[web2py] Re: Would there be an advantage to having more discussion on Stackoverflow?
On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 3:13:04 PM UTC-7, Ben Lawrence wrote: So, I am wondering how the web2py developers feel about StackOverflow? My understanding is that web2py questions should be asked here at web2py-users... is it because there is some commercial gain (advertising) at SO? I don't mind using either... More likely it is, as Anthony hints at below, most of the power users are over here, and there's less monitoring of SO by those who know answers. Build up the core group a little larger, and splitting it's attention will be easier. /dps On Thursday, October 6, 2011 at 9:39:38 AM UTC-7, Anthony wrote: Well, it's possible that at some point Google Groups will include QA functionality, as alluded to at the end of this announcement: https://groups.google.com/d/topic/googlegroups-announce/2ccywee6dE4/discussion . The idea for the new web2pyslices.com was that it would include QA functionality as well, though not sure if/when to expect that. As already noted, one benefit of SO is that it increases the public exposure of web2py. I try to monitor it and answer questions, but it's not quite as easy to stay on top of posts -- even though I'm following the web2py tag, it typically takes from several hours up to a full day before I receive email alerts about new questions posted. Anthony On Thursday, October 6, 2011 11:39:56 AM UTC-4, monotasker wrote: I may be different than others, but SO is usually the first place I go with questions. I asked my first couple of web2py questions on SO and then was steered here. Massimo seems to point people here quite deliberately when they post questions on SO, and the web2py site (as well as the book) points people here as *the* place for support and discussion. So I suspect that simply stating that SO is the preferred forum for how-to and problem-solving questions would largely do the trick. I do see what you mean about possibly dissipating answers. I guess the issue would be having to watch two forums instead of one. I wonder whether that's why Massimo has emphasized this group as a one-stop-shop--so that it's a more manageable workflow for him. As the community grows, though, I wonder whether a shift will actually help to reduce the noise of repeated answers. Yes, it's easy to filter questions here. But I find that I still often have to read through scores of answers before realizing that my particular question hasn't been answered yet. -- Resources: - http://web2py.com - http://web2py.com/book (Documentation) - http://github.com/web2py/web2py (Source code) - https://code.google.com/p/web2py/issues/list (Report Issues) --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups web2py-users group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[web2py] Re: Would there be an advantage to having more discussion on Stackoverflow?
So, I am wondering how the web2py developers feel about StackOverflow? My understanding is that web2py questions should be asked here at web2py-users... is it because there is some commercial gain (advertising) at SO? I don't mind using either... On Thursday, October 6, 2011 at 9:39:38 AM UTC-7, Anthony wrote: Well, it's possible that at some point Google Groups will include QA functionality, as alluded to at the end of this announcement: https://groups.google.com/d/topic/googlegroups-announce/2ccywee6dE4/discussion . The idea for the new web2pyslices.com was that it would include QA functionality as well, though not sure if/when to expect that. As already noted, one benefit of SO is that it increases the public exposure of web2py. I try to monitor it and answer questions, but it's not quite as easy to stay on top of posts -- even though I'm following the web2py tag, it typically takes from several hours up to a full day before I receive email alerts about new questions posted. Anthony On Thursday, October 6, 2011 11:39:56 AM UTC-4, monotasker wrote: I may be different than others, but SO is usually the first place I go with questions. I asked my first couple of web2py questions on SO and then was steered here. Massimo seems to point people here quite deliberately when they post questions on SO, and the web2py site (as well as the book) points people here as *the* place for support and discussion. So I suspect that simply stating that SO is the preferred forum for how-to and problem-solving questions would largely do the trick. I do see what you mean about possibly dissipating answers. I guess the issue would be having to watch two forums instead of one. I wonder whether that's why Massimo has emphasized this group as a one-stop-shop--so that it's a more manageable workflow for him. As the community grows, though, I wonder whether a shift will actually help to reduce the noise of repeated answers. Yes, it's easy to filter questions here. But I find that I still often have to read through scores of answers before realizing that my particular question hasn't been answered yet. -- Resources: - http://web2py.com - http://web2py.com/book (Documentation) - http://github.com/web2py/web2py (Source code) - https://code.google.com/p/web2py/issues/list (Report Issues) --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups web2py-users group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[web2py] Re: Would there be an advantage to having more discussion on Stackoverflow?
