Re: [web2py] Re: Vote for a new logo
A feature request for the logovote website (a simple one). At the top of each candidate is its id number. Would you please format that this way: #14. (with a leading # and a trailing period). That way we can do a simple browser search for a candidate by id number, without getting a lot of false positives from dates and such. The trailing period is to prevent false positives when searching for single-digit ids. Thanks.
Re: [web2py] Re: Vote for a new logo
On Oct 18, 2010, at 7:16 AM, Anthony wrote: > > I agree with Bruno's thoughts on the current logo (i.e., #5 and #17 on > the logovote site). It is based on Massimo's thoughtful design concept > -- if you missed his message about it, you can read it here: > http://groups.google.com/group/web2py/msg/dc9b9c33246c985b > > - It is straightforward, broadly appealing, and professional. > - It includes some nice subtle symbolism, particularly the > "overlapping characters to represent tight integration of web2py > components" (which is a real distinctive of web2py). > - It has already received positive public feedback. > - It already has a range of color variations, stickers, and a favicon > that work well (see "web2py artwork" at the bottom of > http://www.web2py.com/examples/default/download). > > There are some promising concepts among the other logo entries, but I > don't think any are as refined or production-ready as this one. It seems to me that we could use these criteria generally to pare down the candidates. There are several that follow this general approach and don't need a lot of work for application (color schemes can be shared, of course). I do like the concept; I'm not entirely satisfied with the letterforms of the current logo.
Re: [web2py] Re: Vote for a new logo
Perfect! it is UPPER case in logo, but lower case in title. Just what we have today in the main website! 2010/10/18 Bruno Rocha > Note that in book cover: http://www.setbit.us/IMG_0108.JPG > > WEB2PY is UPPER CASE too! > > 2010/10/18 Bruno Rocha > > The Dealine is still 19 for send logos, and 21 for vote. >> >> That is the round 1, we can have round 2 with the 10 best voted, one week >> more for the second round, No uploads just votes. >> >> For the second round we can change rules and implement some new ideas as >> commented here. >> >> -- >> >> BTW: I keep the track of "web2py" in twitter, identica, orkut, facebook, >> reddit, googleAlerts, etc.. >> 99% of the people, when talking about web2py, are talking about the new >> visual stylle. >> >> Everyone likes that, and that already is the new face of web2py, I think >> if we have to change, dont have to change too much ( I like this idea >> http://blouweb.com/logovote/default/index?logoid=17 ) It keeps the >> actual style and gives us an Icon (that could be improved). I think it is >> clean, beauty, soothing enought and enterprise as well. >> >> There are other important things about this logo (17 or 5), it is nice >> with any background, the main idea came from Massimo, it differs web2py from >> web.py, It is easy to draw, easy to print, easy to remember. >> >> The upper case in that is more closer to WEB2PY (because we have DAL, DIV, >> FORM..) >> >> In the beggining it is strange to switch from web2py to WEB2PY, but IMO >> UPPER case fits better in for logo, and everyone will differ web.py form >> WEB2PY. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 2010/10/17 Anthony >> >> So, what's happening with the voting method? As already discussed at >>> length, the one-vote-per-person method isn't a good idea with so many >>> entries (particularly with sets of similar logos). For example, #5 and >>> #17 are probably splitting votes. >>> >>> We really should implement one of the other suggested methods: >>> * Approval Voting (vote for as many logos as you want): Probably the >>> easiest to implement, and should handle the "clone" problem. (Still >>> need the ability to change one's vote(s)). >>> * Ratings: Though for this to work, either everyone has to rate every >>> logo, or for each voter, each un-rated logo has to be assigned the >>> lowest possible value (e.g., 1 star). >>> * Ranking: Preferably using the Schulze method for tallying. Probably >>> the most complex to implement. >>> >>> If we're not going to do any of the above, then at the very least, we >>> should go back to showing the _number_ of votes for each logo (no need >>> to show the names -- they should remain anonymous). That way, at least >>> we could see if we are splitting (and possibly wasting) our votes and >>> then shift our support to a logo we like that has a chance of winning. >>> >>> If we stick with the current voting method, with 50+ logos, we could >>> easily end up with a "winner" that gets the support of only a small >>> percentage of the voters. >>> >>> Also, is the voting deadline still Oct. 19? >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> Anthony >>> >>> On Oct 13, 5:17 pm, Bruno Rocha wrote: >>> > Martin Mulone made the logovote application. >>> > >>> > I am hosting at my server >>> > >>> > You can post logo ideas, and vote for you prefered logo. >>> > >>> > Better if you made an transparent canvas .gif or .png maximum 250x70 >>> > >>> > Maximum of 10 uploads per user, Just one vote per user. >>> > >>> > Take a look:http://blouweb.com/logovote/ >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> http://rochacbruno.com.br >> > > > > -- > > http://rochacbruno.com.br > -- http://rochacbruno.com.br
Re: [web2py] Re: Vote for a new logo
