Re: [web2py] Re: Rocket vs mod_wsgi
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Re: [web2py] Re: Rocket vs mod_wsgi
> Compiled uwsgi 0.9.9.3 (the 0.9.8.1 did not now about pythonpath) > uwsgi --pythonpath /opt/web-apps/web2py --module wsgihandler --http :80 -s > /tmp/we2py.sock >uwsgi.log 2>&1 > > 1 CPU: 17.83 [#/sec] (better than rocket) > 2 CPUs: 17.98 [#/sec] > > uwsgi --pythonpath /opt/web-apps/web2py --module wsgihandler --http :80 -s > /tmp/we2py.sock -M -p2 >uwsgi.log 2>&1 > > 2 CPUs: 31.30 [#/sec] > > I guess with the -p 2 enabled it was not as fast as nginx for static > content. because you are comparing a preforking (apache-style) approach with a non-blocking one (nginx). For determistic areas (like serving static files) there is no competition. This is why having a non blocking-server on front of the application server is a common setup. Having a front-end will obviously slow-down things, but the impact (as you have already noted) is non-existant. (by the way, --http is still a proxied-setup as the uwsgi http server will run in another process, if you want native http you have to use --http-socket) In addition to this, you have to think about security: nginx, apache, cherokee... are all developed for being front-line servers, and this requires a higher level of security in mind. > > Anyhow, is this a recommended setup? Doesn't it show the same behavior as > gunicorn ( "Without this (nginx) buffering Gunicorn will be easily > susceptible to denial-of-service attacks." ) > as i have already said having a front line server (like --http does) is always a good choice, independently by the front-line server. Nginx has obviously more tolerance in high-concurrency in serving static file (have you tried the --static-map and --check-static option in uWSGI 1.0.x ?), but if you are developing the next amazon, you should really start thinking about using a CDN for your static assets instead of your own webserver. regarding gunicorn, it does only one thing and does it well (TM), its philosophy is towards simplicity, writing logic to check the good-behaviour of your app (like uWSGI morbidly does) is at the opposite of that philosophy. I am perfectly agree with this approach (programmers should fix their apps), but i work in a ISP where customers expect their apps being available as most as possibile and tend to blame the ISP for their fault (yes, it is a ugly world :). That's why uWSGI exists and that's why you cannot compare it with gunicorn (different philosophy and different target) -- Roberto De Ioris http://unbit.it
[web2py] Re: Rocket vs mod_wsgi
Compiled uwsgi 0.9.9.3 (the 0.9.8.1 did not now about pythonpath) uwsgi --pythonpath /opt/web-apps/web2py --module wsgihandler --http :80 -s /tmp/we2py.sock >uwsgi.log 2>&1 1 CPU: 17.83 [#/sec] (better than rocket) 2 CPUs: 17.98 [#/sec] uwsgi --pythonpath /opt/web-apps/web2py --module wsgihandler --http :80 -s /tmp/we2py.sock -M -p2 >uwsgi.log 2>&1 2 CPUs: 31.30 [#/sec] I guess with the -p 2 enabled it was not as fast as nginx for static content. Anyhow, is this a recommended setup? Doesn't it show the same behavior as gunicorn ( "Without this (nginx) buffering Gunicorn will be easily susceptible to denial-of-service attacks." )
[web2py] Re: Rocket vs mod_wsgi
Any chance of trying uwsgi on its own, something like this uwsgi --pythonpath /opt/web-apps/web2py --module wsgihandler --http : 80 -s /tmp/we2py.sock Thanks Peter On Dec 11, 1:10 pm, rif wrote: > In the same environment I tested nginx configuration: > > nginx: 1.0.10 > uwsgi: 0.9.8.1 > > ab -n1000 -c20http://192.168.122.187/welcome/default/index > This is ApacheBench, Version 2.3 <$Revision: 655654 $> > Copyright 1996 Adam Twiss, Zeus Technology Ltd,http://www.zeustech.net/ > Licensed to The Apache Software Foundation,http://www.apache.org/ > > Benchmarking 192.168.122.187 (be patient) > Completed 100 requests > Completed 200 requests > Completed 300 requests > Completed 400 requests > Completed 500 requests > Completed 600 requests > Completed 700 requests > Completed 800 requests > Completed 900 requests > Completed 1000 requests > Finished 1000 requests > > Server Software: nginx/1.0.10 > Server Hostname: 192.168.122.187 > Server Port: 80 > > Document Path: /welcome/default/index > Document Length: 11432 bytes > > Concurrency Level: 20 > Time taken for tests: 58.306 seconds > Complete requests: 1000 > Failed requests: 0 > Write errors: 0 > Total transferred: 11819000 bytes > HTML transferred: 11432000 bytes > *Requests per second: 17.15 [#/sec] (mean)* > Time per request: 1166.116 [ms] (mean) > Time per request: 58.306 [ms] (mean, across all concurrent requests) > Transfer rate: 197.96 [Kbytes/sec] received > > Connection Times (ms) > min mean[+/-sd] median max > Connect: 0 1 1.3 0 12 > Processing: 218 1155 180.3 1104 2045 > Waiting: 217 1154 180.3 1104 2045 > Total: 225 1156 180.0 1105 2046 > > Percentage of the requests served within a certain time (ms) > 50% 1105 > 66% 1124 > 75% 1152 > 80% 1177 > 90% 1247 > 95% 1507 > 98% 2009 > 99% 2022 > 100% 2046 (longest request) > > Conclusion: > Just a bit slower than Rocket. > > Nginx + wsgi is my current server configuration
