Re: [web2py] Re: Why not to mention support to Python3 on the official sites main page?

[Massimo Di Pierro]

Thanks! merged.

On Sunday, 19 August 2018 13:17:44 UTC-7, Nico Zanferrari wrote:
>
> Hi all, 
>
> I've made a  PR to update the Download page (
> https://github.com/web2py/web2py/pull/1976).  Also, another PR to update 
> the first chapters  of the book (
> https://github.com/web2py/web2py-book/pull/392) -
> with a specific new paragraph 1.8 = "Running web2py with Python 2 vs. 
> Python 3".
>
> Cheers,
> Nico  
>
> Il giorno lun 13 ago 2018 alle ore 14:05 Ari Lion BR Sp <
> arieh.so...@gmail.com> ha scritto:
>
>> Thank you Massimo,
>>
>> As our tests, Apps created in Py-3 work in Py-2 and vice-versa - only we 
>> need to delete "Sessions", and "databases" folder files for migrations 
>> (proceed fake_migrations_all) and app works.
>>
>> Thanks for this wondefull  Tool called Web2py.
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>>
>> Em domingo, 5 de agosto de 2018 22:33:13 UTC-3, Massimo Di Pierro 
>> escreveu:
>>>
>>> I agree. We should mention it. We should also say that "web2py runs with 
>>> pyhton 3 BUT web2py apps created with python 2 require web2py running under 
>>> python 2 and apps created using python 3 requires web2py running python 3. 
>>> They cannot be mixed."
>>>
>>> To some this will break the plug and play if they are not careful. Maybe 
>>> we should create a mechanism to automatically determine which version of 
>>> python was used to create an app.
>>>
>>> On Friday, 20 July 2018 18:53:08 UTC-7, Antonio Salazar wrote:

 I try to, as this is the only py2 app I support, but these months I've 
 been swamped with work. I'll resume testing in September.

 On Friday, July 20, 2018 at 9:06:46 AM UTC-5, Ari Lion BR Sp wrote:
>
> Hi Antonio Salazar,
>
> But if we do not test, we would not have how to fix BUGs. Maybe from 
> times to times test your whole app on Python3 and report bugs...
>
> Thanks
> Ari - Brazil
>
>
>
> Em quinta-feira, 19 de julho de 2018 19:38:15 UTC-3, Antonio Salazar 
> escreveu:
>>
>> Last April I downloaded the latest official stable release 
>> (2017-11-14) and adjusted all my code for Python 3. Unfortunately, two 
>> serious bugs in the streamer and scheduler made return to Python 2.
>>
>> Both bugs are fixed in Github, but I'm wary of trying it again until 
>> it's better tested on Python 3. Since no new stable release has been 
>> made 
>> in eight months, and the current one still has those bugs, I get the 
>> impression it's not stable yet.
>>
>>
>> On Monday, July 16, 2018 at 7:55:01 AM UTC-5, Ari Lion BR Sp wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I wonder here why Python3 support is not mentioned at the official 
>>> web2py's website?
>>>
>>> It is a very important feature which was not enough publicized, in 
>>> my opinion.
>>> It would improove marketing for the framework at least at our 
>>> Country, Brazil.
>>> Peoples colective memory here tends to remeber web2py only suports 
>>> python2.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ari
>>>
>> -- 
>> Resources:
>> - http://web2py.com
>> - http://web2py.com/book (Documentation)
>> - http://github.com/web2py/web2py (Source code)
>> - https://code.google.com/p/web2py/issues/list (Report Issues)
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Re: [web2py] Re: Why not to mention support to Python3 on the official sites main page?

[Nico Zanferrari]

Hi all,

I've made a  PR to update the Download page (
https://github.com/web2py/web2py/pull/1976).  Also, another PR to update
the first chapters  of the book (
https://github.com/web2py/web2py-book/pull/392) -
with a specific new paragraph 1.8 = "Running web2py with Python 2 vs.
Python 3".