Note that in book cover: http://www.setbit.us/IMG_0108.JPG WEB2PY is UPPER CASE too! 2010/10/18 Bruno Rocha > The Dealine is still 19 for send logos, and 21 for vote. > > That is the round 1, we can have round 2 with the 10 best voted, one week > more for the second round, No uploads just votes. > > For the second round we can change rules and implement some new ideas as > commented here. > > -- > > BTW: I keep the track of "web2py" in twitter, identica, orkut, facebook, > reddit, googleAlerts, etc.. > 99% of the people, when talking about web2py, are talking about the new > visual stylle. > > Everyone likes that, and that already is the new face of web2py, I think if > we have to change, dont have to change too much ( I like this idea > http://blouweb.com/logovote/default/index?logoid=17 ) It keeps the actual > style and gives us an Icon (that could be improved). I think it is clean, > beauty, soothing enought and enterprise as well. > > There are other important things about this logo (17 or 5), it is nice with > any background, the main idea came from Massimo, it differs web2py from > web.py, It is easy to draw, easy to print, easy to remember. > > The upper case in that is more closer to WEB2PY (because we have DAL, DIV, > FORM..) > > In the beggining it is strange to switch from web2py to WEB2PY, but IMO > UPPER case fits better in for logo, and everyone will differ web.py form > WEB2PY. > > > > > > > > > > 2010/10/17 Anthony > > So, what's happening with the voting method? As already discussed at >> length, the one-vote-per-person method isn't a good idea with so many >> entries (particularly with sets of similar logos). For example, #5 and >> #17 are probably splitting votes. >> >> We really should implement one of the other suggested methods: >> * Approval Voting (vote for as many logos as you want): Probably the >> easiest to implement, and should handle the "clone" problem. (Still >> need the ability to change one's vote(s)). >> * Ratings: Though for this to work, either everyone has to rate every >> logo, or for each voter, each un-rated logo has to be assigned the >> lowest possible value (e.g., 1 star). >> * Ranking: Preferably using the Schulze method for tallying. Probably >> the most complex to implement. >> >> If we're not going to do any of the above, then at the very least, we >> should go back to showing the _number_ of votes for each logo (no need >> to show the names -- they should remain anonymous). That way, at least >> we could see if we are splitting (and possibly wasting) our votes and >> then shift our support to a logo we like that has a chance of winning. >> >> If we stick with the current voting method, with 50+ logos, we could >> easily end up with a "winner" that gets the support of only a small >> percentage of the voters. >> >> Also, is the voting deadline still Oct. 19? >> >> Thanks. >> >> Anthony >> >> On Oct 13, 5:17 pm, Bruno Rocha wrote: >> > Martin Mulone made the logovote application. >> > >> > I am hosting at my server >> > >> > You can post logo ideas, and vote for you prefered logo. >> > >> > Better if you made an transparent canvas .gif or .png maximum 250x70 >> > >> > Maximum of 10 uploads per user, Just one vote per user. >> > >> > Take a look:http://blouweb.com/logovote/ >> > > > > -- > > http://rochacbruno.com.br > -- http://rochacbruno.com.br
Re: [web2py] Re: Vote for a new logo
The Dealine is still 19 for send logos, and 21 for vote. That is the round 1, we can have round 2 with the 10 best voted, one week more for the second round, No uploads just votes. For the second round we can change rules and implement some new ideas as commented here. -- BTW: I keep the track of "web2py" in twitter, identica, orkut, facebook, reddit, googleAlerts, etc.. 99% of the people, when talking about web2py, are talking about the new visual stylle. Everyone likes that, and that already is the new face of web2py, I think if we have to change, dont have to change too much ( I like this idea http://blouweb.com/logovote/default/index?logoid=17 ) It keeps the actual style and gives us an Icon (that could be improved). I think it is clean, beauty, soothing enought and enterprise as well. There are other important things about this logo (17 or 5), it is nice with any background, the main idea came from Massimo, it differs web2py from web.py, It is easy to draw, easy to print, easy to remember. The upper case in that is more closer to WEB2PY (because we have DAL, DIV, FORM..) In the beggining it is strange to switch from web2py to WEB2PY, but IMO UPPER case fits better in for logo, and everyone will differ web.py form WEB2PY. 2010/10/17 Anthony > So, what's happening with the voting method? As already discussed at > length, the one-vote-per-person method isn't a good idea with so many > entries (particularly with sets of similar logos). For example, #5 and > #17 are probably splitting votes. > > We really should implement one of the other suggested methods: > * Approval Voting (vote for as many logos as you want): Probably the > easiest to implement, and should handle the "clone" problem. (Still > need the ability to change one's vote(s)). > * Ratings: Though for this to work, either everyone has to rate every > logo, or for each voter, each un-rated logo has to be assigned the > lowest possible value (e.g., 1 star). > * Ranking: Preferably using the Schulze method for tallying. Probably > the most complex to implement. > > If we're not going to do any of the above, then at the very least, we > should go back to showing the _number_ of votes for each logo (no need > to show the names -- they should remain anonymous). That way, at least > we could see if we are splitting (and possibly wasting) our votes and > then shift our support to a logo we like that has a chance of winning. > > If we stick with the current voting method, with 50+ logos, we could > easily end up with a "winner" that gets the support of only a small > percentage of the voters. > > Also, is the voting deadline still Oct. 19? > > Thanks. > > Anthony > > On Oct 13, 5:17 pm, Bruno Rocha wrote: > > Martin Mulone made the logovote application. > > > > I am hosting at my server > > > > You can post logo ideas, and vote for you prefered logo. > > > > Better if you made an transparent canvas .gif or .png maximum 250x70 > > > > Maximum of 10 uploads per user, Just one vote per user. > > > > Take a look:http://blouweb.com/logovote/ > -- http://rochacbruno.com.br
Re: [web2py] Re: Vote for a new logo
I solved the problem with upload link, that was a typo, there is a function clalled pretty_exception, and upload was calling pretty_expeptions But, that was called because you already uploades 10 logos, the system allows just 10 by user. 2010/10/17 weheh > Upload link still causes ticket. Anybody else see this? -- http://rochacbruno.com.br
Re: [web2py] Re: Vote for a new logo
