[web2py] Re: Webhosts for Web2py

2013-08-31 Thread Adi
Their pricing looks good. Do they offer different distributions (ubuntu 
primarily)? I've been with linode for the last year, and so far very happy.

Adnan 


On Thursday, August 29, 2013 5:20:10 PM UTC-4, Anthony wrote:

 You might consider Digital Ocean https://www.digitalocean.com/pricing (just 
 moved there from Amazon) -- $5/month gets you quite a bit, and for an extra 
 $1 you get backups. Data centers in New York, San Francisco, and Amsterdam.

 Anthony

 On Tuesday, August 27, 2013 2:11:22 PM UTC-7, Vivek Jha wrote:

 I am new in web development and I have started with web2py and have 
 almost copleted reading the web2py book.

 Now few practical issues are coming up about which I don't have any 
 experience and that is chosing the right economical webhost.

 I think following suits my pocket:
 1. Bluehost
 2. Hostgator (mainly becuase they have presence in India as well)
 3. Justhost.

 Do any of guys have any experience with these web hosts. As most of the 
 webhosts are still not able to see the world beyond PHP and wordpress they 
 have not mentioned python support specifically though they may be 
 supporting Python based applications internally.

 Questions:
 1. Do the above webhosts will be able to support Web2Py with FastCGI.
 2. Is having shell access a must for running web2py.
 3. Will it be possible to run Web2Py on the main domain and Wordpress on 
 subdomain or vice versa with them.
 4. Whom to ask about WSGI setup? Is this a webshost specific question or 
 Web2Py specific.

 If you think I have not asked the right questions, then please assume me 
 as a beginner in the hosting world and let me if there are any catches 
 about which I should be careful of.



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[web2py] Re: Webhosts for Web2py

2013-08-31 Thread Anthony
On Saturday, August 31, 2013 6:32:16 AM UTC-7, Adi wrote:

 Their pricing looks good. Do they offer different distributions (ubuntu 
 primarily)?


Ubuntu 10.4, 12.04, 12.10, and 13.04 in x32 and x64. Also, CentOS, Debian, 
Arch Linux, and Fedora.
 

 I've been with linode for the last year, and so far very happy.


Yes, I've read a lot of great things about Linode, and recently many 
equally great things about Digital Ocean (including that they have great 
customer service and are cheaper than Linode).

Anthony

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[web2py] Re: Webhosts for Web2py

2013-08-30 Thread samuel bonill
I use *Amazon EC2* http://aws.amazon.com/ec2and 
*rackspace*http://www.rackspace.com


El martes, 27 de agosto de 2013 16:11:22 UTC-5, Vivek Jha escribió:

 I am new in web development and I have started with web2py and have almost 
 copleted reading the web2py book.

 Now few practical issues are coming up about which I don't have any 
 experience and that is chosing the right economical webhost.

 I think following suits my pocket:
 1. Bluehost
 2. Hostgator (mainly becuase they have presence in India as well)
 3. Justhost.

 Do any of guys have any experience with these web hosts. As most of the 
 webhosts are still not able to see the world beyond PHP and wordpress they 
 have not mentioned python support specifically though they may be 
 supporting Python based applications internally.

 Questions:
 1. Do the above webhosts will be able to support Web2Py with FastCGI.
 2. Is having shell access a must for running web2py.
 3. Will it be possible to run Web2Py on the main domain and Wordpress on 
 subdomain or vice versa with them.
 4. Whom to ask about WSGI setup? Is this a webshost specific question or 
 Web2Py specific.

 If you think I have not asked the right questions, then please assume me 
 as a beginner in the hosting world and let me if there are any catches 
 about which I should be careful of.


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[web2py] Re: Webhosts for Web2py

2013-08-29 Thread Loïc
My apps are hosted at pythonanywhere.com
People there are very helpfull and responsive.
I recommend it...


Le mercredi 28 août 2013 16:41:25 UTC+2, Massimo Di Pierro a écrit :

 Answers below.

 On Tuesday, 27 August 2013 16:11:22 UTC-5, Vivek Jha wrote:

 I am new in web development and I have started with web2py and have 
 almost copleted reading the web2py book.

 Now few practical issues are coming up about which I don't have any 
 experience and that is chosing the right economical webhost.

 I think following suits my pocket:
 1. Bluehost
 2. Hostgator (mainly becuase they have presence in India as well)
 3. Justhost. 


 Do any of guys have any experience with these web hosts. As most of the 
 webhosts are still not able to see the world beyond PHP and wordpress they 
 have not mentioned python support specifically though they may be 
 supporting Python based applications internally.