Cheers,
Nico

Il giorno lun 13 ago 2018 alle ore 14:05 Ari Lion BR Sp <
arieh.so...@gmail.com> ha scritto:

> Thank you Massimo,
>
> As our tests, Apps created in Py-3 work in Py-2 and vice-versa - only we
> need to delete "Sessions", and "databases" folder files for migrations
> (proceed fake_migrations_all) and app works.
>
> Thanks for this wondefull  Tool called Web2py.
>
>
> Regards
>
>
> Em domingo, 5 de agosto de 2018 22:33:13 UTC-3, Massimo Di Pierro escreveu:
>>
>> I agree. We should mention it. We should also say that "web2py runs with
>> pyhton 3 BUT web2py apps created with python 2 require web2py running under
>> python 2 and apps created using python 3 requires web2py running python 3.
>> They cannot be mixed."
>>
>> To some this will break the plug and play if they are not careful. Maybe
>> we should create a mechanism to automatically determine which version of
>> python was used to create an app.
>>
>> On Friday, 20 July 2018 18:53:08 UTC-7, Antonio Salazar wrote:
>>>
>>> I try to, as this is the only py2 app I support, but these months I've
>>> been swamped with work. I'll resume testing in September.
>>>
>>> On Friday, July 20, 2018 at 9:06:46 AM UTC-5, Ari Lion BR Sp wrote:

 Hi Antonio Salazar,

 But if we do not test, we would not have how to fix BUGs. Maybe from
 times to times test your whole app on Python3 and report bugs...

 Thanks
 Ari - Brazil



 Em quinta-feira, 19 de julho de 2018 19:38:15 UTC-3, Antonio Salazar
 escreveu:
>
> Last April I downloaded the latest official stable release
> (2017-11-14) and adjusted all my code for Python 3. Unfortunately, two
> serious bugs in the streamer and scheduler made return to Python 2.
>
> Both bugs are fixed in Github, but I'm wary of trying it again until
> it's better tested on Python 3. Since no new stable release has been made
> in eight months, and the current one still has those bugs, I get the
> impression it's not stable yet.
>
>
> On Monday, July 16, 2018 at 7:55:01 AM UTC-5, Ari Lion BR Sp wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I wonder here why Python3 support is not mentioned at the official
>> web2py's website?
>>
>> It is a very important feature which was not enough publicized, in my
>> opinion.
>> It would improove marketing for the framework at least at our
>> Country, Brazil.
>> Peoples colective memory here tends to remeber web2py only suports
>> python2.
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ari
>>
> --
> Resources:
> - http://web2py.com
> - http://web2py.com/book (Documentation)
> - http://github.com/web2py/web2py (Source code)
> - https://code.google.com/p/web2py/issues/list (Report Issues)
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[web2py] Re: Why not to mention support to Python3 on the official sites main page?

[Ari Lion BR Sp]

Thank you Massimo,

As our tests, Apps created in Py-3 work in Py-2 and vice-versa - only we 
need to delete "Sessions", and "databases" folder files for migrations 
(proceed fake_migrations_all) and app works.

Thanks for this wondefull  Tool called Web2py.


Regards


Em domingo, 5 de agosto de 2018 22:33:13 UTC-3, Massimo Di Pierro escreveu:
>
> I agree. We should mention it. We should also say that "web2py runs with 
> pyhton 3 BUT web2py apps created with python 2 require web2py running under 
> python 2 and apps created using python 3 requires web2py running python 3. 
> They cannot be mixed."
>
> To some this will break the plug and play if they are not careful. Maybe 
> we should create a mechanism to automatically determine which version of 
> python was used to create an app.
>
> On Friday, 20 July 2018 18:53:08 UTC-7, Antonio Salazar wrote:
>>
>> I try to, as this is the only py2 app I support, but these months I've 
>> been swamped with work. I'll resume testing in September.
>>
>> On Friday, July 20, 2018 at 9:06:46 AM UTC-5, Ari Lion BR Sp wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Antonio Salazar,
>>>
>>> But if we do not test, we would not have how to fix BUGs. Maybe from 
>>> times to times test your whole app on Python3 and report bugs...
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Ari - Brazil
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Em quinta-feira, 19 de julho de 2018 19:38:15 UTC-3, Antonio Salazar 
>>> escreveu:

 Last April I downloaded the latest official stable release (2017-11-14) 
 and adjusted all my code for Python 3. Unfortunately, two serious bugs in 
 the streamer and scheduler made return to Python 2.