On Oct 17, 2010, at 12:36 PM, weheh wrote: > > http://blouweb.com/logovote/default/upload > > generates the following: > > Ticket issued: logovote/ > 98.111.199.220.2010-10-17.14-35-18.b31075d8-6abf-4561-a51b- > a747cf2c9c95 Just visiting the URL? Or later in the upload process? Presumably some admin ought to have a look at the ticket > > On Oct 17, 2:49 pm, Jonathan Lundell wrote: >> On Oct 17, 2010, at 11:43 AM, weheh wrote: >> >> >> >>> Logovote upload still not working. Ticket issued when upload button is >>> clicked. >> >> I just did a successful upload, fwiw. Haven't seen any tickets. >> >> >> >>> On Oct 14, 12:32 pm, Bruno Rocha wrote: One more time we could use reddishhttp://web2py.appspot.com/withsome modifications. >> 2010/10/14 Jonathan Lundell >> > On Oct 14, 2010, at 8:52 AM, Bruno Rocha wrote: >> > I am working to have ordering options [ number of votes - date submitted ] > I will hide the name of the voters, and show only the vote counter > Include a box for comment on every logo > and possibility to the user for edit or delete uploades logos. >> > Voting is an interesting problem. Since this is something of an informal > beauty contest, it can be fairly casual, but done right, it could be a > useful plugin. >> > One refinement that would be useful in such a plugin is to allow voters to > rank their choices, or otherwise express something more than a single vote > for a single candidate. >> > At the moment, #8 and #17 have one vote each. But it's reasonable to > assume > that those voters would also like #5, on which 8 & 17 are based. I'm > partial > to my own design, but I have definite preferences among the others. Some > of > the logos are slight variations on a theme, and a voter might like to > express a preference for the theme rather than any specific logo. Etc. >> > A minor point: when the voters become anonymous, there should be some > indication to a logged-in user whether they've voted, and if so for what. >> > As I have few free time during my work day, If anyone could help with > that, > I am putting the source on BitBucket. >> > 2010/10/14 weheh >> >> Thadeus - I disagree with the randomization. Submissions should be >> sortable by vote count, date submitted, or submitter. Voter anonymity >> is probably a good idea. >> > -- >> > http://rochacbruno.com.br >> -- >> http://rochacbruno.com.br >> >>
Re: [web2py] Re: Vote for a new logo
On Oct 17, 2010, at 11:43 AM, weheh wrote: > > Logovote upload still not working. Ticket issued when upload button is > clicked. I just did a successful upload, fwiw. Haven't seen any tickets. > > On Oct 14, 12:32 pm, Bruno Rocha wrote: >> One more time we could use reddishhttp://web2py.appspot.com/with some >> modifications. >> >> 2010/10/14 Jonathan Lundell >> >> >> >>> On Oct 14, 2010, at 8:52 AM, Bruno Rocha wrote: >> >>> I am working to have ordering options [ number of votes - date submitted ] >>> I will hide the name of the voters, and show only the vote counter >>> Include a box for comment on every logo >>> and possibility to the user for edit or delete uploades logos. >> >>> Voting is an interesting problem. Since this is something of an informal >>> beauty contest, it can be fairly casual, but done right, it could be a >>> useful plugin. >> >>> One refinement that would be useful in such a plugin is to allow voters to >>> rank their choices, or otherwise express something more than a single vote >>> for a single candidate. >> >>> At the moment, #8 and #17 have one vote each. But it's reasonable to assume >>> that those voters would also like #5, on which 8 & 17 are based. I'm partial >>> to my own design, but I have definite preferences among the others. Some of >>> the logos are slight variations on a theme, and a voter might like to >>> express a preference for the theme rather than any specific logo. Etc. >> >>> A minor point: when the voters become anonymous, there should be some >>> indication to a logged-in user whether they've voted, and if so for what. >> >>> As I have few free time during my work day, If anyone could help with that, >>> I am putting the source on BitBucket. >> >>> 2010/10/14 weheh >> Thadeus - I disagree with the randomization. Submissions should be sortable by vote count, date submitted, or submitter. Voter anonymity is probably a good idea. >> >>> -- >> >>> http://rochacbruno.com.br >> >> -- >> >> http://rochacbruno.com.br
Re: [web2py] Re: Vote for a new logo
I just made a test http://blouweb.com/logovote/default/index?logoid=95 It works well, I am going to delete my test. 2010/10/15 weheh > logovote uploading capability is broken. -- http://rochacbruno.com.br
Re: [web2py] Re: Vote for a new logo
@Bruno excellent work! 2010/10/15 Bruno Rocha : > 2010/10/15 weheh >> >> Bruno Rocha - could you modify display page to be more gallery style >> rather than inline? I don't think we need to see the banner buttons >> for every logo. Thx for the good work. >> > > DONE: http://www.blouweb.com/logovote/default/index
Re: [web2py] Re: Vote for a new logo
2010/10/15 weheh > Bruno Rocha - could you modify display page to be more gallery style > rather than inline? I don't think we need to see the banner buttons > for every logo. Thx for the good work. > > DONE: http://www.blouweb.com/logovote/default/index
Re: [web2py] Re: Vote for a new logo
2010/10/15 dustin.b > why is the deadline so early? i really want to post some logos, but it > was not possible to really think about some designs and finally create > some.. I do not know, I just picked a date that was not too long. Massimo should decide a better date for this deadline, but we need a deadline. To be honest, I have chosen 19th because I wanted to put the new logo in my presentation for PyconBrazil that starts 20th -- http://rochacbruno.com.br
Re: [web2py] Re: Vote for a new logo
On Oct 14, 2010, at 11:03 PM, Bruno Rocha wrote: > Comments are working now, lets test and comment on some logos! > > http://www.blouweb.com/logovote Thanks. A request: could we have a textarea for comment entry, please?
Re: [web2py] Re: Vote for a new logo
I added your comment and some more important info to
http://www.blouweb.com/logovote/default/upload
2010/10/15 mdipierro
> I will add some comments here.