On Wed, 5 Oct 2011 17:17:32 -0700 (PDT) James M. sipajah...@gmail.com wrote: There is alot of activity on this newsgroup, which can make it challenging to find answers to previously asked questions... signal to noise mismatch. Hmm...I'm total noob here and can easily select/filter threads that speaks about the stuff which is above my head. Otoh, I believe that extracting FAQ entries from the newsgroup would serve better than another SO forum...considering that certain topics are already answered. Sincerely, Gour -- “In the material world, conceptions of good and bad are all mental speculations…” (Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu) http://atmarama.net | Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: 52B5C810 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[web2py] Re: Would there be an advantage to having more discussion on Stackoverflow?
On one hand, that might be beneficial. On the other, it may dissipate and slow down answers. How do you really steer people there anyway?
[web2py] Re: Would there be an advantage to having more discussion on Stackoverflow?
I may be different than others, but SO is usually the first place I go with questions. I asked my first couple of web2py questions on SO and then was steered here. Massimo seems to point people here quite deliberately when they post questions on SO, and the web2py site (as well as the book) points people here as *the* place for support and discussion. So I suspect that simply stating that SO is the preferred forum for how-to and problem-solving questions would largely do the trick. I do see what you mean about possibly dissipating answers. I guess the issue would be having to watch two forums instead of one. I wonder whether that's why Massimo has emphasized this group as a one-stop-shop--so that it's a more manageable workflow for him. As the community grows, though, I wonder whether a shift will actually help to reduce the noise of repeated answers. Yes, it's easy to filter questions here. But I find that I still often have to read through scores of answers before realizing that my particular question hasn't been answered yet.
[web2py] Re: Would there be an advantage to having more discussion on Stackoverflow?
Well, it's possible that at some point Google Groups will include QA functionality, as alluded to at the end of this announcement: https://groups.google.com/d/topic/googlegroups-announce/2ccywee6dE4/discussion. The idea for the new web2pyslices.com was that it would include QA functionality as well, though not sure if/when to expect that. As already noted, one benefit of SO is that it increases the public exposure of web2py. I try to monitor it and answer questions, but it's not quite as easy to stay on top of posts -- even though I'm following the web2py tag, it typically takes from several hours up to a full day before I receive email alerts about new questions posted. Anthony On Thursday, October 6, 2011 11:39:56 AM UTC-4, monotasker wrote: I may be different than others, but SO is usually the first place I go with questions. I asked my first couple of web2py questions on SO and then was steered here. Massimo seems to point people here quite deliberately when they post questions on SO, and the web2py site (as well as the book) points people here as *the* place for support and discussion. So I suspect that simply stating that SO is the preferred forum for how-to and problem-solving questions would largely do the trick. I do see what you mean about possibly dissipating answers. I guess the issue would be having to watch two forums instead of one. I wonder whether that's why Massimo has emphasized this group as a one-stop-shop--so that it's a more manageable workflow for him. As the community grows, though, I wonder whether a shift will actually help to reduce the noise of repeated answers. Yes, it's easy to filter questions here. But I find that I still often have to read through scores of answers before realizing that my particular question hasn't been answered yet.
[web2py] Re: Would there be an advantage to having more discussion on Stackoverflow?
I believe the community would be better served by using Stackoverflow for QA and using the newsgroups for non QA freeform discussions/ news. I think this would seperate and emphasize the highly reusable information, QA, from the often transient/limited use information/ discussion. There is alot of activity on this newsgroup, which can make it challenging to find answers to previously asked questions... signal to noise mismatch. On Oct 5, 8:26 am, monotasker scotti...@gmail.com wrote: I've been using web2py for about six weeks now and am loving the supportive community. I notice that there's a strong push to focus that community discussion here on the Google group. I wonder if this has some disadvantages, though: a) It seems difficult sometimes to find previous discussions of the same issue. So I suspect people are answering the same question more than they need to sometimes. Here it seems like Stackoverflow helps to streamline the support process. b) The focus on the Google group means that the web2py name isn't popping up as often in mixed forums like Stackoverflow. I think that creates the impression that web2py has fewer users than it really does. So would there be some value in encouraging people to direct specific support questions to Stackoverflow and reserving the Google group for things like announcements, open-ended discussion, threads about resources and hosting, etc? Ian