 Both bugs are fixed in Github, but I'm wary of trying it again until 
 it's better tested on Python 3. Since no new stable release has been made 
 in eight months, and the current one still has those bugs, I get the 
 impression it's not stable yet.


 On Monday, July 16, 2018 at 7:55:01 AM UTC-5, Ari Lion BR Sp wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I wonder here why Python3 support is not mentioned at the official 
> web2py's website?
>
> It is a very important feature which was not enough publicized, in my 
> opinion.
> It would improove marketing for the framework at least at our Country, 
> Brazil.
> Peoples colective memory here tends to remeber web2py only suports 
> python2.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Ari
>


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[web2py] Re: Why not to mention support to Python3 on the official sites main page?

[Massimo Di Pierro]

I agree. We should mention it. We should also say that "web2py runs with 
pyhton 3 BUT web2py apps created with python 2 require web2py running under 
python 2 and apps created using python 3 requires web2py running python 3. 
They cannot be mixed."

To some this will break the plug and play if they are not careful. Maybe we 
should create a mechanism to automatically determine which version of 
python was used to create an app.

On Friday, 20 July 2018 18:53:08 UTC-7, Antonio Salazar wrote:
>
> I try to, as this is the only py2 app I support, but these months I've 
> been swamped with work. I'll resume testing in September.
>
> On Friday, July 20, 2018 at 9:06:46 AM UTC-5, Ari Lion BR Sp wrote:
>>
>> Hi Antonio Salazar,
>>
>> But if we do not test, we would not have how to fix BUGs. Maybe from 
>> times to times test your whole app on Python3 and report bugs...
>>
>> Thanks
>> Ari - Brazil
>>
>>
>>
>> Em quinta-feira, 19 de julho de 2018 19:38:15 UTC-3, Antonio Salazar 
>> escreveu:
>>>
>>> Last April I downloaded the latest official stable release (2017-11-14) 
>>> and adjusted all my code for Python 3. Unfortunately, two serious bugs in 
>>> the streamer and scheduler made return to Python 2.
>>>
>>> Both bugs are fixed in Github, but I'm wary of trying it again until 
>>> it's better tested on Python 3. Since no new stable release has been made 
>>> in eight months, and the current one still has those bugs, I get the 
>>> impression it's not stable yet.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, July 16, 2018 at 7:55:01 AM UTC-5, Ari Lion BR Sp wrote:

 Hi,

 I wonder here why Python3 support is not mentioned at the official 
 web2py's website?

 It is a very important feature which was not enough publicized, in my 
 opinion.
 It would improove marketing for the framework at least at our Country, 
 Brazil.
 Peoples colective memory here tends to remeber web2py only suports 
 python2.


 Thanks,
 Ari

>>>

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[web2py] Re: Why not to mention support to Python3 on the official sites main page?

[Antonio Salazar]

I try to, as this is the only py2 app I support, but these months I've been 
swamped with work. I'll resume testing in September.

On Friday, July 20, 2018 at 9:06:46 AM UTC-5, Ari Lion BR Sp wrote:
>
> Hi Antonio Salazar,
>
> But if we do not test, we would not have how to fix BUGs. Maybe from times 
> to times test your whole app on Python3 and report bugs...
>
> Thanks
> Ari - Brazil
>
>
>
> Em quinta-feira, 19 de julho de 2018 19:38:15 UTC-3, Antonio Salazar 
> escreveu:
>>
>> Last April I downloaded the latest official stable release (2017-11-14) 
>> and adjusted all my code for Python 3. Unfortunately, two serious bugs in 
>> the streamer and scheduler made return to Python 2.
>>
>> Both bugs are fixed in Github, but I'm wary of trying it again until it's 
>> better tested on Python 3. Since no new stable release has been made in 
>> eight months, and the current one still has those bugs, I get the 
>> impression it's not stable yet.
>>
>>
>> On Monday, July 16, 2018 at 7:55:01 AM UTC-5, Ari Lion BR Sp wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I wonder here why Python3 support is not mentioned at the official 
>>> web2py's website?
>>>
>>> It is a very important feature which was not enough publicized, in my 
>>> opinion.
>>> It would improove marketing for the framework at least at our Country, 
>>> Brazil.
>>> Peoples colective memory here tends to remeber web2py only suports 
>>> python2.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ari
>>>
>>

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[web2py] Re: Why not to mention support to Python3 on the official sites main page?