>
> 1) It is important to avoid brand confusion with web.py (the two has
> to be visible)
> 2) It is not a good idea to have a logo that looks like it is falling
> apart
> 3) As much as I may like snakes, I am not convinced reptiles convey a
> professional image.
>
> Even if a logo may not be appropriate for the official site... many of
> these logos are really good and should be put to use. We have web2py-
> utils, web2pyslices, etc. and we will have more sites to come. We can
> keep a common page layout and use different logos.
>
> Massimo
>
> On Oct 15, 1:03 am, Bruno Rocha wrote:
> > Comments are working now, lets test and comment on some logos!
> >
> > http://www.blouweb.com/logovote
> >
> > 2010/10/15 mdipierro
> >
> > > I agree. The one Martin made is good but ...
> >
> > > 1) should made to run on GAE
> > > 2) should use RPX for login
> > > 3) should provide multiple lists of logos for multiple companies
> > > 4) should sort logos and vote with rating [*] (plugin rating?)
> > > 5) allow visitor to comment on logos
> > > {{=plugin_wiki.widget('comment','logo',id)}}
> >
> >
>
--
http://rochacbruno.com.br
Re: [web2py] Re: Vote for a new logo
Comments are working now, lets test and comment on some logos!
http://www.blouweb.com/logovote
2010/10/15 mdipierro
> I agree. The one Martin made is good but ...
>
> 1) should made to run on GAE
> 2) should use RPX for login
> 3) should provide multiple lists of logos for multiple companies
> 4) should sort logos and vote with rating [*] (plugin rating?)
> 5) allow visitor to comment on logos
> {{=plugin_wiki.widget('comment','logo',id)}}
>
Re: [web2py] Re: Vote for a new logo
On Oct 14, 2010, at 7:26 PM, Adrian Klaver wrote: > > For goodness sake, give it a rest. The bandwith devoted to this issue is way > out > of proportion to its importance. This calls for a Benevolent Dictator. Let > Massimo choose a logo and then lets move on. Geekus in uno, geekus in omnibus. We can't help ourselves.
Re: [web2py] Re: Vote for a new logo
On Thursday 14 October 2010 7:14:26 pm weheh wrote: > Good ideas, Anthony. I would add that there should probably be 2 > phases of voting. In both phases, everyone gets 1 vote. > > In phase 1, votes for logos that are of the same/cloned base layout > are aggregated. So, for example, say there's a text logo that says > "web2py" and is represented in 3 clones: one in red, one green, and > one blue. Each of these clones gets 1 vote. Then, we can normalize by > giving the cloned set 3 votes. > > The top 5 cloned sets that get the most votes in aggregate then move > to the finals. Comments during the phase 1 vote can be used by > designers to tweak their logo. In finals, there should be no clones. > In the finals, each designer gets to present 1 logo. The logo that > then gets the most votes, wins. > > This seems a little complicated (maybe too complicated), but also > seems fair. Not that fair necessarily applies. Massimo should have > final say, IMHO. Also, if there are any requirements from Massimo or > other powers that be regarding the logo, let them be stated clearly on > the voting page. > For goodness sake, give it a rest. The bandwith devoted to this issue is way out of proportion to its importance. This calls for a Benevolent Dictator. Let Massimo choose a logo and then lets move on. -- Adrian Klaver adrian.kla...@gmail.com
Re: [web2py] Re: Vote for a new logo
On Oct 14, 2010, at 7:14 PM, weheh wrote: > > Good ideas, Anthony. I would add that there should probably be 2 > phases of voting. In both phases, everyone gets 1 vote. > > In phase 1, votes for logos that are of the same/cloned base layout > are aggregated. So, for example, say there's a text logo that says > "web2py" and is represented in 3 clones: one in red, one green, and > one blue. Each of these clones gets 1 vote. Then, we can normalize by > giving the cloned set 3 votes. > > The top 5 cloned sets that get the most votes in aggregate then move > to the finals. Comments during the phase 1 vote can be used by > designers to tweak their logo. In finals, there should be no clones. > In the finals, each designer gets to present 1 logo. The logo that > then gets the most votes, wins. > > This seems a little complicated (maybe too complicated), but also > seems fair. Not that fair necessarily applies. Massimo should have > final say, IMHO. Also, if there are any requirements from Massimo or > other powers that be regarding the logo, let them be stated clearly on > the voting page. There are voting methods that accomplish this automatically, with voters defining "clones" themselves. Still, I agree with Richard that the voting here should be regarded as input to Massimo, not a final decision.