 Questions:
 1. Do the above webhosts will be able to support Web2Py with FastCGI.


 I just looked them up and they all they they do. They have instructions 
 for Django. The same instructions apply to web2py except that 1) you do not 
 need to install Django 2) you need to download and unzip web2py 3) you need 
 to configure apache to point to the provided fcgihandler.py.
  

 2. Is having shell access a must for running web2py.


 You don't but it is convenient for maintenance. All the hosts you listed 
 have a shell.
  

 3. Will it be possible to run Web2Py on the main domain and Wordpress on 
 subdomain or vice versa with them.


 That's an apache configuration issue. Yes you can. web2py does not care. 
 If there is a path prefix you have to use routes.py to tell web2py to 
 ignore the prefix.
  

 4. Whom to ask about WSGI setup? Is this a webshost specific question or 
 Web2Py specific.


 That's a host specific issue. It is unlikely shared hosts will support it.
  

 If you think I have not asked the right questions, then please assume me 
 as a beginner in the hosting world and let me if there are any catches 
 about which I should be careful of.


 As a rule of thumb, if they have instructions for any other python 
 framework you can do it with web2py too. We can help you convert the 
 instructions. All python frameworks use the same standard mechanisms to 
 talk to web servers. web2py is actually easier than others because you do 
 not need root privileges to install it nor you need virtualenv. We also 
 support all adapters: wsgi, fcgi, scgi, cgi, mod_python (discouraged), 
 isapi (windows only). The real issue is, if they don't allow wsgi, than 
 probably you need to run web2py using fcgi. This means you need to run your 
 own long running process. What tools do they offer to do that (start, 
 monitor, restart). Moreover if you later need a third party module that 
 requires sudo access, will they install it for you? If they are mostly a 
 Ruby or PHP shop, they will not help you much.  I have worked with 
 pythonanywhere.com and they were very helpful and responsive.


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[web2py] Re: Webhosts for Web2py

2013-08-29 Thread Ykä Marjanen
Regarding pythonanywhere.com, what's the best way to run own background 
tasks? In the website they state 1-hour scheduled task, but I need to run 
multiple tasks almost real-time (e.g. sending registration emails and 
such). I've designed my website so that most tasks are queued and done in 
the background.

Ykä

On Thursday, August 29, 2013 9:33:36 AM UTC+3, Loïc wrote:

 My apps are hosted at pythonanywhere.com
 People there are very helpfull and responsive.
 I recommend it...


 Le mercredi 28 août 2013 16:41:25 UTC+2, Massimo Di Pierro a écrit :

 Answers below.

 On Tuesday, 27 August 2013 16:11:22 UTC-5, Vivek Jha wrote:

 I am new in web development and I have started with web2py and have 
 almost copleted reading the web2py book.

 Now few practical issues are coming up about which I don't have any 
 experience and that is chosing the right economical webhost.

 I think following suits my pocket:
 1. Bluehost
 2. Hostgator (mainly becuase they have presence in India as well)
 3. Justhost. 


 Do any of guys have any experience with these web hosts. As most of the 
 webhosts are still not able to see the world beyond PHP and wordpress they 
 have not mentioned python support specifically though they may be 
 supporting Python based applications internally.

 Questions:
 1. Do the above webhosts will be able to support Web2Py with FastCGI.


 I just looked them up and they all they they do. They have instructions 
 for Django. The same instructions apply to web2py except that 1) you do not 
 need to install Django 2) you need to download and unzip web2py 3) you need 
 to configure apache to point to the provided fcgihandler.py.
  

 2. Is having shell access a must for running web2py.


 You don't but it is convenient for maintenance. All the hosts you listed 
 have a shell.
  

 3. Will it be possible to run Web2Py on the main domain and Wordpress on 
 subdomain or vice versa with them.


 That's an apache configuration issue. Yes you can. web2py does not care. 
 If there is a path prefix you have to use routes.py to tell web2py to 
 ignore the prefix.
  

 4. Whom to ask about WSGI setup? Is this a webshost specific question or 
 Web2Py specific.


 That's a host specific issue. It is unlikely shared hosts will support it.
  

 If you think I have not asked the right questions, then please assume me 
 as a beginner in the hosting world and let me if there are any catches 
 about which I should be careful of.