[Ari Lion BR Sp]

Hi Antonio Salazar,

But if we do not test, we would not have how to fix BUGs. Maybe from times 
to times test your whole app on Python3 and report bugs...

Thanks
Ari - Brazil



Em quinta-feira, 19 de julho de 2018 19:38:15 UTC-3, Antonio Salazar 
escreveu:
>
> Last April I downloaded the latest official stable release (2017-11-14) 
> and adjusted all my code for Python 3. Unfortunately, two serious bugs in 
> the streamer and scheduler made return to Python 2.
>
> Both bugs are fixed in Github, but I'm wary of trying it again until it's 
> better tested on Python 3. Since no new stable release has been made in 
> eight months, and the current one still has those bugs, I get the 
> impression it's not stable yet.
>
>
> On Monday, July 16, 2018 at 7:55:01 AM UTC-5, Ari Lion BR Sp wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I wonder here why Python3 support is not mentioned at the official 
>> web2py's website?
>>
>> It is a very important feature which was not enough publicized, in my 
>> opinion.
>> It would improove marketing for the framework at least at our Country, 
>> Brazil.
>> Peoples colective memory here tends to remeber web2py only suports 
>> python2.
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ari
>>
>

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[web2py] Re: Why not to mention support to Python3 on the official sites main page?

[Antonio Salazar]

Last April I downloaded the latest official stable release (2017-11-14) and 
adjusted all my code for Python 3. Unfortunately, two serious bugs in the 
streamer and scheduler made return to Python 2.

Both bugs are fixed in Github, but I'm wary of trying it again until it's 
better tested on Python 3. Since no new stable release has been made in 
eight months, ad the current one still has those bugs, I get the impression 
it's not stable yet.


On Monday, July 16, 2018 at 7:55:01 AM UTC-5, Ari Lion BR Sp wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I wonder here why Python3 support is not mentioned at the official 
> web2py's website?
>
> It is a very important feature which was not enough publicized, in my 
> opinion.
> It would improove marketing for the framework at least at our Country, 
> Brazil.
> Peoples colective memory here tends to remeber web2py only suports python2.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Ari
>

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[web2py] Re: Why not to mention support to Python3 on the official sites main page?

[Ari Lion BR Sp]

That's awesome.

Em quarta-feira, 18 de julho de 2018 23:37:29 UTC-3, Anthony escreveu:
>
> Do you have tested python3?
>>
>
> Note, we do have passing tests, at least through Python 3.6: 
> https://travis-ci.org/web2py/web2py
>

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[web2py] Re: Why not to mention support to Python3 on the official sites main page?

[Anthony]

>
> Do you have tested python3?
>

Note, we do have passing tests, at least through Python 
3.6: https://travis-ci.org/web2py/web2py

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[web2py] Re: Why not to mention support to Python3 on the official sites main page?

[Anthony]

>
> I can testify that perfomance improoves a lot. Whats lacking for official 
> support announcement?
>

I believe support is official -- we just need to make the updates to the 
site and documentation.

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Re: [web2py] Re: Why not to mention support to Python3 on the official sites main page?

[Marcelo Huerta]

El mar., 17 jul. 2018 a las 13:54, Ari Lion BR Sp ()
escribió:

> Thanks Marcelo Huerta  / Anthony.
>
> Do you have tested python3?
>

​I don't have the infrastructure to perform testing best performed by the
development team...​


>
> I can testify that perfomance improoves a lot. Whats lacking for official
> support announcement?
>

​Prominent mention in all documentation and ​a working test site would be
nice. There are several podcasts and web sites which could be happily
informed about web2py if those things were updated and working...


> Is there a list of issues for use under Python3?
>

​I would like to know this too.

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[web2py] Re: Why not to mention support to Python3 on the official sites main page?