Re: [web2py] Re: Vote for a new logo
Yes, we got the snake! http://blouweb.com/logovote/default/index?logoid=37
Re: [web2py] Re: Vote for a new logo
On Oct 14, 2010, at 6:17 PM, mdipierro wrote: > > I would have sworn this was in the book. Shame on me. This is a two > years old feature (but not supported on GAE). It could be simulated on GAE with random.shuffle(rows), I think. Set.select already has some database-specific logic. > > Massimo > > On Oct 14, 8:09 pm, Thadeus Burgess wrote: >>> select(orderby='') >> >> How long have you been keeping this a secret from us!? >> >> -- >> Thadeus >> >> On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 5:05 PM, mdipierro wrote: >>> select(orderby='') >
Re: [web2py] Re: Vote for a new logo
> select(orderby='') How long have you been keeping this a secret from us!? -- Thadeus On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 5:05 PM, mdipierro wrote: > select(orderby='')
Re: [web2py] Re: Vote for a new logo
The source is in https://bitbucket.org/rochacbruno/logovote/src* , *if anyone has ideas, just fork, push and send me pull request. I just integrate the BitBucket repository, directly with the webapp on server, so easy in webfaction BTW: webfaction is very nice! * * 2010/10/14 Jonathan Lundell > On Oct 14, 2010, at 5:05 PM, Martin.Mulone wrote: > > > > how about having 5 votes?. and you can add or delete your vote, but > > only you have in total 5 votes. 5 votes or 3,6,9,etc. > > Cumulative voting (this) or approval voting (vote for as many as you like, > but only one vote for each candidate) are conceptually simple, but they > introduce a rather nasty strategy issue: voting for anything but your single > favorite can hurt your favorite's chances. > > That said, approval voting is not a bad idea for an informal poll like > this, and it'd be easy to implement: simply remove the restriction that a > voter can only vote for one candidate, and add the ability to "unvote" for a > candidate. > > A ranked method, either a Condorcet method like Schulze, or single-winner > STV (usually called IRV or AV) are better choices (though there's a kind of > religious war between the Condorcet and STV camps, or at least a subset of > them). > > OpenSTV, a Python-based vote counter that I sometimes contribute to, > supports both. -- http://rochacbruno.com.br
Re: [web2py] Re: Vote for a new logo
On Oct 14, 2010, at 5:05 PM, Martin.Mulone wrote: > > how about having 5 votes?. and you can add or delete your vote, but > only you have in total 5 votes. 5 votes or 3,6,9,etc. Cumulative voting (this) or approval voting (vote for as many as you like, but only one vote for each candidate) are conceptually simple, but they introduce a rather nasty strategy issue: voting for anything but your single favorite can hurt your favorite's chances. That said, approval voting is not a bad idea for an informal poll like this, and it'd be easy to implement: simply remove the restriction that a voter can only vote for one candidate, and add the ability to "unvote" for a candidate. A ranked method, either a Condorcet method like Schulze, or single-winner STV (usually called IRV or AV) are better choices (though there's a kind of religious war between the Condorcet and STV camps, or at least a subset of them). OpenSTV, a Python-based vote counter that I sometimes contribute to, supports both.
Re: [web2py] Re: Vote for a new logo
Updated: http://www.blouweb.com/logovote Martin did lot of changes! Comments are in todo list Remember: users can change the choice any time they want. 2010/10/14 Martin.Mulone > Ok i made some changes: > > * Now the voter are hide only admin can view the votes. > * Now you can delete your logo. An the admin can delete all the logos. > * Now is listing randomly > * TODO: comments. > > Bruno has to test it and deploy. > > On Oct 14, 7:05 pm, mdipierro wrote: > > select(orderby='') > > > > On Oct 14, 4:06 pm, Bruno Rocha wrote: > > > > > > > > > Martin is working to change that to random > > > > > 2010/10/14 Thadeus Burgess > > > > > > Not to mention its not fair to new logos that get posted that they > are at > > > > the bottom. > > > > > > -- > > > > Thadeus > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Bruno Rocha >wrote: > > > > > >> The font used in LOGO #31 is really cool, that would be good with a > > > >> bigger 2 insted a heart. > > > > > >> @DenesL what font is that? > > > > > >> 2010/10/14 Bruno Rocha > > > > > >> AFter registering you have to click on "VOTE THIS" > > > > > >>> there are some people registering and forgot to vote. > > > > > >>> 2010/10/14 Mengu > > > > > >>> i think #7 is more serious and good. i'll vote for it. > > > > > On 14 Ekim, 00:17, Bruno Rocha wrote: > > > > Martin Mulone made the logovote application. > > > > > > I am hosting at my server > > > > > > You can post logo ideas, and vote for you prefered logo. > > > > > > Better if you made an transparent canvas .gif or .png maximum > 250x70 > > > > > > Maximum of 10 uploads per user, Just one vote per user. > > > > > > Take a look:http://blouweb.com/logovote/ > > > > > >>> -- > > > > > >>>http://rochacbruno.com.br > > > > > >> -- > > > > > >>http://rochacbruno.com.br > > > > > -- > > > > >http://rochacbruno.com.br > -- http://rochacbruno.com.br
Re: [web2py] Re: Vote for a new logo
Logos have permalink now -> http://www.blouweb.com/logovote/default/index?logoid=5 2010/10/14 Bruno Rocha > Updated: http://www.blouweb.com/logovote > > Martin did lot of changes! > > Comments are in todo list > > Remember: users can change the choice any time they want. > > 2010/10/14 Martin.Mulone > > Ok i made some changes: >> >> * Now the voter are hide only admin can view the votes. >> * Now you can delete your logo. An the admin can delete all the logos. >> * Now is listing randomly >> * TODO: comments. >> >> Bruno has to test it and deploy. >> >> On Oct 14, 7:05 pm, mdipierro wrote: >> > select(orderby='') >> > >> > On Oct 14, 4:06 pm, Bruno Rocha wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> > > Martin is working to change that to random >> > >> > > 2010/10/14 Thadeus Burgess >> > >> > > > Not to mention its not fair to new logos that get posted that they >> are at >> > > > the bottom. >> > >> > > > -- >> > > > Thadeus >> > >> > > > On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Bruno Rocha > >wrote: >> > >> > > >> The font used in LOGO #31 is really cool, that would be good with a >> > > >> bigger 2 insted a heart. >> > >> > > >> @DenesL what font is that? >> > >> > > >> 2010/10/14 Bruno Rocha >> > >> > > >> AFter registering you have to click on "VOTE THIS" >> > >> > > >>> there are some people registering and forgot to vote. >> > >> > > >>> 2010/10/14 Mengu >> > >> > > >>> i think #7 is more serious and good. i'll vote for it. >> > >> > > On 14 Ekim, 00:17, Bruno Rocha wrote: >> > > > Martin Mulone made the logovote application. >> > >> > > > I am hosting at my server >> > >> > > > You can post logo ideas, and vote for you prefered logo. >> > >> > > > Better if you made an transparent canvas .gif or .png maximum >> 250x70 >> > >> > > > Maximum of 10 uploads per user, Just one vote per user. >> > >> > > > Take a look:http://blouweb.com/logovote/ >> > >> > > >>> -- >> > >> > > >>>http://rochacbruno.com.br >> > >> > > >> -- >> > >> > > >>http://rochacbruno.com.br >> > >> > > -- >> > >> > >http://rochacbruno.com.br >> > > > > -- > > http://rochacbruno.com.br > -- http://rochacbruno.com.br