[web2py] Re: Rocket vs mod_wsgi
I understand and it is very much appreciated. I will correct it. massimo On Dec 11, 10:15 am, rif wrote: > This comparison was intended to help writing the why web2py paragraph from > the book (https://groups.google.com/d/topic/web2py/29jdfjejwZo/discussion)
[web2py] Re: Rocket vs mod_wsgi
This comparison was intended to help writing the why web2py paragraph from the book (https://groups.google.com/d/topic/web2py/29jdfjejwZo/discussion )
[web2py] Re: Rocket vs mod_wsgi
Python multithreaded programs (all of them, including rocket and mod_wsgi) decrease performance the more CPUs you have. This is because of the GIL. It is a well known problem and, in view, the biggest problem with Python. In the case of apache, to improve things, you have to configure apache to run one child per cpu. On Dec 11, 8:04 am, rif wrote: > And now the weirdest thing: > > Enabling two CPUs on the virtual machine gave me the following weird > results: > > nginx: 31.92 [#/sec] > apache: 10.63 [#/sec] > rocket: 10.36 [#/sec] > > So 1000 request with a concurrency of 20 on 2 CPUs actually slows down > apache and rocket. I thought that apache and rocket hit the memory limit so > I raised the memory to 1024 but the results remained the same. > > Is this even possible? I can understand that the performance could stay the > same with 2CPUs (the servers are not using the second one) but to actually > drop the performance is not very intuitive. > > I guess the default configuration of apache and rocket should be improved > since most of the servers have more than 1 CPU. Or maybe I just my > environment.
[web2py] Re: Rocket vs mod_wsgi
And now the weirdest thing: Enabling two CPUs on the virtual machine gave me the following weird results: nginx: 31.92 [#/sec] apache: 10.63 [#/sec] rocket: 10.36 [#/sec] So 1000 request with a concurrency of 20 on 2 CPUs actually slows down apache and rocket. I thought that apache and rocket hit the memory limit so I raised the memory to 1024 but the results remained the same. Is this even possible? I can understand that the performance could stay the same with 2CPUs (the servers are not using the second one) but to actually drop the performance is not very intuitive. I guess the default configuration of apache and rocket should be improved since most of the servers have more than 1 CPU. Or maybe I just my environment.
[web2py] Re: Rocket vs mod_wsgi
In the same environment I tested nginx configuration: nginx: 1.0.10 uwsgi: 0.9.8.1 ab -n1000 -c20 http://192.168.122.187/welcome/default/index This is ApacheBench, Version 2.3 <$Revision: 655654 $> Copyright 1996 Adam Twiss, Zeus Technology Ltd, http://www.zeustech.net/ Licensed to The Apache Software Foundation, http://www.apache.org/ Benchmarking 192.168.122.187 (be patient) Completed 100 requests Completed 200 requests Completed 300 requests Completed 400 requests Completed 500 requests Completed 600 requests Completed 700 requests Completed 800 requests Completed 900 requests Completed 1000 requests Finished 1000 requests Server Software:nginx/1.0.10 Server Hostname:192.168.122.187 Server Port:80 Document Path: /welcome/default/index Document Length:11432 bytes Concurrency Level: 20 Time taken for tests: 58.306 seconds Complete requests: 1000 Failed requests:0 Write errors: 0 Total transferred: 11819000 bytes HTML transferred: 11432000 bytes *Requests per second:17.15 [#/sec] (mean)* Time per request: 1166.116 [ms] (mean) Time per request: 58.306 [ms] (mean, across all concurrent requests) Transfer rate: 197.96 [Kbytes/sec] received Connection Times (ms) min mean[+/-sd] median max Connect:01 1.3 0 12 Processing: 218 1155 180.3 11042045 Waiting: 217 1154 180.3 11042045 Total:225 1156 180.0 11052046 Percentage of the requests served within a certain time (ms) 50% 1105 66% 1124 75% 1152 80% 1177 90% 1247 95% 1507 98% 2009 99% 2022 100% 2046 (longest request) Conclusion: Just a bit slower than Rocket. Nginx + wsgi is my current server configuration