 As a rule of thumb, if they have instructions for any other python 
 framework you can do it with web2py too. We can help you convert the 
 instructions. All python frameworks use the same standard mechanisms to 
 talk to web servers. web2py is actually easier than others because you do 
 not need root privileges to install it nor you need virtualenv. We also 
 support all adapters: wsgi, fcgi, scgi, cgi, mod_python (discouraged), 
 isapi (windows only). The real issue is, if they don't allow wsgi, than 
 probably you need to run web2py using fcgi. This means you need to run your 
 own long running process. What tools do they offer to do that (start, 
 monitor, restart). Moreover if you later need a third party module that 
 requires sudo access, will they install it for you? If they are mostly a 
 Ruby or PHP shop, they will not help you much.  I have worked with 
 pythonanywhere.com and they were very helpful and responsive.



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[web2py] Re: Webhosts for Web2py

2013-08-29 Thread Anthony
You might consider Digital Ocean https://www.digitalocean.com/pricing (just 
moved there from Amazon) -- $5/month gets you quite a bit, and for an extra 
$1 you get backups. Data centers in New York, San Francisco, and Amsterdam.

Anthony

On Tuesday, August 27, 2013 2:11:22 PM UTC-7, Vivek Jha wrote:

 I am new in web development and I have started with web2py and have almost 
 copleted reading the web2py book.

 Now few practical issues are coming up about which I don't have any 
 experience and that is chosing the right economical webhost.

 I think following suits my pocket:
 1. Bluehost
 2. Hostgator (mainly becuase they have presence in India as well)
 3. Justhost.

 Do any of guys have any experience with these web hosts. As most of the 
 webhosts are still not able to see the world beyond PHP and wordpress they 
 have not mentioned python support specifically though they may be 
 supporting Python based applications internally.

 Questions:
 1. Do the above webhosts will be able to support Web2Py with FastCGI.
 2. Is having shell access a must for running web2py.
 3. Will it be possible to run Web2Py on the main domain and Wordpress on 
 subdomain or vice versa with them.
 4. Whom to ask about WSGI setup? Is this a webshost specific question or 
 Web2Py specific.

 If you think I have not asked the right questions, then please assume me 
 as a beginner in the hosting world and let me if there are any catches 
 about which I should be careful of.


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[web2py] Re: Webhosts for Web2py

2013-08-28 Thread Massimo Di Pierro
Answers below.

On Tuesday, 27 August 2013 16:11:22 UTC-5, Vivek Jha wrote:

 I am new in web development and I have started with web2py and have almost 
 copleted reading the web2py book.

 Now few practical issues are coming up about which I don't have any 
 experience and that is chosing the right economical webhost.

 I think following suits my pocket:
 1. Bluehost
 2. Hostgator (mainly becuase they have presence in India as well)
 3. Justhost. 


 Do any of guys have any experience with these web hosts. As most of the 
 webhosts are still not able to see the world beyond PHP and wordpress they 
 have not mentioned python support specifically though they may be 
 supporting Python based applications internally.

 Questions:
 1. Do the above webhosts will be able to support Web2Py with FastCGI.


I just looked them up and they all they they do. They have instructions for 
Django. The same instructions apply to web2py except that 1) you do not 
need to install Django 2) you need to download and unzip web2py 3) you need 
to configure apache to point to the provided fcgihandler.py.
 

 2. Is having shell access a must for running web2py.


You don't but it is convenient for maintenance. All the hosts you listed 
have a shell.
 

 3. Will it be possible to run Web2Py on the main domain and Wordpress on 
 subdomain or vice versa with them.


That's an apache configuration issue. Yes you can. web2py does not care. If 
there is a path prefix you have to use routes.py to tell web2py to ignore 
the prefix.
 

 4. Whom to ask about WSGI setup? Is this a webshost specific question or 
 Web2Py specific.


That's a host specific issue. It is unlikely shared hosts will support it.
 

 If you think I have not asked the right questions, then please assume me 
 as a beginner in the hosting world and let me if there are any catches 
 about which I should be careful of.


As a rule of thumb, if they have instructions for any other python 
framework you can do it with web2py too. We can help you convert the 
instructions. All python frameworks use the same standard mechanisms to 
talk to web servers. web2py is actually easier than others because you do 
not need root privileges to install it nor you need virtualenv. We also 
support all adapters: wsgi, fcgi, scgi, cgi, mod_python (discouraged), 
isapi (windows only). The real issue is, if they don't allow wsgi, than 
probably you need to run web2py using fcgi. This means you need to run your 
own long running process. What tools do they offer to do that (start, 
monitor, restart). Moreover if you later need a third party module that 
requires sudo access, will they install it for you? If they are mostly a 
Ruby or PHP shop, they will not help you much.  I have worked with 
pythonanywhere.com and they were very helpful and responsive.

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