Re: [web2py] Re: Vote for a new logo
Martin is working to change that to random 2010/10/14 Thadeus Burgess > Not to mention its not fair to new logos that get posted that they are at > the bottom. > > -- > Thadeus > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Bruno Rocha wrote: > >> The font used in LOGO #31 is really cool, that would be good with a >> bigger 2 insted a heart. >> >> @DenesL what font is that? >> >> 2010/10/14 Bruno Rocha >> >> AFter registering you have to click on "VOTE THIS" >>> >>> there are some people registering and forgot to vote. >>> >>> 2010/10/14 Mengu >>> >>> i think #7 is more serious and good. i'll vote for it. On 14 Ekim, 00:17, Bruno Rocha wrote: > Martin Mulone made the logovote application. > > I am hosting at my server > > You can post logo ideas, and vote for you prefered logo. > > Better if you made an transparent canvas .gif or .png maximum 250x70 > > Maximum of 10 uploads per user, Just one vote per user. > > Take a look:http://blouweb.com/logovote/ >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> http://rochacbruno.com.br >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> http://rochacbruno.com.br >> > > -- http://rochacbruno.com.br
Re: [web2py] Re: Vote for a new logo
Not to mention its not fair to new logos that get posted that they are at the bottom. -- Thadeus On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Bruno Rocha wrote: > The font used in LOGO #31 is really cool, that would be good with a bigger > 2 insted a heart. > > @DenesL what font is that? > > 2010/10/14 Bruno Rocha > > AFter registering you have to click on "VOTE THIS" >> >> there are some people registering and forgot to vote. >> >> 2010/10/14 Mengu >> >> i think #7 is more serious and good. i'll vote for it. >>> >>> On 14 Ekim, 00:17, Bruno Rocha wrote: >>> > Martin Mulone made the logovote application. >>> > >>> > I am hosting at my server >>> > >>> > You can post logo ideas, and vote for you prefered logo. >>> > >>> > Better if you made an transparent canvas .gif or .png maximum 250x70 >>> > >>> > Maximum of 10 uploads per user, Just one vote per user. >>> > >>> > Take a look:http://blouweb.com/logovote/ >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> http://rochacbruno.com.br >> > > > > -- > > http://rochacbruno.com.br >
Re: [web2py] Re: Vote for a new logo
The font used in LOGO #31 is really cool, that would be good with a bigger 2 insted a heart. @DenesL what font is that? 2010/10/14 Bruno Rocha > AFter registering you have to click on "VOTE THIS" > > there are some people registering and forgot to vote. > > 2010/10/14 Mengu > > i think #7 is more serious and good. i'll vote for it. >> >> On 14 Ekim, 00:17, Bruno Rocha wrote: >> > Martin Mulone made the logovote application. >> > >> > I am hosting at my server >> > >> > You can post logo ideas, and vote for you prefered logo. >> > >> > Better if you made an transparent canvas .gif or .png maximum 250x70 >> > >> > Maximum of 10 uploads per user, Just one vote per user. >> > >> > Take a look:http://blouweb.com/logovote/ >> > > > > -- > > http://rochacbruno.com.br > -- http://rochacbruno.com.br
Re: [web2py] Re: Vote for a new logo
AFter registering you have to click on "VOTE THIS" there are some people registering and forgot to vote. 2010/10/14 Mengu > i think #7 is more serious and good. i'll vote for it. > > On 14 Ekim, 00:17, Bruno Rocha wrote: > > Martin Mulone made the logovote application. > > > > I am hosting at my server > > > > You can post logo ideas, and vote for you prefered logo. > > > > Better if you made an transparent canvas .gif or .png maximum 250x70 > > > > Maximum of 10 uploads per user, Just one vote per user. > > > > Take a look:http://blouweb.com/logovote/ > -- http://rochacbruno.com.br
Re: [web2py] Re: Vote for a new logo
OK, I have not much time today. Somebody can help working in that app? 2010/10/14 Thadeus Burgess > Not if you want the votes to be scientifically valid. Otherwise there are > biases in the results. > > I have experience working with surveys and research questions. I feel that > any kind of poll falls into that category. For a true and accurate > representation of a logos popularity you MUST randomize and you cannot give > any hint as to how many votes it has received. > > -- > Thadeus > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 10:43 AM, weheh wrote: > >> Thadeus - I disagree with the randomization. Submissions should be >> sortable by vote count, date submitted, or submitter. Voter anonymity >> is probably a good idea. >> > > -- http://rochacbruno.com.br
Re: [web2py] Re: Vote for a new logo
Not if you want the votes to be scientifically valid. Otherwise there are biases in the results. I have experience working with surveys and research questions. I feel that any kind of poll falls into that category. For a true and accurate representation of a logos popularity you MUST randomize and you cannot give any hint as to how many votes it has received. -- Thadeus On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 10:43 AM, weheh wrote: > Thadeus - I disagree with the randomization. Submissions should be > sortable by vote count, date submitted, or submitter. Voter anonymity > is probably a good idea. >
Re: [web2py] Re: Vote for a new logo
Me too On Thu, 2010-10-14 at 17:40 +0200, Michele Comitini wrote: > I agree with Thadeus > > 2010/10/14 Thadeus Burgess : > > You really should remove the names of who voted for what. It creates a bias > > towards certain logos for new people to vote. > > > > The logos should also be randomized every time the page is refreshed to > > reduce the bias as well. > > > > -- > > Thadeus > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 7:37 AM, Carl wrote: > >> > >> great idea for an app. > >> as well as voting perhaps adding a comment field could be offered as > >> an option? > >> Such comments could help logo designers iterate designs. > >> > >> > >> On Oct 14, 11:07 am, rochacbruno wrote: > >> > The app needs some improvements that will be done today. > >> > > >> > 1 order logos by number of votes > >> > 2 allow users to delete > >> > > >> > I am working on this > >> > > >> > Enviado via iPhone > >> > > >> > Em 14/10/2010, às 06:58, Michele Comitini > >> > escreveu: > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > How logos are presented? The order can interfere with the vote... > >> > > >> > > 2010/10/14 weheh : > >> > >> If anyone can delete 22, 23, and 24, please, you have my permission > >> > >> to > >> > >> do so. > > > >