[Ari Lion BR Sp]

Thanks Marcelo Huerta  / Anthony.

Do you have tested python3?

I can testify that perfomance improoves a lot. Whats lacking for official 
support announcement?
Is there a list of issues for use under Python3?

Thanks again,
*Ari - Brazil*
https://t.me/web2pybrasil (Brazillian Telegram Group)


Em terça-feira, 17 de julho de 2018 13:14:35 UTC-3, Anthony escreveu:
>
> It is mentioned here , but should be 
> updated here  and in the first 
> three chapters of the book. Note, these updates can be made via pull 
> requests to https://github.com/web2py/web2py (for the website, which is 
> the "examples" app in the Github repo) and 
> https://github.com/web2py/web2py-book (for the book -- there are mentions 
> of Python 2.7 in each of the first three chapters).
>
> Anthony
>
> On Monday, July 16, 2018 at 8:55:01 AM UTC-4, Ari Lion BR Sp wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I wonder here why Python3 support is not mentioned at the official 
>> web2py's website?
>>
>> It is a very important feature which was not enough publicized, in my 
>> opinion.
>> It would improove marketing for the framework at least at our Country, 
>> Brazil.
>> Peoples colective memory here tends to remeber web2py only suports 
>> python2.
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ari
>>
>

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[web2py] Re: Why not to mention support to Python3 on the official sites main page?

[Anthony]

It is mentioned here , but should be 
updated here  and in the first 
three chapters of the book. Note, these updates can be made via pull 
requests to https://github.com/web2py/web2py (for the website, which is the 
"examples" app in the Github repo) 
and https://github.com/web2py/web2py-book (for the book -- there are 
mentions of Python 2.7 in each of the first three chapters).

Anthony

On Monday, July 16, 2018 at 8:55:01 AM UTC-4, Ari Lion BR Sp wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I wonder here why Python3 support is not mentioned at the official 
> web2py's website?
>
> It is a very important feature which was not enough publicized, in my 
> opinion.
> It would improove marketing for the framework at least at our Country, 
> Brazil.
> Peoples colective memory here tends to remeber web2py only suports python2.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Ari
>

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Re: [web2py] Re: Why not to mention support to Python3 on the official sites main page?

[Ari Sobel]

I have been using *web2py *on *Python3 *for almost a *year*, with *no
apparent issues.*

My script to install it with nginx (adaptation from original - please fork
and contribute):
https://github.com/arisobel/web2py_scripts/blob/master/setup-web2py-nginx-p3-uwsgi-ubuntu.sh

Ask everyone to try it. web2py  can grow a lot witrh this visibility.


thanks for all guys working for this wonderful framework.


*Ari - Brazil*
https://t.me/web2pybrasil

Em ter, 17 de jul de 2018 às 12:21, Marcelo Huerta 
escreveu:

> El lunes, 16 de julio de 2018, 9:55:01 (UTC-3), Ari Lion BR Sp escribió:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I wonder here why Python3 support is not mentioned at the official
>> web2py's website?
>>
>>
> I also wonder this. I think it might be because web2py hasn't been 100% in
> Python3?
>
> This is one of the issues which prevents further visibility of the
> framework (other that I think is also important is that the demo site
> doesn't work; if this could be made to work, preferable on Python 3, it
> would be very useful).
>
> --
> Marcelo
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> - http://web2py.com
> - http://web2py.com/book (Documentation)
> - http://github.com/web2py/web2py (Source code)
> - https://code.google.com/p/web2py/issues/list (Report Issues)
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[web2py] Re: Why not to mention support to Python3 on the official sites main page?

[Marcelo Huerta]

El lunes, 16 de julio de 2018, 9:55:01 (UTC-3), Ari Lion BR Sp escribió:
>
> Hi,
>
> I wonder here why Python3 support is not mentioned at the official 
> web2py's website?
>
>
I also wonder this. I think it might be because web2py hasn't been 100% in 
Python3?

This is one of the issues which prevents further visibility of the 
framework (other that I think is also important is that the demo site 
doesn't work; if this could be made to work, preferable on Python 3, it 
would be very useful).

-- 
Marcelo 

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