile and Tablets detection
because response.user_agent doesn't work for you ? On Wednesday, July 17, 2013 8:12:47 PM UTC+2, Marcio Andrey Oliveira wrote: Hi. I'm wondering whether exists a python project that detect mobiles and tables that be as good and as up to date as http://mobiledetect.net/ Thanks. -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups web2py-users group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[web2py] Re: Mobile and Tablets detection
whoops. request.user_agent() On Wednesday, July 17, 2013 11:50:10 PM UTC+2, Niphlod wrote: because response.user_agent doesn't work for you ? On Wednesday, July 17, 2013 8:12:47 PM UTC+2, Marcio Andrey Oliveira wrote: Hi. I'm wondering whether exists a python project that detect mobiles and tables that be as good and as up to date as http://mobiledetect.net/ Thanks. -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups web2py-users group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[web2py] Re: Mobile and Tablets detection
Hi. Thank you for replying. I really don't know all user agents and I prefer to rely on a library that automatically detects whether the users is browsing from a regular computer, a mobile or a tablet. The greatest benefit (IMHO) from mobiledetect is that it's regularly updated to incorporate new devices. If you take a look at mobile detect source code you will see that are around 1,300 devices up to now. I tough I could try to convert its code from PHP to python but as I'm not that good on python I wondered if someone in python community have made a similar library / module. Regards. On Wednesday, July 17, 2013 3:12:47 PM UTC-3, Marcio Andrey Oliveira wrote: Hi. I'm wondering whether exists a python project that detect mobiles and tables that be as good and as up to date as http://mobiledetect.net/ Thanks. -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups web2py-users group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