Re: [web2py] Re: Vote for a new logo
One more time we could use reddish http://web2py.appspot.com/ with some modifications. 2010/10/14 Jonathan Lundell > On Oct 14, 2010, at 8:52 AM, Bruno Rocha wrote: > > I am working to have ordering options [ number of votes - date submitted ] > I will hide the name of the voters, and show only the vote counter > Include a box for comment on every logo > and possibility to the user for edit or delete uploades logos. > > > Voting is an interesting problem. Since this is something of an informal > beauty contest, it can be fairly casual, but done right, it could be a > useful plugin. > > One refinement that would be useful in such a plugin is to allow voters to > rank their choices, or otherwise express something more than a single vote > for a single candidate. > > At the moment, #8 and #17 have one vote each. But it's reasonable to assume > that those voters would also like #5, on which 8 & 17 are based. I'm partial > to my own design, but I have definite preferences among the others. Some of > the logos are slight variations on a theme, and a voter might like to > express a preference for the theme rather than any specific logo. Etc. > > A minor point: when the voters become anonymous, there should be some > indication to a logged-in user whether they've voted, and if so for what. > > > As I have few free time during my work day, If anyone could help with that, > I am putting the source on BitBucket. > > > 2010/10/14 weheh > >> Thadeus - I disagree with the randomization. Submissions should be >> sortable by vote count, date submitted, or submitter. Voter anonymity >> is probably a good idea. > > > > > -- > > http://rochacbruno.com.br > > > > -- http://rochacbruno.com.br
Re: [web2py] Re: Vote for a new logo
On Oct 14, 2010, at 8:52 AM, Bruno Rocha wrote: > I am working to have ordering options [ number of votes - date submitted ] > I will hide the name of the voters, and show only the vote counter > Include a box for comment on every logo > and possibility to the user for edit or delete uploades logos. Voting is an interesting problem. Since this is something of an informal beauty contest, it can be fairly casual, but done right, it could be a useful plugin. One refinement that would be useful in such a plugin is to allow voters to rank their choices, or otherwise express something more than a single vote for a single candidate. At the moment, #8 and #17 have one vote each. But it's reasonable to assume that those voters would also like #5, on which 8 & 17 are based. I'm partial to my own design, but I have definite preferences among the others. Some of the logos are slight variations on a theme, and a voter might like to express a preference for the theme rather than any specific logo. Etc. A minor point: when the voters become anonymous, there should be some indication to a logged-in user whether they've voted, and if so for what. > > As I have few free time during my work day, If anyone could help with that, I > am putting the source on BitBucket. > > > 2010/10/14 weheh > Thadeus - I disagree with the randomization. Submissions should be > sortable by vote count, date submitted, or submitter. Voter anonymity > is probably a good idea. > > > > -- > > http://rochacbruno.com.br
Re: [web2py] Re: Vote for a new logo
I am working to have ordering options [ number of votes - date submitted ] I will hide the name of the voters, and show only the vote counter Include a box for comment on every logo and possibility to the user for edit or delete uploades logos. As I have few free time during my work day, If anyone could help with that, I am putting the source on BitBucket. 2010/10/14 weheh > Thadeus - I disagree with the randomization. Submissions should be > sortable by vote count, date submitted, or submitter. Voter anonymity > is probably a good idea. -- http://rochacbruno.com.br
Re: [web2py] Re: Vote for a new logo
I agree with Thadeus 2010/10/14 Thadeus Burgess : > You really should remove the names of who voted for what. It creates a bias > towards certain logos for new people to vote. > > The logos should also be randomized every time the page is refreshed to > reduce the bias as well. > > -- > Thadeus > > > > > On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 7:37 AM, Carl wrote: >> >> great idea for an app. >> as well as voting perhaps adding a comment field could be offered as >> an option? >> Such comments could help logo designers iterate designs. >> >> >> On Oct 14, 11:07 am, rochacbruno wrote: >> > The app needs some improvements that will be done today. >> > >> > 1 order logos by number of votes >> > 2 allow users to delete >> > >> > I am working on this >> > >> > Enviado via iPhone >> > >> > Em 14/10/2010, às 06:58, Michele Comitini >> > escreveu: >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > How logos are presented? The order can interfere with the vote... >> > >> > > 2010/10/14 weheh : >> > >> If anyone can delete 22, 23, and 24, please, you have my permission >> > >> to >> > >> do so. > >
Re: [web2py] Re: Vote for a new logo
You really should remove the names of who voted for what. It creates a bias towards certain logos for new people to vote. The logos should also be randomized every time the page is refreshed to reduce the bias as well. -- Thadeus On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 7:37 AM, Carl wrote: > great idea for an app. > as well as voting perhaps adding a comment field could be offered as > an option? > Such comments could help logo designers iterate designs. > > > On Oct 14, 11:07 am, rochacbruno wrote: > > The app needs some improvements that will be done today. > > > > 1 order logos by number of votes > > 2 allow users to delete > > > > I am working on this > > > > Enviado via iPhone > > > > Em 14/10/2010, às 06:58, Michele Comitini > escreveu: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How logos are presented? The order can interfere with the vote... > > > > > 2010/10/14 weheh : > > >> If anyone can delete 22, 23, and 24, please, you have my permission to > > >> do so. >
Re: [web2py] Re: Vote for a new logo
The app needs some improvements that will be done today. 1 order logos by number of votes 2 allow users to delete I am working on this Enviado via iPhone Em 14/10/2010, às 06:58, Michele Comitini escreveu: > How logos are presented? The order can interfere with the vote... > > > 2010/10/14 weheh : >> If anyone can delete 22, 23, and 24, please, you have my permission to >> do so.
Re: [web2py] Re: Vote for a new logo
How logos are presented? The order can interfere with the vote... 2010/10/14 weheh : > If anyone can delete 22, 23, and 24, please, you have my permission to > do so.
Re: [web2py] Re: Vote for a new logo
Yes you can, sorry, just looked at the site again and noticed it. -- Thadeus On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 7:23 PM, Thadeus Burgess wrote: > Can you change your vote? > > -- > Thadeus > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Bruno Rocha wrote: > >> Just have to change the query, ordering by the most voted first. >> >> 2010/10/13 mdipierro >> >> really nice app by the way. thanks Martin >>> >>> On Oct 13, 4:17 pm, Bruno Rocha wrote: >>> > Martin Mulone made the logovote application. >>> > >>> > I am hosting at my server >>> > >>> > You can post logo ideas, and vote for you prefered logo. >>> > >>> > Better if you made an transparent canvas .gif or .png maximum 250x70 >>> > >>> > Maximum of 10 uploads per user, Just one vote per user. >>> > >>> > Take a look:http://blouweb.com/logovote/ >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> http://rochacbruno.com.br >> > >
Re: [web2py] Re: Vote for a new logo
Can you change your vote? -- Thadeus On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Bruno Rocha wrote: > Just have to change the query, ordering by the most voted first. > > 2010/10/13 mdipierro > > really nice app by the way. thanks Martin >> >> On Oct 13, 4:17 pm, Bruno Rocha wrote: >> > Martin Mulone made the logovote application. >> > >> > I am hosting at my server >> > >> > You can post logo ideas, and vote for you prefered logo. >> > >> > Better if you made an transparent canvas .gif or .png maximum 250x70 >> > >> > Maximum of 10 uploads per user, Just one vote per user. >> > >> > Take a look:http://blouweb.com/logovote/ >> > > > > -- > > http://rochacbruno.com.br >
Re: [web2py] Re: Vote for a new logo
Just have to change the query, ordering by the most voted first. 2010/10/13 mdipierro > really nice app by the way. thanks Martin > > On Oct 13, 4:17 pm, Bruno Rocha wrote: > > Martin Mulone made the logovote application. > > > > I am hosting at my server > > > > You can post logo ideas, and vote for you prefered logo. > > > > Better if you made an transparent canvas .gif or .png maximum 250x70 > > > > Maximum of 10 uploads per user, Just one vote per user. > > > > Take a look:http://blouweb.com/logovote/ > -- http://rochacbruno.com.br
Re: [web2py] Re: Vote for a new logo
Could someone please make a number 9 with a font that does not squish the letters together? -- Thadeus On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 4:37 PM, Thadeus Burgess wrote: > That is awesome Buno! Kudos! > > -- > Thadeus > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Bruno Rocha wrote: > >> No need for posting background, just logo. >> >> Background will be added automatically. >> >> 2010/10/13 Bruno Rocha >> >> Martin Mulone made the logovote application. >>> >>> I am hosting at my server >>> >>> You can post logo ideas, and vote for you prefered logo. >>> >>> Better if you made an transparent canvas .gif or .png maximum 250x70 >>> >>> Maximum of 10 uploads per user, Just one vote per user. >>> >>> Take a look: http://blouweb.com/logovote/ >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> http://rochacbruno.com.br >> > >
Re: [web2py] Re: Vote for a new logo
Martin Mulone is the creator of the app! After uploading your ideas, dont forget to vote! or just vote for which one you think is better. 2010/10/13 Thadeus Burgess > That is awesome Buno! Kudos! > > -- > Thadeus > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Bruno Rocha wrote: > >> No need for posting background, just logo. >> >> Background will be added automatically. >> >> 2010/10/13 Bruno Rocha >> >> Martin Mulone made the logovote application. >>> >>> I am hosting at my server >>> >>> You can post logo ideas, and vote for you prefered logo. >>> >>> Better if you made an transparent canvas .gif or .png maximum 250x70 >>> >>> Maximum of 10 uploads per user, Just one vote per user. >>> >>> Take a look: http://blouweb.com/logovote/ >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> http://rochacbruno.com.br >> > > -- http://rochacbruno.com.br
Re: [web2py] Re: Vote for a new logo
That is awesome Buno! Kudos! -- Thadeus On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Bruno Rocha wrote: > No need for posting background, just logo. > > Background will be added automatically. > > 2010/10/13 Bruno Rocha > > Martin Mulone made the logovote application. >> >> I am hosting at my server >> >> You can post logo ideas, and vote for you prefered logo. >> >> Better if you made an transparent canvas .gif or .png maximum 250x70 >> >> Maximum of 10 uploads per user, Just one vote per user. >> >> Take a look: http://blouweb.com/logovote/ >> > > > > -- > > http://rochacbruno.com.br >
